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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 2:25 AM ET #26

    believe it or not .....................OVER 39.5
     
     
    cleveland special teams set up points and cleveland should get a sack on mcnabb to get them to 16 points for the game.
     
    31-16 philly
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    believe it or not .....................OVER 39.5
     
     
    cleveland special teams set up points and cleveland should get a sack on mcnabb to get them to 16 points for the game.
     
    31-16 philly
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 3:11 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by SNIPER702:

    Possible inclimate weather ?????? l LIKE THE UNDER
    Browns will be lucky to score, Philly sucks.


    Suppose to get nice weather here. High of 60 last time i checked. Finally good weather here in philly.. might have few showers but im sure its going to be very few plus its going to be the warmest day of the week.. nice weather for football..but can also get a lil sloppy..going to be an interesting game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNIPER702:

    Possible inclimate weather ?????? l LIKE THE UNDER
    Browns will be lucky to score, Philly sucks.


    Suppose to get nice weather here. High of 60 last time i checked. Finally good weather here in philly.. might have few showers but im sure its going to be very few plus its going to be the warmest day of the week.. nice weather for football..but can also get a lil sloppy..going to be an interesting game.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 5:53 AM ET #28

    Few showers that will lead the whole week into a cloudy and rainy week...
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    Few showers that will lead the whole week into a cloudy and rainy week...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 8:52 AM ET #29

    I like Phili 24-6
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    I like Phili 24-6
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 9:39 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Radiators:

     I am going to take Philly in this one big.  Lights on DJ, Mcnab, westbrook is awsome, the Philly D will score on Dorsey and Cleveland.
    Cleveland is not good, they didnot expect this matchup to be this way at the begining of the year when they schedualed it.  Philly is tough and loud at home.  J lewis sucks big time!!!, no way he runs for 100. B edwards has been unproductive as is there whole offense. Winslow? out? not doing much. just take cleveland  and take it early than late

    I think I may just take Cleveland because I don't believe you are educated when it comes to football. Does Cleveland have a losing record? Yes. Has Cleveland played like crap? Yes. Has Cleveland hung in there all year? Yes.

    Go back and look at the games Cleveland has played all year. This team could easily be 9-5 right now. Professional football isn't about blow outs...what makes a team good is when they win the close games. Cleveland has been in a number of close games starting in week 2 against Pittsburgh..probably the best team in the AFC. The lost by 4 and not because their offense played well but because their DEF did.

    I'm will playing against this board and the public. Cleveland + 17 (currently -130) I will wait till this evening. I believe the line will be 17 prior to the game. Good Luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radiators:

     I am going to take Philly in this one big.  Lights on DJ, Mcnab, westbrook is awsome, the Philly D will score on Dorsey and Cleveland.
    Cleveland is not good, they didnot expect this matchup to be this way at the begining of the year when they schedualed it.  Philly is tough and loud at home.  J lewis sucks big time!!!, no way he runs for 100. B edwards has been unproductive as is there whole offense. Winslow? out? not doing much. just take cleveland  and take it early than late

    I think I may just take Cleveland because I don't believe you are educated when it comes to football. Does Cleveland have a losing record? Yes. Has Cleveland played like crap? Yes. Has Cleveland hung in there all year? Yes.

    Go back and look at the games Cleveland has played all year. This team could easily be 9-5 right now. Professional football isn't about blow outs...what makes a team good is when they win the close games. Cleveland has been in a number of close games starting in week 2 against Pittsburgh..probably the best team in the AFC. The lost by 4 and not because their offense played well but because their DEF did.

    I'm will playing against this board and the public. Cleveland + 17 (currently -130) I will wait till this evening. I believe the line will be 17 prior to the game. Good Luck!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 9:45 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by unforgettable:

    eagles look like a solid pick this week, just think vegas is trying to get people to not put their money on the birds by setting a line so high, this is the playoffs for the eagles expect them to come out firing offense n defense..i could easily see an eagles blow out, westbrook is finally healty n this d will come to play monday night

    Public is all over Philly. The line opened at 14 and is now at 16...this line movement is because the bettng public is all over Philly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unforgettable:

    eagles look like a solid pick this week, just think vegas is trying to get people to not put their money on the birds by setting a line so high, this is the playoffs for the eagles expect them to come out firing offense n defense..i could easily see an eagles blow out, westbrook is finally healty n this d will come to play monday night

    Public is all over Philly. The line opened at 14 and is now at 16...this line movement is because the bettng public is all over Philly.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 11:26 AM ET #32

    Where do you see -16?
     
    Line has been stuck on 14 all week, has it not?
     
    Looks too easy to take the Iggles and/or the over.
    No play for me.
     
    Every now and then the Browns show up and McNabb coughs up a furball.
     
    No thanks.
     
    Even Crennel knows to focus solely on Westbrook which means he probably won't??????
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    Where do you see -16?
     
    Line has been stuck on 14 all week, has it not?
     
    Looks too easy to take the Iggles and/or the over.
    No play for me.
     
    Every now and then the Browns show up and McNabb coughs up a furball.
     
    No thanks.
     
    Even Crennel knows to focus solely on Westbrook which means he probably won't??????
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 11:29 AM ET #33

    The only play in this game tonight is the under.....eagles will take the early lead then run the ball.....this is the MN lock of the decade with the under.....easy money.......This is the best Christmas gift that Vegas has ever given out....Merry Christmas to all and remember to bet big.......
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    The only play in this game tonight is the under.....eagles will take the early lead then run the ball.....this is the MN lock of the decade with the under.....easy money.......This is the best Christmas gift that Vegas has ever given out....Merry Christmas to all and remember to bet big.......
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 11:33 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by bvent:

    Public is all over Philly. The line opened at 14 and is now at 16...this line movement is because the bettng public is all over Philly.

     

    I'm going to make a small play on the Browns. Philly should be able to beat them but not by 2 TD's. GL

    Havin an awsome week so far.

    New England - W (Big Play)
    Seattle - W
    Chicago - Push
    Houston - W
    Atlanta - Tampa Bay - Over (Small Play) - L

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvent:

    Public is all over Philly. The line opened at 14 and is now at 16...this line movement is because the bettng public is all over Philly.

     

    I'm going to make a small play on the Browns. Philly should be able to beat them but not by 2 TD's. GL

    Havin an awsome week so far.

    New England - W (Big Play)
    Seattle - W
    Chicago - Push
    Houston - W
    Atlanta - Tampa Bay - Over (Small Play) - L

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 11:53 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by samfelix:

    Where do you see -16?
     
    Line has been stuck on 14 all week, has it not?
     
    Looks too easy to take the Iggles and/or the over.
    No play for me.
     
    Every now and then the Browns show up and McNabb coughs up a furball.
     
    No thanks.
     
    Even Crennel knows to focus solely on Westbrook which means he probably won't??????

    BetEd...has the line a -16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samfelix:

    Where do you see -16?
     
    Line has been stuck on 14 all week, has it not?
     
    Looks too easy to take the Iggles and/or the over.
    No play for me.
     
    Every now and then the Browns show up and McNabb coughs up a furball.
     
    No thanks.
     
    Even Crennel knows to focus solely on Westbrook which means he probably won't??????

    BetEd...has the line a -16.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 12:10 PM ET #36

    my thoughts,westbrook good for at least 2 tds and McNabb at least 2 tds. defense will smother cles' offense, looking for at least 2 or more turnovers. if cle continues their trend of kicking fgs they might score 9 pts more likley 6 pts. figure in a random td, thanks to philly d/special teams. i'm thinking philly/over parlay here. 
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    my thoughts,westbrook good for at least 2 tds and McNabb at least 2 tds. defense will smother cles' offense, looking for at least 2 or more turnovers. if cle continues their trend of kicking fgs they might score 9 pts more likley 6 pts. figure in a random td, thanks to philly d/special teams. i'm thinking philly/over parlay here. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 12:15 PM ET #37

    If they tied the Bengals - Can they tie the Browns??
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    If they tied the Bengals - Can they tie the Browns??
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 12:18 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by azeleznik:

    If they tied the Bengals - Can they tie the Browns??

    The played the Bengals on the road. This is a home game on MNF for Philly. I still like the Browns +17, buying a point. I see a final socre somewhere around 24-9 or 27-13. This won't be as easy has everyone thinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azeleznik:

    If they tied the Bengals - Can they tie the Browns??

    The played the Bengals on the road. This is a home game on MNF for Philly. I still like the Browns +17, buying a point. I see a final socre somewhere around 24-9 or 27-13. This won't be as easy has everyone thinks.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 12:37 PM ET #39

    During the last 2 games, Andy Reid focused a lot more on the run game, which he might do again tonight since they got 2 wins. 

    They were able to hold 2 of the top offenses, Giants to 14 points and Cardinals to 20 points in the last 2 games. 

    I don't know how the Browns will score, with Dorsey making his 2nd start, FGs might be the only score in the game for them.

    I took the Titans last week against them at -14, and Eagles, with a more productive offense should also cover the spread, especially with home field advantage. 

    Taking the Eagles, small play on the over.
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    During the last 2 games, Andy Reid focused a lot more on the run game, which he might do again tonight since they got 2 wins. 

    They were able to hold 2 of the top offenses, Giants to 14 points and Cardinals to 20 points in the last 2 games. 

    I don't know how the Browns will score, with Dorsey making his 2nd start, FGs might be the only score in the game for them.

    I took the Titans last week against them at -14, and Eagles, with a more productive offense should also cover the spread, especially with home field advantage. 

    Taking the Eagles, small play on the over.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 12:53 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by gypsyangler:

    The only play in this game tonight is the under.....eagles will take the early lead then run the ball.....this is the MN lock of the decade with the under.....easy money.......This is the best Christmas gift that Vegas has ever given out....Merry Christmas to all and remember to bet big.......

    thanks for the play goofball

    under is the lock of the year.  i love people like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsyangler:

    The only play in this game tonight is the under.....eagles will take the early lead then run the ball.....this is the MN lock of the decade with the under.....easy money.......This is the best Christmas gift that Vegas has ever given out....Merry Christmas to all and remember to bet big.......

    thanks for the play goofball

    under is the lock of the year.  i love people like you.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 12:58 PM ET #41

    even better, an under play is the lock of the decade. be realistic how can any under be a lock with the number of different things that can lead to points.
     
    pick clev and the over.
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    even better, an under play is the lock of the decade. be realistic how can any under be a lock with the number of different things that can lead to points.
     
    pick clev and the over.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 1:07 PM ET #42

    PHILLY IZ HOT....THE BROWNIES WENT TO THE SCRAP HEAP FOR A QB....IN PHILLY....THE BROWNIES WILL BE LUCKY TO CROSS  MIDFIELD...PHILLY NEEDS THE WIN.....
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    PHILLY IZ HOT....THE BROWNIES WENT TO THE SCRAP HEAP FOR A QB....IN PHILLY....THE BROWNIES WILL BE LUCKY TO CROSS  MIDFIELD...PHILLY NEEDS THE WIN.....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 1:10 PM ET #43

    Like under here! Not sure Browns can put up more than 10. If Reid has any sense, he will not give Westbrook 39 touches tonight. He should get ahead by a few touches and put another back in. Westbrook playing with a sore knee and Washington and Dallas left to beat to make the play-offs.
     
    Even though I do not like under bet on Monday night.... hopefully Reid will rest Westbrook early.
     
    Uner it is.
     
     
    Eagles 24-6
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    Like under here! Not sure Browns can put up more than 10. If Reid has any sense, he will not give Westbrook 39 touches tonight. He should get ahead by a few touches and put another back in. Westbrook playing with a sore knee and Washington and Dallas left to beat to make the play-offs.
     
    Even though I do not like under bet on Monday night.... hopefully Reid will rest Westbrook early.
     
    Uner it is.
     
     
    Eagles 24-6
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 1:14 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by bvent:

    Public is all over Philly. The line opened at 14 and is now at 16...this line movement is because the bettng public is all over Philly.

    There is a reason the public is all over PHI. PHI has finally started to run the ball, which gets rid of the one dimensional offense that teams had targeted. PHI is a different team now. CLE hasn't scored a touchdown in 3 weeks, so how do you expect them to cover anything? This line could jump to 21 and you would still have to wonder y to take CLE. I'll spell this out for you:

    In the Cincy tie

    Donovan McNabb 28/58 339 yds 1td 3int

    Brian Westbrook 14 car 60 yds

    In the BAL destruction

    D Nab + K Colb 18/41 0td 4ints

    Westbrook 14 car 39 yds

    V Ari

    Westbrook 22 car 110 yds

    D Nab 27/39 260 yds 4td 0int

    V NYG

    Westbrook 33 car 133 yds

    D Nab 19/30 191 yds 1 td 0 int.

    Reid has finally learned to call run plays. Putting $ on CLE is risky business.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvent:

    Public is all over Philly. The line opened at 14 and is now at 16...this line movement is because the bettng public is all over Philly.

    There is a reason the public is all over PHI. PHI has finally started to run the ball, which gets rid of the one dimensional offense that teams had targeted. PHI is a different team now. CLE hasn't scored a touchdown in 3 weeks, so how do you expect them to cover anything? This line could jump to 21 and you would still have to wonder y to take CLE. I'll spell this out for you:

    In the Cincy tie

    Donovan McNabb 28/58 339 yds 1td 3int

    Brian Westbrook 14 car 60 yds

    In the BAL destruction

    D Nab + K Colb 18/41 0td 4ints

    Westbrook 14 car 39 yds

    V Ari

    Westbrook 22 car 110 yds

    D Nab 27/39 260 yds 4td 0int

    V NYG

    Westbrook 33 car 133 yds

    D Nab 19/30 191 yds 1 td 0 int.

    Reid has finally learned to call run plays. Putting $ on CLE is risky business.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 1:17 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by gypsyangler:

    The only play in this game tonight is the under.....eagles will take the early lead then run the ball.....this is the MN lock of the decade with the under.....easy money.......This is the best Christmas gift that Vegas has ever given out....Merry Christmas to all and remember to bet big.......

    I think we all can agree, that there is no such thing as a LOCK in this crazy game we play call gambling..... Liking the under myself, but may take the over since someone used the L-word...

    Sigh....

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsyangler:

    The only play in this game tonight is the under.....eagles will take the early lead then run the ball.....this is the MN lock of the decade with the under.....easy money.......This is the best Christmas gift that Vegas has ever given out....Merry Christmas to all and remember to bet big.......

    I think we all can agree, that there is no such thing as a LOCK in this crazy game we play call gambling..... Liking the under myself, but may take the over since someone used the L-word...

    Sigh....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 1:28 PM ET #46

    Here is your Moneymaker
     
    Philly Q1 Over 3.5
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    Here is your Moneymaker
     
    Philly Q1 Over 3.5
     
    robby55
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 1:29 PM ET #47

    agreed, this under is about as good as last nights

    takin the under and hope Phily does not cover it themselves

    Quote Originally Posted by gypsyangler:

    The only play in this game tonight is the under.....eagles will take the early lead then run the ball.....this is the MN lock of the decade with the under.....easy money.......This is the best Christmas gift that Vegas has ever given out....Merry Christmas to all and remember to bet big.......
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    agreed, this under is about as good as last nights

    takin the under and hope Phily does not cover it themselves

    Quote Originally Posted by gypsyangler:

    The only play in this game tonight is the under.....eagles will take the early lead then run the ball.....this is the MN lock of the decade with the under.....easy money.......This is the best Christmas gift that Vegas has ever given out....Merry Christmas to all and remember to bet big.......
     
    dddevin69
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 1:32 PM ET #48

    both of these teams suck.  That's all I know.  I would lean towards the Over on this one.  Depending on philly to put up alot of points on anyone is risky.  and Philly fans talking playoffs is laugable at best.  When Is philly going to cut ties with Reid or Mccnabb (or bth) is my question......
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    both of these teams suck.  That's all I know.  I would lean towards the Over on this one.  Depending on philly to put up alot of points on anyone is risky.  and Philly fans talking playoffs is laugable at best.  When Is philly going to cut ties with Reid or Mccnabb (or bth) is my question......
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 1:34 PM ET #49

    Double digit roaddogs have done well this year 7-3, but have gone 1-3 in Dec. Hmmm. A teaser with the under and Cleve might be the way. Take it to under 46 and Cleve +20 or maybe even more by game time. Can both teams score over 20 a piece? Doesnt seem likely.Also how psyched can Philly be they are two games behing the likely wild card. Their playoff homes have to be slim
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    Double digit roaddogs have done well this year 7-3, but have gone 1-3 in Dec. Hmmm. A teaser with the under and Cleve might be the way. Take it to under 46 and Cleve +20 or maybe even more by game time. Can both teams score over 20 a piece? Doesnt seem likely.Also how psyched can Philly be they are two games behing the likely wild card. Their playoff homes have to be slim
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 1:36 PM ET #50

    MNF for primetime tv.....................Reid / Mc Nabb won't disappoint. Eagles by 17
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    MNF for primetime tv.....................Reid / Mc Nabb won't disappoint. Eagles by 17
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