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    Posted: Jun. 24, 2023 - 7:30 PM ET #2151

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @Rush51  .I dunno. From where I sit on Saturday morning, it seems the strategy of giving Ukraine just enough help so that they can kick Russia’s ass by themselves, letting Zelensky emerge as the savior of Western Democracy while NATO unifies and rallies and goes wild with sanctions — is making Biden look pretty good.

    well said   . an_cheers

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    @Rush51  .I dunno. From where I sit on Saturday morning, it seems the strategy of giving Ukraine just enough help so that they can kick Russia’s ass by themselves, letting Zelensky emerge as the savior of Western Democracy while NATO unifies and rallies and goes wild with sanctions — is making Biden look pretty good.

    well said   . an_cheers

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @Rush51  .I dunno. From where I sit on Saturday morning, it seems the strategy of giving Ukraine just enough help so that they can kick Russia’s ass by themselves, letting Zelensky emerge as the savior of Western Democracy while NATO unifies and rallies and goes wild with sanctions — is making Biden look pretty good.

    Is this the same Biden that you "admire" who layed out the red carpet for Putin to invade.. 

    Seriously,  it's lost on so many of you that this War never had to happen,  but weak leadership has its consequences.  an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @Rush51  .I dunno. From where I sit on Saturday morning, it seems the strategy of giving Ukraine just enough help so that they can kick Russia’s ass by themselves, letting Zelensky emerge as the savior of Western Democracy while NATO unifies and rallies and goes wild with sanctions — is making Biden look pretty good.

    Is this the same Biden that you "admire" who layed out the red carpet for Putin to invade.. 

    Seriously,  it's lost on so many of you that this War never had to happen,  but weak leadership has its consequences.  an_light

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2023 - 3:19 AM ET #2153

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Is this the same Biden that you "admire" who layed out the red carpet for Putin to invade..  Seriously,  it's lost on so many of you that this War never had to happen,  but weak leadership has its consequences.

    Praising Putin, Trump would not have stopped Russia's invasion of Ukraine.  For over a decade, Putin has been obsessed with restoring the old Soviet union.  For years, Ukraine has been fighting Russia.   Russia conquered Crimea and now the rest of Ukraine is next after years of preparations for larger invasion.  Trump's foreign policies have proven to be destructive in weakening NATO, Ukraine and US global standing to embolden Putin to invade Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Is this the same Biden that you "admire" who layed out the red carpet for Putin to invade..  Seriously,  it's lost on so many of you that this War never had to happen,  but weak leadership has its consequences.

    Praising Putin, Trump would not have stopped Russia's invasion of Ukraine.  For over a decade, Putin has been obsessed with restoring the old Soviet union.  For years, Ukraine has been fighting Russia.   Russia conquered Crimea and now the rest of Ukraine is next after years of preparations for larger invasion.  Trump's foreign policies have proven to be destructive in weakening NATO, Ukraine and US global standing to embolden Putin to invade Ukraine.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2023 - 8:07 AM ET #2154

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    Wait till the Democrats and the Republicans get a hold of this and just and spin it each and every which way possible like an expert breakdancer christening the floor with his or her majestic body work and dance moves ….. Makes me sick that the news just can’t be the news and that all of these sick and depraved individuals have their grimy little hands in all of the networks like my cousin Fred did when we were kids when he’d dip his hand in my Halloween bag of treats when I wasn’t lookin’ …. Fuck you Fred ! And fuck you anybody who spins the news reporting so that it meets your agenda and a certain criteria that you want your viewers to agree with ….. I swear I might just lose my cool here for the first time since 1984 bro . But this shit’s got me heated , like that time I stubbed my toe on my dresser and missed that Electric Boogaloo dance contest . God damn . I’m still pissed ….. Get it together people in the media !

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    Wait till the Democrats and the Republicans get a hold of this and just and spin it each and every which way possible like an expert breakdancer christening the floor with his or her majestic body work and dance moves ….. Makes me sick that the news just can’t be the news and that all of these sick and depraved individuals have their grimy little hands in all of the networks like my cousin Fred did when we were kids when he’d dip his hand in my Halloween bag of treats when I wasn’t lookin’ …. Fuck you Fred ! And fuck you anybody who spins the news reporting so that it meets your agenda and a certain criteria that you want your viewers to agree with ….. I swear I might just lose my cool here for the first time since 1984 bro . But this shit’s got me heated , like that time I stubbed my toe on my dresser and missed that Electric Boogaloo dance contest . God damn . I’m still pissed ….. Get it together people in the media !

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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2023 - 8:22 AM ET #2155

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Is this the same Biden that you "admire" who layed out the red carpet for Putin to invade..  Seriously,  it's lost on so many of you that this War never had to happen,  but weak leadership has its consequences. Praising Putin, Trump would not have stopped Russia's invasion of Ukraine.  For over a decade, Putin has been obsessed with restoring the old Soviet union.  For years, Ukraine has been fighting Russia.   Russia conquered Crimea and now the rest of Ukraine is next after years of preparations for larger invasion.  Trump's foreign policies have proven to be destructive in weakening NATO, Ukraine and US global standing to embolden Putin to invade Ukraine.

    accurate     president biden has fortunately reversed chumps destructive actions

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Is this the same Biden that you "admire" who layed out the red carpet for Putin to invade..  Seriously,  it's lost on so many of you that this War never had to happen,  but weak leadership has its consequences. Praising Putin, Trump would not have stopped Russia's invasion of Ukraine.  For over a decade, Putin has been obsessed with restoring the old Soviet union.  For years, Ukraine has been fighting Russia.   Russia conquered Crimea and now the rest of Ukraine is next after years of preparations for larger invasion.  Trump's foreign policies have proven to be destructive in weakening NATO, Ukraine and US global standing to embolden Putin to invade Ukraine.

    accurate     president biden has fortunately reversed chumps destructive actions

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2023 - 8:29 AM ET #2156

    an_roll_laughThose YEARS OF PREPERATIONS (translation; the excuse why Putin NEVER moved while Trump was in office) didn't go so well for Russia. One would think YEARS OF PREPERATIONS would have yeilded a better plan. Guess Putin was putting in YEARS OF PREPERATIONS during the Bush admin to invade Crimea during Obama's second term?

    Hmmm, Trump was the one who gave Ukraine javelin missles. Trump was the one who bombed a Syrian air base that was occupied by Russians. 

    The Independent 2019; Video footage has emerged apparently showing an abandoned US military base in northern Syria that has been taken over by Russian troops, following Donald Trump’s order to withdraw. an_light

    Trump was the one who ordered the Iranian general killed and they didn't kill a father and his children gathering water by mistake or a sheep herder like the Biden admin. 

    Trump says Putin is savvy and a genius and the Left screams he is bed with Putin. Trump says Xi is smart and now Trump is in bed with China. Trump de-escalates a crazy North Korean leader and the Left screams he likes dictators. This cry wolf syndrome has outlived itself. 

    Funny how the aggression of both Russia and China took off like a Canadian wildfire right after Joe takes office. an_light

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    an_roll_laughThose YEARS OF PREPERATIONS (translation; the excuse why Putin NEVER moved while Trump was in office) didn't go so well for Russia. One would think YEARS OF PREPERATIONS would have yeilded a better plan. Guess Putin was putting in YEARS OF PREPERATIONS during the Bush admin to invade Crimea during Obama's second term?

    Hmmm, Trump was the one who gave Ukraine javelin missles. Trump was the one who bombed a Syrian air base that was occupied by Russians. 

    The Independent 2019; Video footage has emerged apparently showing an abandoned US military base in northern Syria that has been taken over by Russian troops, following Donald Trump’s order to withdraw. an_light

    Trump was the one who ordered the Iranian general killed and they didn't kill a father and his children gathering water by mistake or a sheep herder like the Biden admin. 

    Trump says Putin is savvy and a genius and the Left screams he is bed with Putin. Trump says Xi is smart and now Trump is in bed with China. Trump de-escalates a crazy North Korean leader and the Left screams he likes dictators. This cry wolf syndrome has outlived itself. 

    Funny how the aggression of both Russia and China took off like a Canadian wildfire right after Joe takes office. an_light

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2023 - 8:56 AM ET #2157

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato: Wait till the Democrats and the Republicans get a hold of this and just and spin it each and every which way possible like an expert breakdancer christening the floor with his or her majestic body work and dance moves ….. Makes me sick that the news just can’t be the news and that all of these sick and depraved individuals have their grimy little hands in all of the networks like my cousin Fred did when we were kids when he’d dip his hand in my Halloween bag of treats when I wasn’t lookin’ …. Fuck you Fred ! And fuck you anybody who spins the news reporting so that it meets your agenda and a certain criteria that you want your viewers to agree with ….. I swear I might just lose my cool here for the first time since 1984 bro . But this shit’s got me heated , like that time I stubbed my toe on my dresser and missed that Electric Boogaloo dance contest . God damn . I’m still pissed ….. Get it together people in the media !

    new_laugh_sweat Good stuff.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato: Wait till the Democrats and the Republicans get a hold of this and just and spin it each and every which way possible like an expert breakdancer christening the floor with his or her majestic body work and dance moves ….. Makes me sick that the news just can’t be the news and that all of these sick and depraved individuals have their grimy little hands in all of the networks like my cousin Fred did when we were kids when he’d dip his hand in my Halloween bag of treats when I wasn’t lookin’ …. Fuck you Fred ! And fuck you anybody who spins the news reporting so that it meets your agenda and a certain criteria that you want your viewers to agree with ….. I swear I might just lose my cool here for the first time since 1984 bro . But this shit’s got me heated , like that time I stubbed my toe on my dresser and missed that Electric Boogaloo dance contest . God damn . I’m still pissed ….. Get it together people in the media !

    new_laugh_sweat Good stuff.

     

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     the former deputy chief of Ukraine’s general staff of armed forces told Al Jazeera, adding that it was time to strike Russian forces in the back.

     

    Such a plan looked like a “fairy tale” just a day ago, but the panic and disarray in Russia as troops of the Wagner private military contractor march on Moscow may provide Kyiv with a perfect opportunity to deliver the least expected blow, he said.

     

    Ukraine’s Western backers will, however, inevitably step in to dissuade Kyiv from such decisions to avoid Moscow’s use of nuclear weapons, Romanenko added.

     

    “Of course, our allies will meddle, will try to influence it somehow, in the ‘let’s-not-let-something-bad-happen’ way, to avoid escalation, the use of the weapons of mass destruction,” he said.

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     the former deputy chief of Ukraine’s general staff of armed forces told Al Jazeera, adding that it was time to strike Russian forces in the back.

     

    Such a plan looked like a “fairy tale” just a day ago, but the panic and disarray in Russia as troops of the Wagner private military contractor march on Moscow may provide Kyiv with a perfect opportunity to deliver the least expected blow, he said.

     

    Ukraine’s Western backers will, however, inevitably step in to dissuade Kyiv from such decisions to avoid Moscow’s use of nuclear weapons, Romanenko added.

     

    “Of course, our allies will meddle, will try to influence it somehow, in the ‘let’s-not-let-something-bad-happen’ way, to avoid escalation, the use of the weapons of mass destruction,” he said.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2023 - 3:40 PM ET #2159

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Is this the same Biden that you "admire" who layed out the red carpet for Putin to invade..  Seriously,  it's lost on so many of you that this War never had to happen,  but weak leadership has its consequences. Praising Putin, Trump would not have stopped Russia's invasion of Ukraine.  For over a decade, Putin has been obsessed with restoring the old Soviet union.  For years, Ukraine has been fighting Russia.   Russia conquered Crimea and now the rest of Ukraine is next after years of preparations for larger invasion.  Trump's foreign policies have proven to be destructive in weakening NATO, Ukraine and US global standing to embolden Putin to invade Ukraine.

    Correct on the latter point in BOLD.  Highly unlikely on the former if you had paid any attention to what Russia "wasn't" doing at the time.  Add China in the discussion,  too.

    They weren't buzzing our reconnaissance aircraft like Chinese fighters are doing today , nor cutting off our naval vessels in international waters.  Biden is WEAK. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Is this the same Biden that you "admire" who layed out the red carpet for Putin to invade..  Seriously,  it's lost on so many of you that this War never had to happen,  but weak leadership has its consequences. Praising Putin, Trump would not have stopped Russia's invasion of Ukraine.  For over a decade, Putin has been obsessed with restoring the old Soviet union.  For years, Ukraine has been fighting Russia.   Russia conquered Crimea and now the rest of Ukraine is next after years of preparations for larger invasion.  Trump's foreign policies have proven to be destructive in weakening NATO, Ukraine and US global standing to embolden Putin to invade Ukraine.

    Correct on the latter point in BOLD.  Highly unlikely on the former if you had paid any attention to what Russia "wasn't" doing at the time.  Add China in the discussion,  too.

    They weren't buzzing our reconnaissance aircraft like Chinese fighters are doing today , nor cutting off our naval vessels in international waters.  Biden is WEAK. 

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Those YEARS OF PREPERATIONS (translation; the excuse why Putin NEVER moved while Trump was in office) didn't go so well for Russia. One would think YEARS OF PREPERATIONS would have yeilded a better plan. Guess Putin was putting in YEARS OF PREPERATIONS during the Bush admin to invade Crimea during Obama's second term? Hmmm, Trump was the one who gave Ukraine javelin missles. Trump was the one who bombed a Syrian air base that was occupied by Russians.  The Independent 2019; Video footage has emerged apparently showing an abandoned US military base in northern Syria that has been taken over by Russian troops, following Donald Trump’s order to withdraw.  Trump was the one who ordered the Iranian general killed and they didn't kill a father and his children gathering water by mistake or a sheep herder like the Biden admin.  Trump says Putin is savvy and a genius and the Left screams he is bed with Putin. Trump says Xi is smart and now Trump is in bed with China. Trump de-escalates a crazy North Korean leader and the Left screams he likes dictators. This cry wolf syndrome has outlived itself.  Funny how the aggression of both Russia and China took off like a Canadian wildfire right after Joe takes office.

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    Those YEARS OF PREPERATIONS (translation; the excuse why Putin NEVER moved while Trump was in office) didn't go so well for Russia. One would think YEARS OF PREPERATIONS would have yeilded a better plan. Guess Putin was putting in YEARS OF PREPERATIONS during the Bush admin to invade Crimea during Obama's second term? Hmmm, Trump was the one who gave Ukraine javelin missles. Trump was the one who bombed a Syrian air base that was occupied by Russians.  The Independent 2019; Video footage has emerged apparently showing an abandoned US military base in northern Syria that has been taken over by Russian troops, following Donald Trump’s order to withdraw.  Trump was the one who ordered the Iranian general killed and they didn't kill a father and his children gathering water by mistake or a sheep herder like the Biden admin.  Trump says Putin is savvy and a genius and the Left screams he is bed with Putin. Trump says Xi is smart and now Trump is in bed with China. Trump de-escalates a crazy North Korean leader and the Left screams he likes dictators. This cry wolf syndrome has outlived itself.  Funny how the aggression of both Russia and China took off like a Canadian wildfire right after Joe takes office.

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by KellyM_1964]Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Is this the same Biden that you "admire" who layed out the red carpet for Putin to invade..  Seriously,  it's lost on so many of you that this War never had to happen,  but weak leadership has its consequences. Praising Putin, Trump would not have stopped Russia's invasion of Ukraine.  For over a decade, Putin has been obsessed with restoring the old Soviet union.  For years, Ukraine has been fighting Russia.   Russia conquered Crimea and now the rest of Ukraine is next after years of preparations for larger invasion.  Trump's foreign policies have proven to be destructive in weakening NATO, Ukraine and US global standing to embolden Putin to invade Ukraine. accurate     president biden has fortunately reversed chumps destructive actions[/Quote]

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by KellyM_1964]Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Is this the same Biden that you "admire" who layed out the red carpet for Putin to invade..  Seriously,  it's lost on so many of you that this War never had to happen,  but weak leadership has its consequences. Praising Putin, Trump would not have stopped Russia's invasion of Ukraine.  For over a decade, Putin has been obsessed with restoring the old Soviet union.  For years, Ukraine has been fighting Russia.   Russia conquered Crimea and now the rest of Ukraine is next after years of preparations for larger invasion.  Trump's foreign policies have proven to be destructive in weakening NATO, Ukraine and US global standing to embolden Putin to invade Ukraine. accurate     president biden has fortunately reversed chumps destructive actions[/Quote]

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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2023 - 1:38 AM ET #2162

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/27/ukraines-zelenskyy-says-forces-advancing-in-all-directions

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has visited Ukrainian forces fighting on the front line that runs through the eastern Donetsk region and the south of the country, decorating troops on a day in which he said his forces had “advanced in all directions”.

    In an upbeat message to his nation after visiting the front lines, Zelenskyy said: “This is a happy day. I wished the guys more days like this.”

    “It was a busy day, a lot of emotions… I was honoured to award our warriors, to thank them personally, to shake their hands,” Zelenskyy said in his nightly video address, which was released in the early hours of Tuesday

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    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has visited Ukrainian forces fighting on the front line that runs through the eastern Donetsk region and the south of the country, decorating troops on a day in which he said his forces had “advanced in all directions”.

    In an upbeat message to his nation after visiting the front lines, Zelenskyy said: “This is a happy day. I wished the guys more days like this.”

    “It was a busy day, a lot of emotions… I was honoured to award our warriors, to thank them personally, to shake their hands,” Zelenskyy said in his nightly video address, which was released in the early hours of Tuesday

     
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    Eighty-one percent of Democrats, 56% of Republicans and 57% of independents favor supplying U.S. weapons to Ukraine, according to the latest poll.

    In other findings, the survey said large majorities of Americans - 67% and 73% - are more likely to support a candidate in next year's U.S. presidential election who will continue military aid to Ukraine and one who backs the NATO alliance.*

    *https://www.reuters.com/world/most-americans-support-us-arming-ukraine-reutersipsos-2023-06-28/

    Majority of Americans have supported Ukraine and NATO, this Reuters/Ipsos poll appears to indicate the trend of the 2024 U.S. presidential campaign.

    "The Republican leadership of the House and Senate will also take heart from this,"-- William Taylor, former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine  

     

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    Eighty-one percent of Democrats, 56% of Republicans and 57% of independents favor supplying U.S. weapons to Ukraine, according to the latest poll.

    In other findings, the survey said large majorities of Americans - 67% and 73% - are more likely to support a candidate in next year's U.S. presidential election who will continue military aid to Ukraine and one who backs the NATO alliance.*

    *https://www.reuters.com/world/most-americans-support-us-arming-ukraine-reutersipsos-2023-06-28/

    Majority of Americans have supported Ukraine and NATO, this Reuters/Ipsos poll appears to indicate the trend of the 2024 U.S. presidential campaign.

    "The Republican leadership of the House and Senate will also take heart from this,"-- William Taylor, former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine  

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: @Rush51  .I dunno. From where I sit on Saturday morning, it seems the strategy of giving Ukraine just enough help so that they can kick Russia’s ass by themselves, letting Zelensky emerge as the savior of Western Democracy while NATO unifies and rallies and goes wild with sanctions — is making Biden look pretty good. Is this the same Biden that you "admire" who layed out the red carpet for Putin to invade..  Seriously,  it's lost on so many of you that this War never had to happen,  but weak leadership has its consequences.

    Awe and ukraine is destroying your commie friends yes those commie described nazis are crushing the front k Ines without t b e prison brigades 

    Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says the path to victory is “difficult” and there is no timeframe on when Ukraine will reach its goal.

    On Twitter, Zelenskyy wrote, “We have to realise that the path to our victory is difficult. And now, no one can say when we will complete it. But when the goal is clear and fair, it does not matter how thorny the path to this goal is. Ukraine will walk this path to victory! And this is no longer a dream – it is a reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: @Rush51  .I dunno. From where I sit on Saturday morning, it seems the strategy of giving Ukraine just enough help so that they can kick Russia’s ass by themselves, letting Zelensky emerge as the savior of Western Democracy while NATO unifies and rallies and goes wild with sanctions — is making Biden look pretty good. Is this the same Biden that you "admire" who layed out the red carpet for Putin to invade..  Seriously,  it's lost on so many of you that this War never had to happen,  but weak leadership has its consequences.

    Awe and ukraine is destroying your commie friends yes those commie described nazis are crushing the front k Ines without t b e prison brigades 

    Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says the path to victory is “difficult” and there is no timeframe on when Ukraine will reach its goal.

    On Twitter, Zelenskyy wrote, “We have to realise that the path to our victory is difficult. And now, no one can say when we will complete it. But when the goal is clear and fair, it does not matter how thorny the path to this goal is. Ukraine will walk this path to victory! And this is no longer a dream – it is a reality.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: @Rush51  .I dunno. From where I sit on Saturday morning, it seems the strategy of giving Ukraine just enough help so that they can kick Russia’s ass by themselves, letting Zelensky emerge as the savior of Western Democracy while NATO unifies and rallies and goes wild with sanctions — is making Biden look pretty good. Is this the same Biden that you "admire" who layed out the red carpet for Putin to invade..  Seriously,  it's lost on so many of you that this War never had to happen,  but weak leadership has its consequences.

     

    Awe and ukraine is destroying your commie friends

    definitely making progress even if it is slow but sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: @Rush51  .I dunno. From where I sit on Saturday morning, it seems the strategy of giving Ukraine just enough help so that they can kick Russia’s ass by themselves, letting Zelensky emerge as the savior of Western Democracy while NATO unifies and rallies and goes wild with sanctions — is making Biden look pretty good. Is this the same Biden that you "admire" who layed out the red carpet for Putin to invade..  Seriously,  it's lost on so many of you that this War never had to happen,  but weak leadership has its consequences.

     

    Awe and ukraine is destroying your commie friends

    definitely making progress even if it is slow but sure

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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2023 - 1:27 AM ET #2166

    Good to see former VP Mike Pence visits Ukraine and met with President Zelensky. 

    "...that for my part I will continue to do everything in our power to make sure we provide Ukrainian military with the support they need until they repel the Russian invasion and restore sovereignty of this county...."--Mike Pence

    I may have disagreed with many of Pence' conservative agenda, but here I give him thumbs up on vigorously supporting Ukraine. 

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    Good to see former VP Mike Pence visits Ukraine and met with President Zelensky. 

    "...that for my part I will continue to do everything in our power to make sure we provide Ukrainian military with the support they need until they repel the Russian invasion and restore sovereignty of this county...."--Mike Pence

    I may have disagreed with many of Pence' conservative agenda, but here I give him thumbs up on vigorously supporting Ukraine. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2023 - 8:34 AM ET #2167

    Kill more Russians exterminate the aggressors in Ukraine 

    Ukraine has continued its counter-offensive operations and says its forces are making gains.

     

    The Ukrainian General Staff stated that its forces had seized the "strategic initiative" around what is left of the eastern city of Bakhmut - most of which has been under Russian control after the longest and possibly bloodiest battle in the w

    Source ar https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682

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    Kill more Russians exterminate the aggressors in Ukraine 

    Ukraine has continued its counter-offensive operations and says its forces are making gains.

     

    The Ukrainian General Staff stated that its forces had seized the "strategic initiative" around what is left of the eastern city of Bakhmut - most of which has been under Russian control after the longest and possibly bloodiest battle in the w

    Source ar https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682

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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2023 - 11:41 AM ET #2168

    Diplomatic visits: CIA Director William Burns recently traveled to Ukraine and met with President Volodymyr Zelensky, according to a US official. Spain's Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez is in Kyiv this weekend.

    All intensive purposes for clarity

    Lord Vader is advising kyiv advancements 

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    Diplomatic visits: CIA Director William Burns recently traveled to Ukraine and met with President Volodymyr Zelensky, according to a US official. Spain's Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez is in Kyiv this weekend.

    All intensive purposes for clarity

    Lord Vader is advising kyiv advancements 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2023 - 2:03 PM ET #2169

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato: Wait till the Democrats and the Republicans get a hold of this and just and spin it each and every which way possible like an expert breakdancer christening the floor with his or her majestic body work and dance moves ….. Makes me sick that the news just can’t be the news and that all of these sick and depraved individuals have their grimy little hands in all of the networks like my cousin Fred did when we were kids when he’d dip his hand in my Halloween bag of treats when I wasn’t lookin’ …. Fuck you Fred ! And fuck you anybody who spins the news reporting so that it meets your agenda and a certain criteria that you want your viewers to agree with ….. I swear I might just lose my cool here for the first time since 1984 bro . But this shit’s got me heated , like that time I stubbed my toe on my dresser and missed that Electric Boogaloo dance contest . God damn . I’m still pissed ….. Get it together people in the media !

    To be honest I never felt ice cream eating joe had it in him....

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    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato: Wait till the Democrats and the Republicans get a hold of this and just and spin it each and every which way possible like an expert breakdancer christening the floor with his or her majestic body work and dance moves ….. Makes me sick that the news just can’t be the news and that all of these sick and depraved individuals have their grimy little hands in all of the networks like my cousin Fred did when we were kids when he’d dip his hand in my Halloween bag of treats when I wasn’t lookin’ …. Fuck you Fred ! And fuck you anybody who spins the news reporting so that it meets your agenda and a certain criteria that you want your viewers to agree with ….. I swear I might just lose my cool here for the first time since 1984 bro . But this shit’s got me heated , like that time I stubbed my toe on my dresser and missed that Electric Boogaloo dance contest . God damn . I’m still pissed ….. Get it together people in the media !

    To be honest I never felt ice cream eating joe had it in him....

     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2023 - 9:30 PM ET #2171

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Kill more Russians exterminate the aggressors in Ukraine  Ukraine has continued its counter-offensive operations and says its forces are making gains.   The Ukrainian General Staff stated that its forces had seized the "strategic initiative" around what is left of the eastern city of Bakhmut - most of which has been under Russian control after the longest and possibly bloodiest battle in the w Source ar https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682 Get em. Leave no quarter

    seems about right   thumbs_up

     

     

     

     

     

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    Kill more Russians exterminate the aggressors in Ukraine  Ukraine has continued its counter-offensive operations and says its forces are making gains.   The Ukrainian General Staff stated that its forces had seized the "strategic initiative" around what is left of the eastern city of Bakhmut - most of which has been under Russian control after the longest and possibly bloodiest battle in the w Source ar https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682 Get em. Leave no quarter

    seems about right   thumbs_up

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Kill more Russians exterminate the aggressors in Ukraine  Ukraine has continued its counter-offensive operations and says its forces are making gains.   The Ukrainian General Staff stated that its forces had seized the "strategic initiative" around what is left of the eastern city of Bakhmut - most of which has been under Russian control after the longest and possibly bloodiest battle in the w Source ar https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682 Get em. Leave no quarter

    seems about right   thumbs_up

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Kill more Russians exterminate the aggressors in Ukraine  Ukraine has continued its counter-offensive operations and says its forces are making gains.   The Ukrainian General Staff stated that its forces had seized the "strategic initiative" around what is left of the eastern city of Bakhmut - most of which has been under Russian control after the longest and possibly bloodiest battle in the w Source ar https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682 Get em. Leave no quarter

    seems about right   thumbs_up

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Remember,  if Biden had this same determination in backing Ukraine " before" war even started,  we likely aren't in this position.   But, no.  Democrats are weak, and Putin exploits it w both O'bama and Biden. an_light

     

     

    Biden has blood on his  hands...... lots of it 

     

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    Remember,  if Biden had this same determination in backing Ukraine " before" war even started,  we likely aren't in this position.   But, no.  Democrats are weak, and Putin exploits it w both O'bama and Biden. an_light

     

     

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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2023 - 1:53 AM ET #2174

    William Burns, U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Director, has said the armed mutiny of Yevgeny Prigozhin's Wagner mercenary has showed the "corrosive effect" of Vladimir Putin.

    Putin's power has been weakened, Prigozhin exposed it.    

     

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    William Burns, U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Director, has said the armed mutiny of Yevgeny Prigozhin's Wagner mercenary has showed the "corrosive effect" of Vladimir Putin.

    Putin's power has been weakened, Prigozhin exposed it.    

     

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2023 - 2:05 PM ET #2175

    Drone attack huts Russian Airport in Moscow. 

    Ukraine has launched a drone attack on Moscow, the Russian defence ministry says, forcing flights to be diverted from Vnukovo International Airport.

     

    Five drones were reportedly used in Tuesday's attack, which also targeted locations in the wider region around the capital.

     

    The defence ministry said all the drones were shot down and there were no casualties or damage.

     

    Ukraine has not claimed responsibility for the alleged attack.

     

    Restrictions at Vnukovo airport, one of Moscow's three international airports, have now been lifted. Flights from Turkey, the United Arab Emirates and Egypt were among those affected.

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    Drone attack huts Russian Airport in Moscow. 

    Ukraine has launched a drone attack on Moscow, the Russian defence ministry says, forcing flights to be diverted from Vnukovo International Airport.

     

    Five drones were reportedly used in Tuesday's attack, which also targeted locations in the wider region around the capital.

     

    The defence ministry said all the drones were shot down and there were no casualties or damage.

     

    Ukraine has not claimed responsibility for the alleged attack.

     

    Restrictions at Vnukovo airport, one of Moscow's three international airports, have now been lifted. Flights from Turkey, the United Arab Emirates and Egypt were among those affected.

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