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    The science behind global warming /climate change is settled. ...

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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 1:12 PM ET #51

    The Peoples Climate March in Washington, D.C.,on Saturday ..
    ..the movement took issue with the administration’s rollbacks of environmental protections...

    https://www.dailydot.com/irl/peoples-climate-march-photos/


    Notice how they all have
    that certain look.....
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    The Peoples Climate March in Washington, D.C.,on Saturday ..
    ..the movement took issue with the administration’s rollbacks of environmental protections...

    https://www.dailydot.com/irl/peoples-climate-march-photos/


    Notice how they all have
    that certain look.....
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 4:13 PM ET #52

    According to mediabiasfactcheck, townhall, newamerican, express and newsmax are bias websites that publish misleading reports from untrustworthy sources.  Strong loaded words are used to influence audience by appealing to emotion or stereotype.
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    According to mediabiasfactcheck, townhall, newamerican, express and newsmax are bias websites that publish misleading reports from untrustworthy sources.  Strong loaded words are used to influence audience by appealing to emotion or stereotype.
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 4:26 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to mediabiasfactcheck, townhall, newamerican, express and newsmax are bias websites that publish misleading reports from untrustworthy sources.  Strong loaded words are used to influence audience by appealing to emotion or stereotype.


    6500 years ago it was hotter than now at 16 degrees Celsius.

    Roughly 500 years passed and it cooled down to 14.5 degrees Celsius.

    For the last 6000 years there have been 6 cooling cycles and 6 warming cycles.

    Are these facts or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to mediabiasfactcheck, townhall, newamerican, express and newsmax are bias websites that publish misleading reports from untrustworthy sources.  Strong loaded words are used to influence audience by appealing to emotion or stereotype.


    6500 years ago it was hotter than now at 16 degrees Celsius.

    Roughly 500 years passed and it cooled down to 14.5 degrees Celsius.

    For the last 6000 years there have been 6 cooling cycles and 6 warming cycles.

    Are these facts or not?
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 5:59 PM ET #54

    So you do admit that our climate is changing.
    Whether it was fossil fuels or natural occurrence as the sun is warming slightly that this planet is getting warmer?
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    So you do admit that our climate is changing.
    Whether it was fossil fuels or natural occurrence as the sun is warming slightly that this planet is getting warmer?
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 6:11 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    The Peoples Climate March in Washington, D.C.,on Saturday ..
    ..the movement took issue with the administration’s rollbacks of environmental protections...

    https://www.dailydot.com/irl/peoples-climate-march-photos/


    Notice how they all have
    that certain look.....

    And tens of millions didn't march because they haven't been brainwashed that the sky is falling because the earth warms a degree or 2... Everything will be fine until Mother Earth say enough of humans and even the Global Warming fanatics won't be able to stop that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    The Peoples Climate March in Washington, D.C.,on Saturday ..
    ..the movement took issue with the administration’s rollbacks of environmental protections...

    https://www.dailydot.com/irl/peoples-climate-march-photos/


    Notice how they all have
    that certain look.....

    And tens of millions didn't march because they haven't been brainwashed that the sky is falling because the earth warms a degree or 2... Everything will be fine until Mother Earth say enough of humans and even the Global Warming fanatics won't be able to stop that...

     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 6:20 PM ET #56

    So could this be determined as a seventh warming cycle .? Where the se once was shark teeth can be found. s the basis of the bedrock is limestone feature. Made from animal and plant matter. That settled there to form the landmass. When this returns to a shallow aquapeligo. Fresh water shallow sea with less salt than clear ocean. What do we do with the displaced population.
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    So could this be determined as a seventh warming cycle .? Where the se once was shark teeth can be found. s the basis of the bedrock is limestone feature. Made from animal and plant matter. That settled there to form the landmass. When this returns to a shallow aquapeligo. Fresh water shallow sea with less salt than clear ocean. What do we do with the displaced population.
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 6:36 PM ET #57

    Here I will walk you through the logic.
    Warmer temperatures allows more water to evaporate allowing v more persciptatiin into the atmosphere. The clouds get bigger. Storms more potential for destructive winds.
    The water once locked by glaciers and polar ice shelves add more water more potential potential energy being diverted to connectect energy. Allowing greater risk for catastrophic storm event cy led such as we see in the south these days.
    Do not think for a second that sabanesqu claims one billion. Can survive here. Religion states a number near 100,g actually will. One billion is a bit opportunistic but quite possible without coastal communities concerns.
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    Here I will walk you through the logic.
    Warmer temperatures allows more water to evaporate allowing v more persciptatiin into the atmosphere. The clouds get bigger. Storms more potential for destructive winds.
    The water once locked by glaciers and polar ice shelves add more water more potential potential energy being diverted to connectect energy. Allowing greater risk for catastrophic storm event cy led such as we see in the south these days.
    Do not think for a second that sabanesqu claims one billion. Can survive here. Religion states a number near 100,g actually will. One billion is a bit opportunistic but quite possible without coastal communities concerns.
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 6:36 PM ET #58

    Here I will walk you through the logic.
    Warmer temperatures allows more water to evaporate allowing v more persciptatiin into the atmosphere. The clouds get bigger. Storms more potential for destructive winds.
    The water once locked by glaciers and polar ice shelves add more water more potential potential energy being diverted to connectect energy. Allowing greater risk for catastrophic storm event cy led such as we see in the south these days.
    Do not think for a second that sabanesqu claims one billion. Can survive here. Religion states a number near 100,g actually will. One billion is a bit opportunistic but quite possible without coastal communities concerns.
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    Here I will walk you through the logic.
    Warmer temperatures allows more water to evaporate allowing v more persciptatiin into the atmosphere. The clouds get bigger. Storms more potential for destructive winds.
    The water once locked by glaciers and polar ice shelves add more water more potential potential energy being diverted to connectect energy. Allowing greater risk for catastrophic storm event cy led such as we see in the south these days.
    Do not think for a second that sabanesqu claims one billion. Can survive here. Religion states a number near 100,g actually will. One billion is a bit opportunistic but quite possible without coastal communities concerns.
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 6:53 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Dude. I like debating with you but science is science. It is the one thing that does not lie. Evidence is evidence. It can't be spun. Either the world is changing or it is not.
    Evidence is evidence even if it's made up..right?It's not about denying the change,but about rejecting the absolute attribution and the solution ....

    Cheer up slim those 144 blue state counties will be under 20 feet of water and won't be interfering with a red state land slide. Pesky urban coastal communities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Dude. I like debating with you but science is science. It is the one thing that does not lie. Evidence is evidence. It can't be spun. Either the world is changing or it is not.
    Evidence is evidence even if it's made up..right?It's not about denying the change,but about rejecting the absolute attribution and the solution ....

    Cheer up slim those 144 blue state counties will be under 20 feet of water and won't be interfering with a red state land slide. Pesky urban coastal communities.
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 7:47 PM ET #60

    I know that for political and $ reasons this is a partisan issue. But I would argue that on this website that we should not make this a partisan issue. I am not standing up for global warming for political reasons. I am just saying that the science that suggests that temps are rising, catastrophic weather events are rising, glaciers are decreasing in size, and the link with human activities are real. It may be a cyclical thing in the history of earth but the science stating the fact that we as a population are accelerating this can not be intellectually argued.
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    I know that for political and $ reasons this is a partisan issue. But I would argue that on this website that we should not make this a partisan issue. I am not standing up for global warming for political reasons. I am just saying that the science that suggests that temps are rising, catastrophic weather events are rising, glaciers are decreasing in size, and the link with human activities are real. It may be a cyclical thing in the history of earth but the science stating the fact that we as a population are accelerating this can not be intellectually argued.
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 9:24 PM ET #61


    @Matt brot . where this is a cyclic proven event and humans are responsible for the acceleration of this natural chain of events at what point does this.never ending blame game continues we continue to get hammered by increasingly more destructive records today Texas governor remarked of a twister their longest continual touch down ever. But I am sure this record will be shattered in the near future.....
    Tick tock. We should predetermine some preparation for this eventual reality.
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    @Matt brot . where this is a cyclic proven event and humans are responsible for the acceleration of this natural chain of events at what point does this.never ending blame game continues we continue to get hammered by increasingly more destructive records today Texas governor remarked of a twister their longest continual touch down ever. But I am sure this record will be shattered in the near future.....
    Tick tock. We should predetermine some preparation for this eventual reality.
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 9:31 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by wordsmyth:



    6500 years ago it was hotter than now at 16 degrees Celsius.

    Roughly 500 years passed and it cooled down to 14.5 degrees Celsius.

    For the last 6000 years there have been 6 cooling cycles and 6 warming cycles.

    Are these facts or not?


    Hello???

    You drop ice cubes into a glass of water and the water will cool.

    Why do I waste my time with these morons?
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    Quote Originally Posted by wordsmyth:



    6500 years ago it was hotter than now at 16 degrees Celsius.

    Roughly 500 years passed and it cooled down to 14.5 degrees Celsius.

    For the last 6000 years there have been 6 cooling cycles and 6 warming cycles.

    Are these facts or not?


    Hello???

    You drop ice cubes into a glass of water and the water will cool.

    Why do I waste my time with these morons?
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 9:46 PM ET #63

    Pacific rim has more troubling concerns with the continued rising of the new Zealand Continent the potential for a massive sunami event should be address if you know the potential risk for a highly probable event within the near term 20 year tectonic cycle event. Most of the worlds populations live in a potential flood zone.
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    Pacific rim has more troubling concerns with the continued rising of the new Zealand Continent the potential for a massive sunami event should be address if you know the potential risk for a highly probable event within the near term 20 year tectonic cycle event. Most of the worlds populations live in a potential flood zone.
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 10:04 PM ET #64

    The cherry on top their Chinese media reports funaki reactor two has destabilized the radition charts can not be measured.
    Too high.
    They shut down radio tel cope array Japan for fear of damage to optics electronic array equipment measuring gamma radiation features intended for deep space studies.

    Costs are being determined by Tokyo power to stabilizing last live fire reactor.
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    The cherry on top their Chinese media reports funaki reactor two has destabilized the radition charts can not be measured.
    Too high.
    They shut down radio tel cope array Japan for fear of damage to optics electronic array equipment measuring gamma radiation features intended for deep space studies.

    Costs are being determined by Tokyo power to stabilizing last live fire reactor.
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 10:14 PM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:



    Hello???

    You drop ice cubes into a glass of water and the water will cool.

    Why do I waste my time with these morons?


    Oh, I wasn't aware that I was talking about water temps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:



    Hello???

    You drop ice cubes into a glass of water and the water will cool.

    Why do I waste my time with these morons?


    Oh, I wasn't aware that I was talking about water temps.


     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 11:05 PM ET #66

    Global warming 3/4 of the planet has a surface of water. We count those temperatures for they cause the variances of rain fall on all surfaces 70 degree water evooarates quicker than ice but slower than a kettle on the stove. So again yes temperature can be determined as more significant variable than quantity.
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    Global warming 3/4 of the planet has a surface of water. We count those temperatures for they cause the variances of rain fall on all surfaces 70 degree water evooarates quicker than ice but slower than a kettle on the stove. So again yes temperature can be determined as more significant variable than quantity.
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 11:11 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    I know that for political and $ reasons this is a partisan issue. But I would argue that on this website that we should not make this a partisan issue. I am not standing up for global warming for political reasons. I am just saying that the science that suggests that temps are rising, catastrophic weather events are rising, glaciers are decreasing in size, and the link with human activities are real. It may be a cyclical thing in the history of earth but the science stating the fact that we as a population are accelerating this can not be intellectually argued.

    That is exactly the points that a couple of the articles counter:  Temps have stopped rising (may even be cooling now), catastrophic events are lessening (just agenda and 24 hour news cycle makes it seem to be increasing), and glacial retreat has larger stopped and even increased in some areas.  

    Of course it is political and agenda-driven.  If it had been a cooling cycle --- it would have been the same thing.  Any reason to promote an agenda.  Now with 24 hour news and internet things can be promoted on a constant basis.  Like the old saying about repeating something long and often enough---folks tend to accept it as fact.

    Of course there was a period of warming, just not a man-made catastrophe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    I know that for political and $ reasons this is a partisan issue. But I would argue that on this website that we should not make this a partisan issue. I am not standing up for global warming for political reasons. I am just saying that the science that suggests that temps are rising, catastrophic weather events are rising, glaciers are decreasing in size, and the link with human activities are real. It may be a cyclical thing in the history of earth but the science stating the fact that we as a population are accelerating this can not be intellectually argued.

    That is exactly the points that a couple of the articles counter:  Temps have stopped rising (may even be cooling now), catastrophic events are lessening (just agenda and 24 hour news cycle makes it seem to be increasing), and glacial retreat has larger stopped and even increased in some areas.  

    Of course it is political and agenda-driven.  If it had been a cooling cycle --- it would have been the same thing.  Any reason to promote an agenda.  Now with 24 hour news and internet things can be promoted on a constant basis.  Like the old saying about repeating something long and often enough---folks tend to accept it as fact.

    Of course there was a period of warming, just not a man-made catastrophe.

     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2017 - 11:59 PM ET #68

    Our sun goes cycles of warming and cooking as well. This correlation and earth's warming is a known link. When 1000 ad was here Vikings could visit the orient by use of north west passage. This passage has returned with cruise river boat themes for July tourism. The ice chunk break offs have made the northern Atlantic do to iceberg advisories and water craft is being diverted south to a iceberg clear route to keep insurance costs within margins of coverage.

    Our syn warming is accelerating but to deflect attention away from the fusion reactor in the sky we devote our best minds to yes sa no sa debate.
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    Our sun goes cycles of warming and cooking as well. This correlation and earth's warming is a known link. When 1000 ad was here Vikings could visit the orient by use of north west passage. This passage has returned with cruise river boat themes for July tourism. The ice chunk break offs have made the northern Atlantic do to iceberg advisories and water craft is being diverted south to a iceberg clear route to keep insurance costs within margins of coverage.

    Our syn warming is accelerating but to deflect attention away from the fusion reactor in the sky we devote our best minds to yes sa no sa debate.
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2017 - 12:13 AM ET #69

    Without atmosphere nuetrakjzing effects the surface of the moon can rise to 327 degrees faienhiet at night or away from direct light it can cool to neg 70 f and hence the tolera ces of these conditions of direct sun exposure. When sun never sets and has degraded shielding the north piles passage is through the ancient Hudson bay route to the orient. We went through a period considered itself a mini ice age it is possible that we can go through a climate transition period. But how does the stories of the flood not repeat?
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    Without atmosphere nuetrakjzing effects the surface of the moon can rise to 327 degrees faienhiet at night or away from direct light it can cool to neg 70 f and hence the tolera ces of these conditions of direct sun exposure. When sun never sets and has degraded shielding the north piles passage is through the ancient Hudson bay route to the orient. We went through a period considered itself a mini ice age it is possible that we can go through a climate transition period. But how does the stories of the flood not repeat?
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2017 - 1:56 AM ET #70

    Of course the sun has a lot to do with it.  But as one article says---why are some of the other planets going through the same current warming cycle we are going through?
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    Of course the sun has a lot to do with it.  But as one article says---why are some of the other planets going through the same current warming cycle we are going through?
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2017 - 11:12 AM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanesque:

    Human population needs to be reduced to about 1 billion. There are too many airplane flights, human encroachments everywhere, cattle grazing, water mismangement, pollution.

    UN has already set a target of about 1 billion as "sustainable."

    How will they kill us off, I do not know.

    I actually agree with you on this. Not really sure how you implement it but it wouldn't hurt for people to stop having so many kids. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanesque:

    Human population needs to be reduced to about 1 billion. There are too many airplane flights, human encroachments everywhere, cattle grazing, water mismangement, pollution.

    UN has already set a target of about 1 billion as "sustainable."

    How will they kill us off, I do not know.

    I actually agree with you on this. Not really sure how you implement it but it wouldn't hurt for people to stop having so many kids. 
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2017 - 11:31 AM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Without atmosphere nuetrakjzing effects the surface of the moon can rise to 327 degrees faienhiet at night or away from direct light it can cool to neg 70 f and hence the tolera ces of these conditions of direct sun exposure. When sun never sets and has degraded shielding the north piles passage is through the ancient Hudson bay route to the orient. We went through a period considered itself a mini ice age it is possible that we can go through a climate transition period. But how does the stories of the flood not repeat?


    Please feel free to stop making irrelevant posts on the subject. This is about the 3rd or 4th one in this thread.

    I have said before about the flooding, it's simple. If the flooding gets bad we can just pump sea water back into the deserts of Northern Africa which has it's own beneficial consequences. Whale bones have been found there anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Without atmosphere nuetrakjzing effects the surface of the moon can rise to 327 degrees faienhiet at night or away from direct light it can cool to neg 70 f and hence the tolera ces of these conditions of direct sun exposure. When sun never sets and has degraded shielding the north piles passage is through the ancient Hudson bay route to the orient. We went through a period considered itself a mini ice age it is possible that we can go through a climate transition period. But how does the stories of the flood not repeat?


    Please feel free to stop making irrelevant posts on the subject. This is about the 3rd or 4th one in this thread.

    I have said before about the flooding, it's simple. If the flooding gets bad we can just pump sea water back into the deserts of Northern Africa which has it's own beneficial consequences. Whale bones have been found there anyways.
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2017 - 12:00 PM ET #73

    Okay a possible solution we can pump the ocean back. This has been done. Holland has a series of levies pumps and once run on wind power. What would be now the cost to upgrade a similar system in new Orleans or palm beech or Virginia beech how bout Atlantic city or Boston while you at it new York s. Carolina. How much would the endeavor you surmise as an answers the threads topic.
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    Okay a possible solution we can pump the ocean back. This has been done. Holland has a series of levies pumps and once run on wind power. What would be now the cost to upgrade a similar system in new Orleans or palm beech or Virginia beech how bout Atlantic city or Boston while you at it new York s. Carolina. How much would the endeavor you surmise as an answers the threads topic.
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2017 - 12:43 PM ET #74

    Sea Level 2000 years ago higher than today.

    An archaeological dig at a Kent fort has uncovered the coastline at the time of the Roman invasion of Britain in 43AD - two miles from today's shore............two miles


    English Heritage archaeologist Tony Wilmott said they then found a "hard surface", in a water-filled trench, which was the Roman beach.

    https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/kent/7648033.stm

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    Sea Level 2000 years ago higher than today.

    An archaeological dig at a Kent fort has uncovered the coastline at the time of the Roman invasion of Britain in 43AD - two miles from today's shore............two miles


    English Heritage archaeologist Tony Wilmott said they then found a "hard surface", in a water-filled trench, which was the Roman beach.

    https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/kent/7648033.stm

     
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2017 - 1:15 PM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Okay a possible solution we can pump the ocean back. This has been done. Holland has a series of levies pumps and once run on wind power. What would be now the cost to upgrade a similar system in new Orleans or palm beech or Virginia beech how bout Atlantic city or Boston while you at it new York s. Carolina. How much would the endeavor you surmise as an answers the threads topic.


    You don't need to worry about those places. You just make a man made reservoir somewhere in the vast North African desert. At first the water will seep into the ground and end up in aquifers deep within. Once they are filled the water can offset the net gains caused by melting ice cubes from the arctic.

    No need to upgrade New Orleans, New York, or Florida.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Okay a possible solution we can pump the ocean back. This has been done. Holland has a series of levies pumps and once run on wind power. What would be now the cost to upgrade a similar system in new Orleans or palm beech or Virginia beech how bout Atlantic city or Boston while you at it new York s. Carolina. How much would the endeavor you surmise as an answers the threads topic.


    You don't need to worry about those places. You just make a man made reservoir somewhere in the vast North African desert. At first the water will seep into the ground and end up in aquifers deep within. Once they are filled the water can offset the net gains caused by melting ice cubes from the arctic.

    No need to upgrade New Orleans, New York, or Florida.
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