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#51
Candlestick Park to ask the Niner Nation a question, "Who's Got It Better (Than Us)?"
NO BODY!!!
49ERS -3 !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3TCBiyh-eM
Green Bay at San Francisco (01/12/2013)
Posted:
#52
Quote Originally Posted by JGatzB:
I got a angle that hasnt been discussed on here yet, its sticking in my mind when I think of this game. Its possibly simplified too much but here goes it, The "high power" Seattle offense put up a 40 burger on this defense....The Seattle Seahawks put up a 40 burger on this defense in primetime, in a game the 9ers needed to clinch...That worries me substantially, I dont think I'm going out on a limb by saying GB has a better offense then Seattle.Some would say it was because Seattle was at home with the 12th man...okay that might be enough to get a win...but to win by 30?? I dont see this as a close game, I see GB scoring on 4 of their first 5 possessions and the 9ers playing catch up the whole game. Packers win this game easily and the QB controversy begins, could Alex have won that game? will it be a open competition? and so on.
I got a angle that hasnt been discussed on here yet, its sticking in my mind when I think of this game. Its possibly simplified too much but here goes it, The "high power" Seattle offense put up a 40 burger on this defense....The Seattle Seahawks put up a 40 burger on this defense in primetime, in a game the 9ers needed to clinch...That worries me substantially, I dont think I'm going out on a limb by saying GB has a better offense then Seattle.Some would say it was because Seattle was at home with the 12th man...okay that might be enough to get a win...but to win by 30?? I dont see this as a close game, I see GB scoring on 4 of their first 5 possessions and the 9ers playing catch up the whole game. Packers win this game easily and the QB controversy begins, could Alex have won that game? will it be a open competition? and so on.
I'm undecided on this game, leaning towards SF at home, but I wnated to address this point (a good one I might add)
The Seattle road game was the second straight road game after a tough hard fought physical battle vs. New England in Foxborough.... it's hard to win a game like that, fly home, prepare for a div rival the very next week on short rest and then fly to Seattle to face the 12th man....
Not only is it hard, the defense was especially weak without Justin Smith..... Aldon Smith needs Justin Smith to set him up..... that component was missing in the Seattle matchup and in my opinion was a huge factor of Seattle's running game.... plus Wilson was escaping at will vs the depleted D-line....
3rd- Rookie QB on the road in the hardest atmosphere.....
I would throw that game out when capping this match-up....
I'm more concerned this game wil turn into a New Orleans/SF playoff shootout that happened last playoffs... If that were to happen I'd have to give the edge to the Packers....
Candlestick park is known to have horrible grass that may factor into slowing down the quick GB offense....
I'm not betting against Harbaugh off a bye week at home with that defense well-rested....
Then again I have trouble laying 3 vs. Rodgers....
Hope my insight helps.
GL TO ALL!
Posted:
#53
Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:
I'm undecided on this game, leaning towards SF at home, but I wnated to address this point (a good one I might add)
The Seattle road game was the second straight road game after a tough hard fought physical battle vs. New England in Foxborough.... it's hard to win a game like that, fly home, prepare for a div rival the very next week on short rest and then fly to Seattle to face the 12th man....
Not only is it hard, the defense was especially weak without Justin Smith..... Aldon Smith needs Justin Smith to set him up..... that component was missing in the Seattle matchup and in my opinion was a huge factor of Seattle's running game.... plus Wilson was escaping at will vs the depleted D-line....
3rd- Rookie QB on the road in the hardest atmosphere.....
I would throw that game out when capping this match-up....
I'm more concerned this game wil turn into a New Orleans/SF playoff shootout that happened last playoffs... If that were to happen I'd have to give the edge to the Packers....
Candlestick park is known to have horrible grass that may factor into slowing down the quick GB offense....
I'm not betting against Harbaugh off a bye week at home with that defense well-rested....
Then again I have trouble laying 3 vs. Rodgers....
Hope my insight helps.
GL TO ALL!
my thoughts exactly. 9ers flew up to washington after flying across the country to ne the week before. the stadium noise was also huge. 9ers burnt through their timeouts in no time and couldnt get alot of plays off in time. off of a bye week and at home, i think what i look forward to seeing most is how the secondary holds up and if they can create some problems for a rodgers who i think is going to be rushed by a revitalized pass rush for sf.
Posted:
#54
Kapernick will be seeing Mr Clay Matthews
all game long. Mr Rodgers will be throwing it around like it's flag football. The Packers has a huge advantage in the qb department, which will be the deciding factor in the game. Believe it or not, Alex Smith would be a better fit to handle the Packers' defense, but he's not playing.
all game long. Mr Rodgers will be throwing it around like it's flag football. The Packers has a huge advantage in the qb department, which will be the deciding factor in the game. Believe it or not, Alex Smith would be a better fit to handle the Packers' defense, but he's not playing.
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#55
Quote Originally Posted by zzziggy:
Ya bro I was talking 2012. Worst total yardage defense ever. I know it is a year later, but is Dom Capers schemes working?
Personally, I think this game is about one player, Kaepernick. He will determine the game. We KNOW he has a better offensive line, better D, better coach, but can he not blow the game? Im not saying can he out play the MVP, but can he manage the 49ers to victory? That's the question, everyone needs to ask, and depending on that one answer is where most people will place their money?
What do you think of Colin Kaepernick?
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#56
Quote Originally Posted by zzziggy:
Oops! Agree with most of it Zig and have much respect for Harbaugh but McCarthy is a good coach. 49'ers are better overall but you can't bet against Rodgers and those recievers. I agree it's a toss up and I'll also strongly agree Go Pack!Ya bro I was talking 2012. Worst total yardage defense ever. I know it is a year later, but is Dom Capers schemes working?
Personally, I think this game is about one player, Kaepernick. He will determine the game. We KNOW he has a better offensive line, better D, better coach, but can he not blow the game? Im not saying can he out play the MVP, but can he manage the 49ers to victory? That's the question, everyone needs to ask, and depending on that one answer is where most people will place their money?
What do you think of Colin Kaepernick?
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#57
Quote Originally Posted by forkball:
RECALL IF YOU WILL HOW THE NINERS WERE A TURNOVER AWAY FROM GOING TO THE SUPERBOWL LAST YEAR. RECALL WHAT SF DID TO GB EARLIER THIS YEAR AT LAMBEAU. AND THAT WAS UNDER SMITH. . .
KAP ADDS TWO DIMENSIONS, SPEED AND ROCKET ARM WITH PRECISION, IN FACT HE TESTED HIGHEST IN THE NFL FOR OVERALL PERFORMANCE IN PASSING BY INDEPENDANT STUDY WHICH I VIEWED, THE GUY IS AMAZING. NINER OFFENSE NEEDLESS TO SAY DOESN'T RELY ON A STAR QUARTERBACK BUT I THINK THEY HAVE ONE IN THE MAKING.
NINER D MATCHES UP STRONG AGAINST RUNLESS PACK. GB WILL BECOME ONE DIMENSIONAL. CHECK MATE.
ROCKET ARM? KID THROWS LIKE A girl IF YOU ASK ME. HE WILL HAVE HIS DIAPER FULL BY PREGAME...NO WAY BETWEEN THE EARS IS THIS KID READY. HARBAUGH WILL BE BITING HIS TONGUE AFTER THIS ONE.
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#58
zzziggy, i could care less if you ever answer my reply. I thought this was an open forum. I didn't say you were wrong. You're entitled to your opinoin as am I. I just disagreed.thats all. I heard in Vegas 58% / 42% as well. I don't think that's overwhelming jon q public. When the sharpies finish Fri and sat...............that number could be 50/50 at game time. Who knows???
Good Luck
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#59
My feeling is that the line was created to keep money flowing each way. If they opened this game at 6 or 6 1/2, they clearly would have wanted GB money.... drive the line down and collect when SF wins. My opionoin is this line at 3 means this game is a toss up and either team can win or dominate and the books keep the money flow reasonably balanced and collect the juice without really getting hurt considering you have an untested QB in a pressure cooker.
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#60
Quote Originally Posted by zzziggy:
Never liked Kap at UNR. Unpredictable, erratic and inconsistant. Can't see downfield when running because he would rather tuck it in and run with it, rather than see an open WR downfield. Close game to call but the kicker wins it. GREEN BAY
Ya bro I was talking 2012. Worst total yardage defense ever. I know it is a year later, but is Dom Capers schemes working?
Personally, I think this game is about one player, Kaepernick. He will determine the game. We KNOW he has a better offensive line, better D, better coach, but can he not blow the game? Im not saying can he out play the MVP, but can he manage the 49ers to victory? That's the question, everyone needs to ask, and depending on that one answer is where most people will place their money?
What do you think of Colin Kaepernick?
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#62
When the game is a toss up, take the dog and the points. Remember how the 49ers were waiting all year to play the Giants again? What happened? a 26-3 blowout on their home field. AR will throw 70 times to win if he has to.
49ers will try and rough up AR like they did Eli last year. If Packers get a big lead in the 1st half, the game is over.
MY SB picks are the Broncos and Seahawks.
49ers will try and rough up AR like they did Eli last year. If Packers get a big lead in the 1st half, the game is over.
MY SB picks are the Broncos and Seahawks.
Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!
Posted:
#64
To Skiball:
Your right about my agressiveness, so sorry man! I thought you were attacking my stats, but in reality you were offering strong information to the forum with your posts (I think your strongest stat was the sack comparison being closer than most would expect)
But to be clear the spread is 60/40 in favor of GB, but that's not where most of the GB money is comming...GB is being bet 80/20 on the ML with plus (+) money, so no matter how hard the pros hit back SF today and Sat, it looks like the bookies will be pulling for SF.
Nothing but love Skiball, you still taking GB?
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#65
Ahhh good stuff BreakaBookie, I had totally spaced Smith not playing in that game, and agree he plays a pivotal role on the d-line and for that entire defense as well. Very good point.(as well as hellahigh pointing out it was back to back road games both played in tough environments late in the season) The real question is how effective will J. Smith be injured? I dont think pain will factor much into his effort, its a matter of how much the injury will physically hinder him imo. Even a healthy Smith will have his hands full with AR. Idk I deff cant spot AR any points thats for sure. This game at a pick'em??(which it should be!) Still to close for me, I would take the niners getting...hell any points. No way I can give points vs GB with a untested QB in Kap, to risky in my eyes.
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#66
This surprised me....
Kaepernick had a QB rating of 98.3 this year. He didn't take enough snaps to qualify him for the season's final rankings, but with that score he would have ranked fifth (5th), only behind Wilson, RG 3, P. Manning, and Rodgers, respectively.
I thought his speciality was running the ball? Seems like an efficient passer to me...
The stat kind of scared me, as a pack fan
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#69
Heres something to consider as well, Frank Gore hasnt rushed for over 100 yards since Kap took over as the starter. I dont know the official record of the niners when Gore runs for less than 100 yards but, I would say its far below 50% right off the top of my head?? I know they are outstanding when he does get over the 100 yard mark. Seems like Frank Gore may be the biggest single factor in this game. Can he get over 100 against GB? In the first meeting he had 112 on only 16 carries for a average of 7.0, now get this...his long was only 23 yards. He was still gashing them for 5.9 WITHOUT his longest run.
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#70
San Francisco - 24 Green Bay - 20
49ers -2.5 
under 44.5
Harbaugh lost at home last year to the G-Men, I don't see it happening again tomorrow. 49ers will show they learned from that experience. Packers this year are not what the Giants were last year. End of the road for the Cheeseheads.
49ers - Under 
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#71
Yeah.......I'm still taking GB. Small play but teasing them up to 10. I need to be convinced that Kapernick can do this on the big stage and do it with a healthy Matthews speed rushing him or perhaps he's the spy. SF may win but I still think Kapernick craps the bed a few times.
98.3 is an eye opener but I think he needs helpaningham had 40+ catches in limited time and I;m not sure after the last game that Davis is 100% and even the booth noticed how he stared down Crabtree. Woodson is a crafty one and may bait this kid. Alot may depend on how well SF can run the ball...................may be the key here. Good Luck.
Go get'em tiger.
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#72
Look for GB to spread out four wide taking advantage of a suspect 49ers secondary. In my opinion if the pass rush doesn't get to Rodgers all the time he will pick SF apart there pass coverage is overrated due to the pressure they can put on the QB. GB will have problems stopping the run but will cause a couple of turn overs and win a close exciting game.
24-20 Packers
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