And the REASON WHY Trump threatened to pull out of NATO?? You conveniently LEFT OUT that part.
In a closed-doors meeting at the two-day NATO summit in Brussels, Trump is said to have thrown a “tantrum” over the issue, threatening that the U.S. would go it alone on defense issues if the other NATO members—most of whom are European—do not immediately increase military spending as a percentage of gross domestic product.
---He wanted them TO INCREASE military spending.
----He told Germany what a stupid idea to buy Russian energy.
And the REASON WHY Trump threatened to pull out of NATO?? You conveniently LEFT OUT that part.
In a closed-doors meeting at the two-day NATO summit in Brussels, Trump is said to have thrown a “tantrum” over the issue, threatening that the U.S. would go it alone on defense issues if the other NATO members—most of whom are European—do not immediately increase military spending as a percentage of gross domestic product.
---He wanted them TO INCREASE military spending.
----He told Germany what a stupid idea to buy Russian energy.
According to this tweet from U.S. Embassy at Kyiv, Ukraine, horrible atrocity has been committed by the Russian forces. It has to be condemned by the Western world.
Makes us wonder why people in the USA were cheerleading Putin's invasion.
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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:
Russian forces shot and killed 10 people standing in line for bread in Chernihiv.
According to this tweet from U.S. Embassy at Kyiv, Ukraine, horrible atrocity has been committed by the Russian forces. It has to be condemned by the Western world.
Makes us wonder why people in the USA were cheerleading Putin's invasion.
And the REASON WHY Trump threatened to pull out of NATO?? You conveniently LEFT OUT that part. In a closed-doors meeting at the two-day NATO summit in Brussels, Trump is said to have thrown a “tantrum” over the issue, threatening that the U.S. would go it alone on defense issues if the other NATO members—most of whom are European—do not immediately increase military spending as a percentage of gross domestic product. ---He wanted them TO INCREASE military spending. ----He told Germany what a stupid idea to buy Russian energy. ---He tried his best to STOP Norstream 2. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
I'm sure general Milley will make a phone call to his Russian counter part when sleepy has totally lost it, but I think he lost the number. I'm just lost on why sleepy won't go on offense he know he's in a war and he's scared.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
And the REASON WHY Trump threatened to pull out of NATO?? You conveniently LEFT OUT that part. In a closed-doors meeting at the two-day NATO summit in Brussels, Trump is said to have thrown a “tantrum” over the issue, threatening that the U.S. would go it alone on defense issues if the other NATO members—most of whom are European—do not immediately increase military spending as a percentage of gross domestic product. ---He wanted them TO INCREASE military spending. ----He told Germany what a stupid idea to buy Russian energy. ---He tried his best to STOP Norstream 2. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
I'm sure general Milley will make a phone call to his Russian counter part when sleepy has totally lost it, but I think he lost the number. I'm just lost on why sleepy won't go on offense he know he's in a war and he's scared.
Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Russian forces shot and killed 10 people standing in line for bread in Chernihiv. https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKyiv/status/1504074846342418434?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1504074846342418434%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.ltn.com.tw%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fbreakingnews%2F3862082 According to this tweet from U.S. Embassy at Kyiv, Ukraine, horrible atrocity has been committed by the Russian forces. It has to be condemned by the Western world.
Makes us wonder why people in the USA were cheerleading Putin's invasion.
nobody on the left or center was
some on fux news were and many of their viewers too
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Russian forces shot and killed 10 people standing in line for bread in Chernihiv. https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKyiv/status/1504074846342418434?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1504074846342418434%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.ltn.com.tw%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fbreakingnews%2F3862082 According to this tweet from U.S. Embassy at Kyiv, Ukraine, horrible atrocity has been committed by the Russian forces. It has to be condemned by the Western world.
Makes us wonder why people in the USA were cheerleading Putin's invasion.
nobody on the left or center was
some on fux news were and many of their viewers too
nobody on the left or center was some on fux news were and many of their viewers too
the left is so confused as to why, that's the ironic part of this whole situation. You're all spun around and so damn confused you do what MSM tells you to, and it's all wrong. You all have no clue why Putin is going into Ukraine other then "Putin bad". Biden and the dems in office actually love this situation. You want more electric cars? You want more "green energy"? This is what you want, this is how you're going to get it.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
nobody on the left or center was some on fux news were and many of their viewers too
the left is so confused as to why, that's the ironic part of this whole situation. You're all spun around and so damn confused you do what MSM tells you to, and it's all wrong. You all have no clue why Putin is going into Ukraine other then "Putin bad". Biden and the dems in office actually love this situation. You want more electric cars? You want more "green energy"? This is what you want, this is how you're going to get it.
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Russian forces shot and killed 10 people standing in line for bread in Chernihiv. https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKyiv/status/1504074846342418434?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1504074846342418434%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.ltn.com.tw%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fbreakingnews%2F3862082 According to this tweet from U.S. Embassy at Kyiv, Ukraine, horrible atrocity has been committed by the Russian forces. It has to be condemned by the Western world. Makes us wonder why people in the USA were cheerleading Putin's invasion.
nobody on the left or center was some on fux news were and many of their viewers too
Exactly
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Russian forces shot and killed 10 people standing in line for bread in Chernihiv. https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKyiv/status/1504074846342418434?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1504074846342418434%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.ltn.com.tw%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fbreakingnews%2F3862082 According to this tweet from U.S. Embassy at Kyiv, Ukraine, horrible atrocity has been committed by the Russian forces. It has to be condemned by the Western world. Makes us wonder why people in the USA were cheerleading Putin's invasion.
nobody on the left or center was some on fux news were and many of their viewers too
Does anyone think Ukraine wouldn't be a valued member of NATO now?
Back on February 7th in the other "cancelled" Ukraine thread you said this;
" The entire crisis was manufactured by Putin.
The Biden administration has done pretty much as much as it can to influence his decision making.
Rescinding the promise that the Ukraine may join NATO in the future is non-negotiable.
Removing NATO arms in Eastern Europe is an unrealistic topic.
The next move is Vlad's."
And here we now are, people dead, millions displaced and no end in site. Just like the United States would not tolerate Russian missiles pointed at us from Cuba, Russia will not tolerate NATO missiles pointed at them from the Ukraine. But never a two-way street for some folks, always a one-way.
‘It’s a truth and it must be recognised,’ says Ukrainian leader
Ifhe would have done that to begin with none of this would have happened.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Does anyone think Ukraine wouldn't be a valued member of NATO now?
Back on February 7th in the other "cancelled" Ukraine thread you said this;
" The entire crisis was manufactured by Putin.
The Biden administration has done pretty much as much as it can to influence his decision making.
Rescinding the promise that the Ukraine may join NATO in the future is non-negotiable.
Removing NATO arms in Eastern Europe is an unrealistic topic.
The next move is Vlad's."
And here we now are, people dead, millions displaced and no end in site. Just like the United States would not tolerate Russian missiles pointed at us from Cuba, Russia will not tolerate NATO missiles pointed at them from the Ukraine. But never a two-way street for some folks, always a one-way.
Since there is no chance of Ukraine joining NATO, that isn't the real reason for Russian invasion according to University of Toronto. Putin didn't invade to stop nazism, genocide, bio labs or military threat. The real reason is that Putin wants to dominate Ukraine and turn it into a satellite state under his control. He rejects Ukraine right to exist as an independent country. He wants to replace Ukraine government and destroy its military. He doesn't want to be surrounded by strong democracies as neighbors who choose to align with western countries. However US and much of Europe believe Ukraine should be able to choose its future.
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Since there is no chance of Ukraine joining NATO, that isn't the real reason for Russian invasion according to University of Toronto. Putin didn't invade to stop nazism, genocide, bio labs or military threat. The real reason is that Putin wants to dominate Ukraine and turn it into a satellite state under his control. He rejects Ukraine right to exist as an independent country. He wants to replace Ukraine government and destroy its military. He doesn't want to be surrounded by strong democracies as neighbors who choose to align with western countries. However US and much of Europe believe Ukraine should be able to choose its future.
@UNIMAN Thanks for posting my comments from over a month ago to prove what I said has indeed happened.
I never forgot that "non-negotiable", it stuck in my head. The very reason Ukraine is where it's at today. And I don't give a rat's ass what some university says, pure speculation.
Same can be said for my opinion. Would Putin have invaded Ukraine if if told Russia it would remain neutral? Maybe yes, maybe no. I say no. A straw that broke the camels back.
Again, the invasion is wrong on soo many levels, yet I saw it coming because no one would budge. They were calling Putin's bluff, making it 95% probable that he would invade. So now he needs to save face, gonna get worse unless Zelensky can get a deal made. Even after a deal if it happens, then what?
Everybody thinking Putin on the way out. Then who is in charge? Nevermind, mob mentality never thinks past the moment. So stupid!
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@UNIMAN Thanks for posting my comments from over a month ago to prove what I said has indeed happened.
I never forgot that "non-negotiable", it stuck in my head. The very reason Ukraine is where it's at today. And I don't give a rat's ass what some university says, pure speculation.
Same can be said for my opinion. Would Putin have invaded Ukraine if if told Russia it would remain neutral? Maybe yes, maybe no. I say no. A straw that broke the camels back.
Again, the invasion is wrong on soo many levels, yet I saw it coming because no one would budge. They were calling Putin's bluff, making it 95% probable that he would invade. So now he needs to save face, gonna get worse unless Zelensky can get a deal made. Even after a deal if it happens, then what?
Everybody thinking Putin on the way out. Then who is in charge? Nevermind, mob mentality never thinks past the moment. So stupid!
Since there is no chance of Ukraine joining NATO, that isn't the real reason for Russian invasion according to University of Toronto. Putin didn't invade to stop nazism, genocide, bio labs or military threat. The real reason is that Putin wants to dominate Ukraine and turn it into a satellite state under his control. He rejects Ukraine right to exist as an independent country. He wants to replace Ukraine government and destroy its military. He doesn't want to be surrounded by strong democracies as neighbors who choose to align with western countries. However US and much of Europe believe Ukraine should be able to choose its future.
Spot on, Thirdperson. Vladimir Putin regards himself as some sort of Peter the Great or a Czar, he does not think Ukraine has the right to be an independent nation. The old Russian Empire should restore under his command, or else face cruel invasion by his military forces. Dude is illusional and maniac, Ukraine deserves to be a sovereign country and it is sternly supported by vast majority of countries.
141 countries in the United Nations have voted to condemn Russia for invading Ukraine.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Since there is no chance of Ukraine joining NATO, that isn't the real reason for Russian invasion according to University of Toronto. Putin didn't invade to stop nazism, genocide, bio labs or military threat. The real reason is that Putin wants to dominate Ukraine and turn it into a satellite state under his control. He rejects Ukraine right to exist as an independent country. He wants to replace Ukraine government and destroy its military. He doesn't want to be surrounded by strong democracies as neighbors who choose to align with western countries. However US and much of Europe believe Ukraine should be able to choose its future.
Spot on, Thirdperson. Vladimir Putin regards himself as some sort of Peter the Great or a Czar, he does not think Ukraine has the right to be an independent nation. The old Russian Empire should restore under his command, or else face cruel invasion by his military forces. Dude is illusional and maniac, Ukraine deserves to be a sovereign country and it is sternly supported by vast majority of countries.
141 countries in the United Nations have voted to condemn Russia for invading Ukraine.
Since there is no chance of Ukraine joining NATO, that isn't the real reason for Russian invasion according to University of Toronto. Putin didn't invade to stop nazism, genocide, bio labs or military threat. The real reason is that Putin wants to dominate Ukraine and turn it into a satellite state under his control. He rejects Ukraine right to exist as an independent country. He wants to replace Ukraine government and destroy its military. He doesn't want to be surrounded by strong democracies as neighbors who choose to align with western countries. However US and much of Europe believe Ukraine should be able to choose its future.
Why did Putin mention NATO 40 times in his pre invasion speech?
US and Europe believe Ukraine should choose their future … but only if the US is pulling the strings on their “choices”.
Why did the US back a coup in 2013/14?
Why didn’t they stay out of their business and “let Ukraine choose their future”?
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Since there is no chance of Ukraine joining NATO, that isn't the real reason for Russian invasion according to University of Toronto. Putin didn't invade to stop nazism, genocide, bio labs or military threat. The real reason is that Putin wants to dominate Ukraine and turn it into a satellite state under his control. He rejects Ukraine right to exist as an independent country. He wants to replace Ukraine government and destroy its military. He doesn't want to be surrounded by strong democracies as neighbors who choose to align with western countries. However US and much of Europe believe Ukraine should be able to choose its future.
Why did Putin mention NATO 40 times in his pre invasion speech?
US and Europe believe Ukraine should choose their future … but only if the US is pulling the strings on their “choices”.
Why did the US back a coup in 2013/14?
Why didn’t they stay out of their business and “let Ukraine choose their future”?
141 countries in the United Nations have voted to condemn Russia for invading Ukraine.
Who cares about that?
Russia, China, India and Pakistan are aligning.
Assad just met with UAE. The Middle East is turning on Biden.
An all out war would be 50/50 and countless lives lost on both sides. This is why nobody can issue ‘No Fly Zones’ … and this is why the politicians advocating for a no fly zone are imbeciles.
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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:
141 countries in the United Nations have voted to condemn Russia for invading Ukraine.
Who cares about that?
Russia, China, India and Pakistan are aligning.
Assad just met with UAE. The Middle East is turning on Biden.
An all out war would be 50/50 and countless lives lost on both sides. This is why nobody can issue ‘No Fly Zones’ … and this is why the politicians advocating for a no fly zone are imbeciles.
Who watched the Oliver Stone documentary ‘Ukraine On Fire’?
Interesting when they’re going over Color Revolutions and Black Lives Matter had all of the tell tale signs … even down to the fist emblem.
The CIA, FBI, and Democrats tried to engineer a color revolution on a sitting President.
John Brennan engineered the Color Revolution in Ukraine in 2013/14. That’s a fact. Nuland and Pryatt were hand picking Ukraines government and the call was leaked.
Who watched the Oliver Stone documentary ‘Ukraine On Fire’?
Interesting when they’re going over Color Revolutions and Black Lives Matter had all of the tell tale signs … even down to the fist emblem.
The CIA, FBI, and Democrats tried to engineer a color revolution on a sitting President.
John Brennan engineered the Color Revolution in Ukraine in 2013/14. That’s a fact. Nuland and Pryatt were hand picking Ukraines government and the call was leaked.
@I_Need_A_Detox Oliver Stone Not at all slanted, right?
I know this is your standard response when you can’t debate something but Oliver Stone has left wing political views and voted for Obama twice. ‘Ukraine on Fire’ was released in 2017. Please educate yourself.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@I_Need_A_Detox Oliver Stone Not at all slanted, right?
I know this is your standard response when you can’t debate something but Oliver Stone has left wing political views and voted for Obama twice. ‘Ukraine on Fire’ was released in 2017. Please educate yourself.
Who watched the Oliver Stone documentary ‘Ukraine On Fire’? Interesting when they’re going over Color Revolutions and Black Lives Matter had all of the tell tale signs … even down to the fist emblem.
The CIA, FBI, and Democrats tried to engineer a color revolution on a sitting President.
John Brennan engineered the Color Revolution in Ukraine in 2013/14. That’s a fact. Nuland and Pryatt were hand picking Ukraines government and the call was leaked. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957.amp
The Russian internet group IRA that interfered with elections did this according to Goggle;
GOGGLE put out a statement saying that none of the IRA-linked YouTube accounts was “targeted to the US or to any particular sector of the US population.”
Yet the researchers found that, in fact, of the 1,100 total YouTube videos they discovered, 1,063 focused on police brutality and Black Lives Matter, 571 of which had keywords related to police and police brutality.
The Russians were helping the Democratic party it appears or they wanted the same thing; America f'd up. Goggle lied about it.
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Who watched the Oliver Stone documentary ‘Ukraine On Fire’? Interesting when they’re going over Color Revolutions and Black Lives Matter had all of the tell tale signs … even down to the fist emblem.
The CIA, FBI, and Democrats tried to engineer a color revolution on a sitting President.
John Brennan engineered the Color Revolution in Ukraine in 2013/14. That’s a fact. Nuland and Pryatt were hand picking Ukraines government and the call was leaked. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957.amp
The Russian internet group IRA that interfered with elections did this according to Goggle;
GOGGLE put out a statement saying that none of the IRA-linked YouTube accounts was “targeted to the US or to any particular sector of the US population.”
Yet the researchers found that, in fact, of the 1,100 total YouTube videos they discovered, 1,063 focused on police brutality and Black Lives Matter, 571 of which had keywords related to police and police brutality.
The Russians were helping the Democratic party it appears or they wanted the same thing; America f'd up. Goggle lied about it.
The focus on police brutality and content targeting African Americans wasn’t limited to YouTube. Among more than a dozen web domains the IRA registered, the vast majority, including DoNotShoot.us and Blacktivist.info, were aimed at black communities. Of the 33 most popular Facebook pages linked to the IRA, nearly half focused on black audiences. This effort was particularly successful on Instagram, where the account @blackstagram_ amassed more than 300,000 followers and elicited more than 28 million reactions. Much of this content seemed designed to stoke distrust among African Americans
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The focus on police brutality and content targeting African Americans wasn’t limited to YouTube. Among more than a dozen web domains the IRA registered, the vast majority, including DoNotShoot.us and Blacktivist.info, were aimed at black communities. Of the 33 most popular Facebook pages linked to the IRA, nearly half focused on black audiences. This effort was particularly successful on Instagram, where the account @blackstagram_ amassed more than 300,000 followers and elicited more than 28 million reactions. Much of this content seemed designed to stoke distrust among African Americans
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