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    Miami at Carolina (11/19/2009)

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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2009 - 2:57 AM ET #1

    Away:  Miami [4-5 ATS]
    Home:  Carolina [4-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: Bank of America Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Miami:
    Passing: Chad Henne (1165)
    Rushing: Ronnie Brown (648)
    Receiving: Davone Bess (334)

    Carolina:
    Passing: Jake Delhomme (1658)
    Rushing: DeAngelo Williams (860)
    Receiving: Steve Smith (512)

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    Away:  Miami [4-5 ATS]
    Home:  Carolina [4-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: Bank of America Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Miami:
    Passing: Chad Henne (1165)
    Rushing: Ronnie Brown (648)
    Receiving: Davone Bess (334)

    Carolina:
    Passing: Jake Delhomme (1658)
    Rushing: DeAngelo Williams (860)
    Receiving: Steve Smith (512)

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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2009 - 3:51 AM ET #2

    game is rigged.

     

    Panthers -3

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    game is rigged.

     

    Panthers -3

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2009 - 7:19 AM ET #3

    Panthers -3
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    Panthers -3
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2009 - 7:46 AM ET #4

    Caro and Over
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    Caro and Over
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2009 - 1:57 PM ET #5

    I think Carolina is giong to win this at home....

    it just seems a little to easy....

    both teams run the football well so I would initially lean towards the UNDER... but Miami has been putting points up every week... only NE held them to under 20....

    probably going to stay away from the total...

     

    GL TO ALL!

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    I think Carolina is giong to win this at home....

    it just seems a little to easy....

    both teams run the football well so I would initially lean towards the UNDER... but Miami has been putting points up every week... only NE held them to under 20....

    probably going to stay away from the total...

     

    GL TO ALL!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2009 - 2:12 PM ET #6

    I'm with everybody so far - I think the Panthers are for real & Miami's Wildcat "gimmick" is wearing thin. Panthers by a bunch.

     

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    I'm with everybody so far - I think the Panthers are for real & Miami's Wildcat "gimmick" is wearing thin. Panthers by a bunch.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2009 - 3:17 PM ET #7

    Panthers at home. The wildcat is wearing off. GL all.
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    Panthers at home. The wildcat is wearing off. GL all.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2009 - 4:02 PM ET #8

    ATL made Carolina look better than they truly are.  I'll back the Dolphins.  'Huzzah' for Thursday Night Football!!

    (A)  MIA  (ML)  +150

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    ATL made Carolina look better than they truly are.  I'll back the Dolphins.  'Huzzah' for Thursday Night Football!!

    (A)  MIA  (ML)  +150

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2009 - 4:45 PM ET #9

    carolina panthers -3....at home and miami without ronnie brown...they should cover the spread.
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    carolina panthers -3....at home and miami without ronnie brown...they should cover the spread.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2009 - 5:45 PM ET #10

    Under 43
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    Under 43
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2009 - 6:04 PM ET #11

    Couple of thoughts on this game:

    Panthers -3 is disrespectful to the Fins. So the books are saying that these 2 teams are even? Is you kiddin me?

    Joey Porter should be back. Thankfully it will be in a very limited role.  thank you Coach T for being a big enough man to put to this fool in his place. Miami is now playing defense with 11 men. With Charlie Anderson and pass rushing demon Cameron Wake in the game, the Dolphins pass rush drastically is better.

    Ronnie Browns loss is HUGE. However, I is still much anxious to see what Reefer Ricky and Pat White will do with expanded playing time.   

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    Couple of thoughts on this game:

    Panthers -3 is disrespectful to the Fins. So the books are saying that these 2 teams are even? Is you kiddin me?

    Joey Porter should be back. Thankfully it will be in a very limited role.  thank you Coach T for being a big enough man to put to this fool in his place. Miami is now playing defense with 11 men. With Charlie Anderson and pass rushing demon Cameron Wake in the game, the Dolphins pass rush drastically is better.

    Ronnie Browns loss is HUGE. However, I is still much anxious to see what Reefer Ricky and Pat White will do with expanded playing time.   

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2009 - 7:36 PM ET #12

    Play the OVER!! My book has it at 42.5. I think you'll find yourself around 30 at halftime with the home team down. Carolina will be forced to fight back and may or may not win, but will score trying. I'm not sold on the wildcat, but Henne, Ginn, & Williams are a nice trio to bet with. If Carolina had more consistent QB play, I would find myself on the other side of this equation. (Yes I saw the horrible throw Henne made Sunday, but he bounced back and won)  

    I like Miami to cover... I think they win outright, on the road, against a weaker NFC opponent! I think Vegas would like you to think Atlanta is somehow comparable to the Saints, but this just isn't conceivable. If Miami does lose, I don't think they lose by more than a field goal. (My book has the line at 3.5)

    NFL Network... The NFL runs this shit. They like viewers and won't let them down. This should be a nice rebound game from Monday. Holy HELL!!! I knew it would be bad, but not that bad!!!

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    Play the OVER!! My book has it at 42.5. I think you'll find yourself around 30 at halftime with the home team down. Carolina will be forced to fight back and may or may not win, but will score trying. I'm not sold on the wildcat, but Henne, Ginn, & Williams are a nice trio to bet with. If Carolina had more consistent QB play, I would find myself on the other side of this equation. (Yes I saw the horrible throw Henne made Sunday, but he bounced back and won)  

    I like Miami to cover... I think they win outright, on the road, against a weaker NFC opponent! I think Vegas would like you to think Atlanta is somehow comparable to the Saints, but this just isn't conceivable. If Miami does lose, I don't think they lose by more than a field goal. (My book has the line at 3.5)

    NFL Network... The NFL runs this shit. They like viewers and won't let them down. This should be a nice rebound game from Monday. Holy HELL!!! I knew it would be bad, but not that bad!!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2009 - 10:33 PM ET #13

    Weird...but the money seems to be on the Over but the total has dropped. Probably due to Ronnie Brown being out but still.

    Anyone have any thoughts on the total?
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    Weird...but the money seems to be on the Over but the total has dropped. Probably due to Ronnie Brown being out but still.

    Anyone have any thoughts on the total?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2009 - 10:56 PM ET #14

    Miami - 24                              Carolina - 21

    Dolphins +3                  over 42.5

    Going with the fish to pull off a mild upset on tobacco road..

    Over McGrumpy

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    Miami - 24                              Carolina - 21

    Dolphins +3                  over 42.5

    Going with the fish to pull off a mild upset on tobacco road..

    Over McGrumpy

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 6:42 AM ET #15

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    Mami @ Carolina +3 O/U 42.5

    Mami will put a lot of points up they dont have Brown playing so it is a Low Over/Under for this game with MIA puting up 20+ points every game this season but one agenst NE and CAR pting up 20+ 6 times in last 8 I can see a high scoreing game in this one. The WildCat is starting to get stoped by defences now and Brown being injured are making MIA not looking so good now but I still see them puting up 20+ Delhome is on a streek going 3 TD 0 INT doing beter then the 4 TD 13 INT start.MIA defense is leting 240 pass yards per game and delhome and Carolina's running game will take advantage of this and put up some points. No team realy stands out to me has being a winner in this one both teams are 4-5 and need a win.

    My Pick: Over

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    Mami @ Carolina +3 O/U 42.5

    Mami will put a lot of points up they dont have Brown playing so it is a Low Over/Under for this game with MIA puting up 20+ points every game this season but one agenst NE and CAR pting up 20+ 6 times in last 8 I can see a high scoreing game in this one. The WildCat is starting to get stoped by defences now and Brown being injured are making MIA not looking so good now but I still see them puting up 20+ Delhome is on a streek going 3 TD 0 INT doing beter then the 4 TD 13 INT start.MIA defense is leting 240 pass yards per game and delhome and Carolina's running game will take advantage of this and put up some points. No team realy stands out to me has being a winner in this one both teams are 4-5 and need a win.

    My Pick: Over

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 10:51 AM ET #16

    miami got this one
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    miami got this one
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 10:53 AM ET #17

    6 injuries from the atlanta game.. im just saying come on you have to love miami to atleast cover
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    6 injuries from the atlanta game.. im just saying come on you have to love miami to atleast cover
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 11:20 AM ET #18

    Miami

    excuse me for Clev game...0-0 first half...then blowout...

    This is another day...

    No Ronnie, no party (no wild cat), Delhomme conservative mode, DeAngelo controls the clock...

    Car 27 Mia 17

    CAR -3 -125 7/10

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    Miami

    excuse me for Clev game...0-0 first half...then blowout...

    This is another day...

    No Ronnie, no party (no wild cat), Delhomme conservative mode, DeAngelo controls the clock...

    Car 27 Mia 17

    CAR -3 -125 7/10

    GLA
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 12:16 PM ET #19

    I was really high on the Panthers until I found out Stewart wasn't playing, but I still think they're going to win.  They have been playing better football as of late and Ronnie Brown is the worse player that could ever get hurt for the Dolphins.  That Wildcat is very complex and he is a much stronger runner than Pat White.  Also, Carolina's secondary is one of the best in the league and Bess and Ginn are not the toughest matchup to begin with.  Low scoring game I'm taking the Panthers and the Under.
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    I was really high on the Panthers until I found out Stewart wasn't playing, but I still think they're going to win.  They have been playing better football as of late and Ronnie Brown is the worse player that could ever get hurt for the Dolphins.  That Wildcat is very complex and he is a much stronger runner than Pat White.  Also, Carolina's secondary is one of the best in the league and Bess and Ginn are not the toughest matchup to begin with.  Low scoring game I'm taking the Panthers and the Under.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 2:24 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    Miami - 24                              Carolina - 21

    Dolphins +3                  over 42.5

    Going with the fish to pull off a mild upset on tobacco road..

    Over McGrumpy

    I believe you hit this one on the nose Colonel.  How have ya been by the way?  I see it at 45 and 3 points either way also so might as well go with the dog.

    Miami +3

    Over 42'

    GL all,

    Tex

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    Miami - 24                              Carolina - 21

    Dolphins +3                  over 42.5

    Going with the fish to pull off a mild upset on tobacco road..

    Over McGrumpy

    I believe you hit this one on the nose Colonel.  How have ya been by the way?  I see it at 45 and 3 points either way also so might as well go with the dog.

    Miami +3

    Over 42'

    GL all,

    Tex

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 7:41 PM ET #21

    MIAMI (4-5) At CAROLINA (4-5)

    8:20 p.m. ET, NFL Network

    OPENING LINE - Panthers by 3

    RECORD VS. SPREAD - Miami 4-5; Carolina 4-5

    SERIES RECORD - Miami leads 3-0

    LAST MEETING - Dolphins beat Panthers 27-24, Sept. 25, 2005

    LAST WEEK - Dolphins beat Buccaneers 25-23; Panthers beat Falcons 28-19

    DOLPHINS OFFENSE - OVERALL (23), RUSH (4), PASS (30)

    DOLPHINS DEFENSE - OVERALL (19), RUSH (7), PASS (27)

    PANTHERS OFFENSE - OVERALL (21), RUSH (3), PASS (25)

    PANTHERS DEFENSE - OVERALL (12), RUSH (25), PASS (4)

    Dan Henning wants revenge for John Fox blaming the 2006 season on him & will have some tricks up his sleeve to make Fox look bad. Miami is also 3-0 all time against the Panthers.

    Miami-27     Carolina-20   Miami-3 Over 42.5

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    MIAMI (4-5) At CAROLINA (4-5)

    8:20 p.m. ET, NFL Network

    OPENING LINE - Panthers by 3

    RECORD VS. SPREAD - Miami 4-5; Carolina 4-5

    SERIES RECORD - Miami leads 3-0

    LAST MEETING - Dolphins beat Panthers 27-24, Sept. 25, 2005

    LAST WEEK - Dolphins beat Buccaneers 25-23; Panthers beat Falcons 28-19

    DOLPHINS OFFENSE - OVERALL (23), RUSH (4), PASS (30)

    DOLPHINS DEFENSE - OVERALL (19), RUSH (7), PASS (27)

    PANTHERS OFFENSE - OVERALL (21), RUSH (3), PASS (25)

    PANTHERS DEFENSE - OVERALL (12), RUSH (25), PASS (4)

    Dan Henning wants revenge for John Fox blaming the 2006 season on him & will have some tricks up his sleeve to make Fox look bad. Miami is also 3-0 all time against the Panthers.

    Miami-27     Carolina-20   Miami-3 Over 42.5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 9:09 PM ET #22

    I like this game more and more... I'm putting my play in now, so I can lock in the line/total. I think it will move a little tomorrow and I like it right where it is. I've watched both teams play a couple of times and I am simply going off a gut feeling and not a "trend" or particular stat. 

    I'd like to take a moment and express my deep admiration for NFL Redzone (Channel 82 for all you Dish Customers). If you have the opprotunity/means to purchase the channel, do it. It's worth it! No commercials, every score is shown live (if possible), and up to the second stats & scores make it a degenerate's bestfriend. No sales pitch here, as I have zero affiliation with either the NFL or Dish for that matter, but I am one that likes to spread the word if there is a particular product, or service that I feel is exceptional. 

    Final play(s)...  Ov 42.5 ($2) & Miami +3.5 ($1)

    Good Luck to ALL!!  

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    I like this game more and more... I'm putting my play in now, so I can lock in the line/total. I think it will move a little tomorrow and I like it right where it is. I've watched both teams play a couple of times and I am simply going off a gut feeling and not a "trend" or particular stat. 

    I'd like to take a moment and express my deep admiration for NFL Redzone (Channel 82 for all you Dish Customers). If you have the opprotunity/means to purchase the channel, do it. It's worth it! No commercials, every score is shown live (if possible), and up to the second stats & scores make it a degenerate's bestfriend. No sales pitch here, as I have zero affiliation with either the NFL or Dish for that matter, but I am one that likes to spread the word if there is a particular product, or service that I feel is exceptional. 

    Final play(s)...  Ov 42.5 ($2) & Miami +3.5 ($1)

    Good Luck to ALL!!  

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 11:14 PM ET #23

    My largest play all week...

    *****Over 42.5

    GL EVERYONE!
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    My largest play all week...

    *****Over 42.5

    GL EVERYONE!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 12:03 AM ET #24

    With these Thur games the team that has to do less traveling benefits from a short week. Ronnie Brown WAS the wildcat. This will hurt. The Panthers injury report looks Belichicklike. The over and home team usually takes the Thur thunder. Delhomme has been removed from the equation offensivewise. Lets get that large with CAR and OV.

    If you’re not large, you’re small - the DOC
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    With these Thur games the team that has to do less traveling benefits from a short week. Ronnie Brown WAS the wildcat. This will hurt. The Panthers injury report looks Belichicklike. The over and home team usually takes the Thur thunder. Delhomme has been removed from the equation offensivewise. Lets get that large with CAR and OV.

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2009 - 12:06 AM ET #25

    Another thing too my gambling brothers. Delhomme has not thrown a pick in last three games further explaining my notion of they are minimizing him in favor of the run. Get that large.
    If you’re not large, you’re small - the DOC
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    Another thing too my gambling brothers. Delhomme has not thrown a pick in last three games further explaining my notion of they are minimizing him in favor of the run. Get that large.
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