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    Baltimore at Houston (10/21/2012)

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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2012 - 1:54 AM ET #1

    Away:  Baltimore [2-4 ATS]
    Home:  Houston [4-2 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Reliant Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Baltimore:
    Passing: Joe Flacco (1690)
    Rushing: Ray Rice (482)
    Receiving: Anquan Boldin (429)

    Houston:
    Passing: Matt Schaub (1394)
    Rushing: Arian Foster (561)
    Receiving: Andre Johnson (358)

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    Away:  Baltimore [2-4 ATS]
    Home:  Houston [4-2 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Reliant Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Baltimore:
    Passing: Joe Flacco (1690)
    Rushing: Ray Rice (482)
    Receiving: Anquan Boldin (429)

    Houston:
    Passing: Matt Schaub (1394)
    Rushing: Arian Foster (561)
    Receiving: Andre Johnson (358)

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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2012 - 4:56 AM ET #2

    Early lean on the Over
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    Early lean on the Over
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2012 - 2:59 PM ET #3

    Houston
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2012 - 8:18 PM ET #4

     I've come to realize that the Texans are THAT GOOD! And  even with Ray Lewis, they are not going to come close to covering in the contest.

    HOUSTON  - 6.5

    Under 48

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     I've come to realize that the Texans are THAT GOOD! And  even with Ray Lewis, they are not going to come close to covering in the contest.

    HOUSTON  - 6.5

    Under 48

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2012 - 8:27 PM ET #5

    0ooo0Oohhh noooooo mister vue !!!! something so very wrong with yur duh data base ?!?! mister ray lewis is out for duh season !!!! i dunno how idiota can you be to post this ? ! but i sure you other pseudos will a show up to make a correction !!! lolololol
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    0ooo0Oohhh noooooo mister vue !!!! something so very wrong with yur duh data base ?!?! mister ray lewis is out for duh season !!!! i dunno how idiota can you be to post this ? ! but i sure you other pseudos will a show up to make a correction !!! lolololol
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2012 - 11:38 PM ET #6

    Houston

    YTD: (28-20-1) 58.3%

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    Houston

    YTD: (28-20-1) 58.3%

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 1:28 AM ET #7

    Houston should run it for 200 yards. So no worries about Ravens getting back in the game and getting a back door cover. This should be a good old beat down for the flailing Ravens.  They suck on the road also.

    Houston decidedly.
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    Houston should run it for 200 yards. So no worries about Ravens getting back in the game and getting a back door cover. This should be a good old beat down for the flailing Ravens.  They suck on the road also.

    Houston decidedly.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 4:34 AM ET #8

    I'll take the ravens since the Texans are on a spiral downfall and cannot cover! Can't see them getting out of that covering slump at home. Maybe, on the road they'll finally show up in there next game since they'll be questionable for not covering against the Jets, Packers, and now Ravens! 

    And for those of you who like facts here you go!

    FACT: Just last week people posted all kinds of loads of crap about G. Bay don't have this and haven't done $#!T yada yada. But yet the Texans are the best team in the NFL and they run and do this and do that yada yada yada!!! All I saw was the Texans get dominated and lit up for a career high 6 TD passes by A. Rod!  What's even worst is that 3 of those TD's was to the same WR! Texans best team in the NFL what a joke.

    FACT: During MNF against the Jets. I read the same load of crap again, how the jets don't have there 2 stars that are key players with D. Revis and S. Holmes and that the Texans was going to kill the Jets. Okay, Well if the Texans was that dominant why couldn't they cover a line that rises to -10 right before the game?

    FACT: Texans the last 2 weeks can't cover! Why not again and continue the streak!
    RAVENS for the cover!
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    I'll take the ravens since the Texans are on a spiral downfall and cannot cover! Can't see them getting out of that covering slump at home. Maybe, on the road they'll finally show up in there next game since they'll be questionable for not covering against the Jets, Packers, and now Ravens! 

    And for those of you who like facts here you go!

    FACT: Just last week people posted all kinds of loads of crap about G. Bay don't have this and haven't done $#!T yada yada. But yet the Texans are the best team in the NFL and they run and do this and do that yada yada yada!!! All I saw was the Texans get dominated and lit up for a career high 6 TD passes by A. Rod!  What's even worst is that 3 of those TD's was to the same WR! Texans best team in the NFL what a joke.

    FACT: During MNF against the Jets. I read the same load of crap again, how the jets don't have there 2 stars that are key players with D. Revis and S. Holmes and that the Texans was going to kill the Jets. Okay, Well if the Texans was that dominant why couldn't they cover a line that rises to -10 right before the game?

    FACT: Texans the last 2 weeks can't cover! Why not again and continue the streak!
    RAVENS for the cover!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 12:49 PM ET #9

    Nice points but Ravens couldnt cover at home against the browns. And struggled against the flailing Eagles. Their defense is not controlling the line. Ravens were dominated by the Cowgirls and shouldnt have won that game except for Dallas incompetence.
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    Nice points but Ravens couldnt cover at home against the browns. And struggled against the flailing Eagles. Their defense is not controlling the line. Ravens were dominated by the Cowgirls and shouldnt have won that game except for Dallas incompetence.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 2:00 PM ET #10

    balt    wins  34 to  31
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    balt    wins  34 to  31
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 6:15 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by mellowman7883:

    Nice points but Ravens couldnt cover at home against the browns. And struggled against the flailing Eagles. Their defense is not controlling the line. Ravens were dominated by the Cowgirls and shouldnt have won that game except for Dallas incompetence.

    I agree with you on you're POV. However, the browns always play the ravens tough for they are divisional rivals. As for the cowgirls I just think that they were due for a good hard fought game to cover a tougher team. None the less the cowgirls are a let down team every single year with person as QB!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowman7883:

    Nice points but Ravens couldnt cover at home against the browns. And struggled against the flailing Eagles. Their defense is not controlling the line. Ravens were dominated by the Cowgirls and shouldnt have won that game except for Dallas incompetence.

    I agree with you on you're POV. However, the browns always play the ravens tough for they are divisional rivals. As for the cowgirls I just think that they were due for a good hard fought game to cover a tougher team. None the less the cowgirls are a let down team every single year with person as QB!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 8:27 PM ET #12

    Thats what I am saying and the Ravens came a hair from being beaten in their home by the cowgirls. This is a bad sign for the Ravens. IT also signals more bad things from the Ravens.
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    Thats what I am saying and the Ravens came a hair from being beaten in their home by the cowgirls. This is a bad sign for the Ravens. IT also signals more bad things from the Ravens.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 8:55 PM ET #13

    Ravens lose Lewis and they were already giving up huge yards to opposing runners.Houston will hand off to best runner(Foster) in football and smoke the Birds.
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    Ravens lose Lewis and they were already giving up huge yards to opposing runners.Houston will hand off to best runner(Foster) in football and smoke the Birds.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 2:21 AM ET #14

    Best play is the Ravens + the points. The Lewis injury is awesome cause it gives you free points....
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    Best play is the Ravens + the points. The Lewis injury is awesome cause it gives you free points....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 10:42 AM ET #15

    We have two teams trying to establish AFC credibilty.I have to go Houston on the M/L and would tease the Ravens as a double win senario.

    The problem for the Ravens isn't the loss of Lewis,it's what it always is...which Flacco shows up.However,after the beat down by GB last week,the fastest way for Houston to tarnish what has been earned before that loss even more,a back to back home loss.These are the games that kill seasons slowly but surely.The Ravens putting Lewis on recall IR tells me they know they can't without him and that isn't good when you depend on a 37 tear old for play and moral.

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    We have two teams trying to establish AFC credibilty.I have to go Houston on the M/L and would tease the Ravens as a double win senario.

    The problem for the Ravens isn't the loss of Lewis,it's what it always is...which Flacco shows up.However,after the beat down by GB last week,the fastest way for Houston to tarnish what has been earned before that loss even more,a back to back home loss.These are the games that kill seasons slowly but surely.The Ravens putting Lewis on recall IR tells me they know they can't without him and that isn't good when you depend on a 37 tear old for play and moral.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 2:46 PM ET #16

    MY RAVENS  COVERS
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    MY RAVENS  COVERS
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 4:46 PM ET #17

    As big as the Lewis loss is for Baltimore, losing Webb is just as severe.  The pass defense was already hurting and giving up 260 per game.  Their best corner is now gone fore the year.  Houston should find success running and passing.  Baltimore will be on a mission to circle the wagons and show they are not out of it due to injuries.

    After Houston's beatdown last weekend, I think they come in very focused just as Baltimore will.  With the home crowd and the Ravens being severely handicapped on defense, the Texans win by 7.  Wouldn't be surprised if Ravens made it closer, but the brand new adjustment to a new MLB and #1 CB is too much against a solid, balanced Texans offense.
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    As big as the Lewis loss is for Baltimore, losing Webb is just as severe.  The pass defense was already hurting and giving up 260 per game.  Their best corner is now gone fore the year.  Houston should find success running and passing.  Baltimore will be on a mission to circle the wagons and show they are not out of it due to injuries.

    After Houston's beatdown last weekend, I think they come in very focused just as Baltimore will.  With the home crowd and the Ravens being severely handicapped on defense, the Texans win by 7.  Wouldn't be surprised if Ravens made it closer, but the brand new adjustment to a new MLB and #1 CB is too much against a solid, balanced Texans offense.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 6:55 PM ET #18

    Ravens in a dogfight....plus pts that is.
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    Ravens in a dogfight....plus pts that is.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 3:17 AM ET #19

    Ravens hasn't lost to the Texans....fact
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    Ravens hasn't lost to the Texans....fact
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 2:13 PM ET #20

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    While see
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by echelon1:

    As big as the Lewis loss is for Baltimore, losing Webb is just as severe.  The pass defense was already hurting and giving up 260 per game.  Their best corner is now gone fore the year.  Houston should find success running and passing.  Baltimore will be on a mission to circle the wagons and show they are not out of it due to injuries.

    After Houston's beatdown last weekend, I think they come in very focused just as Baltimore will.  With the home crowd and the Ravens being severely handicapped on defense, the Texans win by 7.  Wouldn't be surprised if Ravens made it closer, but the brand new adjustment to a new MLB and #1 CB is too much against a solid, balanced Texans offense.

      Best point on the board - plus the fact that Ngata was helped off the field last week doesn't help. Also, on the offensive side, where the likes of Brady, both Mannings, Roethlisberger to some extent, and Drew Brees can operate with little to no defensive help from their team - Flacco's not that guy. He might gloss himself as "elite", but he's nowhere near it........ The worst 5-1 team out there right now, think about it - they could have just as easily been 2-4

    Texans by a lot..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by echelon1:

    As big as the Lewis loss is for Baltimore, losing Webb is just as severe.  The pass defense was already hurting and giving up 260 per game.  Their best corner is now gone fore the year.  Houston should find success running and passing.  Baltimore will be on a mission to circle the wagons and show they are not out of it due to injuries.

    After Houston's beatdown last weekend, I think they come in very focused just as Baltimore will.  With the home crowd and the Ravens being severely handicapped on defense, the Texans win by 7.  Wouldn't be surprised if Ravens made it closer, but the brand new adjustment to a new MLB and #1 CB is too much against a solid, balanced Texans offense.

      Best point on the board - plus the fact that Ngata was helped off the field last week doesn't help. Also, on the offensive side, where the likes of Brady, both Mannings, Roethlisberger to some extent, and Drew Brees can operate with little to no defensive help from their team - Flacco's not that guy. He might gloss himself as "elite", but he's nowhere near it........ The worst 5-1 team out there right now, think about it - they could have just as easily been 2-4

    Texans by a lot..............

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 5:03 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by echelon1:

    As big as the Lewis loss is for Baltimore, losing Webb is just as severe.  The pass defense was already hurting and giving up 260 per game.  Their best corner is now gone fore the year.  Houston should find success running and passing.  Baltimore will be on a mission to circle the wagons and show they are not out of it due to injuries.

    After Houston's beatdown last weekend, I think they come in very focused just as Baltimore will.  With the home crowd and the Ravens being severely handicapped on defense, the Texans win by 7.  Wouldn't be surprised if Ravens made it closer, but the brand new adjustment to a new MLB and #1 CB is too much against a solid, balanced Texans offense.

    With all of this being said the texans on MNF still can't cover against the Jets who had loss there 3 biggest key players D. Revis, S. Holmes and D. Keller. Also the Jets defense isn't all that great at all. For a balance attack from the texans the Jets still had a chance to win!

    Just last week G. Bay against the texans. Texans still can't cover again even though A. Rod was without there #1 WR G. Jennings but yet the Texans balanced "D" got torched for 6 TD's. Plus lets not forget that the G. Bay defense was without there heavy pash rusher B.J. Raji. 

    Yeah, Ravens have some key injuries however, as balance as the Texans are they "THEY STILL CAN'T COVER" even if the other team has key injuries. I could careless who wins the game because what what we are all on here for is all about covering!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by echelon1:

    As big as the Lewis loss is for Baltimore, losing Webb is just as severe.  The pass defense was already hurting and giving up 260 per game.  Their best corner is now gone fore the year.  Houston should find success running and passing.  Baltimore will be on a mission to circle the wagons and show they are not out of it due to injuries.

    After Houston's beatdown last weekend, I think they come in very focused just as Baltimore will.  With the home crowd and the Ravens being severely handicapped on defense, the Texans win by 7.  Wouldn't be surprised if Ravens made it closer, but the brand new adjustment to a new MLB and #1 CB is too much against a solid, balanced Texans offense.

    With all of this being said the texans on MNF still can't cover against the Jets who had loss there 3 biggest key players D. Revis, S. Holmes and D. Keller. Also the Jets defense isn't all that great at all. For a balance attack from the texans the Jets still had a chance to win!

    Just last week G. Bay against the texans. Texans still can't cover again even though A. Rod was without there #1 WR G. Jennings but yet the Texans balanced "D" got torched for 6 TD's. Plus lets not forget that the G. Bay defense was without there heavy pash rusher B.J. Raji. 

    Yeah, Ravens have some key injuries however, as balance as the Texans are they "THEY STILL CAN'T COVER" even if the other team has key injuries. I could careless who wins the game because what what we are all on here for is all about covering!!!
     
    rumalo
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 5:09 PM ET #23

    no lewis , no suggs,  no leadership in bal def, (except ed reed)  , houstos was embarrassed by packers on sunday night , they will be stepping on the gas pedal


    hou  -6   arian foster big game    over 47
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    no lewis , no suggs,  no leadership in bal def, (except ed reed)  , houstos was embarrassed by packers on sunday night , they will be stepping on the gas pedal


    hou  -6   arian foster big game    over 47
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 5:22 PM ET #24

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    I just don't know about this one... You never know which Baltimore team is going to show up, or which Joe Flaco is going to show up. Yes, the Ravens are down Suggs and Webb and Lewis, but they also might come out fighting like an injured/cornered dog. Also, the Texans have a history of starting to let things slide away as the year moves along and they really miss Cushing and Jamison.   

     

    I just don't have a good feeling about this one... I'm staying away.

     

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    I just don't know about this one... You never know which Baltimore team is going to show up, or which Joe Flaco is going to show up. Yes, the Ravens are down Suggs and Webb and Lewis, but they also might come out fighting like an injured/cornered dog. Also, the Texans have a history of starting to let things slide away as the year moves along and they really miss Cushing and Jamison.   

     

    I just don't have a good feeling about this one... I'm staying away.

     

     
     
    Sammy_Ace
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2012 - 6:19 PM ET #25

    Prior to the Giants playing the 49ers last week, I seem to remember everyone talking about the "revenge factor" for the 49ers getting knocked out of the playoffs last year by the Gmen.  Well, I don't seem to hear anyone talking about the revenge factor for this game.  With TJ Yates at quarterback, the Texans lost a very close playoff game last year at Baltimore.  I personally think revenge is an overrated attribute when trying to predict the results of a game.  But I would like to talk about the last time these teams played in that playoff match.    

    In that game, Ladarious Webb had a monster game, coming up with 2 key interceptions.  Ed Reed also had a pick to make it a total of 3 interceptions thrown by Yates.  The Texans still only lost that game by a touchdown, and I would like to explain why.  

    Arian Foster had a field day on this defense (27 carries and 132 yards) .  Andre Johnson also had a great day coming up with 111 yards on 8 catches.  The Texans did this at Baltimore with a healthy Ravens defense in a playoff scenario.  Joe Flacco and Ray Rice on the other hand were for the most part shut down.  Flacco went 14/27 and threw for a 176 yards.  Rice was kept to 60 yards rushing on 21 carries.

    The Ravens won that game because they were at full strength and were able to confuse a young and inexperienced  backup quarterback.  The shoe will be on the other foot this time around, and the Ravens will get bullied on Sunday.  Deep down the Ravens are wishing their bye was this week and not next week.  They could definitely use the extra week to prepare their new starting Mike (they will have to go with one of their former undrafted rookie free agents: Ellerby, McClaine, or McClellan).  We all know Webb is out as well, who is obviously one of the elite corners in the NFL. 

    And for those of you who don't know, Ed Reed announced on a Baltimore radio show this Wednesday that he is playing with a torn labrum.  This sounds like a team that can't wait to get into the bye week, and should probably consider themselves lucky they are 5-1.  They have had some really close calls against the Browns (23-16), Chiefs (9-6), and most recently Dallas (31-29).  They will not have such luck on the road against a Texans team that would like to avenge their playoff loss last year, and make up for their weak effort against Green Bay last week.  Not to mention, the Texans will also be heading into their bye, and they will not want to lose two consecutive games at home.  

    All the angles are pointing towards a comfortable win by the Texans.  I have heard rumors that Terrell Suggs might play, and while that might boost morale, it wont be enough to make a difference.  He played in that playoff game last year and Arian Foster still shredded them.    

    I imagine the books will see equal action on both sides so I wouldn't worry about the line movement. 

    The Texans will get their first franchise win against Baltimore on Sunday, and they will do it in style.

    34-17 is my final.  
    good luck
     


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    Prior to the Giants playing the 49ers last week, I seem to remember everyone talking about the "revenge factor" for the 49ers getting knocked out of the playoffs last year by the Gmen.  Well, I don't seem to hear anyone talking about the revenge factor for this game.  With TJ Yates at quarterback, the Texans lost a very close playoff game last year at Baltimore.  I personally think revenge is an overrated attribute when trying to predict the results of a game.  But I would like to talk about the last time these teams played in that playoff match.    

    In that game, Ladarious Webb had a monster game, coming up with 2 key interceptions.  Ed Reed also had a pick to make it a total of 3 interceptions thrown by Yates.  The Texans still only lost that game by a touchdown, and I would like to explain why.  

    Arian Foster had a field day on this defense (27 carries and 132 yards) .  Andre Johnson also had a great day coming up with 111 yards on 8 catches.  The Texans did this at Baltimore with a healthy Ravens defense in a playoff scenario.  Joe Flacco and Ray Rice on the other hand were for the most part shut down.  Flacco went 14/27 and threw for a 176 yards.  Rice was kept to 60 yards rushing on 21 carries.

    The Ravens won that game because they were at full strength and were able to confuse a young and inexperienced  backup quarterback.  The shoe will be on the other foot this time around, and the Ravens will get bullied on Sunday.  Deep down the Ravens are wishing their bye was this week and not next week.  They could definitely use the extra week to prepare their new starting Mike (they will have to go with one of their former undrafted rookie free agents: Ellerby, McClaine, or McClellan).  We all know Webb is out as well, who is obviously one of the elite corners in the NFL. 

    And for those of you who don't know, Ed Reed announced on a Baltimore radio show this Wednesday that he is playing with a torn labrum.  This sounds like a team that can't wait to get into the bye week, and should probably consider themselves lucky they are 5-1.  They have had some really close calls against the Browns (23-16), Chiefs (9-6), and most recently Dallas (31-29).  They will not have such luck on the road against a Texans team that would like to avenge their playoff loss last year, and make up for their weak effort against Green Bay last week.  Not to mention, the Texans will also be heading into their bye, and they will not want to lose two consecutive games at home.  

    All the angles are pointing towards a comfortable win by the Texans.  I have heard rumors that Terrell Suggs might play, and while that might boost morale, it wont be enough to make a difference.  He played in that playoff game last year and Arian Foster still shredded them.    

    I imagine the books will see equal action on both sides so I wouldn't worry about the line movement. 

    The Texans will get their first franchise win against Baltimore on Sunday, and they will do it in style.

    34-17 is my final.  
    good luck
     


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