Cleveland at Philadelphia (12/15/2008)
Not trying to upset you Tagsrock, at one time back in September you were new, as I am with my first post. Don't make these Threads about me being new... I Change the L-word to "love" this game. I decided to post today, I started posting on NCAA-B with an under pick there Saturday. Good Luck to you Tagsrock, you are the Veteran,
I am the newby
... we are on opposite sides tonight. I stated my reasons for my pick, I look forward to learning more of yours.
I am locked in at 40... we will see. Good Luck....
We learn quick about the L word here....
GL with your pick..
Not trying to upset you Tagsrock, at one time back in September you were new, as I am with my first post. Don't make these Threads about me being new... I Change the L-word to "love" this game. I decided to post today, I started posting on NCAA-B with an under pick there Saturday. Good Luck to you Tagsrock, you are the Veteran,
I am the newby
... we are on opposite sides tonight. I stated my reasons for my pick, I look forward to learning more of yours.
I am locked in at 40... we will see. Good Luck....
We learn quick about the L word here....
GL with your pick..
You see the post above mine...this guy is predicting 28-9...because he needs that to cover. IMO you will see a lot of different sets from Cleveland. They will run the ball, run reverses, direct snap to Cribbs and much more.
Simply put, yes, the Browns can score 9 points in this game off three FG's. Can Philly put up more than 24? I'm not too sure but if I can buy this line up to 17 I am taking it. 70% chance of rain and 15 mph winds forecasted from 9 pm on. Philly wins here but I don't see them covering 17 points. The beat 3 teams this year by 16 or more points... 19 (Seattle Week 9), 16 (San Fran Week 7), 35 (STL Week1). I'll take my chances that the Browns DEF holds Philly to 3 TD's....Good Luck! ![]()
If betting games was as easy as a lot of you make it...you would all be winning each week...but I don't think that's the case but TAKE PHILLY AND THE LOCK! ![]()
I took Tenn -14 last week... That won. All i'm saying is I'd put more on PHI scoring more than 3 td's than cleveland scoring 1 td. And when it comes to football you should never bet on the worse team in a match up. The best way to make money is to find favorites that will cover the spread.
You see the post above mine...this guy is predicting 28-9...because he needs that to cover. IMO you will see a lot of different sets from Cleveland. They will run the ball, run reverses, direct snap to Cribbs and much more.
Simply put, yes, the Browns can score 9 points in this game off three FG's. Can Philly put up more than 24? I'm not too sure but if I can buy this line up to 17 I am taking it. 70% chance of rain and 15 mph winds forecasted from 9 pm on. Philly wins here but I don't see them covering 17 points. The beat 3 teams this year by 16 or more points... 19 (Seattle Week 9), 16 (San Fran Week 7), 35 (STL Week1). I'll take my chances that the Browns DEF holds Philly to 3 TD's....Good Luck! ![]()
If betting games was as easy as a lot of you make it...you would all be winning each week...but I don't think that's the case but TAKE PHILLY AND THE LOCK! ![]()
I took Tenn -14 last week... That won. All i'm saying is I'd put more on PHI scoring more than 3 td's than cleveland scoring 1 td. And when it comes to football you should never bet on the worse team in a match up. The best way to make money is to find favorites that will cover the spread.
Not trying to upset you Tagsrock, at one time back in September you were new, as I am with my first post. Don't make these Threads about me being new... I Change the L-word to "love" this game. I decided to post today, I started posting on NCAA-B with an under pick there Saturday. Good Luck to you Tagsrock, you are the Veteran,
I am the newby
... we are on opposite sides tonight. I stated my reasons for my pick, I look forward to learning more of yours.
I am locked in at 40... we will see. Good Luck....
Not trying to upset you Tagsrock, at one time back in September you were new, as I am with my first post. Don't make these Threads about me being new... I Change the L-word to "love" this game. I decided to post today, I started posting on NCAA-B with an under pick there Saturday. Good Luck to you Tagsrock, you are the Veteran,
I am the newby
... we are on opposite sides tonight. I stated my reasons for my pick, I look forward to learning more of yours.
I am locked in at 40... we will see. Good Luck....
where is brian sipe when you need him.
where is brian sipe when you need him.
O.K. - it's up to 16 - by my own "Over 2 touchdown" rule (of which I've won every game this season so far) I have to take the "Pot" Brownies - by rule - so everybody - bet as you wish, but the Lions covered last Sunday, and so has every "over 2 touchdown" game this entire season - GLTA.....
This one opened as only a 2 td favorite tho, while DET was dogged by 17 from the beginnning. Despite what ppl say DET should have never been dogged by that much in the first place, they aren't the worse team in football right now despite the record.
O.K. - it's up to 16 - by my own "Over 2 touchdown" rule (of which I've won every game this season so far) I have to take the "Pot" Brownies - by rule - so everybody - bet as you wish, but the Lions covered last Sunday, and so has every "over 2 touchdown" game this entire season - GLTA.....
This one opened as only a 2 td favorite tho, while DET was dogged by 17 from the beginnning. Despite what ppl say DET should have never been dogged by that much in the first place, they aren't the worse team in football right now despite the record.
Using stats back to 2004 according to NFL Picker
Cleveland Philadelphia
(grass team) (turf team)
straight up record: 28-49-0 (.363) 47-33-1 (.586)
home record: 17-22-0 (.435) 26-15-0 (.634)
road record: 11-27-0 (.289) 21-18-1 (.537)
grass record: 24-37-0 (.393) 13-10-0 (.565)
turf record: 4-12-0 (.250) 34-23-1 (.594)
road turf record: 4-12-0 (.250) 8-8-1 (.500)
road grass record: 7-15-0 (.318) 13-10-0 (.565)
against the spread: 41-36-0 (.532) 42-38-1 (.524)
home ATS record: 21-18-0 (.538) 20-20-1 (.500)
road ATS record: 20-18-0 (.526) 22-18-0 (.550)
grass ATS record: 34-27-0 (.557) 12-11-0 (.521)
turf ATS record: 7-9-0 (.437) 30-27-1 (.525)
road turf ATS: 7-9-0 (.437) 10-7-0 (.588)
as road fav ATS: 4-1-0 (.800) 11-11-0 (.500)
as road dog ATS: 16-17-0 (.484) 11-7-0 (.611)
as home fav ATS: 10-7-0 (.588) 18-16-1 (.528)
as home dog ATS: 11-11-0 (.500) 2-4-0 (.333)
road grass ATS: 13-9-0 (.590) 12-11-0 (.521)
road pf-pa (t/amv): 670-905 (41/-6.18) 888-862 (43/0.65)
home pf-pa (t/amv): 700-799 (38/-2.53) 982-748 (42/5.7)
grass pf-pa(t/amv): 1062-1279 (38/-3.55)523-506 (44/0.73)
turf pf-pa (t/amv): 308-425 (45/-7.31) 1347-1104 (42/4.18)
pf-pa (totals/amv): 1370-1704 (39/-4.33)1870-1610 (42/3.2)
PHI versus CLE: 1-0-0 (1.000)
PHI versus CLE ATS: 0-1-0 (.000)
Visiting team: Cleveland
Home team: Philadelphia
Favorite: Philadelphia
Spread: 14.0
O/U Line: 38.0
O/U Pick: UNDER (record for this line: 20-14-1 (.585))
ATS Pick: Cleveland (Confidence: 55.56%)
Historical Spread ATS (Road Teams): 4-3-2 (.555)
MultiPick Data: (uses data for lines within .5 point + or - )
O/U MultiPick: UNDER (record for these lines: 69-57-1 (.547))
ATS MultiPick: Cleveland (Confidence: 57.69%)
Historical Spread ATS (Road Teams): 14-10-2 (.576)
Using stats back to 2004 according to NFL Picker
Cleveland Philadelphia
(grass team) (turf team)
straight up record: 28-49-0 (.363) 47-33-1 (.586)
home record: 17-22-0 (.435) 26-15-0 (.634)
road record: 11-27-0 (.289) 21-18-1 (.537)
grass record: 24-37-0 (.393) 13-10-0 (.565)
turf record: 4-12-0 (.250) 34-23-1 (.594)
road turf record: 4-12-0 (.250) 8-8-1 (.500)
road grass record: 7-15-0 (.318) 13-10-0 (.565)
against the spread: 41-36-0 (.532) 42-38-1 (.524)
home ATS record: 21-18-0 (.538) 20-20-1 (.500)
road ATS record: 20-18-0 (.526) 22-18-0 (.550)
grass ATS record: 34-27-0 (.557) 12-11-0 (.521)
turf ATS record: 7-9-0 (.437) 30-27-1 (.525)
road turf ATS: 7-9-0 (.437) 10-7-0 (.588)
as road fav ATS: 4-1-0 (.800) 11-11-0 (.500)
as road dog ATS: 16-17-0 (.484) 11-7-0 (.611)
as home fav ATS: 10-7-0 (.588) 18-16-1 (.528)
as home dog ATS: 11-11-0 (.500) 2-4-0 (.333)
road grass ATS: 13-9-0 (.590) 12-11-0 (.521)
road pf-pa (t/amv): 670-905 (41/-6.18) 888-862 (43/0.65)
home pf-pa (t/amv): 700-799 (38/-2.53) 982-748 (42/5.7)
grass pf-pa(t/amv): 1062-1279 (38/-3.55)523-506 (44/0.73)
turf pf-pa (t/amv): 308-425 (45/-7.31) 1347-1104 (42/4.18)
pf-pa (totals/amv): 1370-1704 (39/-4.33)1870-1610 (42/3.2)
PHI versus CLE: 1-0-0 (1.000)
PHI versus CLE ATS: 0-1-0 (.000)
Visiting team: Cleveland
Home team: Philadelphia
Favorite: Philadelphia
Spread: 14.0
O/U Line: 38.0
O/U Pick: UNDER (record for this line: 20-14-1 (.585))
ATS Pick: Cleveland (Confidence: 55.56%)
Historical Spread ATS (Road Teams): 4-3-2 (.555)
MultiPick Data: (uses data for lines within .5 point + or - )
O/U MultiPick: UNDER (record for these lines: 69-57-1 (.547))
ATS MultiPick: Cleveland (Confidence: 57.69%)
Historical Spread ATS (Road Teams): 14-10-2 (.576)
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