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    Ukraine..What's the Next Step?

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    Midnight1
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2022 - 9:52 PM ET #626

    Putin signed a law today that will make it possible for Russia to nationalize the 500+ airplanes that Western leasing companies have demanded to be returned to them.

    The planes are worth more than 10 billion USD. 

    Strange but this doesn't really bother me. It's the cost of doing business with a dictator.

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    Putin signed a law today that will make it possible for Russia to nationalize the 500+ airplanes that Western leasing companies have demanded to be returned to them.

    The planes are worth more than 10 billion USD. 

    Strange but this doesn't really bother me. It's the cost of doing business with a dictator.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2022 - 10:49 PM ET #627

    Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Ben Hodges' assessment that Russian military will stop to attack Ukraine within 10 days because the Russian military does not have the three elements: time, manpower and ammunition.  

    https://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/watch/lt-gen-ben-hodges-russia-going-to-culminate-within-the-next-10-days-135330373657

    May be not within 10 days, but may not be too far away.  

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    Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Ben Hodges' assessment that Russian military will stop to attack Ukraine within 10 days because the Russian military does not have the three elements: time, manpower and ammunition.  

    https://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/watch/lt-gen-ben-hodges-russia-going-to-culminate-within-the-next-10-days-135330373657

    May be not within 10 days, but may not be too far away.  

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2022 - 11:13 PM ET #628

    @Europa

     And rations as well.

    Russian soldiers were provided MRE's that expired years ago.

    You don't send your soldiers into battle without providing them basics.

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    @Europa

     And rations as well.

    Russian soldiers were provided MRE's that expired years ago.

    You don't send your soldiers into battle without providing them basics.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 15, 2022 - 1:33 AM ET #629

    Bodies of Russian Soldiers Filling Up Belarusian Morgues, Residents Say

    “The number of bodies was unbelievably large. People at the Mazyr station were simply shocked by the number of bodies being put on the train,” a local resident in Mazyr told RFE/RL.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-belarus-morgue-soldiers/31750455.html

    On last Wednesday, one US official have estimated up to six thousands of Russian soldiers have been killed in the Ukraine invasion*.

    Russian soldiers have died from a unprovoked war which is directed by Vladimir Putin. 

    *https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-russia-death-toll-invasion/

     

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    Bodies of Russian Soldiers Filling Up Belarusian Morgues, Residents Say

    “The number of bodies was unbelievably large. People at the Mazyr station were simply shocked by the number of bodies being put on the train,” a local resident in Mazyr told RFE/RL.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-belarus-morgue-soldiers/31750455.html

    On last Wednesday, one US official have estimated up to six thousands of Russian soldiers have been killed in the Ukraine invasion*.

    Russian soldiers have died from a unprovoked war which is directed by Vladimir Putin. 

    *https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-russia-death-toll-invasion/

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 15, 2022 - 9:31 AM ET #630

    Let's all hope this ends soon!

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    Let's all hope this ends soon!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 16, 2022 - 11:57 AM ET #631

    Russian forces shot and killed 10 people standing in line for bread in Chernihiv.

    https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKyiv/status/1504074846342418434?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1504074846342418434%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.ltn.com.tw%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fbreakingnews%2F3862082

    According to this tweet from U.S. Embassy at Kyiv, Ukraine, horrible atrocity has been committed by the Russian forces. It has to be condemned by the Western world. 

     

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    Russian forces shot and killed 10 people standing in line for bread in Chernihiv.

    https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKyiv/status/1504074846342418434?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1504074846342418434%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.ltn.com.tw%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fbreakingnews%2F3862082

    According to this tweet from U.S. Embassy at Kyiv, Ukraine, horrible atrocity has been committed by the Russian forces. It has to be condemned by the Western world. 

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 16, 2022 - 10:27 PM ET #632

    13-2 

    The International Court of Justice on Wednesday ordered Russia to stop all military actions in Ukraine tied to its February invasion of the country, and to revoke its claim that Ukrainian citizens requested Russia’s military support.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/international-court-justice-ruling-ukraine-russia-143146573.html

    13-2 ruling order to stop Russian military against Ukraine, those only two judges who vote against the ruling are from Russia and China.

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    13-2 

    The International Court of Justice on Wednesday ordered Russia to stop all military actions in Ukraine tied to its February invasion of the country, and to revoke its claim that Ukrainian citizens requested Russia’s military support.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/international-court-justice-ruling-ukraine-russia-143146573.html

    13-2 ruling order to stop Russian military against Ukraine, those only two judges who vote against the ruling are from Russia and China.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 16, 2022 - 11:00 PM ET #633

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    13-2 ruling order to stop Russian military against Ukraine,

    those only two judges who vote against the ruling are from Russia and China.

    of  course      thumbs_down

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    13-2 ruling order to stop Russian military against Ukraine,

    those only two judges who vote against the ruling are from Russia and China.

    of  course      thumbs_down

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2022 - 10:22 AM ET #634

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Ben Hodges' assessment that Russian military will stop to attack Ukraine within 10 days because the Russian military does not have the three elements: time, manpower and ammunition.   https://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/watch/lt-gen-ben-hodges-russia-going-to-culminate-within-the-next-10-days-135330373657 May be not within 10 days, but may not be too far away.

    This is propaganda that is put out there to make Americans think Russia is weak. 

    They have a ton of ammunition and they’re basically in their backyard. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Ben Hodges' assessment that Russian military will stop to attack Ukraine within 10 days because the Russian military does not have the three elements: time, manpower and ammunition.   https://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/watch/lt-gen-ben-hodges-russia-going-to-culminate-within-the-next-10-days-135330373657 May be not within 10 days, but may not be too far away.

    This is propaganda that is put out there to make Americans think Russia is weak. 

    They have a ton of ammunition and they’re basically in their backyard. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2022 - 10:26 AM ET #635

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Russian forces shot and killed 10 people standing in line for bread in Chernihiv. https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKyiv/status/1504074846342418434?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1504074846342418434%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.ltn.com.tw%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fbreakingnews%2F3862082 According to this tweet from U.S. Embassy at Kyiv, Ukraine, horrible atrocity has been committed by the Russian forces. It has to be condemned by the Western world.

    Joe Biden, as a US senator, supported using air strikes even knowing civilians would die.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/106th-congress/senate-concurrent-resolution/21/all-info

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Russian forces shot and killed 10 people standing in line for bread in Chernihiv. https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKyiv/status/1504074846342418434?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1504074846342418434%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.ltn.com.tw%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fbreakingnews%2F3862082 According to this tweet from U.S. Embassy at Kyiv, Ukraine, horrible atrocity has been committed by the Russian forces. It has to be condemned by the Western world.

    Joe Biden, as a US senator, supported using air strikes even knowing civilians would die.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/106th-congress/senate-concurrent-resolution/21/all-info

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2022 - 12:06 PM ET #636

    This war/ conflict is a great opportunity to judge Russian military capabilities. Unless Putin is sandbagging big time Russia is technologically behind the US. Russian request to China for help in drone warfare speaks volumes. On the flipside the West has discovered Russian missiles are launching counter measures when they detect they are targeted. Am sure our military is scrambling to solve this issue. 

    The real problem is who will join Russia? Many countries hate us and the cracks are showing!

    Another note; when I hear Putin speak his words are the same coming from our politicians and media, just pointed in a different direction. an_light Putin said;

    The Russian people will always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors and simply spit them out like a fly that accidentally flew into their mouths," Putin said Wednesday. "I am convinced that such a natural and necessary self-purification of society will only strengthen our country, our solidarity, cohesion and readiness to respond to any challenges."

    He labeled the conflict "a struggle for our sovereignty, for the future of our country and our children." 

    In the United States;

    GOP rep. Adam Kinzinger tweeted that Gabbard was spreading "actual Russian propaganda" and accused her of being "traitorous." 

    Folks on The View say Trucker Carlson a traitor, should be silenced and imprisoned. 

    That deemed "Misinformation" often censored by media, both here and Putin's Russia. Just the information is different. 

     

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    This war/ conflict is a great opportunity to judge Russian military capabilities. Unless Putin is sandbagging big time Russia is technologically behind the US. Russian request to China for help in drone warfare speaks volumes. On the flipside the West has discovered Russian missiles are launching counter measures when they detect they are targeted. Am sure our military is scrambling to solve this issue. 

    The real problem is who will join Russia? Many countries hate us and the cracks are showing!

    Another note; when I hear Putin speak his words are the same coming from our politicians and media, just pointed in a different direction. an_light Putin said;

    The Russian people will always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors and simply spit them out like a fly that accidentally flew into their mouths," Putin said Wednesday. "I am convinced that such a natural and necessary self-purification of society will only strengthen our country, our solidarity, cohesion and readiness to respond to any challenges."

    He labeled the conflict "a struggle for our sovereignty, for the future of our country and our children." 

    In the United States;

    GOP rep. Adam Kinzinger tweeted that Gabbard was spreading "actual Russian propaganda" and accused her of being "traitorous." 

    Folks on The View say Trucker Carlson a traitor, should be silenced and imprisoned. 

    That deemed "Misinformation" often censored by media, both here and Putin's Russia. Just the information is different. 

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2022 - 12:12 PM ET #637

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Russian forces shot and killed 10 people standing in line for bread in Chernihiv.

    https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKyiv/status/1504074846342418434?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1504074846342418434%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.ltn.com.tw%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fbreakingnews%2F3862082

    According to this tweet from U.S. Embassy at Kyiv, Ukraine, horrible atrocity has been committed by the Russian forces. It has to be condemned by the Western world. 

    war crime   atrocity

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Russian forces shot and killed 10 people standing in line for bread in Chernihiv.

    https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKyiv/status/1504074846342418434?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1504074846342418434%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.ltn.com.tw%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fbreakingnews%2F3862082

    According to this tweet from U.S. Embassy at Kyiv, Ukraine, horrible atrocity has been committed by the Russian forces. It has to be condemned by the Western world. 

    war crime   atrocity

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2022 - 4:17 PM ET #638

    SOS Blinken lays out an ominous set of tactics the US believes Russia is likely to undertake soon:

    -A "chemical weapon" attack followed by "falsely blaming Ukraine" for it as a rationale to escalate militarily 

    -Deploying more mercenaries

    -Systematic kidnappings of local officials

    Our intelligence has been outstanding during this war in anticipation of Putin's next move.

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    SOS Blinken lays out an ominous set of tactics the US believes Russia is likely to undertake soon:

    -A "chemical weapon" attack followed by "falsely blaming Ukraine" for it as a rationale to escalate militarily 

    -Deploying more mercenaries

    -Systematic kidnappings of local officials

    Our intelligence has been outstanding during this war in anticipation of Putin's next move.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2022 - 5:05 PM ET #639

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    This war/ conflict is a great opportunity to judge Russian military capabilities. Unless Putin is sandbagging big time Russia is technologically behind the US. Russian request to China for help in drone warfare speaks volumes. On the flipside the West has discovered Russian missiles are launching counter measures when they detect they are targeted. Am sure our military is scrambling to solve this issue.  The real problem is who will join Russia? Many countries hate us and the cracks are showing! Another note; when I hear Putin speak his words are the same coming from our politicians and media, just pointed in a different direction.  Putin said; The Russian people will always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors and simply spit them out like a fly that accidentally flew into their mouths," Putin said Wednesday. "I am convinced that such a natural and necessary self-purification of society will only strengthen our country, our solidarity, cohesion and readiness to respond to any challenges." He labeled the conflict "a struggle for our sovereignty, for the future of our country and our children."  In the United States; GOP rep. Adam Kinzinger tweeted that Gabbard was spreading "actual Russian propaganda" and accused her of being "traitorous."  Folks on The View say Trucker Carlson a traitor, should be silenced and imprisoned.  That deemed "Misinformation" often censored by media, both here and Putin's Russia. Just the information is different.

     

    In America, parents are deemed terrorists because they do not want their 3rd grade child to be brainwashed by a failed, public school system. Which is run by a  tyrannical organization. Not much different than China or Russia. The only difference is how the media presents the information. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    This war/ conflict is a great opportunity to judge Russian military capabilities. Unless Putin is sandbagging big time Russia is technologically behind the US. Russian request to China for help in drone warfare speaks volumes. On the flipside the West has discovered Russian missiles are launching counter measures when they detect they are targeted. Am sure our military is scrambling to solve this issue.  The real problem is who will join Russia? Many countries hate us and the cracks are showing! Another note; when I hear Putin speak his words are the same coming from our politicians and media, just pointed in a different direction.  Putin said; The Russian people will always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors and simply spit them out like a fly that accidentally flew into their mouths," Putin said Wednesday. "I am convinced that such a natural and necessary self-purification of society will only strengthen our country, our solidarity, cohesion and readiness to respond to any challenges." He labeled the conflict "a struggle for our sovereignty, for the future of our country and our children."  In the United States; GOP rep. Adam Kinzinger tweeted that Gabbard was spreading "actual Russian propaganda" and accused her of being "traitorous."  Folks on The View say Trucker Carlson a traitor, should be silenced and imprisoned.  That deemed "Misinformation" often censored by media, both here and Putin's Russia. Just the information is different.

     

    In America, parents are deemed terrorists because they do not want their 3rd grade child to be brainwashed by a failed, public school system. Which is run by a  tyrannical organization. Not much different than China or Russia. The only difference is how the media presents the information. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2022 - 5:20 PM ET #640

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    13-2  The International Court of Justice on Wednesday ordered Russia to stop all military actions in Ukraine tied to its February invasion of the country, and to revoke its claim that Ukrainian citizens requested Russia’s military support. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/international-court-justice-ruling-ukraine-russia-143146573.html

    13-2 ruling order to stop Russian military against Ukraine, those only two judges who vote against the ruling are from Russia and China.

     

    This won't do anything for now,  but later, could have some very serious repercussions to Russia.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    13-2  The International Court of Justice on Wednesday ordered Russia to stop all military actions in Ukraine tied to its February invasion of the country, and to revoke its claim that Ukrainian citizens requested Russia’s military support. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/international-court-justice-ruling-ukraine-russia-143146573.html

    13-2 ruling order to stop Russian military against Ukraine, those only two judges who vote against the ruling are from Russia and China.

     

    This won't do anything for now,  but later, could have some very serious repercussions to Russia.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2022 - 5:21 PM ET #641

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Putin signed a law today that will make it possible for Russia to nationalize the 500+ airplanes that Western leasing companies have demanded to be returned to them. The planes are worth more than 10 billion USD.  Strange but this doesn't really bother me. It's the cost of doing business with a dictator.

     

    Russia is going to be in for a world of hurt  later  for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Putin signed a law today that will make it possible for Russia to nationalize the 500+ airplanes that Western leasing companies have demanded to be returned to them. The planes are worth more than 10 billion USD.  Strange but this doesn't really bother me. It's the cost of doing business with a dictator.

     

    Russia is going to be in for a world of hurt  later  for sure.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2022 - 7:21 PM ET #642

    Quote Originally Posted by Placer:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: This war/ conflict is a great opportunity to judge Russian military capabilities. Unless Putin is sandbagging big time Russia is technologically behind the US. Russian request to China for help in drone warfare speaks volumes. On the flipside the West has discovered Russian missiles are launching counter measures when they detect they are targeted. Am sure our military is scrambling to solve this issue.  The real problem is who will join Russia? Many countries hate us and the cracks are showing! Another note; when I hear Putin speak his words are the same coming from our politicians and media, just pointed in a different direction.  Putin said; The Russian people will always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors and simply spit them out like a fly that accidentally flew into their mouths," Putin said Wednesday. "I am convinced that such a natural and necessary self-purification of society will only strengthen our country, our solidarity, cohesion and readiness to respond to any challenges." He labeled the conflict "a struggle for our sovereignty, for the future of our country and our children."  In the United States; GOP rep. Adam Kinzinger tweeted that Gabbard was spreading "actual Russian propaganda" and accused her of being "traitorous."  Folks on The View say Trucker Carlson a traitor, should be silenced and imprisoned.  That deemed "Misinformation" often censored by media, both here and Putin's Russia. Just the information is different.   In America, parents are deemed terrorists because they do not want their 3rd grade child to be brainwashed by a failed, public school system. Which is run by a  tyrannical organization. Not much different than China or Russia. The only difference is how the media presents the information.

    The president of the nation's largest teachers union tweeted we #standwithukriane twitter.com. of course she spelled Ukraine wrong! an_roll_laugh

    Then the American Federation of Teachers tweeted a picture of a room full of members each holding Ukraine's flag.............all upside down. 

    These folks in charge of educating our children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Placer:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: This war/ conflict is a great opportunity to judge Russian military capabilities. Unless Putin is sandbagging big time Russia is technologically behind the US. Russian request to China for help in drone warfare speaks volumes. On the flipside the West has discovered Russian missiles are launching counter measures when they detect they are targeted. Am sure our military is scrambling to solve this issue.  The real problem is who will join Russia? Many countries hate us and the cracks are showing! Another note; when I hear Putin speak his words are the same coming from our politicians and media, just pointed in a different direction.  Putin said; The Russian people will always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors and simply spit them out like a fly that accidentally flew into their mouths," Putin said Wednesday. "I am convinced that such a natural and necessary self-purification of society will only strengthen our country, our solidarity, cohesion and readiness to respond to any challenges." He labeled the conflict "a struggle for our sovereignty, for the future of our country and our children."  In the United States; GOP rep. Adam Kinzinger tweeted that Gabbard was spreading "actual Russian propaganda" and accused her of being "traitorous."  Folks on The View say Trucker Carlson a traitor, should be silenced and imprisoned.  That deemed "Misinformation" often censored by media, both here and Putin's Russia. Just the information is different.   In America, parents are deemed terrorists because they do not want their 3rd grade child to be brainwashed by a failed, public school system. Which is run by a  tyrannical organization. Not much different than China or Russia. The only difference is how the media presents the information.

    The president of the nation's largest teachers union tweeted we #standwithukriane twitter.com. of course she spelled Ukraine wrong! an_roll_laugh

    Then the American Federation of Teachers tweeted a picture of a room full of members each holding Ukraine's flag.............all upside down. 

    These folks in charge of educating our children.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2022 - 8:15 PM ET #643

    President Z, who couldn't get a meeting with the former guy, speaks with President Biden almost every day.

    What a difference in leadership!

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    President Z, who couldn't get a meeting with the former guy, speaks with President Biden almost every day.

    What a difference in leadership!

    an_clap

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2022 - 9:00 PM ET #644

    Zelensky met Melitopol Mayor Ivan Fedorov. Yesterday Ukraine rescued Fedorov for illegal imprisonment in Luhansk. He was kidnapped and tortured by Russians for refusing to cooperate.

    Great news!

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    Zelensky met Melitopol Mayor Ivan Fedorov. Yesterday Ukraine rescued Fedorov for illegal imprisonment in Luhansk. He was kidnapped and tortured by Russians for refusing to cooperate.

    Great news!

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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2022 - 10:23 PM ET #645

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: 13-2  The International Court of Justice on Wednesday ordered Russia to stop all military actions in Ukraine tied to its February invasion of the country, and to revoke its claim that Ukrainian citizens requested Russia’s military support. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/international-court-justice-ruling-ukraine-russia-143146573.html 13-2 ruling order to stop Russian military against Ukraine, those only two judges who vote against the ruling are from Russia and China.   This won't do anything for now,  but later, could have some very serious repercussions to Russia.

    Both Russia and China are listed as the adversaries to the United States.

    William Burns, Director of Central Intelligence Agency, described Xi Jinping’s China as “a formidable, authoritarian adversary.”*.

    *https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/24/cia-nominee-burns-calls-china-an-authoritarian-adversary.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: 13-2  The International Court of Justice on Wednesday ordered Russia to stop all military actions in Ukraine tied to its February invasion of the country, and to revoke its claim that Ukrainian citizens requested Russia’s military support. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/international-court-justice-ruling-ukraine-russia-143146573.html 13-2 ruling order to stop Russian military against Ukraine, those only two judges who vote against the ruling are from Russia and China.   This won't do anything for now,  but later, could have some very serious repercussions to Russia.

    Both Russia and China are listed as the adversaries to the United States.

    William Burns, Director of Central Intelligence Agency, described Xi Jinping’s China as “a formidable, authoritarian adversary.”*.

    *https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/24/cia-nominee-burns-calls-china-an-authoritarian-adversary.html

     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2022 - 6:36 AM ET #646

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    President Z, who couldn't get a meeting with the former guy, speaks with President Biden almost every day. What a difference in leadership!

    Yeah, Ukraine has done great since Biden became President. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    President Z, who couldn't get a meeting with the former guy, speaks with President Biden almost every day. What a difference in leadership!

    Yeah, Ukraine has done great since Biden became President. 

    an_roll_laugh

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2022 - 7:31 AM ET #647

    The increasingly common idea that Putin’s invasion “wasn’t about NATO” is completely false. 

    They say it isn’t about NATO because it is about NATO. 

    Putin mentioned NATO 40 times in his pre-invasion speech. 

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    The increasingly common idea that Putin’s invasion “wasn’t about NATO” is completely false. 

    They say it isn’t about NATO because it is about NATO. 

    Putin mentioned NATO 40 times in his pre-invasion speech. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2022 - 9:02 AM ET #648

    South African President Cyril Ramaphosa on Thursday blamed NATO for provoking Russia into invading its neighbor Ukraine. 

    Speaking in parliament Thursday, Ramaphosa said the war, now entering its 4th week, could have been avoided if NATO hadn’t expanded eastward. 

    The war could have been avoided if NATO had heeded warnings from amongst its own leaders and officials over the years that its eastward expansion would lead to greater, not less, instability in the region," Ramaphosa said. 

    "There are those who are insisting that we should take a very adversarial stance against Russia. The approach we are going to take (instead) is … insisting there should be dialogue," he said, adding: "Screaming and shouting is not going to bring an end to this conflict." 

     

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    South African President Cyril Ramaphosa on Thursday blamed NATO for provoking Russia into invading its neighbor Ukraine. 

    Speaking in parliament Thursday, Ramaphosa said the war, now entering its 4th week, could have been avoided if NATO hadn’t expanded eastward. 

    The war could have been avoided if NATO had heeded warnings from amongst its own leaders and officials over the years that its eastward expansion would lead to greater, not less, instability in the region," Ramaphosa said. 

    "There are those who are insisting that we should take a very adversarial stance against Russia. The approach we are going to take (instead) is … insisting there should be dialogue," he said, adding: "Screaming and shouting is not going to bring an end to this conflict." 

     

    SMART MAN!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2022 - 9:34 AM ET #649

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    President Z, who couldn't get a meeting with the former guy, speaks with President Biden almost every day. What a difference in leadership!

    Trump gave Putin what he wanted without the risks of war.  He withheld military aid to Ukraine.  He blamed Ukraine for Russian interference in US election.  He threatened to pull US out of NATO.  He destabilized international alliances.  If Zelensky is undermined, risk of replacement by puppet government inviting Russian army for peacekeeping in Ukraine?  In contrast, Biden condemns Putin, rallies NATO and increases military aid to Ukraine. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    President Z, who couldn't get a meeting with the former guy, speaks with President Biden almost every day. What a difference in leadership!

    Trump gave Putin what he wanted without the risks of war.  He withheld military aid to Ukraine.  He blamed Ukraine for Russian interference in US election.  He threatened to pull US out of NATO.  He destabilized international alliances.  If Zelensky is undermined, risk of replacement by puppet government inviting Russian army for peacekeeping in Ukraine?  In contrast, Biden condemns Putin, rallies NATO and increases military aid to Ukraine. 

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: President Z, who couldn't get a meeting with the former guy, speaks with President Biden almost every day. What a difference in leadership! Trump gave Putin what he wanted without the risks of war.  He withheld military aid to Ukraine.  He blamed Ukraine for Russian interference in US election.  He threatened to pull US out of NATO.  He destabilized international alliances.  If Zelensky is undermined, risk of replacement by puppet government inviting Russian army for peacekeeping in Ukraine?  In contrast, Biden condemns Putin, rallies NATO and increases military aid to Ukraine.

    'He was an awful president:' Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL)

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/03/17/adam-kinzinger-ukraine-trump-intv-sciutto-newsroom-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn

    I think as John Bolton has said, Vladimir Putin was waiting until Donald Trump was reelected and pulled us out of NATO for this (Ukraine) attack and of course Joe Bidden didn't have this opportunity...--Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL)

    Donald Trump has praised for Putin's Ukraine invasion is genus and savvy. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: President Z, who couldn't get a meeting with the former guy, speaks with President Biden almost every day. What a difference in leadership! Trump gave Putin what he wanted without the risks of war.  He withheld military aid to Ukraine.  He blamed Ukraine for Russian interference in US election.  He threatened to pull US out of NATO.  He destabilized international alliances.  If Zelensky is undermined, risk of replacement by puppet government inviting Russian army for peacekeeping in Ukraine?  In contrast, Biden condemns Putin, rallies NATO and increases military aid to Ukraine.

    'He was an awful president:' Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL)

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/03/17/adam-kinzinger-ukraine-trump-intv-sciutto-newsroom-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn

    I think as John Bolton has said, Vladimir Putin was waiting until Donald Trump was reelected and pulled us out of NATO for this (Ukraine) attack and of course Joe Bidden didn't have this opportunity...--Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL)

    Donald Trump has praised for Putin's Ukraine invasion is genus and savvy. 

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