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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2024 - 10:51 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @wallstreetcappers    No, you do not 'see Trump exclusively' doing that.   You are simply blinded by your hatred for the man.   To be honest, you lost all credibility about Trump a long time ago. But the point of this is Harris and the Democrats running a fear-based campaign.  Of course, it is Harris.   At least Trump has the sense to mention how well the economy and the world was doing when he was in charge.  That is NOT fear-based, unless you want to say he is trying to scare the folks into thinking the Democrats cannot do what he did.  You might be right about that. But at least he is pointing out good things and positive things he wants to do if he gets back in office. Harris cannot point to anything good or anything positive that she would do.  She cannot differeniate herself from Biden and his losing policies. Therefore, she only resorts to fear and scare tactics. As, was pointed out above, the Democrats have been using the Fascist terminology and running campaigns on reductio ad Hitlerum since WWII. Then they are using the SS scare tactic again, the dividing of 'rich' for 'not paying their fair share of taxes, the fear of women being forced to 'die' in childbirth, the fear of parents being separated from their kids. The new bogeyman of course is the project 2025 nonsense, which Trump has nothing to do with. Now, Harris is saying that 'Trump wants total power'. None of these things your guys are trying to scare the folks with have ever happened and will not happen.   No one is trying to do way with SS -- but you guys keep pushing this scare tactic. There is no way Trump tried to be a dictator before and will not again.  There are far more than enough checks and balances built into the Federalist system for that to happen. Yet, they continue to use this scare-tactic.   Like one guy put it: They can give all kinds of reasons to hate Trump and not vote for him but they can't give ONE good reason why to vote for Harris other than she is not Trump.  It is very sad they have to resort to this; but far sadder that you guys continue to fall for it.

    Yeah, I've noticed this as well.  I even put up with watching her Town Hall last week. Lol. ... For those undecided voters out there ( and I have no idea how you can be at this juncture), let's hope  they wisen up and realize this in time before election day. 

    I don't know when it happened,  but common sense has become so uncommon these days.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @wallstreetcappers    No, you do not 'see Trump exclusively' doing that.   You are simply blinded by your hatred for the man.   To be honest, you lost all credibility about Trump a long time ago. But the point of this is Harris and the Democrats running a fear-based campaign.  Of course, it is Harris.   At least Trump has the sense to mention how well the economy and the world was doing when he was in charge.  That is NOT fear-based, unless you want to say he is trying to scare the folks into thinking the Democrats cannot do what he did.  You might be right about that. But at least he is pointing out good things and positive things he wants to do if he gets back in office. Harris cannot point to anything good or anything positive that she would do.  She cannot differeniate herself from Biden and his losing policies. Therefore, she only resorts to fear and scare tactics. As, was pointed out above, the Democrats have been using the Fascist terminology and running campaigns on reductio ad Hitlerum since WWII. Then they are using the SS scare tactic again, the dividing of 'rich' for 'not paying their fair share of taxes, the fear of women being forced to 'die' in childbirth, the fear of parents being separated from their kids. The new bogeyman of course is the project 2025 nonsense, which Trump has nothing to do with. Now, Harris is saying that 'Trump wants total power'. None of these things your guys are trying to scare the folks with have ever happened and will not happen.   No one is trying to do way with SS -- but you guys keep pushing this scare tactic. There is no way Trump tried to be a dictator before and will not again.  There are far more than enough checks and balances built into the Federalist system for that to happen. Yet, they continue to use this scare-tactic.   Like one guy put it: They can give all kinds of reasons to hate Trump and not vote for him but they can't give ONE good reason why to vote for Harris other than she is not Trump.  It is very sad they have to resort to this; but far sadder that you guys continue to fall for it.

    Yeah, I've noticed this as well.  I even put up with watching her Town Hall last week. Lol. ... For those undecided voters out there ( and I have no idea how you can be at this juncture), let's hope  they wisen up and realize this in time before election day. 

    I don't know when it happened,  but common sense has become so uncommon these days.  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2024 - 10:58 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Donald Trump posted a threat to his political opponents, warning that he will seek mass arrests

     

     

    He's a FASCIST!  an_arsed

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Donald Trump posted a threat to his political opponents, warning that he will seek mass arrests

     

     

    He's a FASCIST!  an_arsed

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2024 - 11:01 PM ET #53

    @Rush51

     So Hamas retorting on that festival and Israel running unstopped to destroy all not of their faith is Bidens fault? 

    Ukraine threatening to join NATO which goes against what they agreed upon is Bidens fault?

    Super logic here...

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    @Rush51

     So Hamas retorting on that festival and Israel running unstopped to destroy all not of their faith is Bidens fault? 

    Ukraine threatening to join NATO which goes against what they agreed upon is Bidens fault?

    Super logic here...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2024 - 11:06 PM ET #54

    @Raiders22

     I cant discuss a topic with someone who is attempting to debate a false pretense.

    People ALL THE TIME have appreciation in a property and downsize or move to another area to realize the appreciation. Why not just say you didnt mean what you said instead of poorly crafting a lousy response when there is none to have.

    There are thousands of people from Washington, Colorado, California, Oregon, Canada who have located down to Arizona to capture the appreciation they gained elsewhere and buy a property plus pocket some cash at the same time.

    Please stop with this stuff its boring watching you try any trick in the book to suggest that a home isnt the LARGEST investment many have and that people have not or should not consider the appreciation as gain.

    You have this tell when you are replying just to debate, you do this acknowledgement word or two and then you try to go down another rabbit hole to defend a point when you cannot debate the original point.

    You can believe all you like and I know you will, but this one is a bad spot even for you to try and salvage.

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    @Raiders22

     I cant discuss a topic with someone who is attempting to debate a false pretense.

    People ALL THE TIME have appreciation in a property and downsize or move to another area to realize the appreciation. Why not just say you didnt mean what you said instead of poorly crafting a lousy response when there is none to have.

    There are thousands of people from Washington, Colorado, California, Oregon, Canada who have located down to Arizona to capture the appreciation they gained elsewhere and buy a property plus pocket some cash at the same time.

    Please stop with this stuff its boring watching you try any trick in the book to suggest that a home isnt the LARGEST investment many have and that people have not or should not consider the appreciation as gain.

    You have this tell when you are replying just to debate, you do this acknowledgement word or two and then you try to go down another rabbit hole to defend a point when you cannot debate the original point.

    You can believe all you like and I know you will, but this one is a bad spot even for you to try and salvage.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2024 - 11:09 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Rush51  So Hamas retorting on that festival and Israel running unstopped to destroy all not of their faith is Bidens fault?  Ukraine threatening to join NATO which goes against what they agreed upon is Bidens fault? Super logic here...

    how can the Ukraine "threaten to join NATO " ? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Rush51  So Hamas retorting on that festival and Israel running unstopped to destroy all not of their faith is Bidens fault?  Ukraine threatening to join NATO which goes against what they agreed upon is Bidens fault? Super logic here...

    how can the Ukraine "threaten to join NATO " ? 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2024 - 11:18 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Raiders22  I cant discuss a topic with someone who is attempting to debate a false pretense. People ALL THE TIME have appreciation in a property and downsize or move to another area to realize the appreciation. Why not just say you didnt mean what you said instead of poorly crafting a lousy response when there is none to have. There are thousands of people from Washington, Colorado, California, Oregon, Canada who have located down to Arizona to capture the appreciation they gained elsewhere and buy a property plus pocket some cash at the same time. Please stop with this stuff its boring watching you try any trick in the book to suggest that a home isnt the LARGEST investment many have and that people have not or should not consider the appreciation as gain. You have this tell when you are replying just to debate, you do this acknowledgement word or two and then you try to go down another rabbit hole to defend a point when you cannot debate the original point. You can believe all you like and I know you will, but this one is a bad spot even for you to try and salvage.

     

    @wallstreetcappers

     peace_5  an_worship    Of course!   Buy a home, raise a family, watch your INVESTMENT grow over the years, and GAIN a massive profit by downsizing at some point after the kids are gonzo!  This is routine!  ....OR..... remain there into retirement and eventually (upon passing) in your will leave the kids - who are already living elsewhere raising their own families by then - a  HUGE PROFIT  from the sale of your investment asset!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Raiders22  I cant discuss a topic with someone who is attempting to debate a false pretense. People ALL THE TIME have appreciation in a property and downsize or move to another area to realize the appreciation. Why not just say you didnt mean what you said instead of poorly crafting a lousy response when there is none to have. There are thousands of people from Washington, Colorado, California, Oregon, Canada who have located down to Arizona to capture the appreciation they gained elsewhere and buy a property plus pocket some cash at the same time. Please stop with this stuff its boring watching you try any trick in the book to suggest that a home isnt the LARGEST investment many have and that people have not or should not consider the appreciation as gain. You have this tell when you are replying just to debate, you do this acknowledgement word or two and then you try to go down another rabbit hole to defend a point when you cannot debate the original point. You can believe all you like and I know you will, but this one is a bad spot even for you to try and salvage.

     

    @wallstreetcappers

     peace_5  an_worship    Of course!   Buy a home, raise a family, watch your INVESTMENT grow over the years, and GAIN a massive profit by downsizing at some point after the kids are gonzo!  This is routine!  ....OR..... remain there into retirement and eventually (upon passing) in your will leave the kids - who are already living elsewhere raising their own families by then - a  HUGE PROFIT  from the sale of your investment asset!!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2024 - 12:35 AM ET #57

    @Barbarossa

     Have you not been following the situation? Ukraine has been playing this game for a long time, it dates back longer than just the current situation. If you research the original province agreement it is quite clear that both sides understood that the actions of the granted province were contingent on not putting the larger union at risk and joining NATO or even considering it is a massive risk.

    Remember when the US took down Cuba? They were engaging with Russia and the potential risk of having Cuba being a missile launch location was enough that the US would have taken it over, how do you think Russia would respond in the same scenario? NATO bases on the western corner of Russia and having the necessary location to launch mid range missiles at any moment let alone invade from that area?

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    @Barbarossa

     Have you not been following the situation? Ukraine has been playing this game for a long time, it dates back longer than just the current situation. If you research the original province agreement it is quite clear that both sides understood that the actions of the granted province were contingent on not putting the larger union at risk and joining NATO or even considering it is a massive risk.

    Remember when the US took down Cuba? They were engaging with Russia and the potential risk of having Cuba being a missile launch location was enough that the US would have taken it over, how do you think Russia would respond in the same scenario? NATO bases on the western corner of Russia and having the necessary location to launch mid range missiles at any moment let alone invade from that area?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Barbarossa  Have you not been following the situation? Ukraine has been playing this game for a long time, it dates back longer than just the current situation. If you research the original province agreement it is quite clear that both sides understood that the actions of the granted province were contingent on not putting the larger union at risk and joining NATO or even considering it is a massive risk. Remember when the US took down Cuba? They were engaging with Russia and the potential risk of having Cuba being a missile launch location was enough that the US would have taken it over, how do you think Russia would respond in the same scenario? NATO bases on the western corner of Russia and having the necessary location to launch mid range missiles at any moment let alone invade from that area?

    i am very aware of the situation , i just do not see this as a threat as the US and Germany are opposed to it and will be 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Barbarossa  Have you not been following the situation? Ukraine has been playing this game for a long time, it dates back longer than just the current situation. If you research the original province agreement it is quite clear that both sides understood that the actions of the granted province were contingent on not putting the larger union at risk and joining NATO or even considering it is a massive risk. Remember when the US took down Cuba? They were engaging with Russia and the potential risk of having Cuba being a missile launch location was enough that the US would have taken it over, how do you think Russia would respond in the same scenario? NATO bases on the western corner of Russia and having the necessary location to launch mid range missiles at any moment let alone invade from that area?

    i am very aware of the situation , i just do not see this as a threat as the US and Germany are opposed to it and will be 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2024 - 7:42 AM ET #59

    Authoritarianism expert Ruth Ben Ghiat warns of Trump fascism.  Purpose of Trump warning of assassination attempts on his life is to conjure a threat environment to justify authoritarian actions.  Trump rallies radicalize followers so they will be ready to follow the leader to commit violence.  For example, January 6 attack on capitol.   

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    Authoritarianism expert Ruth Ben Ghiat warns of Trump fascism.  Purpose of Trump warning of assassination attempts on his life is to conjure a threat environment to justify authoritarian actions.  Trump rallies radicalize followers so they will be ready to follow the leader to commit violence.  For example, January 6 attack on capitol.   

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2024 - 9:02 AM ET #60

    @wallstreetcappers

     'Appreciation',  'value'  AND 'INVESTMENT' are all very different things when talking about houses that you LIVE in.

    The EXPERTS disagree with your false premise. 

    I pointed out that you ONLY realize it IF you sell and move.  THAT is not the intent when most people buy their home.  Then you have to move even if you do not want to move in order to 'realize' the appreciation.

    Go read what the experts say about it and why it is even a 'bad' investment if you look at it the way.

    Of course, you see it if you move.  That is a large part of the issue for the folks in FL and SC now.  The people from NJ or PA or CA are selling their homes and moving there.

    NOW -- WHAT do the folks in FL or SC do?  Now the houses are being priced out of their range -- in part because others had to MOVE to realize their 'appreciation' because they could not buy in their own area.

    This is not very complicated.

    But I understand you do not get it -- because like I said MOST people do not see this, unless it is your wheelhouse or something you have studied.

    People need to invest better in true investment vehicles.

    That is why I sent you the links from experts saying this very well.

    peace_5

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    @wallstreetcappers

     'Appreciation',  'value'  AND 'INVESTMENT' are all very different things when talking about houses that you LIVE in.

    The EXPERTS disagree with your false premise. 

    I pointed out that you ONLY realize it IF you sell and move.  THAT is not the intent when most people buy their home.  Then you have to move even if you do not want to move in order to 'realize' the appreciation.

    Go read what the experts say about it and why it is even a 'bad' investment if you look at it the way.

    Of course, you see it if you move.  That is a large part of the issue for the folks in FL and SC now.  The people from NJ or PA or CA are selling their homes and moving there.

    NOW -- WHAT do the folks in FL or SC do?  Now the houses are being priced out of their range -- in part because others had to MOVE to realize their 'appreciation' because they could not buy in their own area.

    This is not very complicated.

    But I understand you do not get it -- because like I said MOST people do not see this, unless it is your wheelhouse or something you have studied.

    People need to invest better in true investment vehicles.

    That is why I sent you the links from experts saying this very well.

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     https://www.yahoo.com/news/couple-moved-hawaii-colorado-lower-132701829.html

    This was in the headline this morning.  I did not read anything but the headline.

    But these are the very examples I am talking about.  It addresses both of your points.

    Houses are NOT an investment unless you sell AND usually move.

    I am sure these folks are not as gleeful as you are that the costs of housing has shot up the last few years.

    Now the house that they want is no longer affordable.  This is the case for many, many folks, increasingly in the last few years.

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     https://www.yahoo.com/news/couple-moved-hawaii-colorado-lower-132701829.html

    This was in the headline this morning.  I did not read anything but the headline.

    But these are the very examples I am talking about.  It addresses both of your points.

    Houses are NOT an investment unless you sell AND usually move.

    I am sure these folks are not as gleeful as you are that the costs of housing has shot up the last few years.

    Now the house that they want is no longer affordable.  This is the case for many, many folks, increasingly in the last few years.

    peace_5

     

     
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     Also, even if you take that part out of it.

    Your point that it was good for you that the cost of housing went up so much under Biden is the issue for other folks.

    How is that so good for folks that are trying to buy their first house or folks that plan to upgrade?

    THAT was the premise you brought up.

    Surely you can see their problem with the cost of housing.

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     Also, even if you take that part out of it.

    Your point that it was good for you that the cost of housing went up so much under Biden is the issue for other folks.

    How is that so good for folks that are trying to buy their first house or folks that plan to upgrade?

    THAT was the premise you brought up.

    Surely you can see their problem with the cost of housing.

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    @Rush51  So Hamas retorting on that festival and Israel running unstopped to destroy all not of their faith is Bidens fault?  Ukraine threatening to join NATO which goes against what they agreed upon is Bidens fault? Super logic here...

    Yes, anybody that's  paying attention knows that none of this happens unless Joe didn't advertise his weakness w the Afghanistan debacle... but he did it, then advertised that a minor Russian incursion might be ok,.. then became a news agency saying for sure Russia was going to invade.  Joe is for sure one of our weakest & worst presidents.   We all would've been much better if he just stayed home and played cribbage w his other senile friends. 

     

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    @Rush51  So Hamas retorting on that festival and Israel running unstopped to destroy all not of their faith is Bidens fault?  Ukraine threatening to join NATO which goes against what they agreed upon is Bidens fault? Super logic here...

    Yes, anybody that's  paying attention knows that none of this happens unless Joe didn't advertise his weakness w the Afghanistan debacle... but he did it, then advertised that a minor Russian incursion might be ok,.. then became a news agency saying for sure Russia was going to invade.  Joe is for sure one of our weakest & worst presidents.   We all would've been much better if he just stayed home and played cribbage w his other senile friends. 

     

     
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     So now Afghanistan has a part in why Hamas retaliated and then Israel has run amok in the region? Was the US the regional police agency and how would Hamas even think the US would step in to the region at all? What is our history as a country directly participating in a Israel conflict? These two groups (Israel and everyone not Israel) have been at odds for thousands of years, what is this lunacy that Biden has blame or fault for this very long and very deep hatred of each other?

    Ukraine has been toying with NATO for over a decade, not sure what that has to do with Biden either, but hey if someone wants to draw partisan correlation you can muster a narrative even if there is no truth to the concept.

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     So now Afghanistan has a part in why Hamas retaliated and then Israel has run amok in the region? Was the US the regional police agency and how would Hamas even think the US would step in to the region at all? What is our history as a country directly participating in a Israel conflict? These two groups (Israel and everyone not Israel) have been at odds for thousands of years, what is this lunacy that Biden has blame or fault for this very long and very deep hatred of each other?

    Ukraine has been toying with NATO for over a decade, not sure what that has to do with Biden either, but hey if someone wants to draw partisan correlation you can muster a narrative even if there is no truth to the concept.

     
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     I will not try and go back and forth with you and your pocket experts scheme again..the schtick of everyone is right and I am wrong here look at my links is very tired but you love it and use it.

    The terms are realized and unrealized appreciation/gain Raiders...there is no need to stipulate that there is not appreciation unless you take it, but you just go along with that narrative and that is just fine.

    The relative price of houses has never been reasonable, my first house as a young person seemed massive to me and then my next house was a multiple in price to the previous one and my current house is a multiple of the first and second one. My parents had to move to Calif when i was in high school and I remember that at the time the house they bought and we lived in was in Simi Valley and the cost was almost double what they sold their house for elsewhere, it seemed crazy expensive. Well that same house sells for 8-10x what that cost was when I was in high school. The UK has been dealing with extreme house prices much longer than the US and they have turned the dynamic into a completely different approach and maybe the US goes that route too down the road. Your pal experts have been complaining about house prices for 75 years and yet here we are..and as some of you TNC fans say maybe house ownership is not meant for all that not everyone can afford to pay a mortgage and need to find what works for them. These retorts are cream puffs even for you Raiders.

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     I will not try and go back and forth with you and your pocket experts scheme again..the schtick of everyone is right and I am wrong here look at my links is very tired but you love it and use it.

    The terms are realized and unrealized appreciation/gain Raiders...there is no need to stipulate that there is not appreciation unless you take it, but you just go along with that narrative and that is just fine.

    The relative price of houses has never been reasonable, my first house as a young person seemed massive to me and then my next house was a multiple in price to the previous one and my current house is a multiple of the first and second one. My parents had to move to Calif when i was in high school and I remember that at the time the house they bought and we lived in was in Simi Valley and the cost was almost double what they sold their house for elsewhere, it seemed crazy expensive. Well that same house sells for 8-10x what that cost was when I was in high school. The UK has been dealing with extreme house prices much longer than the US and they have turned the dynamic into a completely different approach and maybe the US goes that route too down the road. Your pal experts have been complaining about house prices for 75 years and yet here we are..and as some of you TNC fans say maybe house ownership is not meant for all that not everyone can afford to pay a mortgage and need to find what works for them. These retorts are cream puffs even for you Raiders.

     
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    I did ! I sold my primary in Wall NJ and moved south to over 55 community in Forked River Nj & a wonderful place in Little River SC…which has 80% population of northeaster carpetbaggers ! My HOA is more than my property taxes an_eek2 When I ask my neighbors if they feel guilty in regards to taxes and the lack of good  public education down there, They reply by asking me if I’m a democrats ! an_roll_laugh

     

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    I did ! I sold my primary in Wall NJ and moved south to over 55 community in Forked River Nj & a wonderful place in Little River SC…which has 80% population of northeaster carpetbaggers ! My HOA is more than my property taxes an_eek2 When I ask my neighbors if they feel guilty in regards to taxes and the lack of good  public education down there, They reply by asking me if I’m a democrats ! an_roll_laugh

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Raiders22  I will not try and go back and forth with you and your pocket experts scheme again..the schtick of everyone is right and I am wrong here look at my links is very tired but you love it and use it. The terms are realized and unrealized appreciation/gain Raiders...there is no need to stipulate that there is not appreciation unless you take it, but you just go along with that narrative and that is just fine. The relative price of houses has never been reasonable, my first house as a young person seemed massive to me and then my next house was a multiple in price to the previous one and my current house is a multiple of the first and second one. My parents had to move to Calif when i was in high school and I remember that at the time the house they bought and we lived in was in Simi Valley and the cost was almost double what they sold their house for elsewhere, it seemed crazy expensive. Well that same house sells for 8-10x what that cost was when I was in high school. The UK has been dealing with extreme house prices much longer than the US and they have turned the dynamic into a completely different approach and maybe the US goes that route too down the road. Your pal experts have been complaining about house prices for 75 years and yet here we are..and as some of you TNC fans say maybe house ownership is not meant for all that not everyone can afford to pay a mortgage and need to find what works for them. These retorts are cream puffs even for you Raiders.

    Yes, keep thinking you are right and all of the many experts are wrong.

    Then swerve away when proven wrong, yet again.

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Raiders22  I will not try and go back and forth with you and your pocket experts scheme again..the schtick of everyone is right and I am wrong here look at my links is very tired but you love it and use it. The terms are realized and unrealized appreciation/gain Raiders...there is no need to stipulate that there is not appreciation unless you take it, but you just go along with that narrative and that is just fine. The relative price of houses has never been reasonable, my first house as a young person seemed massive to me and then my next house was a multiple in price to the previous one and my current house is a multiple of the first and second one. My parents had to move to Calif when i was in high school and I remember that at the time the house they bought and we lived in was in Simi Valley and the cost was almost double what they sold their house for elsewhere, it seemed crazy expensive. Well that same house sells for 8-10x what that cost was when I was in high school. The UK has been dealing with extreme house prices much longer than the US and they have turned the dynamic into a completely different approach and maybe the US goes that route too down the road. Your pal experts have been complaining about house prices for 75 years and yet here we are..and as some of you TNC fans say maybe house ownership is not meant for all that not everyone can afford to pay a mortgage and need to find what works for them. These retorts are cream puffs even for you Raiders.

    Yes, keep thinking you are right and all of the many experts are wrong.

    Then swerve away when proven wrong, yet again.

    peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @Raiders22 I did ! I sold my primary in Wall NJ and moved south to over 55 community in Forked River Nj & a wonderful place in Little River SC…which has 80% population of northeaster carpetbaggers ! My HOA is more than my property taxes  When I ask my neighbors if they feel guilty in regards to taxes and the lack of good  public education down there, They reply by asking me if I’m a democrats !

    Nice! an_cheers

    For sure better weather in the winter in SC.  Just have to dodge the hurricanes from time to time.

    I know both areas fairly well.  At least you are still on the coast.  So, great seafood always.  Certainly a lot of folks retiring there.

    I hope you enjoy it!

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @Raiders22 I did ! I sold my primary in Wall NJ and moved south to over 55 community in Forked River Nj & a wonderful place in Little River SC…which has 80% population of northeaster carpetbaggers ! My HOA is more than my property taxes  When I ask my neighbors if they feel guilty in regards to taxes and the lack of good  public education down there, They reply by asking me if I’m a democrats !

    Nice! an_cheers

    For sure better weather in the winter in SC.  Just have to dodge the hurricanes from time to time.

    I know both areas fairly well.  At least you are still on the coast.  So, great seafood always.  Certainly a lot of folks retiring there.

    I hope you enjoy it!

    peace_5

     
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    Housing inflation rate under Trump never was over 3% --  2.97%, 2.89%, 2.89%

     

    Housing inflation rate under Biden has never been under 3% -- 3.29%, 7.15%, 6.44%

    Pretty much the highest inflation rate in 45 years.

     

    Like they say: words speak; numbers scream.

    That is why it is not a good thing for the folks that are younger or folks that are looking to upgrade.

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    Housing inflation rate under Trump never was over 3% --  2.97%, 2.89%, 2.89%

     

    Housing inflation rate under Biden has never been under 3% -- 3.29%, 7.15%, 6.44%

    Pretty much the highest inflation rate in 45 years.

     

    Like they say: words speak; numbers scream.

    That is why it is not a good thing for the folks that are younger or folks that are looking to upgrade.

    an_cheers

     
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     Good thing people are not like you and sweating housing inflation, my parents would never have purchased a house using this logic and I would not have stepped up to my current house using this logic.

    Yeah I will keep thinking in my way and I dont care about partisan biased pocket experts, you keep reading and copy/pasting someone elses comments to make your own points, it is almost like you have no other means to retort or defend than to say someone else is smarter than me..

    an_roll_laugh

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     Good thing people are not like you and sweating housing inflation, my parents would never have purchased a house using this logic and I would not have stepped up to my current house using this logic.

    Yeah I will keep thinking in my way and I dont care about partisan biased pocket experts, you keep reading and copy/pasting someone elses comments to make your own points, it is almost like you have no other means to retort or defend than to say someone else is smarter than me..

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    @BWS77  No where in that clip did Trump threaten mass arrests of his rivals. Same ol'around here. Guys just make up splashy headlines with no actual substance behind them. Sundance gets boxed for these kinds of shenanigans.

    Sorry, that was the one where he threatens to use the United States Military against people he doesn't like...   As I said, the clip of him talking about going after the lawyers, people, etc is in another video that I watched but honestly I don't feel like sifting through all the shit again as I choose to spend my time doing something better.   

     

    PS, Sundance gets boxed for pushing crazy conspiracy bullshit and constant nut hugging.  Please do not confuse he and I.  I'm not even convinced he is a real human person tbh.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    @BWS77  No where in that clip did Trump threaten mass arrests of his rivals. Same ol'around here. Guys just make up splashy headlines with no actual substance behind them. Sundance gets boxed for these kinds of shenanigans.

    Sorry, that was the one where he threatens to use the United States Military against people he doesn't like...   As I said, the clip of him talking about going after the lawyers, people, etc is in another video that I watched but honestly I don't feel like sifting through all the shit again as I choose to spend my time doing something better.   

     

    PS, Sundance gets boxed for pushing crazy conspiracy bullshit and constant nut hugging.  Please do not confuse he and I.  I'm not even convinced he is a real human person tbh.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Raiders22    Good thing people are not like you and sweating housing inflation, my parents would never have purchased a house using this logic and I would not have stepped up to my current house using this logic. Yeah I will keep thinking in my way and I dont care about partisan biased pocket experts, you keep reading and copy/pasting someone elses comments to make your own points, it is almost like you have no other means to retort or defend than to say someone else is smarter than me..

    People are.

    an_roll_laugh

    That is the whole reason for pointing it out.

    Try to stay caught up.confused

    They cannot buy them now like when your parents could. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Raiders22    Good thing people are not like you and sweating housing inflation, my parents would never have purchased a house using this logic and I would not have stepped up to my current house using this logic. Yeah I will keep thinking in my way and I dont care about partisan biased pocket experts, you keep reading and copy/pasting someone elses comments to make your own points, it is almost like you have no other means to retort or defend than to say someone else is smarter than me..

    People are.

    an_roll_laugh

    That is the whole reason for pointing it out.

    Try to stay caught up.confused

    They cannot buy them now like when your parents could. 

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     My advice to you is if you ever get a financial advisor and he tells you to use your house as an investment: RUN.

    No wealth advisor or financial advisor should ever be telling folks to look at their house as an investment.

    peace_5

    But you keep NOT listening to experts.  But PLEASE do NOT advise others this way.

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     My advice to you is if you ever get a financial advisor and he tells you to use your house as an investment: RUN.

    No wealth advisor or financial advisor should ever be telling folks to look at their house as an investment.

    peace_5

    But you keep NOT listening to experts.  But PLEASE do NOT advise others this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Raiders22  I will not try and go back and forth with you and your pocket experts scheme again..the schtick of everyone is right and I am wrong here look at my links is very tired but you love it and use it. The terms are realized and unrealized appreciation/gain Raiders...there is no need to stipulate that there is not appreciation unless you take it, but you just go along with that narrative and that is just fine. The relative price of houses has never been reasonable, my first house as a young person seemed massive to me and then my next house was a multiple in price to the previous one and my current house is a multiple of the first and second one. My parents had to move to Calif when i was in high school and I remember that at the time the house they bought and we lived in was in Simi Valley and the cost was almost double what they sold their house for elsewhere, it seemed crazy expensive. Well that same house sells for 8-10x what that cost was when I was in high school. The UK has been dealing with extreme house prices much longer than the US and they have turned the dynamic into a completely different approach and maybe the US goes that route too down the road. Your pal experts have been complaining about house prices for 75 years and yet here we are..and as some of you TNC fans say maybe house ownership is not meant for all that not everyone can afford to pay a mortgage and need to find what works for them. These retorts are cream puffs even for you Raiders.

    peace_5   an_clap

     

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    @Raiders22  I will not try and go back and forth with you and your pocket experts scheme again..the schtick of everyone is right and I am wrong here look at my links is very tired but you love it and use it. The terms are realized and unrealized appreciation/gain Raiders...there is no need to stipulate that there is not appreciation unless you take it, but you just go along with that narrative and that is just fine. The relative price of houses has never been reasonable, my first house as a young person seemed massive to me and then my next house was a multiple in price to the previous one and my current house is a multiple of the first and second one. My parents had to move to Calif when i was in high school and I remember that at the time the house they bought and we lived in was in Simi Valley and the cost was almost double what they sold their house for elsewhere, it seemed crazy expensive. Well that same house sells for 8-10x what that cost was when I was in high school. The UK has been dealing with extreme house prices much longer than the US and they have turned the dynamic into a completely different approach and maybe the US goes that route too down the road. Your pal experts have been complaining about house prices for 75 years and yet here we are..and as some of you TNC fans say maybe house ownership is not meant for all that not everyone can afford to pay a mortgage and need to find what works for them. These retorts are cream puffs even for you Raiders.

    peace_5   an_clap

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @Raiders22 I did ! I sold my primary in Wall NJ and moved south to over 55 community in Forked River Nj & a wonderful place in Little River SC…which has 80% population of northeaster carpetbaggers ! My HOA is more than my property taxes  When I ask my neighbors if they feel guilty in regards to taxes and the lack of good  public education down there, They reply by asking me if I’m a democrats !

    Love SC!  Well done!  an_cheers

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @Raiders22 I did ! I sold my primary in Wall NJ and moved south to over 55 community in Forked River Nj & a wonderful place in Little River SC…which has 80% population of northeaster carpetbaggers ! My HOA is more than my property taxes  When I ask my neighbors if they feel guilty in regards to taxes and the lack of good  public education down there, They reply by asking me if I’m a democrats !

    Love SC!  Well done!  an_cheers

     

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