To answer the question, I would say public school no, private school yes as far as getting into trouble goes.
Players can kneel or stay in the locker rooms during the anthem if they want. The NFL can suspend the players if it wants to.
I do think it would be a bit disingenuous for any owner who's stadium/arena was funded by any sort of tax payer money to suspend a player for any protest during the anthem though.
I thought Detox made a good point in post 18.
You are correct on the public v. private schools. You are incorrect on your last point.
Using that philosophy, any employer could prevent someone from engaging in a constitutional act. For example, could the NFL suspend someone for failing to celebrate Christmas?
We know the answer.
Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:
To answer the question, I would say public school no, private school yes as far as getting into trouble goes.
Players can kneel or stay in the locker rooms during the anthem if they want. The NFL can suspend the players if it wants to.
I do think it would be a bit disingenuous for any owner who's stadium/arena was funded by any sort of tax payer money to suspend a player for any protest during the anthem though.
I thought Detox made a good point in post 18.
You are correct on the public v. private schools. You are incorrect on your last point.
Using that philosophy, any employer could prevent someone from engaging in a constitutional act. For example, could the NFL suspend someone for failing to celebrate Christmas?
I am still struggling to understand how Kaepernick disrespected the US Flag and the US military by kneeling during the national anthem.
For the Trump supporters out there
Did you know that
1) Trump campaign store broke the flag code
According to The U.S flag code
<QUOTE>
the American flag "should never be used as wearing apparel
Trump's campaign store sells several shirts with the American flag printed on them alongside the words "Team Trump."
The rule is filed under Title 36, Chapter 10, Section 176 of the United States code. The section it's under is called "Respect for flag."
<UNQUOTE>
2) is a draft dodger
Trump received four "student deferments" and one medical deferment for a bone sour in his foot. He told reporters to look at his records when asked which foot had a "bone spur"
Trump said John McCain was not a war hero
He was a war hero because he got captured. I like people who were not captured
Trump called avoiding STDs in the late 1990s, when he was single, his "personal Vietnam" in an interview with Howard Stern in 1997.
I am still struggling to understand how Kaepernick disrespected the US Flag and the US military by kneeling during the national anthem.
For the Trump supporters out there
Did you know that
1) Trump campaign store broke the flag code
According to The U.S flag code
<QUOTE>
the American flag "should never be used as wearing apparel
Trump's campaign store sells several shirts with the American flag printed on them alongside the words "Team Trump."
The rule is filed under Title 36, Chapter 10, Section 176 of the United States code. The section it's under is called "Respect for flag."
<UNQUOTE>
2) is a draft dodger
Trump received four "student deferments" and one medical deferment for a bone sour in his foot. He told reporters to look at his records when asked which foot had a "bone spur"
Trump said John McCain was not a war hero
He was a war hero because he got captured. I like people who were not captured
Trump called avoiding STDs in the late 1990s, when he was single, his "personal Vietnam" in an interview with Howard Stern in 1997.
They aren't even protesting all police misconduct. They're only protesting police misconduct against black people as if police misconduct against white people is acceptable.
Very divisive.
They aren't even protesting all police misconduct. They're only protesting police misconduct against black people as if police misconduct against white people is acceptable.
How would you people feel if white players took a knee during the national anthem to protest racist affirmative action? Would you still fight for the players "rights"?
How would you people feel if white players took a knee during the national anthem to protest racist affirmative action? Would you still fight for the players "rights"?
What's your point? Are you suggesting that all Americans have the right to carry a pistol inside their workplace?
To the opposite, the Judge protects his right and brings a pistol in his rally under the law. People do have their rights to protest under the Constitution the Judge do so as Kaep.
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
What's your point? Are you suggesting that all Americans have the right to carry a pistol inside their workplace?
To the opposite, the Judge protects his right and brings a pistol in his rally under the law. People do have their rights to protest under the Constitution the Judge do so as Kaep.
Try protesting a board meeting inside the work place using your right to protest.
Use your freedom of speech to tell your bosses wife she's fat.
Bring a firearm into your job.
Your rights go out the window in certain circumstances. The national anthem before a NFL game would be one of those circumstances.
How could someone have a hard time understanding this?
You are beclowning yourself.
One can peacefully protest as long as it does not disrupt employment.
So your protest at the school board meeting is illogical. If one wants to sit for the national anthem at a school board meeting, they can do so.
If one wants to protest and disrupt, that is not protected.
As for guns, one can own a gun. In some states, one can openly carry. But pursuant to the Supreme Court, a business or school has the right to regulate who can carry in that establishment.
There is no constitutional right to call your bosses' wife fat.
But please espouse more legal knowledge.
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Try protesting a board meeting inside the work place using your right to protest.
Use your freedom of speech to tell your bosses wife she's fat.
Bring a firearm into your job.
Your rights go out the window in certain circumstances. The national anthem before a NFL game would be one of those circumstances.
How could someone have a hard time understanding this?
You are beclowning yourself.
One can peacefully protest as long as it does not disrupt employment.
So your protest at the school board meeting is illogical. If one wants to sit for the national anthem at a school board meeting, they can do so.
If one wants to protest and disrupt, that is not protected.
As for guns, one can own a gun. In some states, one can openly carry. But pursuant to the Supreme Court, a business or school has the right to regulate who can carry in that establishment.
There is no constitutional right to call your bosses' wife fat.
Under your logic, a school could require teachers to celebrate Christmas.
Wrong again
I get a kick out of lawyers that don't know what workplace rights are. Everyone with a brain knows that you can't be discriminated against because of your religion.
You're learning things today.
Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
Under your logic, a school could require teachers to celebrate Christmas.
Wrong again
I get a kick out of lawyers that don't know what workplace rights are. Everyone with a brain knows that you can't be discriminated against because of your religion.
Djbrow's long post is too long to dissect. Everyone can clearly see the shortcomings of the post. I'll let it speak for itself.
Self-proclaimed victories.
You can't discriminate against religion and you cannot circumvent the right of a person to peacefully protest provided it does not interfere with their employment.
Under your lying logic, the NFL or an employer could require an employee to wear a flag pin.
Do they have that right?
Yes or no.
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Djbrow's long post is too long to dissect. Everyone can clearly see the shortcomings of the post. I'll let it speak for itself.
Self-proclaimed victories.
You can't discriminate against religion and you cannot circumvent the right of a person to peacefully protest provided it does not interfere with their employment.
Under your lying logic, the NFL or an employer could require an employee to wear a flag pin.
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