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    titomagic33
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 12:17 AM ET #26

    1 is steve smith healthy 2 last week it was de. hall that was hurt this is the last time i am F@#King wityh Carolina Such a really good team on paper going hard on da panthers and the over .Carolina needs to give there fans some hope before they melt down again!!! Holla at me let me know what you think P.S. Miami-Oh and Ball State both suck AI just needed to bet them to confirm it LOL
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    1 is steve smith healthy 2 last week it was de. hall that was hurt this is the last time i am F@#King wityh Carolina Such a really good team on paper going hard on da panthers and the over .Carolina needs to give there fans some hope before they melt down again!!! Holla at me let me know what you think P.S. Miami-Oh and Ball State both suck AI just needed to bet them to confirm it LOL
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 12:35 AM ET #27

    I like Carolina here.
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    I like Carolina here.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 1:35 AM ET #28

    Pulled my hair out trying to fiqure this one out. But i finally fiqured it out. Too much to post but just have to say check the box score for the Dolphins last 4 games. Notice the points put up with the smaller amount of first downs and time of posession. And notice the tough games played on the road I think they might be fine with ronnie out may get pat some more touches in space and maybe even some wildcat passes. Hopefully they had plenty of time during the short week to implement some new offense. Finally the line is suspect at -3 with best player out on the road. Med big play here for me on Miami
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    Pulled my hair out trying to fiqure this one out. But i finally fiqured it out. Too much to post but just have to say check the box score for the Dolphins last 4 games. Notice the points put up with the smaller amount of first downs and time of posession. And notice the tough games played on the road I think they might be fine with ronnie out may get pat some more touches in space and maybe even some wildcat passes. Hopefully they had plenty of time during the short week to implement some new offense. Finally the line is suspect at -3 with best player out on the road. Med big play here for me on Miami
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 2:38 AM ET #29

    My gut feeling is to take the Carolina Panthers at -3.  The offense is starting to click and now that Muhsin Muhammad is back, Steve Smith is going to see less double coverage.  But that Dolphins team can score quickly, which they proved on Sunday.  Teasing this game.

    Carolina +3 and over 36.5
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    My gut feeling is to take the Carolina Panthers at -3.  The offense is starting to click and now that Muhsin Muhammad is back, Steve Smith is going to see less double coverage.  But that Dolphins team can score quickly, which they proved on Sunday.  Teasing this game.

    Carolina +3 and over 36.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 2:58 AM ET #30

    under for my condo...... easiest pick of the year
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    under for my condo...... easiest pick of the year
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 3:46 AM ET #31

    Panthers -3 looks to be the play here, to bad for me I promissed to never again lose $ on jake delhomme. 

    I'm excited to see if Pat White gets more snaps, he was great to watch at WVU.

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    Panthers -3 looks to be the play here, to bad for me I promissed to never again lose $ on jake delhomme. 

    I'm excited to see if Pat White gets more snaps, he was great to watch at WVU.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 4:22 AM ET #32

    over/under 1.5 turnovers for delhomme anyone?
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    over/under 1.5 turnovers for delhomme anyone?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 4:23 AM ET #33

    MIA +3

    panthers can't stop the run and ronnie isn't the only runner.  This will force sporano to do what he does best and get creative with the gameplanning.
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    MIA +3

    panthers can't stop the run and ronnie isn't the only runner.  This will force sporano to do what he does best and get creative with the gameplanning.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 5:28 AM ET #34

    How can anyone cap this game with confidence?...Might as well put it all on Red...

    Will be watching as the Dolphins are my team.  Maybe a HT wager.




    "Peak success is when you become uninterested in money, compliments or publicity"- Wolfe
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    How can anyone cap this game with confidence?...Might as well put it all on Red...

    Will be watching as the Dolphins are my team.  Maybe a HT wager.




     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 6:27 AM ET #35

    Oh Carolina..........and OVER!

    I'm seeing a 34-17 result but WTF do I know bout NFL. Can't pick a winner since QBs on teams I ride either get picked (Cutler) or get injured (Orton) or take a 4-2 gamble (Brady).

    Roughest weekend EVER
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    Oh Carolina..........and OVER!

    I'm seeing a 34-17 result but WTF do I know bout NFL. Can't pick a winner since QBs on teams I ride either get picked (Cutler) or get injured (Orton) or take a 4-2 gamble (Brady).

    Roughest weekend EVER
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 8:07 AM ET #36

    Carolina -3 and the under for me

     

    GL TO ALL

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    Carolina -3 and the under for me

     

    GL TO ALL

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 9:50 AM ET #37

    Teasin' Carolina and the Over
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    Teasin' Carolina and the Over
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 10:36 AM ET #38

    Ronnie Brown status?



    surprised a lotta CAR love ....
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    Ronnie Brown status?



    surprised a lotta CAR love ....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 10:42 AM ET #39

    LAST FIVE WEEKS

    MIA avg 27.4 ppg
    CAR avg 23.9 ppg

    MIA avg 27.8 PA pg
    CAR avg 22.2 PA pg

    Add then avg the PA PFya get 50.6 Well above or posted total
    27.4 + 23.9 = 51.2 PF combined both teams
    27.8 + 22.2 = 50 PA avg combined both teams
    Average of 51.2 and 50 = 50.6


    leaning over...
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    LAST FIVE WEEKS

    MIA avg 27.4 ppg
    CAR avg 23.9 ppg

    MIA avg 27.8 PA pg
    CAR avg 22.2 PA pg

    Add then avg the PA PFya get 50.6 Well above or posted total
    27.4 + 23.9 = 51.2 PF combined both teams
    27.8 + 22.2 = 50 PA avg combined both teams
    Average of 51.2 and 50 = 50.6


    leaning over...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 10:43 AM ET #40

    Just after watching film of both teams last week, I'm leaning on Carolina -3.  They were able to run and pass the ball efficiently and Miami's pass D is worse than the Falcons.... Delhomme's decision making is the biggest question of the game because Miami has to blitz him into making bad decisions and lately Jake has been solid at finding the short passes to his rbs and wrs.

    Miami's wildcat isn't the same threat without Ronnie Brown, even though Ricky Williams has proven reliable this season.  Miami will rely too much on their D for them to win this matchup.

    Panthers -3 and under 42.5.

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    Just after watching film of both teams last week, I'm leaning on Carolina -3.  They were able to run and pass the ball efficiently and Miami's pass D is worse than the Falcons.... Delhomme's decision making is the biggest question of the game because Miami has to blitz him into making bad decisions and lately Jake has been solid at finding the short passes to his rbs and wrs.

    Miami's wildcat isn't the same threat without Ronnie Brown, even though Ricky Williams has proven reliable this season.  Miami will rely too much on their D for them to win this matchup.

    Panthers -3 and under 42.5.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 10:46 AM ET #41

    FOR THE SEASON

    MIA avg 24.2 ppg
    CAR avg 19.5 ppg

    MIA avg 24.2 PA pg
    CAR avg 23.9 PA pg

    run these numbers through same system and.... 45.9

    not liking over so much based on full year trend...

    - MIA been hot obviously last five weeks as running game was explosive, but now without Ronnie?
    - MIA's D has actually gotten worse since the start of the year
    - CAR's offense has gotten slightly better since the start of the year
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    FOR THE SEASON

    MIA avg 24.2 ppg
    CAR avg 19.5 ppg

    MIA avg 24.2 PA pg
    CAR avg 23.9 PA pg

    run these numbers through same system and.... 45.9

    not liking over so much based on full year trend...

    - MIA been hot obviously last five weeks as running game was explosive, but now without Ronnie?
    - MIA's D has actually gotten worse since the start of the year
    - CAR's offense has gotten slightly better since the start of the year
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 10:48 AM ET #42

    i think alot of these averages for MIA can be thrown out the window, with the loss of Ronnie Brown for tonite's game...


    NO PLAY on side or total...



    diggin for a prop perhaps...
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    i think alot of these averages for MIA can be thrown out the window, with the loss of Ronnie Brown for tonite's game...


    NO PLAY on side or total...



    diggin for a prop perhaps...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 11:03 AM ET #43

    MIAMI ALL DAY LONG 
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    MIAMI ALL DAY LONG 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 11:08 AM ET #44

    Chad Henne OVER 17 completions


    he'll have to throw more with Ronnie's absence...


    gl every1, im off to play craps and poker at mohegan sun!





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    Chad Henne OVER 17 completions


    he'll have to throw more with Ronnie's absence...


    gl every1, im off to play craps and poker at mohegan sun!





     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 11:22 AM ET #45

    MIAMI DOLPHINS OFFENSE & O-LINE:
     
    B+Chad Henne   B-Ronnie Brown   C+Ricky Williams   C-Lousaka Polite   C+Davone Bess   C-Ted Ginn Jr.   B+Brian Hartline   B-Joey Haynos
     
    RT AVernon Carey; RG B-Donald Thomas; C B-Jake Grove; LG A+Andrew Gardner; LT C-Jake Long
     
    MIAMI DOLPHINS DEFENSE:
     
    DE C+Kendall Langford; NT A+Jason Ferguson; DE B-Randy Starks; LB B+Jason Taylor; LB B+Channing Crowder; LB B+Akin Ayodele; LB C-Joey Porter; CB B+Vontae Davis; CB CSean Smith; SS C-Yeremiah Bell; FS CChris Clemons
     
    CAROLINA PANTHERS OFFENSE & O-LINE:
     
    C-Jake Delhomme   CDeAngelo Williams (QUES)   A+Tony Fiammetta   C-Steve Smith   B-/C-Muhsin Muhammad   B-/C-Dwayne Jarrett   C-Jeff King   B+Dante Rosario
     
    RT B+Jeff Otah; RG C-Keydrick Vincent; C B-/C-Ryan Kalil; LG C-Travelle Wharton; LT A+Mackenzy Bernadeau
     
    CAROLINA PANTHERS DEFENSE:
     
    DE A+Tyler Brayton; DT C+Hollis Thomas; DT A+Tank Tyler; DE B-Julius Peppers; LB A+Na'il Diggs; LB B-Jon Beason; LB B-Landon Johnson; CB B-Chris Gamble; CB B+Richard Marshall; SS B+Chris Harris; FS AQuinton Teal
     
    Pick: Over 42.5
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    MIAMI DOLPHINS OFFENSE & O-LINE:
     
    B+Chad Henne   B-Ronnie Brown   C+Ricky Williams   C-Lousaka Polite   C+Davone Bess   C-Ted Ginn Jr.   B+Brian Hartline   B-Joey Haynos
     
    RT AVernon Carey; RG B-Donald Thomas; C B-Jake Grove; LG A+Andrew Gardner; LT C-Jake Long
     
    MIAMI DOLPHINS DEFENSE:
     
    DE C+Kendall Langford; NT A+Jason Ferguson; DE B-Randy Starks; LB B+Jason Taylor; LB B+Channing Crowder; LB B+Akin Ayodele; LB C-Joey Porter; CB B+Vontae Davis; CB CSean Smith; SS C-Yeremiah Bell; FS CChris Clemons
     
    CAROLINA PANTHERS OFFENSE & O-LINE:
     
    C-Jake Delhomme   CDeAngelo Williams (QUES)   A+Tony Fiammetta   C-Steve Smith   B-/C-Muhsin Muhammad   B-/C-Dwayne Jarrett   C-Jeff King   B+Dante Rosario
     
    RT B+Jeff Otah; RG C-Keydrick Vincent; C B-/C-Ryan Kalil; LG C-Travelle Wharton; LT A+Mackenzy Bernadeau
     
    CAROLINA PANTHERS DEFENSE:
     
    DE A+Tyler Brayton; DT C+Hollis Thomas; DT A+Tank Tyler; DE B-Julius Peppers; LB A+Na'il Diggs; LB B-Jon Beason; LB B-Landon Johnson; CB B-Chris Gamble; CB B+Richard Marshall; SS B+Chris Harris; FS AQuinton Teal
     
    Pick: Over 42.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 12:57 PM ET #46

    miami   +3   
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    miami   +3   
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 1:04 PM ET #47

    Carolina.

    GL
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    Carolina.

    GL
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 1:49 PM ET #48

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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 2:04 PM ET #49

    I'm staying away from this game.... why do I have to bet it, cause it's the only game on Thursday?...

    this is a coin flip.... if delhomme plays like he's been playing then they will win, maybe cover...

    he is due for a bad game and covering 3 against a good football team is not easy.... Ricky Williams will carry the load just fine in the wildcat.... Carolina isn't good against the run anyway...

    Carolina barely escaped last week....

    good luck to all!

     

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    I'm staying away from this game.... why do I have to bet it, cause it's the only game on Thursday?...

    this is a coin flip.... if delhomme plays like he's been playing then they will win, maybe cover...

    he is due for a bad game and covering 3 against a good football team is not easy.... Ricky Williams will carry the load just fine in the wildcat.... Carolina isn't good against the run anyway...

    Carolina barely escaped last week....

    good luck to all!

     

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 2:13 PM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by HappyKane:

    MIAMI DOLPHINS OFFENSE & O-LINE:
     
    B+Chad Henne   B-Ronnie Brown   C+Ricky Williams   C-Lousaka Polite   C+Davone Bess   C-Ted Ginn Jr.   B+Brian Hartline   B-Joey Haynos
     
    RT AVernon Carey; RG B-Donald Thomas; C B-Jake Grove; LG A+Andrew Gardner; LT C-Jake Long
     
    MIAMI DOLPHINS DEFENSE:
     
    DE C+Kendall Langford; NT A+Jason Ferguson; DE B-Randy Starks; LB B+Jason Taylor; LB B+Channing Crowder; LB B+Akin Ayodele; LB C-Joey Porter; CB B+Vontae Davis; CB CSean Smith; SS C-Yeremiah Bell; FS CChris Clemons
     
    CAROLINA PANTHERS OFFENSE & O-LINE:
     
    C-Jake Delhomme   CDeAngelo Williams (QUES)   A+Tony Fiammetta   C-Steve Smith   B-/C-Muhsin Muhammad   B-/C-Dwayne Jarrett   C-Jeff King   B+Dante Rosario
     
    RT B+Jeff Otah; RG C-Keydrick Vincent; C B-/C-Ryan Kalil; LG C-Travelle Wharton; LT A+Mackenzy Bernadeau
     
    CAROLINA PANTHERS DEFENSE:
     
    DE A+Tyler Brayton; DT C+Hollis Thomas; DT A+Tank Tyler; DE B-Julius Peppers; LB A+Na'il Diggs; LB B-Jon Beason; LB B-Landon Johnson; CB B-Chris Gamble; CB B+Richard Marshall; SS B+Chris Harris; FS AQuinton Teal
     
    Pick: Over 42.5

    Looks like it will be on hellova game

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyKane:

    MIAMI DOLPHINS OFFENSE & O-LINE:
     
    B+Chad Henne   B-Ronnie Brown   C+Ricky Williams   C-Lousaka Polite   C+Davone Bess   C-Ted Ginn Jr.   B+Brian Hartline   B-Joey Haynos
     
    RT AVernon Carey; RG B-Donald Thomas; C B-Jake Grove; LG A+Andrew Gardner; LT C-Jake Long
     
    MIAMI DOLPHINS DEFENSE:
     
    DE C+Kendall Langford; NT A+Jason Ferguson; DE B-Randy Starks; LB B+Jason Taylor; LB B+Channing Crowder; LB B+Akin Ayodele; LB C-Joey Porter; CB B+Vontae Davis; CB CSean Smith; SS C-Yeremiah Bell; FS CChris Clemons
     
    CAROLINA PANTHERS OFFENSE & O-LINE:
     
    C-Jake Delhomme   CDeAngelo Williams (QUES)   A+Tony Fiammetta   C-Steve Smith   B-/C-Muhsin Muhammad   B-/C-Dwayne Jarrett   C-Jeff King   B+Dante Rosario
     
    RT B+Jeff Otah; RG C-Keydrick Vincent; C B-/C-Ryan Kalil; LG C-Travelle Wharton; LT A+Mackenzy Bernadeau
     
    CAROLINA PANTHERS DEFENSE:
     
    DE A+Tyler Brayton; DT C+Hollis Thomas; DT A+Tank Tyler; DE B-Julius Peppers; LB A+Na'il Diggs; LB B-Jon Beason; LB B-Landon Johnson; CB B-Chris Gamble; CB B+Richard Marshall; SS B+Chris Harris; FS AQuinton Teal
     
    Pick: Over 42.5

    Looks like it will be on hellova game

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