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Posted: #51
Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


They always bring up the point about about Obama being little more than a community organizer but yet they mention nothing of Trumps complete lack of experience in government.   

One could say that this was another way that trump is a plant by the dems to take away any credibility that the GOP had left.

That their selective outrage is not about principles or anything definable.  And when put to reality like this the GOP looks like complete hypocrites and lose all credibility.   Why would a true GOP want to own the GOP base like this and make them look life fools?

The proof is in the results.

Mission accomplished 
 
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Trump's caps are MADE IN THE USA
if the workers are green carders, well that's still legal. Hey, we don't here the Clintons or the Bushs (Rafaella Cruz is Bush protege puppet because Jeb is unelectable and boring) are both GLOBALISTS. They will outsource your very life to save a buck.

Sick to Bill and Hillary on the stage in New York celebrating like they won-- Bernie has to go up against 440 super delegates (lol) from congress, etc BEFORE the primaries start. Plus $200 million from PACs. Sick crooked Hillary. Kill with a grin.
 
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I know you want to off topic and talk about anyone but trump.

But try and keep the discussion on topic. 

Try this,

Long time Conservative mind George will, who I believe was a pall bearer of Nancy reagans casket recently said this about the topic of the thread. 


https://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/07/05/george-will-trump-acting-like-a-democratic-mole-hijacking-gop/

Can you comment on the conservative view point of trump from one of the leading conservative minds of this century and the 20th century?
 
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The truth is in the results


Why would a GOP politician want to expose to the world the truth about the GOP?

https://nation.foxnews.com/2016/02/24/trump-exposing-truth-about-gop

Sorry again progressives I know this seems to be that I am leaning conservative sources here for the theory and siding with conservatives but I will try to add a more progressive source if I can.  I know how crazy partisan lemmings get trying to say I'm not a non-partisan independent. 
 
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The truth is in the results 

What true GOP would want to expose Fox News and completely biased the mouth piece of the GOP establishment?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/01/cnn-trump-is-making-conservatives-see-fox-news-as-too-establishment/

And also at the same time weaken the viewership and confidence of the biased viewers in their GOP establishment "news" network. 

https://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/fox-news-just-received-terrible-news-trump-is-smiling/


 
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Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

Trump's caps are MADE IN THE USA
if the workers are green carders, well that's still legal. Hey, we don't here the Clintons or the Bushs (Rafaella Cruz is Bush protege puppet because Jeb is unelectable and boring) are both GLOBALISTS. They will outsource your very life to save a buck.

Sick to Bill and Hillary on the stage in New York celebrating like they won-- Bernie has to go up against 440 super delegates (lol) from congress, etc BEFORE the primaries start. Plus $200 million from PACs. Sick crooked Hillary. Kill with a grin.

Q:  Where was Trump's clothing line "Trump Collection" made?   

A:  China and Mexico
 
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The problem here is that you are presenting facts on which to base a conclusion upon.

You need to understand how emotionally based posters think in terms of selecting or having a conclusion prescribed to them and then trying to find anything possible true or not to try confirm their preselected conclusion.

Pretty well displayed on this thread.  Good job


 
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Not saying relax_dude's emotional perception of kart before horse logic is demonstrative of all trump supporters.  But it is one on the thread and perhaps we can learn more about trump supporters like him Based on what they post. 
 
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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/miami-congressman-sees-trump-democratic-plant

Ok progressives here is something from your beloved msnbc.  But it is the view of a GOP congressman saying this theory.  So it is still kind of the GOP conservative view of the topic. 

It's interesting how people seem so Terrified to comment on the many different views of this topic that have been presented. 

Please, let's have a civil and intelligent dialog on the topic

IPC lol
 
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Posted: #60
Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

Trump's caps are MADE IN THE USAif the workers are green carders, well that's still legal. Hey, we don't here the Clintons or the Bushs (Rafaella Cruz is Bush protege puppet because Jeb is unelectable and boring) are both GLOBALISTS. They will outsource your very life to save a buck. Sick to Bill and Hillary on the stage in New York celebrating like they won-- Bernie has to go up against 440 super delegates (lol) from congress, etc BEFORE the primaries start. Plus $200 million from PACs. Sick crooked Hillary. Kill with a grin.
Q:  Where was Trump's clothing line "Trump Collection" made?   A:  China and Mexico

Facts only please.

Q: Where are Hillary and Bills businesses?

A: outsourced through NAFTA

IDIOT
 
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

 

I know you want to off topic and talk about anyone but trump.

But try and keep the discussion on topic. 

Try this,

Long time Conservative mind George will, who I believe was a pall bearer of Nancy reagans casket recently said this about the topic of the thread. 


https://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/07/05/george-will-trump-acting-like-a-democratic-mole-hijacking-gop/

Can you comment on the conservative view point of trump from one of the leading conservative minds of this century and the 20th century?

+1

It's funny how the insults in caps starts once the facts come out that disproves the cart before horse logic.

I know you're all mad and everything because reality is against you, but please... 

Let's kee it civil


 
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Sorry it should say let's keep it civil.  

And let's try to keep it on topic.  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


Q:  Where was Trump's clothing line "Trump Collection" made?   

A:  China and Mexico


Trump built his businesses so he is the "evil capitalist" , while Clinton is literally owned by Goldman Sachs, yet she is just like us.

Riiiiigghhtttt
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

Q:  Where was Trump's clothing line "Trump Collection" made?   A:  China and Mexico
Facts only please.

Q: Where are Hillary and Bills businesses?

A: outsourced through NAFTA

IDIOT

Excuse me?   You make a statement that Trumps hats are made in the USA, then I point out a FACT that his clothing line was made in other countries and you call me an idiot?   What is the reason for the name calling?   THIS is why people do not take anyone who supports Trump seriously.   You are immediately on the defensive when presented with a factual statement or argument.  Resorting to name calling when you're frustrated isn't how adults converse, but yet Trump and his followers think it's the way to talk to others.  If you want to keep up with the playground rhetoric you're free to do so, it's a free country, but if you ever want to be taken seriously and have your opinion valued you should probably try talking like and acting like an adult.  You seriously, SERIOUSLY need to look at your screen name and take your own advice.  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:



Trump built his businesses so he is the "evil capitalist" , while Clinton is literally owned by Goldman Sachs, yet she is just like us.

Riiiiigghhtttt

Didn't see this earlier...

WHO built Donald Trump's business?   His father did.  

Who bankrupted the business in 1991, 1992, 2004 and 2009?  Donald did

Do you ever check any facts?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


Didn't see this earlier...

WHO built Donald Trump's business?   His father did.  $200 million inheritance divided amongst all his children. Trump has BUILT his business into a $7-10 billion dollar net worth. Do the math.

Who bankrupted the business in 1991, 1992, 2004 and 2009?  Donald did  Utilizing existing laws to protect buildings and projects and jobs is strategic. Your point?

Do you ever check any facts? Do you ever back check facts on your crooked Hillary? No, it's far more easy and mind numbing to follow the MSM. Seems to me being a self serving TRAITOR and murderer is far more serious a crime. 

Adios America
 
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Excuse me?   You make a statement that Trumps hats are made in the USA, then I point out a FACT that his clothing line was made in other countries and you call me an idiot?   What is the reason for the name calling?   THIS is why people do not take anyone who supports Trump seriously.   You are immediately on the defensive when presented with a factual statement or argument.  Resorting to name calling when you're frustrated isn't how adults converse, but yet Trump and his followers think it's the way to talk to others.  If you want to keep up with the playground rhetoric you're free to do so, it's a free country, but if you ever want to be taken seriously and have your opinion valued you should probably try talking like and acting like an adult.  You seriously, SERIOUSLY need to look at your screen name and take your own advice.  

You want a Dr Ben Carson moderate answer? Not gonna happen on covers.com. 

I find it ANNOYING that you have to try catch someone in a contradiction. Is it not enough to TRY to bring jobs back to the USA as a President? And Americans DO NOT WANT TO MAKE CLOTHING. The owner of Nike has tried it, and it does not work, because Americans DO NOT WANT TO MAKE TENNIS SHOES! 

We are talking about jobs WE CAN DO--such as manufacturing of ir conditioners, cars, airplanes, computers. Americans can and want to do these jobs.

Do you understand now???????? If you do, I take back the IDIOT charge
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:


You want a Dr Ben Carson moderate answer? Not gonna happen on covers.com. 

I find it ANNOYING that you have to try catch someone in a contradiction. Is it not enough to TRY to bring jobs back to the USA as a President? And Americans DO NOT WANT TO MAKE CLOTHING. The owner of Nike has tried it, and it does not work, because Americans DO NOT WANT TO MAKE TENNIS SHOES! 

We are talking about jobs WE CAN DO--such as manufacturing of ir conditioners, cars, airplanes, computers. Americans can and want to do these jobs.

Do you understand now???????? If you do, I take back the IDIOT charge

I translate this as follows....    YOU find it annoying when something you said gets thrown back at you with a differing opinion whether it be fact or opinion based.  YOU want to have it both ways...  saying it's ok if one person outsources work because you agree with their beliefs but it's anti-American if someone else does because of your own personal beliefs.   Pick a side and stick with it.   You're just chasing your own tail.  
 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Relax_Dude] News media from the UK are by no means superior. They are fascinated with Trump. Although the English is better, the writing is still superficial in its editorial and in its research.

Most people around the world know Trump--know NOTHING about the Canadian Cuban, phoney Texan Rafael Cruz. 

 Trump is not a Democrat on fiscal matters--ABSOLUTE Republican. Reduce taxes, reduce spending.

Trump is a Republican on military defense. America FIRST, and Peace through Strength.

If he is rightly accused of being a Democrat, it would be in that GNAWING social arena that perturbs the Christian Bible thumpers. He is very liberal in social areas, unfettered, unfiltered, often just plain RAW. 

 He was raised in a very patriotic family, where America was considered an identification culturally and socially, and worthy of resources to protect HER.

So for me, I am OKAY with being liberal socially--The President and the government should be hands off and never be manipulating its citizenry to promote christianity or one point of view. I do wish he would say the things he does in a different way. Almost every alienating and incendiary  comment  so far (regarding women, handicapped, Mexicans, etc) could have been funny and still to the point with just a different tone and choice of words.


 I think this is a very accurate post that semi reinforces dl's point..
 
Trump has taken left center social positions that attract the emotional democrat voter. Smart move. He has learned from Obama and DEMS how to attack and target his detractors. You have to give him some credit of taking pages out of the history playbook. It makes him such an easy target by the establishment GOP who loathe his potential leadership role because of his open mindedness...ie..LBGT comments..Planned Parenthood..
 
I don't t mind those comments and think its very wrong for Cruz to take those comments and run with them. That turns me off as I'm sure most Americans are flexible..especially on social issues. Kind of like the discourse in this mostly entertaining thread.
 
DL, I agree that Trump has no experience but I assure you he is a smart enough man(and LEADER) to attract some very intelligent folks who could do a much greater job of running this country, especially when it comes to the military, finances, and global relations. He has been very successful in the private sector. Give him a chance, EVERYONE sees what a disaster the last 7 years have been for t5his great nation with an idealog at the helm.
 
 
 
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Smart and charismatic I would agree.  Same could be said of Obama tho too and that doesn't mean that you suddenly become a great leader. The problem too is that I don't think he can lead the military or global relations and I get his talk on finances and he probably has the ability but not sure what he will do.  Cheney was a great businessman type with Halliburton and probably had the ability to do the right things and yet sold out the USA to that corporation draining public tax payer money.   Trump also says that he wants to fund military which is a great GOP talking point but that does not mean he will be a good leader. 

Social liberal/fiscal conservative in some way is the dream. Mine perhaps but probably of many and the problem with the current systems is that we were never given that option. 

The point of the thread tho is that trump has basically exposed, splintered and thrown the GOP and Fox News into chaos.  Weakening the trust that even its own base has in it while non GOP and the rest of the world watches on. 

George wills statement is interesting that democratic plant or not his actions and results speak to the theory. 

Mission accomplished 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:


You want a Dr Ben Carson moderate answer? Not gonna happen on covers.com. 

I find it ANNOYING that you have to try catch someone in a contradiction. Is it not enough to TRY to bring jobs back to the USA as a President? And Americans DO NOT WANT TO MAKE CLOTHING. The owner of Nike has tried it, and it does not work, because Americans DO NOT WANT TO MAKE TENNIS SHOES! 

We are talking about jobs WE CAN DO--such as manufacturing of ir conditioners, cars, airplanes, computers. Americans can and want to do these jobs.

Do you understand now???????? If you do, I take back the IDIOT charge

You look completely butthurt here and having a total emotional meltdown posting in caps because you are all mad that the reality of trump contradicts your feelings about trump. 

I guess that's why you have been trying to spin this thread to try to talk about anyone but trump. You know that your emotional ranting amounts to nothing but that. 

But being the patient person I am, I hope that you will be able to comment on one of the many viewpoints I have provided about this topic and be able to tone down and curb your out of control emotions and engage in a civil dialog with out the insults.

Please friend, make an intelligent post about the topic 


 
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The truth is in the results.

With the growing Hispanic population in the United States this group becomes more important.  Gw bush's popularity with Hispanics helped him win the presidency and would probably be a better minority group to invest in for the 21sr century than African Americans. 


https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/7/donald-trump-democratic-plant/

So what true GOP would seek to purposely infuriate Hispanics with a crazy Great Wall of China idea on the border?  If he is trying to destroy the GOP and the party's future...

Mission accomplished 


 
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Now that the op has finally started a thread he'll make sure it gets to six pages and bump it 12 times a day.  So he can use it as a reference of the time he started a thread that had over 100 comments on a ridiculous topic.  Get your tin foil hat out dl.
 
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Why do you always come off so butthurt and em negative ?

Why not just engage in a civil discussion about the topic? Or is it that another alias has embarasses themselves on three and you need to bail them out. 

Either way I'm hoping you can turn it around and join the rest of us in discussion about the topic. 

I'm rooting for ya sport 
 
 
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It's funny how when presented with an opportunity for an intelligent and civil disucssion how absolutely terrified some posters are.

Seems like some just want blind agreement

Seems like others are so consumed with anger and emotion that all they want to do is be negative and go psychostalker 

Seems like others tried but melted down under the stress of reality and debate.

At least that is what this head shows us 
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