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    Green Bay at San Francisco (01/12/2013)

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    Fungazi
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 4:16 PM ET #26

    Rookie QBs in the playoffs
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    Rookie QBs in the playoffs
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 4:49 PM ET #27

    niners baby   love the niners   dont hate green bay  just love the niners more
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    niners baby   love the niners   dont hate green bay  just love the niners more
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 5:08 PM ET #28

    should be the best game of the weekend... closest to the spread... of the 4 games, this seems like the one to stay away... looking forward to watching it, though... think SF wins a close one...


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    should be the best game of the weekend... closest to the spread... of the 4 games, this seems like the one to stay away... looking forward to watching it, though... think SF wins a close one...


     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 5:09 PM ET #29

         

    SAN FRANCISCO  -  3

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    SAN FRANCISCO  -  3

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 7:56 PM ET #30

    niners 27 gb 21
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    niners 27 gb 21
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 11:36 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_E:



    that loss of gas was the patriot no huddle wearing them down and not allowing substitutions ... same thing they did to JJ sWatt. I watched a panicked and exhausted look on watts face during that game. Niners got a huge lead due to a large amount of turnovers, credit to their defense which is very opportunistic however there were a lot of turnovers that game due to the rain.

    I think GB will take notes on a newly exposed niners weakness and have a hell of a shot with an elite Rodgers at the helm. Im picking GB  SU
    GreenBay has by far the lesser defense of the two not even close. Greenbay has been mixed up with minnesota 3 times in the last two months Tennessee and Jax and throw in the Bears. This DUAL threat QB plus Gore in my opinion will shred the GB defense with run pass and play action pass. Now Rogers is great he's top 2 in the league BUT he does not play defense. I'm sure GB will score but their defense will be torn apart. SF will control this game and limit GB's offense enough to win and cover. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_E:



    that loss of gas was the patriot no huddle wearing them down and not allowing substitutions ... same thing they did to JJ sWatt. I watched a panicked and exhausted look on watts face during that game. Niners got a huge lead due to a large amount of turnovers, credit to their defense which is very opportunistic however there were a lot of turnovers that game due to the rain.

    I think GB will take notes on a newly exposed niners weakness and have a hell of a shot with an elite Rodgers at the helm. Im picking GB  SU
    GreenBay has by far the lesser defense of the two not even close. Greenbay has been mixed up with minnesota 3 times in the last two months Tennessee and Jax and throw in the Bears. This DUAL threat QB plus Gore in my opinion will shred the GB defense with run pass and play action pass. Now Rogers is great he's top 2 in the league BUT he does not play defense. I'm sure GB will score but their defense will be torn apart. SF will control this game and limit GB's offense enough to win and cover. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 12:16 AM ET #32

    No.......I'm not kidding. Numbers don't lie. SF has a good defense but let's not crown them best defense in 50 yrs. Kapernick has not been on the big stage. Manningham is out.he constantly stares down Crabtree. If he's doubled and Davis is not 100% and with  the field  in the terriblre shape ESPN is reporting it's in................Kapernick can not beat GB on his own..........he will make mistakes. Two TO's by SF and they're dead.
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    No.......I'm not kidding. Numbers don't lie. SF has a good defense but let's not crown them best defense in 50 yrs. Kapernick has not been on the big stage. Manningham is out.he constantly stares down Crabtree. If he's doubled and Davis is not 100% and with  the field  in the terriblre shape ESPN is reporting it's in................Kapernick can not beat GB on his own..........he will make mistakes. Two TO's by SF and they're dead.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 12:19 AM ET #33

    I'll take my chances with the best QB in the NFL along with the best receiving core and I'll outscore the rookie.

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    I'll take my chances with the best QB in the NFL along with the best receiving core and I'll outscore the rookie.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 12:20 AM ET #34

    Niners defense so good.how did NE get back in that sunday night game????????????????????????????
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    Niners defense so good.how did NE get back in that sunday night game????????????????????????????
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 12:26 AM ET #35

    SF defense gives up 294yds game  and 17.1pts

    GB 338 yds game 21 pts.

    Pretty close............ Rogers sacked 51 times

    SF QB sacked 41 times.

     

    Boy are these numbers far apart.....please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    SF defense gives up 294yds game  and 17.1pts

    GB 338 yds game 21 pts.

    Pretty close............ Rogers sacked 51 times

    SF QB sacked 41 times.

     

    Boy are these numbers far apart.....please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 4:06 AM ET #36

    ima give you all this, the first game this yr. you throw out. both these teams have evolved sinced then! so with that in mind look at how their both playing now, still both at a decent high level on both sides of the ball,given a long season & accumulated injury, and now recovery. offensively greenbay has the edge, as it is a qb driven league! & magnified in the playoffs! as most of the top signal callers have made it to the post season!!  gb has now the better pass catchers now that they are healthy!   sf has the better run game as fact! so they will be better served to lean on their run game with good depth & a running qb!! big key here!!! now that dom capers, stop troops are slowly returning from the bench, he will employ a strat. that forces c.kap. to beat the pack from the pocket, with gap assignment & various looks, situational blitzes, & coverages! to confuse & frustrate a young qb in his truly first big contest!!! mind you this salty & savvy coach has done it for decades! if he can do it to big ben & steeltown in the biggest game, im confident he can repeat that here!!  niners have homefield & defensive edge with a great pass rushing front seven & run stop unit! one that thrives on turnovers to flip field position for their power run game & play action pass! but it seems to be vulnerable to a precision passing game! examples: brady & ne, eli & nyg. sam brad. & stl? a.rod will score pts, on this defense!!! fg kicker is shaky tho. for gb..he did steady himself at seasons end but that could be a handicap for the cheesers! i gotta take the pts. here, cause when i started this post, i read a previous post and thought he had a valid note that the play could be the under! but the more i blog the more i feel it could be a shootout like last yrs. div. round at candlestick with who dat nation! that was a thirtysomething all shootout, as both prepared coaching staffs had no choice but to unload their playbooks..and both teams stop units will give up pts. with offenses that can score consistently!!!!

    regardless gl to all bros. & sis. aloha! 

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    ima give you all this, the first game this yr. you throw out. both these teams have evolved sinced then! so with that in mind look at how their both playing now, still both at a decent high level on both sides of the ball,given a long season & accumulated injury, and now recovery. offensively greenbay has the edge, as it is a qb driven league! & magnified in the playoffs! as most of the top signal callers have made it to the post season!!  gb has now the better pass catchers now that they are healthy!   sf has the better run game as fact! so they will be better served to lean on their run game with good depth & a running qb!! big key here!!! now that dom capers, stop troops are slowly returning from the bench, he will employ a strat. that forces c.kap. to beat the pack from the pocket, with gap assignment & various looks, situational blitzes, & coverages! to confuse & frustrate a young qb in his truly first big contest!!! mind you this salty & savvy coach has done it for decades! if he can do it to big ben & steeltown in the biggest game, im confident he can repeat that here!!  niners have homefield & defensive edge with a great pass rushing front seven & run stop unit! one that thrives on turnovers to flip field position for their power run game & play action pass! but it seems to be vulnerable to a precision passing game! examples: brady & ne, eli & nyg. sam brad. & stl? a.rod will score pts, on this defense!!! fg kicker is shaky tho. for gb..he did steady himself at seasons end but that could be a handicap for the cheesers! i gotta take the pts. here, cause when i started this post, i read a previous post and thought he had a valid note that the play could be the under! but the more i blog the more i feel it could be a shootout like last yrs. div. round at candlestick with who dat nation! that was a thirtysomething all shootout, as both prepared coaching staffs had no choice but to unload their playbooks..and both teams stop units will give up pts. with offenses that can score consistently!!!!

    regardless gl to all bros. & sis. aloha! 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 9:07 AM ET #37

    GO PACK GO
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    GO PACK GO
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 9:38 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by Fungazi:

    Rookie QBs in the playoffs

    Except for Seahawks Rookie QB sensation Russell Wilson 1-0  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fungazi:

    Rookie QBs in the playoffs

    Except for Seahawks Rookie QB sensation Russell Wilson 1-0  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 10:05 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by zzziggy:

    Big 5 Reasons

    5. GB had the worst defense in NFL history last year! We still miss Nick Collins, most fans don't know his story or how good/important to this packer team. Google Nick Collins to hear it if you don't know it...

    4. I don't think the MIN win was that impressive like most Packer fans do. I thought a good team would have beat Joe Webb at home by more than 10.

    3. Harbaugh's team has gotten an extra week preparing for this GB team, and is at home. This also gave guys like Justin Smith extra time to get healthy.
    *Note that this is because of the replacement officials.* 

    2. They played week one in Lambeau and SF dominated the line play on both sides and won 30-22.

    1. Public nailing GB....

    Wanted to bet GB, but I don't think I can for those five reasons...

    Regardless I personally don't need money on this game to say, 

    Go PACK Go


    Very concise and well thought out analysis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zzziggy:

    Big 5 Reasons

    5. GB had the worst defense in NFL history last year! We still miss Nick Collins, most fans don't know his story or how good/important to this packer team. Google Nick Collins to hear it if you don't know it...

    4. I don't think the MIN win was that impressive like most Packer fans do. I thought a good team would have beat Joe Webb at home by more than 10.

    3. Harbaugh's team has gotten an extra week preparing for this GB team, and is at home. This also gave guys like Justin Smith extra time to get healthy.
    *Note that this is because of the replacement officials.* 

    2. They played week one in Lambeau and SF dominated the line play on both sides and won 30-22.

    1. Public nailing GB....

    Wanted to bet GB, but I don't think I can for those five reasons...

    Regardless I personally don't need money on this game to say, 

    Go PACK Go


    Very concise and well thought out analysis.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 10:21 AM ET #40

    Math play based on both teams' home and away scoring averages (PF and PA) this year:

     San Francisco 24  Green Bay 19 

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    Math play based on both teams' home and away scoring averages (PF and PA) this year:

     San Francisco 24  Green Bay 19 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 10:23 AM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

         

    SAN FRANCISCO  -  3

    Dang Vue! I think the only game we agree on this week is the Patriots!

    This game should be the closest out of all 4 this week, in my opinion. I know people have already said it, but I just gotta roll with the QB experience.

    And for everyone trying to make comparisons back to that first game that the Niners won - that was Alex Smith, not Kapernick.

    Hopefully Rodgers can make me hundreds with a few "Discount Double Checks" this weekend too!!!!!

    Good Luck All!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

         

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    Dang Vue! I think the only game we agree on this week is the Patriots!

    This game should be the closest out of all 4 this week, in my opinion. I know people have already said it, but I just gotta roll with the QB experience.

    And for everyone trying to make comparisons back to that first game that the Niners won - that was Alex Smith, not Kapernick.

    Hopefully Rodgers can make me hundreds with a few "Discount Double Checks" this weekend too!!!!!

    Good Luck All!!!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 12:23 PM ET #42

    The SF offense is the concern for me in this game but I like them playing at home and Harbaugh getting an extra week to prepare while the team gets the rest.  Green Bay/Rodgers has the passing game but no running game so SF should be able to contain a one dimensional offense.  I am leaning SF at this point but think this will be a tight game either way. Would love some more non-homer comments to consider before I make my bet.

    Early lean to San Francisco    Small play for a "one play", close game.

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    The SF offense is the concern for me in this game but I like them playing at home and Harbaugh getting an extra week to prepare while the team gets the rest.  Green Bay/Rodgers has the passing game but no running game so SF should be able to contain a one dimensional offense.  I am leaning SF at this point but think this will be a tight game either way. Would love some more non-homer comments to consider before I make my bet.

    Early lean to San Francisco    Small play for a "one play", close game.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 12:45 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by SKIBALL:

    With regards to GB's defense, I'm not sure an 11th ranked defense is the worst in NFL history. If you're talking about 2012. With their ranking, that would put them in the upper third. SF ranked 3rd. Only a difference of 40yds per game and gb gives up 4 pts a game more than SF. Pretty close in all areas. Are you sre about your info?

    Ya bro I was talking 2012. Worst total yardage defense ever. I know it is a year later, but is Dom Capers schemes working?

     

    Personally, I think this game is about one player, Kaepernick. He will determine the game. We KNOW he has a better offensive line, better D, better coach, but can he not blow the game? Im not saying can he out play the MVP, but can he manage the 49ers to victory? That's the question, everyone needs to ask, and depending on that one answer is where most people will place their money?

     

    What do you think of Colin Kaepernick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKIBALL:

    With regards to GB's defense, I'm not sure an 11th ranked defense is the worst in NFL history. If you're talking about 2012. With their ranking, that would put them in the upper third. SF ranked 3rd. Only a difference of 40yds per game and gb gives up 4 pts a game more than SF. Pretty close in all areas. Are you sre about your info?

    Ya bro I was talking 2012. Worst total yardage defense ever. I know it is a year later, but is Dom Capers schemes working?

     

    Personally, I think this game is about one player, Kaepernick. He will determine the game. We KNOW he has a better offensive line, better D, better coach, but can he not blow the game? Im not saying can he out play the MVP, but can he manage the 49ers to victory? That's the question, everyone needs to ask, and depending on that one answer is where most people will place their money?

     

    What do you think of Colin Kaepernick?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 12:58 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by SKIBALL:

    Spread opened at 3 and still is 3. How is the publice nailing the Pack??????????????? What's up zzziggy??????

    Dude, your kidding right? 62% of cover's picks is GB. Sportsbook.ag has it at 58% of the spead bets on GB and the mL at 82%. I heard on twitter  that ticket counts are on GB at a 3-1 at the LVH.

    Why the darn you think the line isn't moving dude? Money talks, and professionals are hammering SF to even out the public money.

     

    This game is the classic  professionals vs. public preception battle. This is how the pros make their money.

     

    That is why, as I said in my first post, I won't play this game. Because I don't play against GB  (#12 the GOAT) or professionals. PASS

    And Skiball, I'm never responding to your dumb questions again, clearly an ameatuer here. GL to everyone playing GB!

     

    Go Pack Go

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKIBALL:

    Spread opened at 3 and still is 3. How is the publice nailing the Pack??????????????? What's up zzziggy??????

    Dude, your kidding right? 62% of cover's picks is GB. Sportsbook.ag has it at 58% of the spead bets on GB and the mL at 82%. I heard on twitter  that ticket counts are on GB at a 3-1 at the LVH.

    Why the darn you think the line isn't moving dude? Money talks, and professionals are hammering SF to even out the public money.

     

    This game is the classic  professionals vs. public preception battle. This is how the pros make their money.

     

    That is why, as I said in my first post, I won't play this game. Because I don't play against GB  (#12 the GOAT) or professionals. PASS

    And Skiball, I'm never responding to your dumb questions again, clearly an ameatuer here. GL to everyone playing GB!

     

    Go Pack Go

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 1:59 PM ET #45

    I think SF will win at  home.... but I'm staying away....

     

    GL TO ALL!

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    I think SF will win at  home.... but I'm staying away....

     

    GL TO ALL!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 2:36 PM ET #46

    Can't see why the CONSENSUS is so slanted GB..you are essentially picking a winner and I see GB's odds at about 40% tops...maybe add 5% for 2.5 points......Pack couldn't beat them opening day at home...don't see them doing it here...will be close though.... SF 24 GB 20.
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    Can't see why the CONSENSUS is so slanted GB..you are essentially picking a winner and I see GB's odds at about 40% tops...maybe add 5% for 2.5 points......Pack couldn't beat them opening day at home...don't see them doing it here...will be close though.... SF 24 GB 20.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 2:39 PM ET #47

    This notion that GB has the best recieving corp is NUTZ...they seldom catch tough balls with hands...they are a product of their QB..lets see how many tough catches they make Sat...the big/tough TD catch Jones had this year fell into his elbows..total luck that he was called "great" for!
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    This notion that GB has the best recieving corp is NUTZ...they seldom catch tough balls with hands...they are a product of their QB..lets see how many tough catches they make Sat...the big/tough TD catch Jones had this year fell into his elbows..total luck that he was called "great" for!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 3:00 PM ET #48

    Great discussion going on in this forum...I think it is safe to say that the consensus of this forum is that this is going to be the game of the week!

    Go Pack Go

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    Great discussion going on in this forum...I think it is safe to say that the consensus of this forum is that this is going to be the game of the week!

    Go Pack Go

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 3:27 PM ET #49

    I got a angle that hasnt been discussed on here yet, its sticking in my mind when I think of this game. Its possibly simplified too much but here goes it, The "high power" Seattle offense put up a 40 burger on this defense....The Seattle Seahawks put up a 40 burger on this defense in primetime, in a game the 9ers needed to clinch...That worries me substantially, I dont think I'm going out on a limb by saying GB has a better offense then Seattle.Some would say it was because Seattle was at home with the 12th man...okay that might be enough to get a win...but to win by 30?? I dont see this as a close game, I see GB scoring on 4 of their first 5 possessions and the 9ers playing catch up the whole game. Packers win this game easily and the QB controversy begins, could Alex have won that game? will it be a open competition? and so on.
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    I got a angle that hasnt been discussed on here yet, its sticking in my mind when I think of this game. Its possibly simplified too much but here goes it, The "high power" Seattle offense put up a 40 burger on this defense....The Seattle Seahawks put up a 40 burger on this defense in primetime, in a game the 9ers needed to clinch...That worries me substantially, I dont think I'm going out on a limb by saying GB has a better offense then Seattle.Some would say it was because Seattle was at home with the 12th man...okay that might be enough to get a win...but to win by 30?? I dont see this as a close game, I see GB scoring on 4 of their first 5 possessions and the 9ers playing catch up the whole game. Packers win this game easily and the QB controversy begins, could Alex have won that game? will it be a open competition? and so on.
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 3:46 PM ET #50

    SF:23
    GB:21
    PACK(+3)
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    SF:23
    GB:21
    PACK(+3)
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