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    Posted: May. 29, 2025 - 12:37 AM ET #501

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: US court of international trade rules that Trump doesn't have the authority to set tariffs under emergency powers law.  Tariffs require congress approval.  Trade deficits aren't emergencies because US run deficits with world for 49 consecutive years.  Trump continues to lose in courts because of his contempt for laws. 

     I am just afraid most of the damage has already been done and will take years to rebuild - your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone

    Probably accurate.  But that's what the far-right voted for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: US court of international trade rules that Trump doesn't have the authority to set tariffs under emergency powers law.  Tariffs require congress approval.  Trade deficits aren't emergencies because US run deficits with world for 49 consecutive years.  Trump continues to lose in courts because of his contempt for laws. 

     I am just afraid most of the damage has already been done and will take years to rebuild - your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone

    Probably accurate.  But that's what the far-right voted for...

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2025 - 12:56 AM ET #502

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: US court of international trade rules that Trump doesn't have the authority to set tariffs under emergency powers law.  Tariffs require congress approval.  Trade deficits aren't emergencies because US run deficits with world for 49 consecutive years.  Trump continues to lose in courts because of his contempt for laws.   I am just afraid most of the damage has already been done and will take years to rebuild - your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone Probably accurate.  But that's what the far-right voted for...

     

    Yeah, that's true, but that's one thing. What destroys trust even further is that so many of you still support him, and the world is noticing. International media doesn't really cover how many of you oppose him (they are mostly covering what weird things he does, how it affect our life and then they interview two or three MAGA idiots that love getting their face in the medias and maybe they can find one person that talks bad about what he is doing) - I guess it is because the opposition isn't that visible. And since Musk and co. control social media to a large extent, they artificially promote Americans who support them. So most international people think that MAGA cult is like 70-80% of the American population (and we only meet the idiots that want to educate us how strong your military is and how insignificant anyone else but you are), which also explains a lot of the hate you probably encounter on social media from foreigners. We don't see both sides of this (unless you look for it).

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: US court of international trade rules that Trump doesn't have the authority to set tariffs under emergency powers law.  Tariffs require congress approval.  Trade deficits aren't emergencies because US run deficits with world for 49 consecutive years.  Trump continues to lose in courts because of his contempt for laws.   I am just afraid most of the damage has already been done and will take years to rebuild - your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone Probably accurate.  But that's what the far-right voted for...

     

    Yeah, that's true, but that's one thing. What destroys trust even further is that so many of you still support him, and the world is noticing. International media doesn't really cover how many of you oppose him (they are mostly covering what weird things he does, how it affect our life and then they interview two or three MAGA idiots that love getting their face in the medias and maybe they can find one person that talks bad about what he is doing) - I guess it is because the opposition isn't that visible. And since Musk and co. control social media to a large extent, they artificially promote Americans who support them. So most international people think that MAGA cult is like 70-80% of the American population (and we only meet the idiots that want to educate us how strong your military is and how insignificant anyone else but you are), which also explains a lot of the hate you probably encounter on social media from foreigners. We don't see both sides of this (unless you look for it).

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2025 - 1:06 AM ET #503

    And yeah I know the Trump camp won't care about that either (and with "foreigners" I meant European people - I have no clue how it works in other places - sorry to everyone that is foreign but not European - you are more people than us and more important than us - I just forgot you guys)

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    And yeah I know the Trump camp won't care about that either (and with "foreigners" I meant European people - I have no clue how it works in other places - sorry to everyone that is foreign but not European - you are more people than us and more important than us - I just forgot you guys)

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2025 - 1:11 AM ET #504

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: US court of international trade rules that Trump doesn't have the authority to set tariffs under emergency powers law.  Tariffs require congress approval.  Trade deficits aren't emergencies because US run deficits with world for 49 consecutive years.  Trump continues to lose in courts because of his contempt for laws.   I am just afraid most of the damage has already been done and will take years to rebuild - your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone Probably accurate.  But that's what the far-right voted for...   Yeah, that's true, but that's one thing. What destroys trust even further is that so many of you still support him, and the world is noticing. International media doesn't really cover how many of you oppose him (they are mostly covering what weird things he does, how it affect our life and then they interview two or three MAGA idiots that love getting their face in the medias and maybe they can find one person that talks bad about what he is doing) - I guess it is because the opposition isn't that visible. And since Musk and co. control social media to a large extent, they artificially promote Americans who support them. So most international people think that MAGA cult is like 70-80% of the American population (and we only meet the idiots that want to educate us how strong your military is and how insignificant anyone else but you are), which also explains a lot of the hate you probably encounter on social media from foreigners. We don't see both sides of this (unless you look for it).

    Thats exactly how every single great empire acted thru out history, until they were bitch slapped out of being a great empire.  Every great empire failed and for anybody to think OUR GREAT EMPIRE IN THE USA cant fail are delusional and have no clue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: US court of international trade rules that Trump doesn't have the authority to set tariffs under emergency powers law.  Tariffs require congress approval.  Trade deficits aren't emergencies because US run deficits with world for 49 consecutive years.  Trump continues to lose in courts because of his contempt for laws.   I am just afraid most of the damage has already been done and will take years to rebuild - your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone Probably accurate.  But that's what the far-right voted for...   Yeah, that's true, but that's one thing. What destroys trust even further is that so many of you still support him, and the world is noticing. International media doesn't really cover how many of you oppose him (they are mostly covering what weird things he does, how it affect our life and then they interview two or three MAGA idiots that love getting their face in the medias and maybe they can find one person that talks bad about what he is doing) - I guess it is because the opposition isn't that visible. And since Musk and co. control social media to a large extent, they artificially promote Americans who support them. So most international people think that MAGA cult is like 70-80% of the American population (and we only meet the idiots that want to educate us how strong your military is and how insignificant anyone else but you are), which also explains a lot of the hate you probably encounter on social media from foreigners. We don't see both sides of this (unless you look for it).

    Thats exactly how every single great empire acted thru out history, until they were bitch slapped out of being a great empire.  Every great empire failed and for anybody to think OUR GREAT EMPIRE IN THE USA cant fail are delusional and have no clue

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2025 - 5:04 AM ET #505

    @Calde13

     your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone 

    when exactly did this trust leave the entire planet?  shake that magic 8 ball already.  

    So go ahead and buy some treasury bonds currently at 5% for a 20year, because you can't find that anywhere else right?  if so please share an_popcorn

    north america right now is doing pretty good, but the EU or the rest of your continent??  not so sure, good luck with those two maniacs....three if you include iran and four if you include kim.  your side of the world in that movie war game would be evaporated 

    Little country talking all this smack, everyone wants to come here

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    @Calde13

     your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone 

    when exactly did this trust leave the entire planet?  shake that magic 8 ball already.  

    So go ahead and buy some treasury bonds currently at 5% for a 20year, because you can't find that anywhere else right?  if so please share an_popcorn

    north america right now is doing pretty good, but the EU or the rest of your continent??  not so sure, good luck with those two maniacs....three if you include iran and four if you include kim.  your side of the world in that movie war game would be evaporated 

    Little country talking all this smack, everyone wants to come here

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2025 - 6:43 AM ET #506

    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    @Calde13  your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone  when exactly did this trust leave the entire planet?  shake that magic 8 ball already.   So go ahead and buy some treasury bonds currently at 5% for a 20year, because you can't find that anywhere else right?  if so please share  north america right now is doing pretty good, but the EU or the rest of your continent??  not so sure, good luck with those two maniacs....three if you include iran and four if you include kim.  your side of the world in that movie war game would be evaporated  Little country talking all this smack, everyone wants to come here

     

     

    In your dreams mate thumbs_up 2 days ago you were taught why Australia wasn't an Island by yours truly - don't take it personal when I don't go to you for explaining the world situation to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    @Calde13  your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone  when exactly did this trust leave the entire planet?  shake that magic 8 ball already.   So go ahead and buy some treasury bonds currently at 5% for a 20year, because you can't find that anywhere else right?  if so please share  north america right now is doing pretty good, but the EU or the rest of your continent??  not so sure, good luck with those two maniacs....three if you include iran and four if you include kim.  your side of the world in that movie war game would be evaporated  Little country talking all this smack, everyone wants to come here

     

     

    In your dreams mate thumbs_up 2 days ago you were taught why Australia wasn't an Island by yours truly - don't take it personal when I don't go to you for explaining the world situation to me

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2025 - 6:57 AM ET #507

    It is mostly because I care about your feelings that I haven't told you Father Christmas and the Easter Bunny aren't real—rather than because I think these facts wouldn't be news to you - I am mostly impressed you can be as retarded as you and still talk 

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    It is mostly because I care about your feelings that I haven't told you Father Christmas and the Easter Bunny aren't real—rather than because I think these facts wouldn't be news to you - I am mostly impressed you can be as retarded as you and still talk 

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2025 - 10:28 AM ET #508

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

      I am just afraid most of the damage has already been done and will take years to rebuild - your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone

    Under Biden administration, polls show improved respect for the US.  Now polls show most people in other countries have less confidence that Trump would do the right thing.  No world leader really respects Trump because he is dumb and incompetent.  His trade war threats have already damaged US tourism industry.  So international reputation and perception matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

      I am just afraid most of the damage has already been done and will take years to rebuild - your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone

    Under Biden administration, polls show improved respect for the US.  Now polls show most people in other countries have less confidence that Trump would do the right thing.  No world leader really respects Trump because he is dumb and incompetent.  His trade war threats have already damaged US tourism industry.  So international reputation and perception matter.

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2025 - 11:57 AM ET #509

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:   I am just afraid most of the damage has already been done and will take years to rebuild - your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone Under Biden administration, polls show improved respect for the US.  Now polls show most people in other countries have less confidence that Trump would do the right thing.  No world leader really respects Trump because he is dumb and incompetent.  His trade war threats have already damaged US tourism industry.  So international reputation and perception matter.

    Canadians coming into ny are down 22 percent at the bridges.  awesome job don the con and magasan_clap  destroying tourism for the Country.

    When history books right about this time in Our Countries history, they will call it the "ERA OF STUPIDITY"

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:   I am just afraid most of the damage has already been done and will take years to rebuild - your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone Under Biden administration, polls show improved respect for the US.  Now polls show most people in other countries have less confidence that Trump would do the right thing.  No world leader really respects Trump because he is dumb and incompetent.  His trade war threats have already damaged US tourism industry.  So international reputation and perception matter.

    Canadians coming into ny are down 22 percent at the bridges.  awesome job don the con and magasan_clap  destroying tourism for the Country.

    When history books right about this time in Our Countries history, they will call it the "ERA OF STUPIDITY"

     

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2025 - 12:30 PM ET #510

    Stay in there guys - when you get a decent president next - I am sure you will all receive a medal of honor - I can’t fathom you guys can get through having to hear on these guys bullshit every fucking day man - I would literally go insane paint_help we also have stupid people here (a few) but stupid people that think they know everything and they should lecture you - that is next level (and they sure as hell will lose the midterm election - he has done nothing good for your economy so it is just a matter of time before reality hits your markets - it can only be denial by the market that none can be that stupid - because it has never happened before someone destroyed their own country on purpose - so it doesn’t know how to react yet)

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    Stay in there guys - when you get a decent president next - I am sure you will all receive a medal of honor - I can’t fathom you guys can get through having to hear on these guys bullshit every fucking day man - I would literally go insane paint_help we also have stupid people here (a few) but stupid people that think they know everything and they should lecture you - that is next level (and they sure as hell will lose the midterm election - he has done nothing good for your economy so it is just a matter of time before reality hits your markets - it can only be denial by the market that none can be that stupid - because it has never happened before someone destroyed their own country on purpose - so it doesn’t know how to react yet)

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2025 - 12:45 PM ET #511

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:   I am just afraid most of the damage has already been done and will take years to rebuild - your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone Under Biden administration, polls show improved respect for the US.  Now polls show most people in other countries have less confidence that Trump would do the right thing.  No world leader really respects Trump because he is dumb and incompetent.  His trade war threats have already damaged US tourism industry.  So international reputation and perception matter.

     

    And yes trust is everything - I can literally feel it decline every single day (here in Europe - 6 months ago none would even question if we should buy for you guys or not - now it is almost like we will go out of our way not buying something from America - like now it is a statement you deliberately choose to live by - we have also already started talking trade deals with China - and we have the past 10-15 years talked about measurements to avoid being dependent on China - but now what is really the difference between you two except they are smarter and cheaper) and a lot of those countries that have your foreign debt is starting to sell it - your credit score has just been lowered, the value of the dollar has declined etc. - EVERY indicator in the market is screaming that Trump is doing a shitty job thumbs_up

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:   I am just afraid most of the damage has already been done and will take years to rebuild - your greatest trading item for the past 80 years have been “trust” and that is gone Under Biden administration, polls show improved respect for the US.  Now polls show most people in other countries have less confidence that Trump would do the right thing.  No world leader really respects Trump because he is dumb and incompetent.  His trade war threats have already damaged US tourism industry.  So international reputation and perception matter.

     

    And yes trust is everything - I can literally feel it decline every single day (here in Europe - 6 months ago none would even question if we should buy for you guys or not - now it is almost like we will go out of our way not buying something from America - like now it is a statement you deliberately choose to live by - we have also already started talking trade deals with China - and we have the past 10-15 years talked about measurements to avoid being dependent on China - but now what is really the difference between you two except they are smarter and cheaper) and a lot of those countries that have your foreign debt is starting to sell it - your credit score has just been lowered, the value of the dollar has declined etc. - EVERY indicator in the market is screaming that Trump is doing a shitty job thumbs_up

     
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    Trump has always felt his New Jersey bookie/thug intimidation model works because he felt it worked for his businesses (yet he failed multiple times over multiple decades). This abusive degrading approach to international commerce does not work and there is no winning when you have to club the other side of the trade to get what you think you want. It is also quite obvious to me he does not understand what trade deficits mean and why they exist, he thinks that a deficit means one side is getting the shaft from the other side and in this situation that is completely false. His entire premise on these dufus tariffs is due to him not understanding what a trade deficit is and that the lazy fat US consumer is part of the cause, AND the fact that our domestic capitalist policies allowed offshoring, our greedy PAC/Lobby sucking politicians were bought and paid to allow US corps to offshore production, offshore technology and IT jobs all to cut costs and increase profits. This is the root cause of our trade imbalance (that really does not exist). 

    The US is not a manufacturing economy and has not been for several decades, this causes trade deficits and the US consumer is in a large degree the beneficiary of these imbalances thanks to the awful work environments and wages in other countries that give us cheaper goods and higher profits.

    If Trump wanted to fix US issues he would start from within and focus on domestic causes not point the finger at other countries and other color skin people to blame for all the woes the TNC thinks are due to anyone not white male.

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    Trump has always felt his New Jersey bookie/thug intimidation model works because he felt it worked for his businesses (yet he failed multiple times over multiple decades). This abusive degrading approach to international commerce does not work and there is no winning when you have to club the other side of the trade to get what you think you want. It is also quite obvious to me he does not understand what trade deficits mean and why they exist, he thinks that a deficit means one side is getting the shaft from the other side and in this situation that is completely false. His entire premise on these dufus tariffs is due to him not understanding what a trade deficit is and that the lazy fat US consumer is part of the cause, AND the fact that our domestic capitalist policies allowed offshoring, our greedy PAC/Lobby sucking politicians were bought and paid to allow US corps to offshore production, offshore technology and IT jobs all to cut costs and increase profits. This is the root cause of our trade imbalance (that really does not exist). 

    The US is not a manufacturing economy and has not been for several decades, this causes trade deficits and the US consumer is in a large degree the beneficiary of these imbalances thanks to the awful work environments and wages in other countries that give us cheaper goods and higher profits.

    If Trump wanted to fix US issues he would start from within and focus on domestic causes not point the finger at other countries and other color skin people to blame for all the woes the TNC thinks are due to anyone not white male.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    Stay in there guys - when you get a decent president next - I am sure you will all receive a medal of honor - I can’t fathom you guys can get through having to hear on these guys bullshit every fucking day man - I would literally go insane  we also have stupid people here (a few) but stupid people that think they know everything and they should lecture you - that is next level (and they sure as hell will lose the midterm election - he has done nothing good for your economy so it is just a matter of time before reality hits your markets - it can only be denial by the market that none can be that stupid - because it has never happened before someone destroyed their own country on purpose - so it doesn’t know how to react yet)

    Whats really is insane all the so called smart people on wallstreet and tech backed this giant douche.  Those folks werent voting for the good of the country, they backed him for their own greedy reasons, cause already being filthy rich isnt enough.  To me they are no better then monster trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    Stay in there guys - when you get a decent president next - I am sure you will all receive a medal of honor - I can’t fathom you guys can get through having to hear on these guys bullshit every fucking day man - I would literally go insane  we also have stupid people here (a few) but stupid people that think they know everything and they should lecture you - that is next level (and they sure as hell will lose the midterm election - he has done nothing good for your economy so it is just a matter of time before reality hits your markets - it can only be denial by the market that none can be that stupid - because it has never happened before someone destroyed their own country on purpose - so it doesn’t know how to react yet)

    Whats really is insane all the so called smart people on wallstreet and tech backed this giant douche.  Those folks werent voting for the good of the country, they backed him for their own greedy reasons, cause already being filthy rich isnt enough.  To me they are no better then monster trump

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Trump has always felt his New Jersey bookie/thug intimidation model works because he felt it worked for his businesses (yet he failed multiple times over multiple decades). This abusive degrading approach to international commerce does not work and there is no winning when you have to club the other side of the trade to get what you think you want. It is also quite obvious to me he does not understand what trade deficits mean and why they exist, he thinks that a deficit means one side is getting the shaft from the other side and in this situation that is completely false. His entire premise on these dufus tariffs is due to him not understanding what a trade deficit is and that the lazy fat US consumer is part of the cause, AND the fact that our domestic capitalist policies allowed offshoring, our greedy PAC/Lobby sucking politicians were bought and paid to allow US corps to offshore production, offshore technology and IT jobs all to cut costs and increase profits. This is the root cause of our trade imbalance (that really does not exist).  The US is not a manufacturing economy and has not been for several decades, this causes trade deficits and the US consumer is in a large degree the beneficiary of these imbalances thanks to the awful work environments and wages in other countries that give us cheaper goods and higher profits. If Trump wanted to fix US issues he would start from within and focus on domestic causes not point the finger at other countries and other color skin people to blame for all the woes the TNC thinks are due to anyone not white male.


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    Reagan was the one who let the genie out of the bottle and now there is no way to put him back in the bottle.  All of us have become addicted to cheap stuff and making everything here aint gonna make things cheap.  They said a Iphone all built here would cost anywhere from 2000 to 35000.  Yeah am sure that will help sales.

    It is amazing that so many people think trump is some business guru. Living in NY my whole life, i have see how awful he is at everything.  You dont have 4000 lawsuits filed against you before he even jumped into politics, because he a good and honest businessman. Hes not.  All he knows how to do is lie, cheat and steal.  How this guy can be the President and not understand tariffs an_nailbiteran_getaway.  We have trade deficits because we use more things then other countries, its pretty damn simple. We are a consumer based economy where we spend more then we save and produce.  Iam no financial guru, but even i know this.an_brick

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Trump has always felt his New Jersey bookie/thug intimidation model works because he felt it worked for his businesses (yet he failed multiple times over multiple decades). This abusive degrading approach to international commerce does not work and there is no winning when you have to club the other side of the trade to get what you think you want. It is also quite obvious to me he does not understand what trade deficits mean and why they exist, he thinks that a deficit means one side is getting the shaft from the other side and in this situation that is completely false. His entire premise on these dufus tariffs is due to him not understanding what a trade deficit is and that the lazy fat US consumer is part of the cause, AND the fact that our domestic capitalist policies allowed offshoring, our greedy PAC/Lobby sucking politicians were bought and paid to allow US corps to offshore production, offshore technology and IT jobs all to cut costs and increase profits. This is the root cause of our trade imbalance (that really does not exist).  The US is not a manufacturing economy and has not been for several decades, this causes trade deficits and the US consumer is in a large degree the beneficiary of these imbalances thanks to the awful work environments and wages in other countries that give us cheaper goods and higher profits. If Trump wanted to fix US issues he would start from within and focus on domestic causes not point the finger at other countries and other color skin people to blame for all the woes the TNC thinks are due to anyone not white male.


    an_clapan_clapan_2drinks

    Reagan was the one who let the genie out of the bottle and now there is no way to put him back in the bottle.  All of us have become addicted to cheap stuff and making everything here aint gonna make things cheap.  They said a Iphone all built here would cost anywhere from 2000 to 35000.  Yeah am sure that will help sales.

    It is amazing that so many people think trump is some business guru. Living in NY my whole life, i have see how awful he is at everything.  You dont have 4000 lawsuits filed against you before he even jumped into politics, because he a good and honest businessman. Hes not.  All he knows how to do is lie, cheat and steal.  How this guy can be the President and not understand tariffs an_nailbiteran_getaway.  We have trade deficits because we use more things then other countries, its pretty damn simple. We are a consumer based economy where we spend more then we save and produce.  Iam no financial guru, but even i know this.an_brick

     
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    Secretary Bessent on talks with China..."I would say they are a bit stalled."

    I think this is what they call an understatement.

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    Secretary Bessent on talks with China..."I would say they are a bit stalled."

    I think this is what they call an understatement.

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    Posted: May. 30, 2025 - 3:35 AM ET #516

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: Stay in there guys - when you get a decent president next - I am sure you will all receive a medal of honor - I can’t fathom you guys can get through having to hear on these guys bullshit every fucking day man - I would literally go insane  we also have stupid people here (a few) but stupid people that think they know everything and they should lecture you - that is next level (and they sure as hell will lose the midterm election - he has done nothing good for your economy so it is just a matter of time before reality hits your markets - it can only be denial by the market that none can be that stupid - because it has never happened before someone destroyed their own country on purpose - so it doesn’t know how to react yet) Whats really is insane all the so called smart people on wallstreet and tech backed this giant douche.  Those folks werent voting for the good of the country, they backed him for their own greedy reasons, cause already being filthy rich isnt enough.  To me they are no better then monster trump

     

    Lol I didn’t know that I only thought it was the rednecks etc. - sick that they haven’t stopped him then - tariffs basically only work when they are used sector specific or as leverage - but then you don’t impose them - then you threat using them - Trump has not only left you off way worse economically - but he has also destroyed one of the biggest tools you could use to threat other nations economically - tariffs is like A-bombs it is mostly the threat of them that make people change their way and not if they are used (if they don’t respond to the threat they won’t respond to the use either)

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: Stay in there guys - when you get a decent president next - I am sure you will all receive a medal of honor - I can’t fathom you guys can get through having to hear on these guys bullshit every fucking day man - I would literally go insane  we also have stupid people here (a few) but stupid people that think they know everything and they should lecture you - that is next level (and they sure as hell will lose the midterm election - he has done nothing good for your economy so it is just a matter of time before reality hits your markets - it can only be denial by the market that none can be that stupid - because it has never happened before someone destroyed their own country on purpose - so it doesn’t know how to react yet) Whats really is insane all the so called smart people on wallstreet and tech backed this giant douche.  Those folks werent voting for the good of the country, they backed him for their own greedy reasons, cause already being filthy rich isnt enough.  To me they are no better then monster trump

     

    Lol I didn’t know that I only thought it was the rednecks etc. - sick that they haven’t stopped him then - tariffs basically only work when they are used sector specific or as leverage - but then you don’t impose them - then you threat using them - Trump has not only left you off way worse economically - but he has also destroyed one of the biggest tools you could use to threat other nations economically - tariffs is like A-bombs it is mostly the threat of them that make people change their way and not if they are used (if they don’t respond to the threat they won’t respond to the use either)

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2025 - 3:46 AM ET #517

    Now we know for the future the president of US can’t use tariffs like that we have your guys courts word on that - good luck using that as leverage now :) he basically have shown he doesn’t know anything about international trade

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    Now we know for the future the president of US can’t use tariffs like that we have your guys courts word on that - good luck using that as leverage now :) he basically have shown he doesn’t know anything about international trade

     
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    Reuters analysis reveals Trump trade war  has cost companies over $34 billion in lost sales and higher costs.  A toll that is expected to rise  as ongoing uncertainty over tariffs paralyzes decision making of companies.

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    Reuters analysis reveals Trump trade war  has cost companies over $34 billion in lost sales and higher costs.  A toll that is expected to rise  as ongoing uncertainty over tariffs paralyzes decision making of companies.

     
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    Dangerous Demented Donnie just announced he's increasing tariffs on steel imports to 50% from 25%.

    The US imports $33 Billion of steel annually, so that's a $16.5 Billion dollar tax per year. 

    That's probably just until Taco Tuesday when he reverses it.

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    Dangerous Demented Donnie just announced he's increasing tariffs on steel imports to 50% from 25%.

    The US imports $33 Billion of steel annually, so that's a $16.5 Billion dollar tax per year. 

    That's probably just until Taco Tuesday when he reverses it.

     
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     So I don't agree with anything you are saying but lets put that aside for now or forever as far as I am concerned. What I want to hear from you, and all of us "Trump Lpvers" will wait, is all of the accounts where Biden lied, cheated, and has stolen. This should be and easy one for you just make sure your computer is charged...it may take a while. Looking forward to a mature response.

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    @cd329

     So I don't agree with anything you are saying but lets put that aside for now or forever as far as I am concerned. What I want to hear from you, and all of us "Trump Lpvers" will wait, is all of the accounts where Biden lied, cheated, and has stolen. This should be and easy one for you just make sure your computer is charged...it may take a while. Looking forward to a mature response.

     
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     You seem to have all the data where President Joe "lied, cheated & stole" so share it with us all.

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    @rookie711

     You seem to have all the data where President Joe "lied, cheated & stole" so share it with us all.

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     You can't be serious for questioning what I asked of your boy CD. I'll start with just one lie that I just posted in another thread for CD and one each of the others.

    "No one in the military died under my watch" Should have been impeached on the spot!

    stole: You don't get to own 3 houses on his salary without getting bought by china and ukraine, I call that stealing. Just ask his son who was pissed his dad took so much.

    Cheated: This one is obvious...The election. Plus he cheated with his now wife when she was still married.

    Now you come up with 3.

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    @Midnight1

     You can't be serious for questioning what I asked of your boy CD. I'll start with just one lie that I just posted in another thread for CD and one each of the others.

    "No one in the military died under my watch" Should have been impeached on the spot!

    stole: You don't get to own 3 houses on his salary without getting bought by china and ukraine, I call that stealing. Just ask his son who was pissed his dad took so much.

    Cheated: This one is obvious...The election. Plus he cheated with his now wife when she was still married.

    Now you come up with 3.

     
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    On a soldier dying, he was wrong & misspoke as every president has done. But fine, you can call it a lie as long as you'll also admit Donnie the Lyin King has lied more than any other president in history. 

    Owning 3 homes is nothing. Joe got 8 million for his book deal & when he left office he paid 3.7 million in federal income tax or 5,000 times more than the $750 Deadbeat Donald paid.

    As far as the election, Biden won & at least 60 court cases proved he did so honestly.  You being an election denier tells me all I need to know about you.  

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    On a soldier dying, he was wrong & misspoke as every president has done. But fine, you can call it a lie as long as you'll also admit Donnie the Lyin King has lied more than any other president in history. 

    Owning 3 homes is nothing. Joe got 8 million for his book deal & when he left office he paid 3.7 million in federal income tax or 5,000 times more than the $750 Deadbeat Donald paid.

    As far as the election, Biden won & at least 60 court cases proved he did so honestly.  You being an election denier tells me all I need to know about you.  

     
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     I knew you would go to his book deals...by you not admitting he and his family got paid off from other countries tells me all I need to know about you.

    By you thinking the election was fair also tells me all I need to know about you. When Joe is long gone the truth will come out like it always does.

    No president in my life time has lied more often then Biden and it isn't even close. Just think about all of those stories he tells about himself which are PROVEN to be false. And once again if you think otherwise it tells me all I need to know about you.

    You can all print this and you can forget all of these current fake pools, Trump will be a top 3 president when he is finished and Biden will go down as one of the top 3 worst/most corrupt presidents. Once the dust settles and most likely after they have both passed the truth will come out. 

    We can go back and forth all day. I guess we just see what we want to see. Only time will tell but I like my chances.

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     I knew you would go to his book deals...by you not admitting he and his family got paid off from other countries tells me all I need to know about you.

    By you thinking the election was fair also tells me all I need to know about you. When Joe is long gone the truth will come out like it always does.

    No president in my life time has lied more often then Biden and it isn't even close. Just think about all of those stories he tells about himself which are PROVEN to be false. And once again if you think otherwise it tells me all I need to know about you.

    You can all print this and you can forget all of these current fake pools, Trump will be a top 3 president when he is finished and Biden will go down as one of the top 3 worst/most corrupt presidents. Once the dust settles and most likely after they have both passed the truth will come out. 

    We can go back and forth all day. I guess we just see what we want to see. Only time will tell but I like my chances.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rookie711:

    @Midnight1  I knew you would go to his book deals...by you not admitting he and his family got paid off from other countries tells me all I need to know about you. By you thinking the election was fair also tells me all I need to know about you. When Joe is long gone the truth will come out like it always does. No president in my life time has lied more often then Biden and it isn't even close. Just think about all of those stories he tells about himself which are PROVEN to be false. And once again if you think otherwise it tells me all I need to know about you. You can all print this and you can forget all of these current fake pools, Trump will be a top 3 president when he is finished and Biden will go down as one of the top 3 worst/most corrupt presidents. Once the dust settles and most likely after they have both passed the truth will come out.  We can go back and forth all day. I guess we just see what we want to see. Only time will tell but I like my chances.

    maybe we can add that Joe Biden wasn't our real President , it was Barrack Hussein Obama's THIRD TERM 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by rookie711:

    @Midnight1  I knew you would go to his book deals...by you not admitting he and his family got paid off from other countries tells me all I need to know about you. By you thinking the election was fair also tells me all I need to know about you. When Joe is long gone the truth will come out like it always does. No president in my life time has lied more often then Biden and it isn't even close. Just think about all of those stories he tells about himself which are PROVEN to be false. And once again if you think otherwise it tells me all I need to know about you. You can all print this and you can forget all of these current fake pools, Trump will be a top 3 president when he is finished and Biden will go down as one of the top 3 worst/most corrupt presidents. Once the dust settles and most likely after they have both passed the truth will come out.  We can go back and forth all day. I guess we just see what we want to see. Only time will tell but I like my chances.

    maybe we can add that Joe Biden wasn't our real President , it was Barrack Hussein Obama's THIRD TERM 

     

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