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    Cleveland at Philadelphia (12/15/2008)

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    dddevin69
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 1:40 PM ET #51

    even better, an under play is the lock of the decade. be realistic how can any under be a lock with the number of different things that can lead to points.
     
    pick clev and the over.
     
     
     
     
     
    makes sense to me.  I'm allergic to brownies though...unless they have a certain leafy vegetable in them so that's why I can never bet on Cleveland in general.  but I can't disagree at all. 
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    even better, an under play is the lock of the decade. be realistic how can any under be a lock with the number of different things that can lead to points.
     
    pick clev and the over.
     
     
     
     
     
    makes sense to me.  I'm allergic to brownies though...unless they have a certain leafy vegetable in them so that's why I can never bet on Cleveland in general.  but I can't disagree at all. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 1:48 PM ET #52

    go with philly 1st half. this is the NFL you'll never know.
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    go with philly 1st half. this is the NFL you'll never know.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 1:52 PM ET #53

    Devin.....I have been gambling for 17 years and this under bet is the only sure bet they I will have made in the past 17 years...10 Dimes on this game for me......Just heard that both teams will not combine for more than 30 passing attempts all night....Be smart and follow the gypsy on this one all the way to the bank....

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    Devin.....I have been gambling for 17 years and this under bet is the only sure bet they I will have made in the past 17 years...10 Dimes on this game for me......Just heard that both teams will not combine for more than 30 passing attempts all night....Be smart and follow the gypsy on this one all the way to the bank....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 1:58 PM ET #54

    https://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/USPA1276?begHour=18&begDay=350 

     

    UNDER UNDER UNDER......EASY MONEY......

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    https://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/USPA1276?begHour=18&begDay=350 

     

    UNDER UNDER UNDER......EASY MONEY......

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 2:00 PM ET #55

    hmm.... High powered offense at home on monday night football
     
    against a team that can score 14 just on special teams with Josh Cribbs.... but probably can't put up any more than that....
     
    I'll take the OVER...
     
     
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    hmm.... High powered offense at home on monday night football
     
    against a team that can score 14 just on special teams with Josh Cribbs.... but probably can't put up any more than that....
     
    I'll take the OVER...
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 2:01 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by gypsyangler:

    https://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/USPA1276?begHour=18&begDay=350 

     

    UNDER UNDER UNDER......EASY MONEY......

    57 degrees and few showers..... makes me happier that I'm on the OVER... thanks for the info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsyangler:

    https://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/USPA1276?begHour=18&begDay=350 

     

    UNDER UNDER UNDER......EASY MONEY......

    57 degrees and few showers..... makes me happier that I'm on the OVER... thanks for the info!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 2:04 PM ET #57

    Books are begging people to take the dogs by making the spread high. Philly covers for sure...Luquid

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    Books are begging people to take the dogs by making the spread high. Philly covers for sure...Luquid

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 2:07 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by DrDogs:

    Double digit roaddogs have done well this year 7-3, but have gone 1-3 in Dec. Hmmm. A teaser with the under and Cleve might be the way. Take it to under 46 and Cleve +20 or maybe even more by game time. Can both teams score over 20 a piece? Doesnt seem likely.Also how psyched can Philly be they are two games behing the likely wild card. Their playoff homes have to be slim

    You'll just be throwing your money away betting on CLE, that should be a last resort in this game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDogs:

    Double digit roaddogs have done well this year 7-3, but have gone 1-3 in Dec. Hmmm. A teaser with the under and Cleve might be the way. Take it to under 46 and Cleve +20 or maybe even more by game time. Can both teams score over 20 a piece? Doesnt seem likely.Also how psyched can Philly be they are two games behing the likely wild card. Their playoff homes have to be slim

    You'll just be throwing your money away betting on CLE, that should be a last resort in this game...

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 2:09 PM ET #59

    I live 10 minutes from philly.  its gorgeous out right now.  I like the over and am leaning towards the browns.  That's a lot of points and the eagles tend to blow it against teams they should win against
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    I live 10 minutes from philly.  its gorgeous out right now.  I like the over and am leaning towards the browns.  That's a lot of points and the eagles tend to blow it against teams they should win against
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 2:19 PM ET #60

    The underdog has to cover this monday. when is the last time the underdog covered on a monday?
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    The underdog has to cover this monday. when is the last time the underdog covered on a monday?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 2:26 PM ET #61

    Clevand has played well on Monday night and there Road record is better than there home record, not saying much. Oh god 3rd string quarterback and a horrible defense,
     
     
    PHI 28-9
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    Clevand has played well on Monday night and there Road record is better than there home record, not saying much. Oh god 3rd string quarterback and a horrible defense,
     
     
    PHI 28-9
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 2:39 PM ET #62

    gypsy, you have now put yourself in a lose-lose situation my far-fetched friend - as far as on this site ... you may win your 10 dimes - you may not ... regardless, no one is going tail someone that has under 10 posts, joined us less than a month ago, and last but not least, uses the "L" word ... here's the worst part tho - if you lose, you are going to disappear so quickly on here, whether it be because of you or because of how many people tear you apart ... i can't believe i'm wasting my fingers and thoughts on this post, but i hate seeing posts like yours ... and so do a lot of other people ... posts like yours taint the fun in gambling/handicapping ...
     
    so with that, let's pretend, for now, that you didn't use all your "handicapping pro lingo" and just find out what your 10 dimes is resting on ... there are plenty of books out there and the lines on tonight's MNF matchup are moving swiftly ... you say take the under - i say what's your number?  my book has it at 40 right now - where is yours?  what's your moneymaking number tonight?
     
    i gotta run and get some Christmas presents, but please post your number so everyone knows where the "lock of the decade" stands ... i'll be back on later to check out the feedback ...
     
    i've been moderate-to-poor in MNF picks in the last 2 seasons so i like to tease a lot more now ... teasing totals in stupid, but hey, i never even said i was smart ... we all know what Philly and Cleveland are capable of - we just go with our best judgement and choose which side we are on by putting our gut to the test ... i'm just using my weathered knowledge, trying to make a , and have some fun in doing so ...
     
    Prediction: Browns 17, Eagles 30
     
    My 7pt teaser lean: Eagles -8.5/over33
     
    best of  gypsy (and to the rest of you as well - there's gotta be better value out there tonight haha)
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    gypsy, you have now put yourself in a lose-lose situation my far-fetched friend - as far as on this site ... you may win your 10 dimes - you may not ... regardless, no one is going tail someone that has under 10 posts, joined us less than a month ago, and last but not least, uses the "L" word ... here's the worst part tho - if you lose, you are going to disappear so quickly on here, whether it be because of you or because of how many people tear you apart ... i can't believe i'm wasting my fingers and thoughts on this post, but i hate seeing posts like yours ... and so do a lot of other people ... posts like yours taint the fun in gambling/handicapping ...
     
    so with that, let's pretend, for now, that you didn't use all your "handicapping pro lingo" and just find out what your 10 dimes is resting on ... there are plenty of books out there and the lines on tonight's MNF matchup are moving swiftly ... you say take the under - i say what's your number?  my book has it at 40 right now - where is yours?  what's your moneymaking number tonight?
     
    i gotta run and get some Christmas presents, but please post your number so everyone knows where the "lock of the decade" stands ... i'll be back on later to check out the feedback ...
     
    i've been moderate-to-poor in MNF picks in the last 2 seasons so i like to tease a lot more now ... teasing totals in stupid, but hey, i never even said i was smart ... we all know what Philly and Cleveland are capable of - we just go with our best judgement and choose which side we are on by putting our gut to the test ... i'm just using my weathered knowledge, trying to make a , and have some fun in doing so ...
     
    Prediction: Browns 17, Eagles 30
     
    My 7pt teaser lean: Eagles -8.5/over33
     
    best of  gypsy (and to the rest of you as well - there's gotta be better value out there tonight haha)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 2:41 PM ET #63

    M.N.F=Over?  Usually I would say so, could 2nite be diff. Philly could put up 40+ themselves. Thats what happens with bottomless possessions. I'd rather stay the course then hope it ends. O'er,O'er O,'er . GL 2 all & 2 all a good M.N.F
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    M.N.F=Over?  Usually I would say so, could 2nite be diff. Philly could put up 40+ themselves. Thats what happens with bottomless possessions. I'd rather stay the course then hope it ends. O'er,O'er O,'er . GL 2 all & 2 all a good M.N.F
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 2:48 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by matting6:

    There is a reason the public is all over PHI. PHI has finally started to run the ball, which gets rid of the one dimensional offense that teams had targeted. PHI is a different team now. CLE hasn't scored a touchdown in 3 weeks, so how do you expect them to cover anything? This line could jump to 21 and you would still have to wonder y to take CLE. I'll spell this out for you:

    In the Cincy tie

    Donovan McNabb 28/58 339 yds 1td 3int

    Brian Westbrook 14 car 60 yds

    In the BAL destruction

    D Nab + K Colb 18/41 0td 4ints

    Westbrook 14 car 39 yds

    V Ari

    Westbrook 22 car 110 yds

    D Nab 27/39 260 yds 4td 0int

    V NYG

    Westbrook 33 car 133 yds

    D Nab 19/30 191 yds 1 td 0 int.

    Reid has finally learned to call run plays. Putting $ on CLE is risky business.

     

    You see the post above mine...this guy is predicting 28-9...because he needs that to cover. IMO you will see a lot of different sets from Cleveland. They will run the ball, run reverses, direct snap to Cribbs and much more.

    Simply put, yes, the Browns can score 9 points in this game off three FG's. Can Philly put up more than 24? I'm not too sure but if I can buy this line up to 17 I am taking it. 70% chance of rain and 15 mph winds forecasted from 9 pm on. Philly wins here but I don't see them covering 17 points. The beat 3 teams this year by 16 or more points... 19 (Seattle Week 9), 16 (San Fran Week 7),  35 (STL Week1). I'll take my chances that the Browns DEF holds Philly to 3 TD's....Good Luck!

    If betting games was as easy as a lot of you make it...you would all be winning each week...but I don't think that's the case but TAKE PHILLY AND THE LOCK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by matting6:

    There is a reason the public is all over PHI. PHI has finally started to run the ball, which gets rid of the one dimensional offense that teams had targeted. PHI is a different team now. CLE hasn't scored a touchdown in 3 weeks, so how do you expect them to cover anything? This line could jump to 21 and you would still have to wonder y to take CLE. I'll spell this out for you:

    In the Cincy tie

    Donovan McNabb 28/58 339 yds 1td 3int

    Brian Westbrook 14 car 60 yds

    In the BAL destruction

    D Nab + K Colb 18/41 0td 4ints

    Westbrook 14 car 39 yds

    V Ari

    Westbrook 22 car 110 yds

    D Nab 27/39 260 yds 4td 0int

    V NYG

    Westbrook 33 car 133 yds

    D Nab 19/30 191 yds 1 td 0 int.

    Reid has finally learned to call run plays. Putting $ on CLE is risky business.

     

    You see the post above mine...this guy is predicting 28-9...because he needs that to cover. IMO you will see a lot of different sets from Cleveland. They will run the ball, run reverses, direct snap to Cribbs and much more.

    Simply put, yes, the Browns can score 9 points in this game off three FG's. Can Philly put up more than 24? I'm not too sure but if I can buy this line up to 17 I am taking it. 70% chance of rain and 15 mph winds forecasted from 9 pm on. Philly wins here but I don't see them covering 17 points. The beat 3 teams this year by 16 or more points... 19 (Seattle Week 9), 16 (San Fran Week 7),  35 (STL Week1). I'll take my chances that the Browns DEF holds Philly to 3 TD's....Good Luck!

    If betting games was as easy as a lot of you make it...you would all be winning each week...but I don't think that's the case but TAKE PHILLY AND THE LOCK!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 2:52 PM ET #65

    i have no opinion on this game - if i make a small play..perhaps just on the over to follow the mnf trend.  plus, the weather is really warm here on the east coast today (60's)
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    i have no opinion on this game - if i make a small play..perhaps just on the over to follow the mnf trend.  plus, the weather is really warm here on the east coast today (60's)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 2:52 PM ET #66

    PHILLY AND THE OVER
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    PHILLY AND THE OVER
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 2:54 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    Here is your Moneymaker
     
    Philly Q1 Over 3.5

    Philly - 3.5 first quarter  ?  If so  

    Unless where do you get a TT for quarters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    Here is your Moneymaker
     
    Philly Q1 Over 3.5

    Philly - 3.5 first quarter  ?  If so  

    Unless where do you get a TT for quarters?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 2:59 PM ET #68

    Put the farm on it, Brownies for another MNF cover:

    BROWNIES +14.5

    GL ALL
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    Put the farm on it, Brownies for another MNF cover:

    BROWNIES +14.5

    GL ALL
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 3:01 PM ET #69

    1. Browns Trends to consider
    2. Under is 7-1 in Browns last 8 games in December.
    3. Under is 6-1 in Browns last 7 games after allowing more than 150 yards rushing in their previous game.
    4. Under is 6-2 in Browns last 8 games after scoring less than 15 points in their previous game.
    5. UNDER is 13-6 in Browns last 19 games overall (Bad football Team)
    6. Under is 6-2 in Browns last 8 games following a ATS loss.
    7. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TREND WHEN CAPPING NFL HEADING INTO PLAYOFF’s
    8. Eagles  Under is 4-1 in last 5 home games vs. a team with a losing road record.
    9. Power Rankings :

      Eagles: 7th  Dominating performance for the Eagles. Held the Giants to just 14 first downs and 211 total yards.

       

      Browns: 26th Just 12 first downs and 178 total yards under third-string QB

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    1. Browns Trends to consider
    2. Under is 7-1 in Browns last 8 games in December.
    3. Under is 6-1 in Browns last 7 games after allowing more than 150 yards rushing in their previous game.
    4. Under is 6-2 in Browns last 8 games after scoring less than 15 points in their previous game.
    5. UNDER is 13-6 in Browns last 19 games overall (Bad football Team)
    6. Under is 6-2 in Browns last 8 games following a ATS loss.
    7. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TREND WHEN CAPPING NFL HEADING INTO PLAYOFF’s
    8. Eagles  Under is 4-1 in last 5 home games vs. a team with a losing road record.
    9. Power Rankings :

      Eagles: 7th  Dominating performance for the Eagles. Held the Giants to just 14 first downs and 211 total yards.

       

      Browns: 26th Just 12 first downs and 178 total yards under third-string QB

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 3:02 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by kalind:

    believe it or not .....................OVER 39.5
     
     
    cleveland special teams set up points and cleveland should get a sack on mcnabb to get them to 16 points for the game.
     
    31-16 philly


    Does this make any sense?   How will a 1 sack help lead to 16 points?  With that theory, the Cowboys should have scored about 145 last night....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalind:

    believe it or not .....................OVER 39.5
     
     
    cleveland special teams set up points and cleveland should get a sack on mcnabb to get them to 16 points for the game.
     
    31-16 philly


    Does this make any sense?   How will a 1 sack help lead to 16 points?  With that theory, the Cowboys should have scored about 145 last night....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 3:03 PM ET #71

    BROWNS Offense Efficiency:

    Total Yards : RANK 29th

    Total Passing: RANK 29th

    Rush Yds: 24th

    Points Scored: 28th

     

    Eagles Defense Efficiency:

    Total Yards : RANK 3rd

    Total Passing: RANK 4th

    Rush Yds: 7th

    Points Scored: 11th

     

    All LEANS FAVOR THE UNDER , Add the Weather and a 3rd stringer who should be at best watching this game, not playing in it.    

     

    UNDER (10 units) @ 40 currently on BETED  I love this play.   

    Good Luck Classanski.... These are a the supporting reasons why I value this so high.... not to mention a team that has lost its coach and two QB's.  ...With Weather.

     

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    BROWNS Offense Efficiency:

    Total Yards : RANK 29th

    Total Passing: RANK 29th

    Rush Yds: 24th

    Points Scored: 28th

     

    Eagles Defense Efficiency:

    Total Yards : RANK 3rd

    Total Passing: RANK 4th

    Rush Yds: 7th

    Points Scored: 11th

     

    All LEANS FAVOR THE UNDER , Add the Weather and a 3rd stringer who should be at best watching this game, not playing in it.    

     

    UNDER (10 units) @ 40 currently on BETED  I love this play.   

    Good Luck Classanski.... These are a the supporting reasons why I value this so high.... not to mention a team that has lost its coach and two QB's.  ...With Weather.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 3:07 PM ET #72

    teasing the browns and the under...real small..i dont like this game at all
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    teasing the browns and the under...real small..i dont like this game at all
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 3:13 PM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by SNIPER702:

    Possible inclimate weather ?????? l LIKE THE UNDER
    Browns will be lucky to score, Philly sucks.

    Your Doo Doo Browns stink. Why you gotta hate?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNIPER702:

    Possible inclimate weather ?????? l LIKE THE UNDER
    Browns will be lucky to score, Philly sucks.

    Your Doo Doo Browns stink. Why you gotta hate?

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 3:16 PM ET #74

    Philly   -3  first quarter   -135
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    Philly   -3  first quarter   -135
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 3:17 PM ET #75

    Man the spread now for the game is 16 39.5 already it a high spread for what i think all philly need is a win here doesnt have to cover and even Indi cant cover Detroit with 17 how can Philly cover cleveland 16 rite people.
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    Man the spread now for the game is 16 39.5 already it a high spread for what i think all philly need is a win here doesnt have to cover and even Indi cant cover Detroit with 17 how can Philly cover cleveland 16 rite people.
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