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    Posted: May. 30, 2025 - 11:15 PM ET #526

    Once the birds start singing ... it will get epic ...

    watch out for Project Veritas , they caught your future  DEM Hopeful David Hogg talking a bit too much , like in example that it was not Joe Biden 

    who ran the White House , and the involvement of "Doctor" Jill Biden 

     

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    Once the birds start singing ... it will get epic ...

    watch out for Project Veritas , they caught your future  DEM Hopeful David Hogg talking a bit too much , like in example that it was not Joe Biden 

    who ran the White House , and the involvement of "Doctor" Jill Biden 

     

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2025 - 1:07 AM ET #527

       Some numbers from the early look at April.  This is the best 4 month start to any year we have had in decades on record.

       The numbers are so phenomenal the media cannot even spin the numbers.

       Brand new economic indicators show inflation is down, incomes are up, and the trade deficit is narrowing.  All shattering economist’s expectations, once again.

       Inflation slipped to 2.1% in April, lower than expected.  They were expecting 2.3% to 2.4%.

    Basically, President Trump has brought prices down like he promised.

       But the kicker is that income is up.  Personal income increased by .8% in April, almost triple the expectations.

       These are powerful numbers.  Up .6% in January, up .7% in February, up .5% in March, and now up .8%.

       A great start for Trump’s first 120 days.

    Even CNBC says that the numbers for the first four months are stellar and ‘why don’t we give credit where credit is due, income is shooting up because President Trump is creating good paying jobs with these tariffs.”

       Now the trade deficit has narrowed.  This was the largest monthly decline on record.  Not in 20 years, not in 30 years, not in 50 years, but ever.  Pretty much cut it in half.

       CNBC, again, “this really does underscore how the movement of goods and services are really changed due to all of the Trump tariffs.”

    This is what the courts are trying to stop:  American progress, prosperity, income up, inflation down, trade deficit down, money coming in.  And you have these Liberal judges trying to determine what the foreign policy and tax policy is.  Unbelievable.

       Trump’s economy—booming.

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       Some numbers from the early look at April.  This is the best 4 month start to any year we have had in decades on record.

       The numbers are so phenomenal the media cannot even spin the numbers.

       Brand new economic indicators show inflation is down, incomes are up, and the trade deficit is narrowing.  All shattering economist’s expectations, once again.

       Inflation slipped to 2.1% in April, lower than expected.  They were expecting 2.3% to 2.4%.

    Basically, President Trump has brought prices down like he promised.

       But the kicker is that income is up.  Personal income increased by .8% in April, almost triple the expectations.

       These are powerful numbers.  Up .6% in January, up .7% in February, up .5% in March, and now up .8%.

       A great start for Trump’s first 120 days.

    Even CNBC says that the numbers for the first four months are stellar and ‘why don’t we give credit where credit is due, income is shooting up because President Trump is creating good paying jobs with these tariffs.”

       Now the trade deficit has narrowed.  This was the largest monthly decline on record.  Not in 20 years, not in 30 years, not in 50 years, but ever.  Pretty much cut it in half.

       CNBC, again, “this really does underscore how the movement of goods and services are really changed due to all of the Trump tariffs.”

    This is what the courts are trying to stop:  American progress, prosperity, income up, inflation down, trade deficit down, money coming in.  And you have these Liberal judges trying to determine what the foreign policy and tax policy is.  Unbelievable.

       Trump’s economy—booming.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2025 - 4:26 AM ET #528

    Quote Originally Posted by rookie711:

    When Joe is long gone the truth will come out like it always does. No president in my life time has lied more often then Biden and it isn't even close.  Trump will be a top 3 president when he is finished and Biden will go down as one of the top 3 worst/most corrupt presidents.

    The truth already came out.  In different surveys of historians, Biden usually rank above average and Trump near the bottom among presidents.  No surprise Trump ranks as the worst in integrity.  Washington post tracker records over 3000 lies in his first term.  American political science association rates the twice impeached convicted felon as the most corrupt president in US history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rookie711:

    When Joe is long gone the truth will come out like it always does. No president in my life time has lied more often then Biden and it isn't even close.  Trump will be a top 3 president when he is finished and Biden will go down as one of the top 3 worst/most corrupt presidents.

    The truth already came out.  In different surveys of historians, Biden usually rank above average and Trump near the bottom among presidents.  No surprise Trump ranks as the worst in integrity.  Washington post tracker records over 3000 lies in his first term.  American political science association rates the twice impeached convicted felon as the most corrupt president in US history.

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2025 - 5:27 AM ET #529

    Pro Trump ads overstate his second term economic record.  As in first term, he is lucky to inherit strong economy from democrat presidents.  In short 4 months, he didn't fix US economy which remains resilient.  However that is unlikely to last because of his bad policies.  Consumer and business expectations about future economy health are at 12 years low.  As in first term, economists expect economy to eventually worsen if Trump bad policies are fully implemented.  

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    Pro Trump ads overstate his second term economic record.  As in first term, he is lucky to inherit strong economy from democrat presidents.  In short 4 months, he didn't fix US economy which remains resilient.  However that is unlikely to last because of his bad policies.  Consumer and business expectations about future economy health are at 12 years low.  As in first term, economists expect economy to eventually worsen if Trump bad policies are fully implemented.  

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2025 - 2:12 PM ET #530

    Its amazing how many people dont get trade deficits

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    Its amazing how many people dont get trade deficits

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2025 - 3:13 PM ET #531

    Quote Originally Posted by rookie711:

    @Midnight1  I knew you would go to his book deals...by you not admitting he and his family got paid off from other countries tells me all I need to know about you. By you thinking the election was fair also tells me all I need to know about you. When Joe is long gone the truth will come out like it always does. No president in my life time has lied more often then Biden and it isn't even close. Just think about all of those stories he tells about himself which are PROVEN to be false. And once again if you think otherwise it tells me all I need to know about you. You can all print this and you can forget all of these current fake pools, Trump will be a top 3 president when he is finished and Biden will go down as one of the top 3 worst/most corrupt presidents. Once the dust settles and most likely after they have both passed the truth will come out.  We can go back and forth all day. I guess we just see what we want to see. Only time will tell but I like my chances.
    Biden is already considered, almost unanimously, the worst POTUS ever. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by rookie711:

    @Midnight1  I knew you would go to his book deals...by you not admitting he and his family got paid off from other countries tells me all I need to know about you. By you thinking the election was fair also tells me all I need to know about you. When Joe is long gone the truth will come out like it always does. No president in my life time has lied more often then Biden and it isn't even close. Just think about all of those stories he tells about himself which are PROVEN to be false. And once again if you think otherwise it tells me all I need to know about you. You can all print this and you can forget all of these current fake pools, Trump will be a top 3 president when he is finished and Biden will go down as one of the top 3 worst/most corrupt presidents. Once the dust settles and most likely after they have both passed the truth will come out.  We can go back and forth all day. I guess we just see what we want to see. Only time will tell but I like my chances.
    Biden is already considered, almost unanimously, the worst POTUS ever. peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2025 - 10:06 PM ET #532

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by rookie711: @Midnight1  I knew you would go to his book deals...by you not admitting he and his family got paid off from other countries tells me all I need to know about you. By you thinking the election was fair also tells me all I need to know about you. When Joe is long gone the truth will come out like it always does. No president in my life time has lied more often then Biden and it isn't even close. Just think about all of those stories he tells about himself which are PROVEN to be false. And once again if you think otherwise it tells me all I need to know about you. You can all print this and you can forget all of these current fake pools, Trump will be a top 3 president when he is finished and Biden will go down as one of the top 3 worst/most corrupt presidents. Once the dust settles and most likely after they have both passed the truth will come out.  We can go back and forth all day. I guess we just see what we want to see. Only time will tell but I like my chances.Biden is already considered, almost unanimously, the worst POTUS ever.

    Considered by who? You???

    Can you share a poll or two proving your statement?

    I won't bother waiting because it's total bullshit!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by rookie711: @Midnight1  I knew you would go to his book deals...by you not admitting he and his family got paid off from other countries tells me all I need to know about you. By you thinking the election was fair also tells me all I need to know about you. When Joe is long gone the truth will come out like it always does. No president in my life time has lied more often then Biden and it isn't even close. Just think about all of those stories he tells about himself which are PROVEN to be false. And once again if you think otherwise it tells me all I need to know about you. You can all print this and you can forget all of these current fake pools, Trump will be a top 3 president when he is finished and Biden will go down as one of the top 3 worst/most corrupt presidents. Once the dust settles and most likely after they have both passed the truth will come out.  We can go back and forth all day. I guess we just see what we want to see. Only time will tell but I like my chances.Biden is already considered, almost unanimously, the worst POTUS ever.

    Considered by who? You???

    Can you share a poll or two proving your statement?

    I won't bother waiting because it's total bullshit!

     

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2025 - 10:13 PM ET #533

    These will at least get you started in the right direction about how folks see/saw Biden toward the very end, even overseas:

     

    https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/devastating-poll-finds-that-americans-rate-biden-as-the-worst-president-since-richard-nixon/

     

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/654878/americans-think-history-rate-biden-presidency-negatively.aspx

     

    https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/houston-texas-news/content/2025-01-09-poll-biden-viewed-as-second-worst-president-in-history/

     

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14162187/joe-biden-nixon-trump-rating-president.html

     

    https://rollingout.com/2024/12/06/biden-is-voted-the-worst-president-in-american-history-see-where-trump-ranks/

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    These will at least get you started in the right direction about how folks see/saw Biden toward the very end, even overseas:

     

    https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/devastating-poll-finds-that-americans-rate-biden-as-the-worst-president-since-richard-nixon/

     

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/654878/americans-think-history-rate-biden-presidency-negatively.aspx

     

    https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/houston-texas-news/content/2025-01-09-poll-biden-viewed-as-second-worst-president-in-history/

     

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14162187/joe-biden-nixon-trump-rating-president.html

     

    https://rollingout.com/2024/12/06/biden-is-voted-the-worst-president-in-american-history-see-where-trump-ranks/

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2025 - 10:18 PM ET #534

    Voters have delivered a devastating verdict on Joe Biden's time in office, branding him the worst president in almost 50 years.

    An exclusive Daily Mail poll found Biden was less impressive than Jimmy Carter, who was voted out after a single term after presiding over double-digit inflation and a botched effort to rescue American hostages in Iran.

    The poll result also makes him worse in voters' minds than Richard Nixon, who forced to resign rather than face impeachment over the devastating Watergate scandal. 

    When you are rated behind Nixon and Carter, that is a strong indictment.  Because those are the two that each party considers the other’s worst, generally speaking. 

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    Voters have delivered a devastating verdict on Joe Biden's time in office, branding him the worst president in almost 50 years.

    An exclusive Daily Mail poll found Biden was less impressive than Jimmy Carter, who was voted out after a single term after presiding over double-digit inflation and a botched effort to rescue American hostages in Iran.

    The poll result also makes him worse in voters' minds than Richard Nixon, who forced to resign rather than face impeachment over the devastating Watergate scandal. 

    When you are rated behind Nixon and Carter, that is a strong indictment.  Because those are the two that each party considers the other’s worst, generally speaking. 

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2025 - 10:42 PM ET #535

    You don’t have to like Biden to hate Trump - but I would be VERY surprised if Biden was considered among your worst presidents by the international community (so surprised I would consider that vote bullshit actually) - Biden was more or less invisible internationally - I don’t think most people here could mention 3 things about the guy - neither good nor bad - No joke we have heard more about Trump the first month in office than we did Biden his entire time in office 

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    You don’t have to like Biden to hate Trump - but I would be VERY surprised if Biden was considered among your worst presidents by the international community (so surprised I would consider that vote bullshit actually) - Biden was more or less invisible internationally - I don’t think most people here could mention 3 things about the guy - neither good nor bad - No joke we have heard more about Trump the first month in office than we did Biden his entire time in office 

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2025 - 10:52 PM ET #536

    I think most people think Trump just took a dump for 4 years and tried reading up on tariffs (still hasn’t understood them)  - but has lead your country for 9 years by now 

     

    Just like Carter you mention - never heard of the guy in my life

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    I think most people think Trump just took a dump for 4 years and tried reading up on tariffs (still hasn’t understood them)  - but has lead your country for 9 years by now 

     

    Just like Carter you mention - never heard of the guy in my life

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Voters have delivered a devastating verdict on Joe Biden's time in office, branding him the worst president in almost 50 years.An exclusive Daily Mail poll found Biden was less impressive than Jimmy Carter, who was voted out after a single term after presiding over double-digit inflation and a botched effort to rescue American hostages in Iran. The poll result also makes him worse in voters' minds than Richard Nixon, who forced to resign rather than face impeachment over the devastating Watergate scandal.  When you are rated behind Nixon and Carter, that is a strong indictment.  Because those are the two that each party considers the other’s worst, generally speaking.
    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Voters have delivered a devastating verdict on Joe Biden's time in office, branding him the worst president in almost 50 years.An exclusive Daily Mail poll found Biden was less impressive than Jimmy Carter, who was voted out after a single term after presiding over double-digit inflation and a botched effort to rescue American hostages in Iran. The poll result also makes him worse in voters' minds than Richard Nixon, who forced to resign rather than face impeachment over the devastating Watergate scandal.  When you are rated behind Nixon and Carter, that is a strong indictment.  Because those are the two that each party considers the other’s worst, generally speaking.
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    Trump himself stated this is Bidens economy! He said this right after the liberation tariffs were announced and the market tanked! Maybe you were on vacation and didn’t notice? I like to think of this 2025, Trump economy as the yo-yo economy because it changes every 48 to 72 hours, in the last 24 hrs he Doubled steel tariffs from 25% to 50%, You tell me how do businesses plan with this leadership?

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    Trump himself stated this is Bidens economy! He said this right after the liberation tariffs were announced and the market tanked! Maybe you were on vacation and didn’t notice? I like to think of this 2025, Trump economy as the yo-yo economy because it changes every 48 to 72 hours, in the last 24 hrs he Doubled steel tariffs from 25% to 50%, You tell me how do businesses plan with this leadership?

     
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    2024 Survey of Presidential historians and poli-sci experts . . .

     

    Presidential Greatness Project Experts Survey

     

          an_light As ranked by ***MODERATES***

                 *Only the recent 10 Presidents in our lifetime shown


     9    Barack Obama!!!  an_clap
    11   Ronald Reagan
    12   Bill Clinton!!!
    16   George H.W. Bush
    20  Joe Biden!!!  <------- an_2drinks


    26   Jimmy Cater   
    27   Gerald Ford
    30   George W. Bush
    35   Richard Nixon

     

     

      ~ huge gap ~ surprised

     

     

    46  donald "the convicted felon" trump <--- WORST! thejester

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    2024 Survey of Presidential historians and poli-sci experts . . .

     

    Presidential Greatness Project Experts Survey

     

          an_light As ranked by ***MODERATES***

                 *Only the recent 10 Presidents in our lifetime shown


     9    Barack Obama!!!  an_clap
    11   Ronald Reagan
    12   Bill Clinton!!!
    16   George H.W. Bush
    20  Joe Biden!!!  <------- an_2drinks


    26   Jimmy Cater   
    27   Gerald Ford
    30   George W. Bush
    35   Richard Nixon

     

     

      ~ huge gap ~ surprised

     

     

    46  donald "the convicted felon" trump <--- WORST! thejester

     
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    Not sure how anyone on either side can say that Trump OR Biden are good leaders, both are awful. For me when it comes down to the choice as I have said many times I will accept that politicians are paid morons who are not interested in being fiscally responsible and both parties, all politicians will spend to keep their jobs and pay their owners which are corps and pacs. I choose social spend for the least in society versus the opposite. Biden and most DEM politician will spend on social programs as their objective and we saw that for Bidens lousy term and Obamas terms. Now we already knew Trumps agenda was project 2025 and to fund defense contracts and the military, to spend on deporting any non-white group and to discriminate in the dominant white male segment he has done his entire life and that is what he has done and did in the prior term. Trump will give to the wealthy through tax benefits, tax holidays, freebies and cash to defense contractors. I do not choose this spend and thus since these are the only choices I have to go with the social spend and its flaws over the white male corporate project 2025 spend.

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    Not sure how anyone on either side can say that Trump OR Biden are good leaders, both are awful. For me when it comes down to the choice as I have said many times I will accept that politicians are paid morons who are not interested in being fiscally responsible and both parties, all politicians will spend to keep their jobs and pay their owners which are corps and pacs. I choose social spend for the least in society versus the opposite. Biden and most DEM politician will spend on social programs as their objective and we saw that for Bidens lousy term and Obamas terms. Now we already knew Trumps agenda was project 2025 and to fund defense contracts and the military, to spend on deporting any non-white group and to discriminate in the dominant white male segment he has done his entire life and that is what he has done and did in the prior term. Trump will give to the wealthy through tax benefits, tax holidays, freebies and cash to defense contractors. I do not choose this spend and thus since these are the only choices I have to go with the social spend and its flaws over the white male corporate project 2025 spend.

     
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     This is exactly what most news media stations say and do. I'm not even going to agree or disagree with your points because it would just be my opinion just like what you stated is your opinion. But WHY do you have to go to racism every single time??? Yes they are non whites getting deported because they are non whites that are here illegally. If they were whites here illegally and getting deported this would not even be mentioned. It's a total joke and the biggest reason why racism will never end. The democratic party will not allow it too. It is getting extremely old and the black community is on to it. The republicans have done far more for minorities then the dems period. Dems just use their name for power and to create unease and division in this country. Just look at many of the characters that are the face of the democratic party spreading this same racism message. This is exactly why the republican party is growing like no other time in history. 

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     This is exactly what most news media stations say and do. I'm not even going to agree or disagree with your points because it would just be my opinion just like what you stated is your opinion. But WHY do you have to go to racism every single time??? Yes they are non whites getting deported because they are non whites that are here illegally. If they were whites here illegally and getting deported this would not even be mentioned. It's a total joke and the biggest reason why racism will never end. The democratic party will not allow it too. It is getting extremely old and the black community is on to it. The republicans have done far more for minorities then the dems period. Dems just use their name for power and to create unease and division in this country. Just look at many of the characters that are the face of the democratic party spreading this same racism message. This is exactly why the republican party is growing like no other time in history. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Voters have delivered a devastating verdict on Joe Biden's time in office, branding him the worst president in almost 50 years.An exclusive Daily Mail poll found Biden was less impressive than Jimmy Carter,

    Daily mail is an untrustworthy source that publish fake news from United kingdom according to Media bias fact check.  In judging presidents, the most credible surveys have many experts ranking all presidents in multiple categories. For examples, C-span survey of presidential experts and Siena college survey of scholars.   If election results are the criteria, Biden is far from being the worst president.  In 2020, Biden received the most votes ever cast for a presidential candidate in US history.  Trump victory over Harris (Biden replacement) is among the most narrow margin ever in popular vote.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Voters have delivered a devastating verdict on Joe Biden's time in office, branding him the worst president in almost 50 years.An exclusive Daily Mail poll found Biden was less impressive than Jimmy Carter,

    Daily mail is an untrustworthy source that publish fake news from United kingdom according to Media bias fact check.  In judging presidents, the most credible surveys have many experts ranking all presidents in multiple categories. For examples, C-span survey of presidential experts and Siena college survey of scholars.   If election results are the criteria, Biden is far from being the worst president.  In 2020, Biden received the most votes ever cast for a presidential candidate in US history.  Trump victory over Harris (Biden replacement) is among the most narrow margin ever in popular vote.  

     
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     Because his actions prove my contention, nothing else. I do not follow any mainstream media I make  my own conclusions from decisions and actions he forwards. He is forwarding project 2025 narratives every single day and that narrative is white male Christian religious agenda. I am Christian but I do not feel it is to be forwarded into society, religion is meant for your home or worship location not in schools or politics. I look at the people he surrounds himself with and the decisions he makes, nothing else. Trump is racist even though he might not be a blatant extremist racist I do think he is discriminatory against almost anything non-white male and his agenda and cabinet and choices prove this.

    White male Christian is a minority in this country but his actions and choices do not follow statistics nor does his past and his mouth is likely his biggest problem to his detriment. 

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     Because his actions prove my contention, nothing else. I do not follow any mainstream media I make  my own conclusions from decisions and actions he forwards. He is forwarding project 2025 narratives every single day and that narrative is white male Christian religious agenda. I am Christian but I do not feel it is to be forwarded into society, religion is meant for your home or worship location not in schools or politics. I look at the people he surrounds himself with and the decisions he makes, nothing else. Trump is racist even though he might not be a blatant extremist racist I do think he is discriminatory against almost anything non-white male and his agenda and cabinet and choices prove this.

    White male Christian is a minority in this country but his actions and choices do not follow statistics nor does his past and his mouth is likely his biggest problem to his detriment. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    2024 Survey of Presidential historians and poli-sci experts . . .   Presidential Greatness Project Experts Survey         As ranked by ***MODERATES***              *Only the recent 10 Presidents in our lifetime shown  9    Barack Obama!!!  11   Ronald Reagan12   Bill Clinton!!!16   George H.W. Bush20  Joe Biden!!!  <------- 26   Jimmy Cater    27   Gerald Ford30   George W. Bush35   Richard Nixon       ~ huge gap ~     46  donald "the convicted felon" trump <--- WORST!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    2024 Survey of Presidential historians and poli-sci experts . . .   Presidential Greatness Project Experts Survey         As ranked by ***MODERATES***              *Only the recent 10 Presidents in our lifetime shown  9    Barack Obama!!!  11   Ronald Reagan12   Bill Clinton!!!16   George H.W. Bush20  Joe Biden!!!  <------- 26   Jimmy Cater    27   Gerald Ford30   George W. Bush35   Richard Nixon       ~ huge gap ~     46  donald "the convicted felon" trump <--- WORST!
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     Daily Mail??? That's the source you cite??

    Bwahahaha

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     Daily Mail??? That's the source you cite??

    Bwahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @Raiders22 Trump himself stated this is Bidens economy! He said this right after the liberation tariffs were announced and the market tanked! Maybe you were on vacation and didn’t notice? I like to think of this 2025, Trump economy as the yo-yo economy because it changes every 48 to 72 hours, in the last 24 hrs he Doubled steel tariffs from 25% to 50%, You tell me how do businesses plan with this leadership?

    Yessir.  He was correct.  But the things that he has done to turn the economy around since taking over is fairly amazing.  I would say pretty soon it will be just his economy.  He still has to get some things done to ‘undo’ some of Biden’s policies.  But I think he has made a sincere effort to do that. 
    But he has to get more things done before the midterms certainly.
    I would not tie the ‘markets’ being over-reactionary on a very short term directly to the economy and its performance as a whole.

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @Raiders22 Trump himself stated this is Bidens economy! He said this right after the liberation tariffs were announced and the market tanked! Maybe you were on vacation and didn’t notice? I like to think of this 2025, Trump economy as the yo-yo economy because it changes every 48 to 72 hours, in the last 24 hrs he Doubled steel tariffs from 25% to 50%, You tell me how do businesses plan with this leadership?

    Yessir.  He was correct.  But the things that he has done to turn the economy around since taking over is fairly amazing.  I would say pretty soon it will be just his economy.  He still has to get some things done to ‘undo’ some of Biden’s policies.  But I think he has made a sincere effort to do that. 
    But he has to get more things done before the midterms certainly.
    I would not tie the ‘markets’ being over-reactionary on a very short term directly to the economy and its performance as a whole.

    peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @Raiders22  Daily Mail??? That's the source you cite?? Bwahahaha


    Among others, sure.  They are apt to do a poll or report someone else’s poll just as well as anyone else can do.  
    It is far better than polling historians that clearly have a bias and an agenda. 
    There are so many other sources that reported on this that one source you do not approve of should not matter.  
    The numbers are what the numbers are at this point.  They certainly can change as time goes by. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @Raiders22  Daily Mail??? That's the source you cite?? Bwahahaha


    Among others, sure.  They are apt to do a poll or report someone else’s poll just as well as anyone else can do.  
    It is far better than polling historians that clearly have a bias and an agenda. 
    There are so many other sources that reported on this that one source you do not approve of should not matter.  
    The numbers are what the numbers are at this point.  They certainly can change as time goes by. 
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     Do you believe President Biden is our worst in history?

     

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     Do you believe President Biden is our worst in history?

     

     
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    It is not the only European, Australian, or South American situation showing this.  In other words, it is not just the folks in the USA that are saying this.  
    For example, look at the recent Insider Advantage poll among Hispanics. 
    In one month, Trump’s approval rating has gone up 20%.  They cite his job performance as why they support him so much more.  This is in spite of his illegal immigration policies. 

    Certainly the numbers may go up or down through the term as things change.  But the fact is that reasonable people there see it, as do folks around the world. 
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    It is not the only European, Australian, or South American situation showing this.  In other words, it is not just the folks in the USA that are saying this.  
    For example, look at the recent Insider Advantage poll among Hispanics. 
    In one month, Trump’s approval rating has gone up 20%.  They cite his job performance as why they support him so much more.  This is in spite of his illegal immigration policies. 

    Certainly the numbers may go up or down through the term as things change.  But the fact is that reasonable people there see it, as do folks around the world. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @Raiders22  Do you believe President Biden is our worst in history?

    I, for sure, have him in the bottom 5.

     
    I think you have to wait a few years to give a total assessment.  
    I also have to give him somewhat of a break because he was obviously deteriorating the whole time he was in office.  
    I think his administration is one of the worst and his is one of 3-4 that you have to almost separate administration and presidency because of the issues he had with his ability to fully run the administration. 
    But I understand when folks make the case for him to be the worst.  But I just think you have to wait and see if the things he did and oversaw can be turned around well enough or not.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @Raiders22  Do you believe President Biden is our worst in history?

    I, for sure, have him in the bottom 5.

     
    I think you have to wait a few years to give a total assessment.  
    I also have to give him somewhat of a break because he was obviously deteriorating the whole time he was in office.  
    I think his administration is one of the worst and his is one of 3-4 that you have to almost separate administration and presidency because of the issues he had with his ability to fully run the administration. 
    But I understand when folks make the case for him to be the worst.  But I just think you have to wait and see if the things he did and oversaw can be turned around well enough or not.  
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