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    Baltimore at Pittsburgh (01/18/2009)

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    vegasguy42
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2009 - 6:00 PM ET #126

    +6  +5  +4. Just remember if it looks to good to be true, go the other way.  -6  -5  -4.  Steelers at home.  It wont matter.  Sure Baltimore has a defense but so does Pittsburgh. Evreryone healthy for the most part for Pittsburgh.  Running game is back. Pitt did not have Willie Parker at all or healthy for either game they played.  2 or 3 yards and a pass fropm Big Ben.  Good luck to everyone and 1 more thing.   Steelers going to the Superbowl.  Steelers by 10.  
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    +6  +5  +4. Just remember if it looks to good to be true, go the other way.  -6  -5  -4.  Steelers at home.  It wont matter.  Sure Baltimore has a defense but so does Pittsburgh. Evreryone healthy for the most part for Pittsburgh.  Running game is back. Pitt did not have Willie Parker at all or healthy for either game they played.  2 or 3 yards and a pass fropm Big Ben.  Good luck to everyone and 1 more thing.   Steelers going to the Superbowl.  Steelers by 10.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2009 - 6:26 PM ET #127

    I have to agree with vegasguy here. Steelers will win by atleast 10. Big Ben will make the diffrence here at home. Flacco will be overwhelmed when he steps on to Heinz field . He will go down like Rivers and the rest of the qbs our defense has stuffed this season. THIS IS EASY $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    THEN THE SUPERBOWL IS NEXT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Good luck you chumps that put your money on Baltimore
     
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    I have to agree with vegasguy here. Steelers will win by atleast 10. Big Ben will make the diffrence here at home. Flacco will be overwhelmed when he steps on to Heinz field . He will go down like Rivers and the rest of the qbs our defense has stuffed this season. THIS IS EASY $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    THEN THE SUPERBOWL IS NEXT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Good luck you chumps that put your money on Baltimore
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2009 - 6:37 PM ET #128

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    I HAVE A QUESTION HERE FOR EVERYONE WHO KNOWS VEGAS.....
     
    you say VEGAS started at 5, then moved it to 6 because of all the action on Baltimore, which is what VEGAS wanted.... so now all the suckers like myself are taking the 6....
     
    well I'm taking the 6 regardless of what VEGAS has planned....
     
    but what if VEGAS is really saying.... "watch all these dumbasses take Pitt -6".........
     
    just because they moved the line the way they did......
     
    me personally.... I like to just evaluate the teams and make my decision based on previous matchups, small leans on trends, and advice from pros in this forum...
     
    I'm on Baltimore +6.... not caring what Vegas has in store... but I do know that Vegas wins more than loses... but I bet with VEGAS sometimes too...
     
    Don't even know where the public is leaning... but I'm guessing it's Baltimore plus 6....
     
    to me, 6 is alot of points.
     
    GL TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!

    Bookie what up,  hey ive seen you on here awhile now and respect your post, but here, this isnt like a decoy throwing smoke over there to divert your attention and say hey we fooled em.  Vegas isnt in it to fool you, thats why they give you cards telling you how to play black jack and other table games.  This is why u saw the tulsa game go from +3 to -3, they made a mistake.  Here vegas opened the line at 4 or 5 and probably really thought that this game will be a coin toss, if it is they collect the vig and smile, now i do  believe action is on the favorite here but with all the study ive done.  im probably going to stay away from this game.  I would lean ravens though, six seems to be a bit much in my eyes! remember the crazy touchdown call where the ball didnt cross line and pitt wins 45 secs left!  good luck all

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    I HAVE A QUESTION HERE FOR EVERYONE WHO KNOWS VEGAS.....
     
    you say VEGAS started at 5, then moved it to 6 because of all the action on Baltimore, which is what VEGAS wanted.... so now all the suckers like myself are taking the 6....
     
    well I'm taking the 6 regardless of what VEGAS has planned....
     
    but what if VEGAS is really saying.... "watch all these dumbasses take Pitt -6".........
     
    just because they moved the line the way they did......
     
    me personally.... I like to just evaluate the teams and make my decision based on previous matchups, small leans on trends, and advice from pros in this forum...
     
    I'm on Baltimore +6.... not caring what Vegas has in store... but I do know that Vegas wins more than loses... but I bet with VEGAS sometimes too...
     
    Don't even know where the public is leaning... but I'm guessing it's Baltimore plus 6....
     
    to me, 6 is alot of points.
     
    GL TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!

    Bookie what up,  hey ive seen you on here awhile now and respect your post, but here, this isnt like a decoy throwing smoke over there to divert your attention and say hey we fooled em.  Vegas isnt in it to fool you, thats why they give you cards telling you how to play black jack and other table games.  This is why u saw the tulsa game go from +3 to -3, they made a mistake.  Here vegas opened the line at 4 or 5 and probably really thought that this game will be a coin toss, if it is they collect the vig and smile, now i do  believe action is on the favorite here but with all the study ive done.  im probably going to stay away from this game.  I would lean ravens though, six seems to be a bit much in my eyes! remember the crazy touchdown call where the ball didnt cross line and pitt wins 45 secs left!  good luck all

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2009 - 9:12 PM ET #129

    So far for me, I'm taking Baltimore +16 (buying 10). Unless there is a dramatic injury report which even then, I love Balitimore with 2 Plus TD's. This game will be kept close just like the last 2 games. Baltimore will be targeting and gunning for Big Ben. He will be on his back looking at the sky a lot in this game, and may not finish the game if they give him another concussion. If I can get 2 plus TD's in a Playoff game, I'm all over it. Especially in this game.
    GL
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    So far for me, I'm taking Baltimore +16 (buying 10). Unless there is a dramatic injury report which even then, I love Balitimore with 2 Plus TD's. This game will be kept close just like the last 2 games. Baltimore will be targeting and gunning for Big Ben. He will be on his back looking at the sky a lot in this game, and may not finish the game if they give him another concussion. If I can get 2 plus TD's in a Playoff game, I'm all over it. Especially in this game.
    GL
     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2009 - 9:21 PM ET #130

    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    So far for me, I'm taking Baltimore +16 (buying 10). Unless there is a dramatic injury report which even then, I love Balitimore with 2 Plus TD's. This game will be kept close just like the last 2 games. Baltimore will be targeting and gunning for Big Ben. He will be on his back looking at the sky a lot in this game, and may not finish the game if they give him another concussion. If I can get 2 plus TD's in a Playoff game, I'm all over it. Especially in this game.
    GL

    what up with sportsfreak69 is she 4real, anyways are u teasing this game, not sure how u buy 10 points

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    So far for me, I'm taking Baltimore +16 (buying 10). Unless there is a dramatic injury report which even then, I love Balitimore with 2 Plus TD's. This game will be kept close just like the last 2 games. Baltimore will be targeting and gunning for Big Ben. He will be on his back looking at the sky a lot in this game, and may not finish the game if they give him another concussion. If I can get 2 plus TD's in a Playoff game, I'm all over it. Especially in this game.
    GL

    what up with sportsfreak69 is she 4real, anyways are u teasing this game, not sure how u buy 10 points

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2009 - 9:57 PM ET #131

    Quote Originally Posted by chad2322:

    Bookie what up,  hey ive seen you on here awhile now and respect your post, but here, this isnt like a decoy throwing smoke over there to divert your attention and say hey we fooled em.  Vegas isnt in it to fool you, thats why they give you cards telling you how to play black jack and other table games.  This is why u saw the tulsa game go from +3 to -3, they made a mistake.  Here vegas opened the line at 4 or 5 and probably really thought that this game will be a coin toss, if it is they collect the vig and smile, now i do  believe action is on the favorite here but with all the study ive done.  im probably going to stay away from this game.  I would lean ravens though, six seems to be a bit much in my eyes! remember the crazy touchdown call where the ball didnt cross line and pitt wins 45 secs left!  good luck all

    i was using a kind of sarcastic tone with the vegas thing lol... I know how it works its just that some of these posts are so rediculous with people trying to figure out what vegas is telling you.... its easy just watch the line lol good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad2322:

    Bookie what up,  hey ive seen you on here awhile now and respect your post, but here, this isnt like a decoy throwing smoke over there to divert your attention and say hey we fooled em.  Vegas isnt in it to fool you, thats why they give you cards telling you how to play black jack and other table games.  This is why u saw the tulsa game go from +3 to -3, they made a mistake.  Here vegas opened the line at 4 or 5 and probably really thought that this game will be a coin toss, if it is they collect the vig and smile, now i do  believe action is on the favorite here but with all the study ive done.  im probably going to stay away from this game.  I would lean ravens though, six seems to be a bit much in my eyes! remember the crazy touchdown call where the ball didnt cross line and pitt wins 45 secs left!  good luck all

    i was using a kind of sarcastic tone with the vegas thing lol... I know how it works its just that some of these posts are so rediculous with people trying to figure out what vegas is telling you.... its easy just watch the line lol good luck

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2009 - 10:03 PM ET #132

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    i was using a kind of sarcastic tone with the vegas thing lol... I know how it works its just that some of these posts are so rediculous with people trying to figure out what vegas is telling you.... its easy just watch the line lol good luck

    yea im taking ravens plus the points. should be a great dfensive game and 6 should be good i think, gl to u to

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    i was using a kind of sarcastic tone with the vegas thing lol... I know how it works its just that some of these posts are so rediculous with people trying to figure out what vegas is telling you.... its easy just watch the line lol good luck

    yea im taking ravens plus the points. should be a great dfensive game and 6 should be good i think, gl to u to

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2009 - 11:04 PM ET #133

    The majority on Ravens, going up to 6.
    Ravens are lucky to be in this game.
    Steelers to the bank here.  Why would you get 6 if the Ravens had a chance to win here?
    Rookie qb in the biggest game of his life will be nervous.
    Ravens rb banged up last week.
    Steelers should end up in Superbowl.
    Holmes has stepped up as a big game threat.
    Clayton and Mason are playing out of their minds, that cant continue, they arent that good.
    Ed Reed had 3 tackles last week, so enough stupid Ed Reed shit here ok Ed Reed lover guy.
    Steelers have played Ravens enough now to now how to beat this team.
    Steelers here
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    The majority on Ravens, going up to 6.
    Ravens are lucky to be in this game.
    Steelers to the bank here.  Why would you get 6 if the Ravens had a chance to win here?
    Rookie qb in the biggest game of his life will be nervous.
    Ravens rb banged up last week.
    Steelers should end up in Superbowl.
    Holmes has stepped up as a big game threat.
    Clayton and Mason are playing out of their minds, that cant continue, they arent that good.
    Ed Reed had 3 tackles last week, so enough stupid Ed Reed shit here ok Ed Reed lover guy.
    Steelers have played Ravens enough now to now how to beat this team.
    Steelers here
     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2009 - 11:48 PM ET #134

    The Eagles Steelers Superbowl is over due.

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    The Eagles Steelers Superbowl is over due.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 1:17 AM ET #135

    and hey who knew that baltimore`s rushing stats against pitt was so bad.........    first game - 127   second game - 105......
     
       but i know it all comes down to flacco. witch hasnt thrown a pick or been sacked yet in the postseason. that baltimore O line is very underated
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    and hey who knew that baltimore`s rushing stats against pitt was so bad.........    first game - 127   second game - 105......
     
       but i know it all comes down to flacco. witch hasnt thrown a pick or been sacked yet in the postseason. that baltimore O line is very underated
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 1:23 AM ET #136

    and for "fast willie parker" in six career games against the ravens - 92 total yards 2.2 yards per carry 0000000000 td`s
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    and for "fast willie parker" in six career games against the ravens - 92 total yards 2.2 yards per carry 0000000000 td`s
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 8:49 AM ET #137

     Goatmc,come on you really think ravens will only score 3 pts.  steelers 35-3  lets give them  a final like steelers 24-17 this way we both win.but theres no way balt only scores 3 pts.pitt def is good but not that good BOL.  Steelers cover by a T.D
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     Goatmc,come on you really think ravens will only score 3 pts.  steelers 35-3  lets give them  a final like steelers 24-17 this way we both win.but theres no way balt only scores 3 pts.pitt def is good but not that good BOL.  Steelers cover by a T.D
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 8:51 AM ET #138

     Then again it could end-up a PUSH!
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     Then again it could end-up a PUSH!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 9:33 AM ET #139

    If I was a Dallas fan I would hate these 2 teams also....
     
    actually I would hate football!
     
    Steelers win big... they are healthy... Balt is spent....
     
    Balt keeps it close 1st half....  Steelers win by 20.
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    If I was a Dallas fan I would hate these 2 teams also....
     
    actually I would hate football!
     
    Steelers win big... they are healthy... Balt is spent....
     
    Balt keeps it close 1st half....  Steelers win by 20.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 10:08 AM ET #140

    Tenny did Pitt a favor by beating the shit out of the Balts D.
    Balt too banged up and Flacco will make some mistakes this
    game and the Steelers will win by 10. Just don't think the
    Balt D has enough in them to keep up with Pitt so I also
    like the over pending weather.
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    Tenny did Pitt a favor by beating the shit out of the Balts D.
    Balt too banged up and Flacco will make some mistakes this
    game and the Steelers will win by 10. Just don't think the
    Balt D has enough in them to keep up with Pitt so I also
    like the over pending weather.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 10:14 AM ET #141

    Quote Originally Posted by chad2322:

    yea im taking ravens plus the points. should be a great dfensive game and 6 should be good i think, gl to u to

    FYI I am buying it up to 7 because 16-9 is the score that's in my head.....

    Ravens can't get in the endzone settle for 3 fgs....

    Pitt get 3 fgs plus a Big Ben 15 seconds in the pocket scramble throw to Hinds Ward for a TD seems pretty close to me.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad2322:

    yea im taking ravens plus the points. should be a great dfensive game and 6 should be good i think, gl to u to

    FYI I am buying it up to 7 because 16-9 is the score that's in my head.....

    Ravens can't get in the endzone settle for 3 fgs....

    Pitt get 3 fgs plus a Big Ben 15 seconds in the pocket scramble throw to Hinds Ward for a TD seems pretty close to me.....

     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 10:57 AM ET #142

    Just a Thought......What if Stillers start the game with a "no huddle" offense to get a quick score and put more pressure on Flacco and the coach?  Hmmm  - Just a thought.

    Last week Coach Tomlin had Ben do a suprise punt to pin the Chargers back to prevent a Charger quick score. The Stiller D did their job and it boosted team spirit and confidence.

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    Just a Thought......What if Stillers start the game with a "no huddle" offense to get a quick score and put more pressure on Flacco and the coach?  Hmmm  - Just a thought.

    Last week Coach Tomlin had Ben do a suprise punt to pin the Chargers back to prevent a Charger quick score. The Stiller D did their job and it boosted team spirit and confidence.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 12:50 PM ET #143

    Taking the Ravens to win outright at +220 ML. Looking for Ravens D to get to Pitt QB and shake him up. Three concussions are a factor. Ray Lewis could play the game of his life because he may not get to the AFC game in his career again. Also placing a bet on Ravens -5. I usually don't factor weather into a game at this level, but I am looking at the impact on a 6:30 start, with Sunday...Mostly cloudy with a 40 percent chance of snow showers. Highs in the upper 20s. Lows 10 to 15.
    Weather is going to be a factor in the play calling. Three Rivers has had turf problems. I like to say that I don't see a lot of points scored in this game. THe ovr/und is bouncing back from 33-34, presently 33.5 at one of the casinos I go to. I think bettors will move this line up. I am looking at the und of 33.5, however I think this is a 17-14, or 20-17 at the most. Thats five TD's and is it not difficult to hit a field goal at TRS outside of 39 yards. Going to the casino to check the lines.
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    Taking the Ravens to win outright at +220 ML. Looking for Ravens D to get to Pitt QB and shake him up. Three concussions are a factor. Ray Lewis could play the game of his life because he may not get to the AFC game in his career again. Also placing a bet on Ravens -5. I usually don't factor weather into a game at this level, but I am looking at the impact on a 6:30 start, with Sunday...Mostly cloudy with a 40 percent chance of snow showers. Highs in the upper 20s. Lows 10 to 15.
    Weather is going to be a factor in the play calling. Three Rivers has had turf problems. I like to say that I don't see a lot of points scored in this game. THe ovr/und is bouncing back from 33-34, presently 33.5 at one of the casinos I go to. I think bettors will move this line up. I am looking at the und of 33.5, however I think this is a 17-14, or 20-17 at the most. Thats five TD's and is it not difficult to hit a field goal at TRS outside of 39 yards. Going to the casino to check the lines.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 12:54 PM ET #144

    I meant to say Heinz Field, not Three Rivers. The turf still sucks, thats my point. Sorry and GL
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    I meant to say Heinz Field, not Three Rivers. The turf still sucks, thats my point. Sorry and GL
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 12:56 PM ET #145

    Sorry again, kids busting my chops, Meant to say it is difficult hitting field goals outside of 39 yards at this stadium.
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    Sorry again, kids busting my chops, Meant to say it is difficult hitting field goals outside of 39 yards at this stadium.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 1:01 PM ET #146

    one more error.... dont' lay a bet on Ravens -5 lol.... good luck
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    one more error.... dont' lay a bet on Ravens -5 lol.... good luck
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 1:02 PM ET #147

    Ravens have no offense.  Steelers only need a couple of scores to win.
     
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    Ravens have no offense.  Steelers only need a couple of scores to win.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 1:23 PM ET #148

    Three concussions are not going to be a factor here bentladdle. I would've listened to that before last week's game but not after the game Ben played last week. He showed no ill-effects of the concussion bothering him at all. And it's not like the guy is going to get a concussion now everytime he gets sacked. His head bounced off the ground in the Cleveland game.  Most players would get a concussion after that. Polamalu has had over 5 concussions in his playing days and I'm sure most of the players in this game have had at least 1 or 2. The serious injuries are on the Ravens side. Suggs, if he plays, is not going to be anywhere near 100%.
     
    The field conditions should only help Pittsburgh. They're the ones that are used to it and actually like playing on it. After the Miami game last year Rooney asked the players if they wanted the turf changed and all of the players said no because they feel it gives them an advantage over their opponents.
     
    I was at last weeks game and the field actually looked alright. The weather this week should be just like last week.  It might be a little colder due to the late start time but I would expect about the same amount of snow as last weeks game. The defenses in this game and their ability to cause turnovers will have more of an effect on the play calling than the weather will.
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    Three concussions are not going to be a factor here bentladdle. I would've listened to that before last week's game but not after the game Ben played last week. He showed no ill-effects of the concussion bothering him at all. And it's not like the guy is going to get a concussion now everytime he gets sacked. His head bounced off the ground in the Cleveland game.  Most players would get a concussion after that. Polamalu has had over 5 concussions in his playing days and I'm sure most of the players in this game have had at least 1 or 2. The serious injuries are on the Ravens side. Suggs, if he plays, is not going to be anywhere near 100%.
     
    The field conditions should only help Pittsburgh. They're the ones that are used to it and actually like playing on it. After the Miami game last year Rooney asked the players if they wanted the turf changed and all of the players said no because they feel it gives them an advantage over their opponents.
     
    I was at last weeks game and the field actually looked alright. The weather this week should be just like last week.  It might be a little colder due to the late start time but I would expect about the same amount of snow as last weeks game. The defenses in this game and their ability to cause turnovers will have more of an effect on the play calling than the weather will.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 1:25 PM ET #149

    BreakaBookie, I look for and enjoy your post. I hope it isn't an error. Pittsburg did look good and so did Ben. BUT I have made my bets. BloodyShredder, now you know they got a defense, it just might not match-up to Pitts offense. Best of luck to you both. Looking for a close game. Nine degrees and snow showers.BOL
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    BreakaBookie, I look for and enjoy your post. I hope it isn't an error. Pittsburg did look good and so did Ben. BUT I have made my bets. BloodyShredder, now you know they got a defense, it just might not match-up to Pitts offense. Best of luck to you both. Looking for a close game. Nine degrees and snow showers.BOL
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 1:30 PM ET #150

    Quote Originally Posted by bigcat33:

    Just a Thought......What if Stillers start the game with a "no huddle" offense to get a quick score and put more pressure on Flacco and the coach?  Hmmm  - Just a thought.

    Last week Coach Tomlin had Ben do a suprise punt to pin the Chargers back to prevent a Charger quick score. The Stiller D did their job and it boosted team spirit and confidence.

    I think that's a great idea. It would catch the Ravens completely off guard. Like you said, it could also be a huge boost to the Steelers momentum and confidence. That being said I don't think it will happen. Both offenses will probably stay conservative and wait for their top rated defenses to make a play. But I do like that idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcat33:

    Just a Thought......What if Stillers start the game with a "no huddle" offense to get a quick score and put more pressure on Flacco and the coach?  Hmmm  - Just a thought.

    Last week Coach Tomlin had Ben do a suprise punt to pin the Chargers back to prevent a Charger quick score. The Stiller D did their job and it boosted team spirit and confidence.

    I think that's a great idea. It would catch the Ravens completely off guard. Like you said, it could also be a huge boost to the Steelers momentum and confidence. That being said I don't think it will happen. Both offenses will probably stay conservative and wait for their top rated defenses to make a play. But I do like that idea.

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