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    Baltimore at Denver (01/12/2013)

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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 8:54 AM ET #51

    BRONCOS  LARGE

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    BRONCOS  LARGE

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 8:59 AM ET #52

    Can not really see BALTIMORE keeping it close here.  Get out of the way MANNING is going to roll them. The weather may be an issue. I think the BRONCOS win by 10 to 17 points.....I'll probably buy it to 9.5 regadrdless.   BRONCOS / PATRIOTS nice AFC Championship game.
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    Can not really see BALTIMORE keeping it close here.  Get out of the way MANNING is going to roll them. The weather may be an issue. I think the BRONCOS win by 10 to 17 points.....I'll probably buy it to 9.5 regadrdless.   BRONCOS / PATRIOTS nice AFC Championship game.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 10:24 AM ET #53

    Math play based on both teams' home and away scoring averages (PF and PA) this year:

    Denver 27  Baltimore 17 

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    Math play based on both teams' home and away scoring averages (PF and PA) this year:

    Denver 27  Baltimore 17 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 11:33 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by cashaholic:

    Denver is winning this game SU 

    I wouldn't bet on the spread but. Have a 50-1 future bet riding from when they went 1-3 ...odds makers jumped the gun and I slapped a quich 250 bucks on it 

    Manning has a chance to win the Super Bowl this home home field at Denver will be the advantage in this match up 


    Baltimore stands no chance of winning


    THE BRONCOS WERE NEVER 1-3 AND THEY WERE NEVER 50 TO 1! AND I CALL BULLSHIT ON YOUR BET AMOUNT BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE YOU SAID WAS A LIE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashaholic:

    Denver is winning this game SU 

    I wouldn't bet on the spread but. Have a 50-1 future bet riding from when they went 1-3 ...odds makers jumped the gun and I slapped a quich 250 bucks on it 

    Manning has a chance to win the Super Bowl this home home field at Denver will be the advantage in this match up 


    Baltimore stands no chance of winning


    THE BRONCOS WERE NEVER 1-3 AND THEY WERE NEVER 50 TO 1! AND I CALL BULLSHIT ON YOUR BET AMOUNT BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE YOU SAID WAS A LIE!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 11:38 AM ET #55

    Baltimore is not a good road team. The Ravens haven’t been sharp losing and failing to cover in four of their last six games. Baltimore’s defensive isn’t close to being elite anymore. Broncos have a superior quarterback, defense, special teams, while also owning a huge situational edge being rested at home while Baltimore travels on a short week. 
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    Baltimore is not a good road team. The Ravens haven’t been sharp losing and failing to cover in four of their last six games. Baltimore’s defensive isn’t close to being elite anymore. Broncos have a superior quarterback, defense, special teams, while also owning a huge situational edge being rested at home while Baltimore travels on a short week. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 11:40 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by Vin-Vegas:

    Baltimore is not a good road team. The Ravens haven’t been sharp losing and failing to cover in four of their last six games. Baltimore’s defensive isn’t close to being elite anymore. Broncos have a superior quarterback, defense, special teams, while also owning a huge situational edge being rested at home while Baltimore travels on a short week. 
     DENVER 31-13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vin-Vegas:

    Baltimore is not a good road team. The Ravens haven’t been sharp losing and failing to cover in four of their last six games. Baltimore’s defensive isn’t close to being elite anymore. Broncos have a superior quarterback, defense, special teams, while also owning a huge situational edge being rested at home while Baltimore travels on a short week. 
     DENVER 31-13
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 12:27 PM ET #57

    I like Denver to win the game but do not like a line this high with potential bad weather.  Will wait to make this bet until I see more about field conditions.  You have to like Manning's talent against a beat up defense.  Flacco is erratic at best, especially on the road so for them to keep it close they need a big game from Ray Rice.  Not sure he can carry that load in the high altitude, he didn't have much success the first game they played.
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    I like Denver to win the game but do not like a line this high with potential bad weather.  Will wait to make this bet until I see more about field conditions.  You have to like Manning's talent against a beat up defense.  Flacco is erratic at best, especially on the road so for them to keep it close they need a big game from Ray Rice.  Not sure he can carry that load in the high altitude, he didn't have much success the first game they played.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 12:58 PM ET #58

    Give me the Ravens +10.5 (buying the hook)

    Playoff experience, better defense in bad weather....

    Last matchup Ray Lewis wasn't in the game.... big difference when you have the leader of the defense not playing chess with manning.... last week was the first week all 4 of the defensive stars were in the game.... Suggs, Ngata, Lewis, Ed Reed.... Ed Reed has had alot of success vs. Manning.... look at the amount of INT's he has vs. the Colts...

    despite some of the claims in this forum, the Ravens Defense was flying around last week....

    And no love for the Ravens offense.... Rice/Pierce can both run the ball very well.... Boldin and Smith are 2 legitimate wideouts..... they have a good TE, halfway decent oline (probably decent at best o-line)....

    And don't forget they have a special teams gamebreaker that can ruin that 9.5 spread...

    I may also put in a a ML bet due to my theory that Denver comes out flat-footed and the fact that they have no running game...

    GL TO ALL!

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    Give me the Ravens +10.5 (buying the hook)

    Playoff experience, better defense in bad weather....

    Last matchup Ray Lewis wasn't in the game.... big difference when you have the leader of the defense not playing chess with manning.... last week was the first week all 4 of the defensive stars were in the game.... Suggs, Ngata, Lewis, Ed Reed.... Ed Reed has had alot of success vs. Manning.... look at the amount of INT's he has vs. the Colts...

    despite some of the claims in this forum, the Ravens Defense was flying around last week....

    And no love for the Ravens offense.... Rice/Pierce can both run the ball very well.... Boldin and Smith are 2 legitimate wideouts..... they have a good TE, halfway decent oline (probably decent at best o-line)....

    And don't forget they have a special teams gamebreaker that can ruin that 9.5 spread...

    I may also put in a a ML bet due to my theory that Denver comes out flat-footed and the fact that they have no running game...

    GL TO ALL!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 1:09 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by packerfan1102:

    If you like points then take Houston an up and coming team not Balt who is on a decline. Ray Lewis??? he had his last home game and win. If he looked any more hurt he would have been in a wheel chair. They did him a justice doing all the can to get him on the field. Did you see that brace on his arm? Looked like a robotic harm with about 40% use. Baltimore is done no chance in this one.

    Leave it to a Packer fan to nail it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by packerfan1102:

    If you like points then take Houston an up and coming team not Balt who is on a decline. Ray Lewis??? he had his last home game and win. If he looked any more hurt he would have been in a wheel chair. They did him a justice doing all the can to get him on the field. Did you see that brace on his arm? Looked like a robotic harm with about 40% use. Baltimore is done no chance in this one.

    Leave it to a Packer fan to nail it!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 1:50 PM ET #60

    Denver at home has a record of 7-1.
    recent meeting Denver handle the Ravens in Baltimore, they shut Ray Rice to the tune of 38 yards. The Broncos have one of the best run defence is the league allowing 91 yards per game. (they allowed 58 yards last game)
    Now Denver is at home, up there with the thin air, Manning will go hurry up offence and this old Ravens Defence will be gassed. The Ravens have a average secondary at best excluding Ed Reed who hasnt seem his self this season.
    Joe Flacco on the road is big time suspect, that know what the problem is but his passer rating on the road looks like Mark Sanchez. (4-4) record on the road for the Ravens

    Broncos -9.5 (the line will go down, cause of the weather and people taking the Ravens)

    but regardless Denver -9.5 up up and out 

    I love Ray Lewis but this will be his last game and it will suck for him to go out on a blow out, but thats the  luck of the draw.
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    Denver at home has a record of 7-1.
    recent meeting Denver handle the Ravens in Baltimore, they shut Ray Rice to the tune of 38 yards. The Broncos have one of the best run defence is the league allowing 91 yards per game. (they allowed 58 yards last game)
    Now Denver is at home, up there with the thin air, Manning will go hurry up offence and this old Ravens Defence will be gassed. The Ravens have a average secondary at best excluding Ed Reed who hasnt seem his self this season.
    Joe Flacco on the road is big time suspect, that know what the problem is but his passer rating on the road looks like Mark Sanchez. (4-4) record on the road for the Ravens

    Broncos -9.5 (the line will go down, cause of the weather and people taking the Ravens)

    but regardless Denver -9.5 up up and out 

    I love Ray Lewis but this will be his last game and it will suck for him to go out on a blow out, but thats the  luck of the draw.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 3:41 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

         Without Manning, Denver would have had trouble making the playoffs. Future Hall of Famer Manning is a master at reading  defenses. And as much as I love Ray Ray, it's time to hang up the cleats and call it a career. Ray Lewis will be on the field for leadership & inspiration. The Ravens still have enough "young bucks" to stymie any offense, however it will not be enough. Least I remind everyone that Peyton "was and still is" one neck injury from retiring himself! Flacco has played "lights out" last year in the playoffs against the Patriots, only to miss going to the SB because of a dropped TD pass, and finally by a missed FG!  Seeing the Broncos by 7-8 points.

    BALTIMORE   +  9.5


    I agree with Vue!!!

    Can wait to see the Donkey get smashed.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

         Without Manning, Denver would have had trouble making the playoffs. Future Hall of Famer Manning is a master at reading  defenses. And as much as I love Ray Ray, it's time to hang up the cleats and call it a career. Ray Lewis will be on the field for leadership & inspiration. The Ravens still have enough "young bucks" to stymie any offense, however it will not be enough. Least I remind everyone that Peyton "was and still is" one neck injury from retiring himself! Flacco has played "lights out" last year in the playoffs against the Patriots, only to miss going to the SB because of a dropped TD pass, and finally by a missed FG!  Seeing the Broncos by 7-8 points.

    BALTIMORE   +  9.5


    I agree with Vue!!!

    Can wait to see the Donkey get smashed.....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 5:20 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater:




    by disregarding points 4 and 5 you are disregarding the fact that Baltimore lost 4 of their last 5 games of the season...


    but i know how we can settle this debate... if Baltimore wins or keeps it close, then points 4 and 5 are irrelevant... if Denver embarrasses them, then points 4 and 5 are the reason i got it right and you didn't...

    THE YEAR THE SAINTS WON THE SUPERBOWL, THEY LOST THEIR LAST THREE GAMES OF THE SEASON.

    LOOK AT THE MATCHUPS IN EACH OF THE FOUR GAMES AND YOU SHOULD FIND THREE OF THEM ARE NOT CLOSE.  GUESS WHICH ONE IS. . .?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater:




    by disregarding points 4 and 5 you are disregarding the fact that Baltimore lost 4 of their last 5 games of the season...


    but i know how we can settle this debate... if Baltimore wins or keeps it close, then points 4 and 5 are irrelevant... if Denver embarrasses them, then points 4 and 5 are the reason i got it right and you didn't...

    THE YEAR THE SAINTS WON THE SUPERBOWL, THEY LOST THEIR LAST THREE GAMES OF THE SEASON.

    LOOK AT THE MATCHUPS IN EACH OF THE FOUR GAMES AND YOU SHOULD FIND THREE OF THEM ARE NOT CLOSE.  GUESS WHICH ONE IS. . .?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 5:22 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    Give me the Ravens +10.5 (buying the hook)

    Playoff experience, better defense in bad weather....

    Last matchup Ray Lewis wasn't in the game.... big difference when you have the leader of the defense not playing chess with manning.... last week was the first week all 4 of the defensive stars were in the game.... Suggs, Ngata, Lewis, Ed Reed.... Ed Reed has had alot of success vs. Manning.... look at the amount of INT's he has vs. the Colts...

    despite some of the claims in this forum, the Ravens Defense was flying around last week....

    And no love for the Ravens offense.... Rice/Pierce can both run the ball very well.... Boldin and Smith are 2 legitimate wideouts..... they have a good TE, halfway decent oline (probably decent at best o-line)....

    And don't forget they have a special teams gamebreaker that can ruin that 9.5 spread...

    I may also put in a a ML bet due to my theory that Denver comes out flat-footed and the fact that they have no running game...

    GL TO ALL!

    FINALLY! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    Give me the Ravens +10.5 (buying the hook)

    Playoff experience, better defense in bad weather....

    Last matchup Ray Lewis wasn't in the game.... big difference when you have the leader of the defense not playing chess with manning.... last week was the first week all 4 of the defensive stars were in the game.... Suggs, Ngata, Lewis, Ed Reed.... Ed Reed has had alot of success vs. Manning.... look at the amount of INT's he has vs. the Colts...

    despite some of the claims in this forum, the Ravens Defense was flying around last week....

    And no love for the Ravens offense.... Rice/Pierce can both run the ball very well.... Boldin and Smith are 2 legitimate wideouts..... they have a good TE, halfway decent oline (probably decent at best o-line)....

    And don't forget they have a special teams gamebreaker that can ruin that 9.5 spread...

    I may also put in a a ML bet due to my theory that Denver comes out flat-footed and the fact that they have no running game...

    GL TO ALL!

    FINALLY! 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 5:26 PM ET #64

    [Quote: Originally Posted by brokenleg]

    I agree with Vue!!!

    Can wait to see the Donkey get smashed.....

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by brokenleg]

    I agree with Vue!!!

    Can wait to see the Donkey get smashed.....

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    HAHAHAHA !!!! HEY BROKEN QUAD , VUE LEG , WE'VE ALL SEEN DONKEY VUE'S PICKS GETTING SMASHED ALL YEAR LONG AND VUE GETTING BANNED FOR HAVING NUMEROUS PSEUDOS !!!! LMFAO !!!! ANOTHER 4 K BET ??? YEAHHHH RIGHT !!!! HAHAHAHA YOU GUYS FOOL NO ONE !!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 5:55 PM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by forkball:

    THE YEAR THE SAINTS WON THE SUPERBOWL, THEY LOST THEIR LAST THREE GAMES OF THE SEASON.




    everything about that year violated what was normal this time of year... if you are saying we should bet that the anomalous will take place... i'll pass...
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    Quote Originally Posted by forkball:

    THE YEAR THE SAINTS WON THE SUPERBOWL, THEY LOST THEIR LAST THREE GAMES OF THE SEASON.




    everything about that year violated what was normal this time of year... if you are saying we should bet that the anomalous will take place... i'll pass...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 5:56 PM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by forkball:

    LOOK AT THE MATCHUPS IN EACH OF THE FOUR GAMES AND YOU SHOULD FIND THREE OF THEM ARE NOT CLOSE.  GUESS WHICH ONE IS. . .?



    not this one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by forkball:

    LOOK AT THE MATCHUPS IN EACH OF THE FOUR GAMES AND YOU SHOULD FIND THREE OF THEM ARE NOT CLOSE.  GUESS WHICH ONE IS. . .?



    not this one...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 5:56 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    Give me the Ravens +10.5 (buying the hook)

    Playoff experience, better defense in bad weather....



    guess where you lost me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    Give me the Ravens +10.5 (buying the hook)

    Playoff experience, better defense in bad weather....



    guess where you lost me...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 6:27 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater:



    guess where you lost me...

    you lost your credibility last week when saying the Ravens defense was old and slow....

    you say Ray Lewis was slow in coverage.... which is absolute bullshit.... you really mean to say "he is slow in coverage because he dropped the intereception"....

    Ray Lewis led the team in tackles....

     

    Broncos defense is good, and statistically better throughout the season.... but this is the 2nd game where all 4 perenial pro-bowl starters will be on the field...

     

    Broncos could win, but 9.5 is wayyyyyyyyy to much to give this team....

     

    I never thought I would see the day that the Ravens would be getting this much during a playoff game

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater:



    guess where you lost me...

    you lost your credibility last week when saying the Ravens defense was old and slow....

    you say Ray Lewis was slow in coverage.... which is absolute bullshit.... you really mean to say "he is slow in coverage because he dropped the intereception"....

    Ray Lewis led the team in tackles....

     

    Broncos defense is good, and statistically better throughout the season.... but this is the 2nd game where all 4 perenial pro-bowl starters will be on the field...

     

    Broncos could win, but 9.5 is wayyyyyyyyy to much to give this team....

     

    I never thought I would see the day that the Ravens would be getting this much during a playoff game

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 6:56 PM ET #69

    just parlay the patriots and the over



    Quote Originally Posted by Turbovtk:



    My initial play here I think is to do a 3 team 10pt teaser- and pick the ravens +19 or +20 if the line moves and Patriots +1 and over 38

    This weekend every fav covered and all went under-

    I have a feeling next week the under in some games are in trouble.
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    just parlay the patriots and the over



    Quote Originally Posted by Turbovtk:



    My initial play here I think is to do a 3 team 10pt teaser- and pick the ravens +19 or +20 if the line moves and Patriots +1 and over 38

    This weekend every fav covered and all went under-

    I have a feeling next week the under in some games are in trouble.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 6:58 PM ET #70

    da broncs beat shittsburgh by 6 points in playoffs last year with Tebow! take da broncs -9 or -10 or -14.5 if you have adjusted lines
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    da broncs beat shittsburgh by 6 points in playoffs last year with Tebow! take da broncs -9 or -10 or -14.5 if you have adjusted lines
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 8:04 PM ET #71

    My love for the Broncos runs deep. I think they may be too overconfident in this one. I am not going near them this week-end. Call me a fool but I like Baltimores chances to win straight up!
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    My love for the Broncos runs deep. I think they may be too overconfident in this one. I am not going near them this week-end. Call me a fool but I like Baltimores chances to win straight up!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 8:07 PM ET #72

    I'm in the Pittsburgh TV market, so I see a lot of Ravens games.When they're not at M&T, Flacco doesn't play well.Not just from a statistical standpoint, but his field generalship and decision making suffers.As far as the age of Lewis and the D,it's a fact of nature that you lose a step with age.My criticism with their D is a lack of coheasiveness.They're more interested in beating their chests in front of the camera than worring about winning the game.Denver's on a hell of a ride.A moneyline bet is probably money in the bank, but paying 440 is tough.I'm leaning towards laying the 10, buy i could be talked out of it.:)
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    I'm in the Pittsburgh TV market, so I see a lot of Ravens games.When they're not at M&T, Flacco doesn't play well.Not just from a statistical standpoint, but his field generalship and decision making suffers.As far as the age of Lewis and the D,it's a fact of nature that you lose a step with age.My criticism with their D is a lack of coheasiveness.They're more interested in beating their chests in front of the camera than worring about winning the game.Denver's on a hell of a ride.A moneyline bet is probably money in the bank, but paying 440 is tough.I'm leaning towards laying the 10, buy i could be talked out of it.:)
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 8:53 PM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by NoFrigginWay:

    Quote Originally Posted by brokenleg:


    I agree with Vue!!!

    Can wait to see the Donkey get smashed.....

    [/Quote

    HAHAHAHA !!!! HEY BROKEN QUAD , VUE LEG , WE'VE ALL SEEN DONKEY VUE'S PICKS GETTING SMASHED ALL YEAR LONG AND VUE GETTING BANNED FOR HAVING NUMEROUS PSEUDOS !!!! LMFAO !!!! ANOTHER 4 K BET ??? YEAHHHH RIGHT !!!! HAHAHAHA YOU GUYS FOOL NO ONE !!!

    Not sure I'm reading your jibberish correctly, but assuming if we were all the same person - wouldn't we all be on the same wager? I don't know, I don't read hieroglyphics....

    Oh welll, good luck with your pick - whatever it is..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoFrigginWay:

    Quote Originally Posted by brokenleg:


    I agree with Vue!!!

    Can wait to see the Donkey get smashed.....

    [/Quote

    HAHAHAHA !!!! HEY BROKEN QUAD , VUE LEG , WE'VE ALL SEEN DONKEY VUE'S PICKS GETTING SMASHED ALL YEAR LONG AND VUE GETTING BANNED FOR HAVING NUMEROUS PSEUDOS !!!! LMFAO !!!! ANOTHER 4 K BET ??? YEAHHHH RIGHT !!!! HAHAHAHA YOU GUYS FOOL NO ONE !!!

    Not sure I'm reading your jibberish correctly, but assuming if we were all the same person - wouldn't we all be on the same wager? I don't know, I don't read hieroglyphics....

    Oh welll, good luck with your pick - whatever it is..............

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 9:03 PM ET #74

    RAVENS MONEYLINE!!!!
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    RAVENS MONEYLINE!!!!
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 9:04 PM ET #75

    The  only history I know is Benjamin Franklin's!!! RAVENS WIN!!!
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    The  only history I know is Benjamin Franklin's!!! RAVENS WIN!!!
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