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Posted: #101
Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

makes more sense than most garbage we hear on the immigration issue. 


alot of what we hear on the immigration issue is garbage...

feasible solutions, logical ideas seem scarce...  
 
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If you listen to the far left the U.S. IS IN DECLINE...

1) White police target black people and enjoy killing them, facts that they're resisting arrest or attacking the police don't get in the way of the narrative. 40 FBI agents sent to Ferguson by our racist attorney general found nothing, but no matter burn this B*tch down. 

An oxycontin drug dealer got killed in Phoenix last night. Once again resisting arrest, cop thought he had a gun but he didn't, wouldn't take his hands out of his pockets, cop thought he had a gun. Boom, dead drug dealer, huge loss to society, let's protest some more...

2) War on women, America hates it's women just like Saudi Arabia (no driving ladies) or Egypt (hope you don't plan on using your clit)

3) Today we dusted off a 12 year old story that the sequel cost $40m to tell us again that we're bad, we torture people coming home from the library while our enemies continue to chop off people heads, sell young girls into slavery and slaughter every person they can find. 

It's hilarious, the dems scorched earth policy, 2 weeks ago the top loser breaks the law by promising 5M illegals they will not be held to the law and now the sequel released today. I'll bet everything I have that everyone knew what was going on back then and had no problem with it (just like the Iraq war). 

Where's the report on Fast & Furious, NSA, IRS & VA? Something tells me they have no interest in getting to the bottom of any of those stories... 2,000 automatic weapons sent to Mexico by our gun hating administration, one of our agents gets killed by one of the guns and Eric Holder or Big Sis Nappy had NO IDEA ABOUT THE PROGRAM. Who believes that? Only a moronic lefty...
 
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Killer_B you're kickin A  tonight.....
 
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You make the dumbest points. 

You act as if barely educated cops can act as the judge and jury if a person is breaking the law. Americans have the right to a fair trial... True or False? 

You whine about fast and furious but never bring up operation wide receiver.. I wonder why. Do you think the president should be aware of a gun tracing operation being performed by the ATF and all of the details every step of the way? 

NSA, IRS, VA ... what about it? Let's hear some more of your delusional thoughts. 
 
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Barely educated cops vs. non-educated street thugs... Hilarious as usual detox. Obviously, Americans have a right to a fair trial. Would you agree if your "under arrest" you shouldn't fight the cop or resist? Is that delusional? Tell me we can agree on this, please. From the age of being able to understand anything I was taught you respect the police and don't fight them, they come like rabbits. It's a simple concept. Maybe it's happened somewhere along the line but I'd like to know how many suspects have been killed by cops that didn't resist. How many do you think detox?

Here's some delusion for you detox.

NSA - All I heard for 8 years of the Bush administration was we were losing our rights. Come to find out the Obama administration records everything we type or speak. Even the leader of Germany had his phone tapped and he's an ally.

IRS - Lois Lerner, need I say more. Disappearing e-mails, where are they? We lost them. 11 backups, but we lost them all... We'll get back to you and the cats got her tongue.

VA - In 2008 the our dear leader said he was going to fix the VA. He knew there were problems but as usual did nothing about it until our heroes were dying waiting for dr appts. Same President that champions a failing new government run healthcare plan that'll be in the dustbin of history before long.

2,000 automatic weapons being dropped into a foreign country to drug cartels? Yes, I think he should know about it, don't you?
That could be considered an act of war. If Canada smuggled 2,000 assault rifles into Chicago, how do you think that would go over?


 
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Posted: #106
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

You make the dumbest points. 

You act as if barely educated cops can act as the judge and jury if a person is breaking the law. Americans have the right to a fair trial... True or False? 
 

False !

 President Barack Obama has used unmanned drones to strike to  execute US citizens abroad without a trial ...

...and the Obama administration believes it could technically use military force to kill an American on U.S. soil in an "extraordinary circumstance" without due process....according to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder.............

 
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The leader of Germany is a female. You don't think the United States needs to keep an eye on their "alleys"? 

 
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Obama used unmanned drones to execute US citizens abroad. 

 
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Detox - The administration so against torture has killed 2,400 people with drone strikes. I know that doesn't make it to your liberal "news" providers. Hypocrisy is a constant from the left. 

Aren't terrorists people too that deserve rights Detox? By your insane ideology I'm sure you'll agree with that statement.

I remember the terrorist that looked like Chong from Cheech and Chong that originally was invited to the Pentagon that ended up being a grease spot in Yemen if my memory is accurate. What about him Detox, was it okay to send him a lightning bolt instead of reading him his rights and getting him a New York lawyer to defend him.
 
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Drone strikes have created more terrorists. If they killed 2,400, they created 24,000.

I think creating a quagmire in the Middle East was one of the biggest mistakes in this country's history. In Syria, I think we should have backed Assad. 

I don't agree with a lot of our foreign policy under Obama. However, republican ideas are even worse. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Obama used unmanned drones to execute US citizens abroad. 



No trial ...no due process,, no water boarding ..and no torture for President Obama...   no no ..just judge them and kill them ...even under age minors

The Obama administration continues to claim authority to kill virtually anyone anywhere in the world under the ‘global battlefield’ legal theory and a radical redefinition of the concept of imminence...

Screw due process under their Fourth Amendment rights....to hell with their 4th Amendment rights against unreasonable searches and seizures, and requires warrants be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause. ...drones can't do seizures so just kill them ...but no enhanced interrogation techniques that's bad ..just execute them ...


 
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Not really sure what you guys are talking about? Are we comparing Americans that are resisting arrest to people killed by drones? 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Not really sure what you guys are talking about? Are we comparing Americans that are resisting arrest to people killed by drones? 



Don't bother with it ..just go to bed ,,as it's over your head..

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......... That's what I thought 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Killer_B you're kickin A  tonight.....


He must really need your help to get a "bail out" like that...  or at least you must have thought he needed your help...

well either way... it looks like you must have thought you he needed your help...  I think you knew after his post his was up a creek with a out a paddle and needed you to throw a life preserver
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Killer_B you're kickin A  tonight.....

 
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Detox, DL & Darkhouse believe every word I said in post #102.

EVERY WORD OF IT.....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

"-nobody is trying to get into Mexico from the North. Except gun runners apparently".

......        isn't that the truth...lol


Whats needed is a leader....a Commander-in Chief who gives it a priority with federal support and not a leader that encourages illegal immigration..A leader like Hoover ("repatriation"campaign) Truman (after the war,, deportation to create jobs for returning vets)..and like Ike ('Operation ***back' )..

From the above presidential models of dealing with illegal aliens in this country more that 10 illegals self deported,,..for every illegal deported ...

Maybe we should consider a moratorium on all immigration into this country ...40% of undocumented workers in the United States are foreigners who came legally mostly through visas but have overstayed the length of the visas or overstayed their legal residence here.....till we can come up with away to keep track of these people and make sure they do not overstay and that they return to their home country ..no visas...

Now if they could deport the illegal's back then - we could do it today...all it will take is leadership..

Yes  but there is no demand for a leader on this issue because the folks really don't care about it by and large. How would you convince enough people that it is an issue that should be fixed?  Then they would maybe elect leaders in congress and president that would fix it. Until enough people care---it will only get worse. 
 
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Posted: #119
Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

Detox, DL & Darkhouse believe every word I said in post #102.

EVERY WORD OF IT.....


Thats what is concerning...


at least concerning enough for others to come in and try to play some defense and damage control...  If not you wouldn't have people rushing in to help
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

Yes  but there is no demand for a leader on this issue because the folks really don't care about it by and large. How would you convince enough people that it is an issue that should be fixed?  Then they would maybe elect leaders in congress and president that would fix it. Until enough people care---it will only get worse. 


That's it Radiers22  "the people " have to care for it to happen ..and since 75% of Americans are uninformed ..it is not very hopeful that it will happen..
 
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#1 I don't need anyones help, the lefties are clear about what I described. #2 Not one post has made an argument against any claim I made. Detox threw in his usual "you make dumb points". How intellectual? I wonder if he was on his high school debate team? 

Make an argument. Is "Do I believe people are entitled to a fair trial" supposed to generate some deep thought? Of course I do, I'm still waiting if Detox believes that if a law enforcement officer puts you under arrest, you should submit and look forward to defending yourself, option b, charge him like a football player and fight with him in his car for his gun? It's a reasonable question.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:



  Detox threw in his usual "you make dumb points". How intellectual? I wonder if he was on his high school debate team?



He was ..but his team always lost ..
 
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I know right...

Sara must really think he is getting owned to be trying so hard to bail him out and trying to end the discussion and stop the bleeding...

he wouldn't be trying so hard if he didn't know this thread has become a BloodBath for his "caucus"...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

Rick and Slim---- 
All good stuff.  But how do you convince the American people to get on board?

They tell me the hardest part about getting into US from Central America, is getting into Mexico from the south. They don't have a need to guard their northern border---nobody is trying to get into Mexico from the North. Except gun runners apparently. 


Have we started to care what the American people think? 
Executive orders?
Congressionally overturning the vote of the people of DC

NOt sure the Public has to be on board.
 
 
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i saw the DC ruling.  in their defense, the congressmen who voted against the marijuana legalization were only voting on behalf of the pharmaceutical companies that own them.  what choice did they have?
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