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    Denver at Baltimore (12/16/2012)

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    XSixburghX
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2012 - 1:20 AM ET #26

    Four bad weeks in a row, fired their offensive coordinator, and now have to face the Broncos? Baltimore is in trouble. 

    To me their previous home success mean very little to me. This is a different team, and the defense is paper thin. The only way Baltimore wins this game is in a shoot out. 

    Broncos -3 without hesitation. 
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    Four bad weeks in a row, fired their offensive coordinator, and now have to face the Broncos? Baltimore is in trouble. 

    To me their previous home success mean very little to me. This is a different team, and the defense is paper thin. The only way Baltimore wins this game is in a shoot out. 

    Broncos -3 without hesitation. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2012 - 8:41 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by W-Rod:

    Excellent right up Sammy like always! i fully agree with you, one question though, do you recommend locking up the +3 right now or wait to see i it goes a little higher? the public is hitting denver almost 60%

    hmm, i think the books will see steady action on both sides at 3.  I wouldn't worry about it going to 3.5 or 4.  If I'm right about this one, the sharps probably won't let that happen.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by W-Rod:

    Excellent right up Sammy like always! i fully agree with you, one question though, do you recommend locking up the +3 right now or wait to see i it goes a little higher? the public is hitting denver almost 60%

    hmm, i think the books will see steady action on both sides at 3.  I wouldn't worry about it going to 3.5 or 4.  If I'm right about this one, the sharps probably won't let that happen.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2012 - 9:30 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:


    hmm, i think the books will see steady action on both sides at 3.  I wouldn't worry about it going to 3.5 or 4.  If I'm right about this one, the sharps probably won't let that happen.  
    Thanks sammy! BOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:


    hmm, i think the books will see steady action on both sides at 3.  I wouldn't worry about it going to 3.5 or 4.  If I'm right about this one, the sharps probably won't let that happen.  
    Thanks sammy! BOL!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2012 - 12:18 PM ET #29

    Not only is the Ravens offense scrambling around like a chicken with it's head (coordinator) cut off, but I can also see Peyton carving up this moth-eaten "D" like a Christmas goose. Home field means nothing when your team is in the crapper - just ask the Chiefs.....

    Broncos -3, like someone said earlier - "without hesitation"

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    Not only is the Ravens offense scrambling around like a chicken with it's head (coordinator) cut off, but I can also see Peyton carving up this moth-eaten "D" like a Christmas goose. Home field means nothing when your team is in the crapper - just ask the Chiefs.....

    Broncos -3, like someone said earlier - "without hesitation"

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2012 - 3:31 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

        I said 2 years ago, they had to dump Cam Cameron. As a big Ravens fan, we can finally have Flacco able to show his true potential.  I hate going against my Ravens, and especially I hate taking the Broncos playing ANY NFC team. But the offensive transition is not going to materialize instantly in less than a week. And the way that Denver is clicking, although it appears a tight game, Mr. Manning will pull out the cover in this spot.

    DENVER  - 3

    Wow - I actually agree with Vue for once.  I have same perception on this game and also have been saying that Cam is the reason this Ravens team has been so inconsistent on offense past few years.  Not so crazy about betting vs. Ravens at home but I'm sold on this Denver team and love backing Peyton. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

        I said 2 years ago, they had to dump Cam Cameron. As a big Ravens fan, we can finally have Flacco able to show his true potential.  I hate going against my Ravens, and especially I hate taking the Broncos playing ANY NFC team. But the offensive transition is not going to materialize instantly in less than a week. And the way that Denver is clicking, although it appears a tight game, Mr. Manning will pull out the cover in this spot.

    DENVER  - 3

    Wow - I actually agree with Vue for once.  I have same perception on this game and also have been saying that Cam is the reason this Ravens team has been so inconsistent on offense past few years.  Not so crazy about betting vs. Ravens at home but I'm sold on this Denver team and love backing Peyton. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2012 - 8:10 PM ET #31

    [Quote: Originally Posted by joedaddy76]

    Wow - I actually agree with Vue for once.  I have same perception on this game and also have been saying that Cam is the reason this Ravens team has been so inconsistent on offense past few years.  Not so crazy about betting vs. Ravens at home but I'm sold on this Denver team and love backing Peyton. 

    Agree on the Broncos,but......NFC TEAM? Broncos are playing an AFC team, unless I missed something
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by joedaddy76]

    Wow - I actually agree with Vue for once.  I have same perception on this game and also have been saying that Cam is the reason this Ravens team has been so inconsistent on offense past few years.  Not so crazy about betting vs. Ravens at home but I'm sold on this Denver team and love backing Peyton. 

    Agree on the Broncos,but......NFC TEAM? Broncos are playing an AFC team, unless I missed something
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2012 - 11:32 PM ET #32

    I see Denver flying North. Ravens flying South. Betting against Manning is never too wise.
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    I see Denver flying North. Ravens flying South. Betting against Manning is never too wise.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 12:12 AM ET #33

    If Suggs was playing i would go with the ravens. The Broncos loose against good teams. Im staying away.
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    If Suggs was playing i would go with the ravens. The Broncos loose against good teams. Im staying away.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 12:12 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Not only is the Ravens offense scrambling around like a chicken with it's head (coordinator) cut off, but I can also see Peyton carving up this moth-eaten "D" like a Christmas goose. Home field means nothing when your team is in the crapper - just ask the Chiefs.....

    Broncos may win, and may even cover...  But comparing Arrowhead's homefield advantage to a team that hasnt lost at home by more the a FG in over 4 years just not smart... (PS that game they lost by 4)

    Personally I will take Ravens +3,

    more deeperate team vs. team that doesnt need the game

    Broncos are not getting the number 2 seed so they have little to worry about except keeping the old man upright for the playoffs.... Plus who the hell have the broncos beaten on the road anyway

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Not only is the Ravens offense scrambling around like a chicken with it's head (coordinator) cut off, but I can also see Peyton carving up this moth-eaten "D" like a Christmas goose. Home field means nothing when your team is in the crapper - just ask the Chiefs.....

    Broncos may win, and may even cover...  But comparing Arrowhead's homefield advantage to a team that hasnt lost at home by more the a FG in over 4 years just not smart... (PS that game they lost by 4)

    Personally I will take Ravens +3,

    more deeperate team vs. team that doesnt need the game

    Broncos are not getting the number 2 seed so they have little to worry about except keeping the old man upright for the playoffs.... Plus who the hell have the broncos beaten on the road anyway

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 12:55 AM ET #35

    Only amateurs will bet this game. Balt been exposed a bit recently but still a good team and usually very good at home. Why a HD vs Den which has feasted on cupcakes and Peyton's  mere presence inflates their PR by 3 pts at least? Broncos 8 game winning streak only gives more fuel to Bmores case. Ravens need the game more after losing two straight but have injuries and coaching changes going on in mid-season, never good. Serious players don't bet this game but Covers players aren't in that category so you guys go ahead bet your lungs on it 

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    Only amateurs will bet this game. Balt been exposed a bit recently but still a good team and usually very good at home. Why a HD vs Den which has feasted on cupcakes and Peyton's  mere presence inflates their PR by 3 pts at least? Broncos 8 game winning streak only gives more fuel to Bmores case. Ravens need the game more after losing two straight but have injuries and coaching changes going on in mid-season, never good. Serious players don't bet this game but Covers players aren't in that category so you guys go ahead bet your lungs on it 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 1:05 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by Golfsexpoker:

    With the Patriots having to go through the Niners on another prime time game & the Texans remaining 3 games are against teams with winning records, the Broncos have a real good shot of getting the #2 seed & an outside shot of getting the #1. As for the whole who have they beaten cop out... Yes the Broncos lost 3 games against really good treams but that was really early in the season & last year people were saying the exact same thing about the Patriots because they didn't beat a single team that finished with a winning record in the regular season but they still made it to the Super Bowl. Broncos have the edge in every facet of the game Offense, Defense, & Special Teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfsexpoker:

    With the Patriots having to go through the Niners on another prime time game & the Texans remaining 3 games are against teams with winning records, the Broncos have a real good shot of getting the #2 seed & an outside shot of getting the #1. As for the whole who have they beaten cop out... Yes the Broncos lost 3 games against really good treams but that was really early in the season & last year people were saying the exact same thing about the Patriots because they didn't beat a single team that finished with a winning record in the regular season but they still made it to the Super Bowl. Broncos have the edge in every facet of the game Offense, Defense, & Special Teams

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 1:22 AM ET #37

    Baltimore +3 all day long.
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    Baltimore +3 all day long.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 1:42 AM ET #38

    The Ravens WILL NOT lose three straight.  From an inside source(I happen to be acquaintances with Joe Flacco's younger brother) Flacco and Cameron had a largely antagonistic relationship..Look for, yes i'm saying it, Joe FLacco to have a great game tomorrow.  A HUGE statement game for the Baltimore offense here.  Torrey Smith plays out of his mind, as do the Ravens at home generally.  The playoff road will not get any easier for Baltimore as they still have to host the GMEN and play the Bengals week 17.  They get the victory here
    I get that Denver is still playing for a first round bye and homefield throughout but Baltimore NEEDS this game.  Denver can afford to lose this game.  GIMME THE HOME DOG FOR THE LARGE
    Harbaugh will have his team ready. 
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    The Ravens WILL NOT lose three straight.  From an inside source(I happen to be acquaintances with Joe Flacco's younger brother) Flacco and Cameron had a largely antagonistic relationship..Look for, yes i'm saying it, Joe FLacco to have a great game tomorrow.  A HUGE statement game for the Baltimore offense here.  Torrey Smith plays out of his mind, as do the Ravens at home generally.  The playoff road will not get any easier for Baltimore as they still have to host the GMEN and play the Bengals week 17.  They get the victory here
    I get that Denver is still playing for a first round bye and homefield throughout but Baltimore NEEDS this game.  Denver can afford to lose this game.  GIMME THE HOME DOG FOR THE LARGE
    Harbaugh will have his team ready. 
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 3:09 AM ET #39

    Big litmus test game for the broncos as theyve been beating up on garbage teams for a while now. People look at cam camerons firing as a bad thing but i disagree, i watched many a raven game and the playcalling was very chuck knoxish, Never unpredictable, always running on first down with 9 in the box, etc. Im not gonna lie i'd be alot more confident betting the ravens if ray lewis and suggs were playing... they are the heart of that defense, but truth be told suggs has been pretty ineffective this year, he is not even close to being healthy. 

    Denver is clearly the healthier team, and because of that i think the lines actually right. Having said that im not fond of laying points in baltimore, it's one of, if not the biggest home field advantage in football. 

    I look for a very spirited game from the ravens, and ill be on the home team in this one. Gl to all. 


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    Big litmus test game for the broncos as theyve been beating up on garbage teams for a while now. People look at cam camerons firing as a bad thing but i disagree, i watched many a raven game and the playcalling was very chuck knoxish, Never unpredictable, always running on first down with 9 in the box, etc. Im not gonna lie i'd be alot more confident betting the ravens if ray lewis and suggs were playing... they are the heart of that defense, but truth be told suggs has been pretty ineffective this year, he is not even close to being healthy. 

    Denver is clearly the healthier team, and because of that i think the lines actually right. Having said that im not fond of laying points in baltimore, it's one of, if not the biggest home field advantage in football. 

    I look for a very spirited game from the ravens, and ill be on the home team in this one. Gl to all. 


     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 6:09 AM ET #40

    Broncos giving 3pts or less!  I'm ALL OVER the Broncos!!!!  The Ravens are SO overrated it's not even funny.  They WILL lose 3 straight whether this game is played at home, in Denver, or on MARS!  

    Ravens defense SUCKS and the Broncos is top 5 in both offense and defense.  If Denver was giving more than 3, I'd have to consider the Ravens since my team has pushed one and burned me on another with bigger spreads but this small 3 point spread is MONEY!

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    Broncos giving 3pts or less!  I'm ALL OVER the Broncos!!!!  The Ravens are SO overrated it's not even funny.  They WILL lose 3 straight whether this game is played at home, in Denver, or on MARS!  

    Ravens defense SUCKS and the Broncos is top 5 in both offense and defense.  If Denver was giving more than 3, I'd have to consider the Ravens since my team has pushed one and burned me on another with bigger spreads but this small 3 point spread is MONEY!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 6:24 AM ET #41

    Broncos for the large!!!!

    Ravens are the Falcons of the AFC.  Record is inflated, defense is swiss cheese.

    Denver 31 Baltimore 23

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    Broncos for the large!!!!

    Ravens are the Falcons of the AFC.  Record is inflated, defense is swiss cheese.

    Denver 31 Baltimore 23

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 7:46 AM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by BBBsteeeeam:

    Broncos for the large!!!!

    Ravens are the Falcons of the AFC.  Record is inflated, defense is swiss cheese.

    Denver 31 Baltimore 23


    First Ravens would love that Falcons record soo ATL didn't want to make Cam Newton cry really nice that Matty Ice Class Act..

    Second.... This Will be no walk in the park for Denver.  Peyton is great but the Ravens are a good team ppel your acting like there playing the Jets or Jags....... Flaco better then most yaa crappy fantasy QB but great for winning real Nfl games Ray Rice shows up every week guarantee a td or 2 
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBBsteeeeam:

    Broncos for the large!!!!

    Ravens are the Falcons of the AFC.  Record is inflated, defense is swiss cheese.

    Denver 31 Baltimore 23


    First Ravens would love that Falcons record soo ATL didn't want to make Cam Newton cry really nice that Matty Ice Class Act..

    Second.... This Will be no walk in the park for Denver.  Peyton is great but the Ravens are a good team ppel your acting like there playing the Jets or Jags....... Flaco better then most yaa crappy fantasy QB but great for winning real Nfl games Ray Rice shows up every week guarantee a td or 2 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 7:59 AM ET #43

    Will Knowshawn practice squad Moreno come to win or Fumble!!!!! Then theres Boldin an T Smith Ravens D threats Cb Ledarius Webb an Safety Ed Reed they come for the interceptions every game day an Te Pitta has his moments to Ravens play tough against Den Manning could win if he isent looking for #1 WR all day an uses Decker an Tamme doubtful for that I see this one close 21 -24 maybe even OT I wouldent bet $ here good luck look at the bigger picture.
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    Will Knowshawn practice squad Moreno come to win or Fumble!!!!! Then theres Boldin an T Smith Ravens D threats Cb Ledarius Webb an Safety Ed Reed they come for the interceptions every game day an Te Pitta has his moments to Ravens play tough against Den Manning could win if he isent looking for #1 WR all day an uses Decker an Tamme doubtful for that I see this one close 21 -24 maybe even OT I wouldent bet $ here good luck look at the bigger picture.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 10:07 AM ET #44

    Ravens +3 and ML +130

     


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    Ravens +3 and ML +130

     


     
    cowboyzwin
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 11:02 AM ET #45

    Denver has not been playing that well they just been grinding out wins...I think that stops today on the road ..Baltimore will have something to prove I'll take the points good luck
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    Denver has not been playing that well they just been grinding out wins...I think that stops today on the road ..Baltimore will have something to prove I'll take the points good luck
     
    Money756
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 11:39 AM ET #46

    Something to consider here...
    Denver has beaten TWO teams with a winning record, Steelers back in week 1 and the Bungals...that leaves us with...

    San Diego
    New Orleans
    Carolina
    Kansas City
    Oakland


    Not exactly the cream of the crop...Ravens loose as a public favorites the last couple of weeks...and are now getting points at home to team getting close to 60 percent on the ML....I'd buy the hook to be safe....but you may not need it....Ravens are the play

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    Something to consider here...
    Denver has beaten TWO teams with a winning record, Steelers back in week 1 and the Bungals...that leaves us with...

    San Diego
    New Orleans
    Carolina
    Kansas City
    Oakland


    Not exactly the cream of the crop...Ravens loose as a public favorites the last couple of weeks...and are now getting points at home to team getting close to 60 percent on the ML....I'd buy the hook to be safe....but you may not need it....Ravens are the play

     
    W8LIFTER
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 12:46 PM ET #47

    Baltimore Ravens +3 
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    Baltimore Ravens +3 
     
    Topdolla
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 12:46 PM ET #48

    Banged up secondary and Linebackers .. Gimmie the broncos -3  
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    Banged up secondary and Linebackers .. Gimmie the broncos -3  
     
    Xyberz
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 2:32 PM ET #49

    Oh yeah baby!  Baltimore can get anything going on offense except that big fat INT return for a TD!  I'm also taking my Broncos getting +0.5 for the 2nd half.

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    Oh yeah baby!  Baltimore can get anything going on offense except that big fat INT return for a TD!  I'm also taking my Broncos getting +0.5 for the 2nd half.

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2012 - 3:16 PM ET #50

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