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    The Delta Wave is deadlier in Trump country

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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2021 - 12:46 PM ET #101

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: VERMONT, THE MOST VACCINATED STATE HAS A CURRENT COVID 7-DAY AVG. DEATH RATE 6 TIMES HIGHER PER CAPITA THAN FLORIDA'S CURRENT 7-DAY AVG DEATH RATE.  VERMONT COVID 7-DAY AVG. CASES NOW 3 TIMES HIGHER PER CAPITA THAN FLORIDA'S.

     

     

     

    7 day average isn't as statistically significant as all data. 

    an_light According to Statista, Vermont has 56 covid deaths per 100,000 people which is lowest overall rate in the US. 

    Whereas Florida has 285 covid deaths per 100,000 which is 8th highest. 

    Harvard study found no correlation between vaccination rates and covid case rates in over 60 countries.  But author says this doesn't mean vaccines don't work. 

    Instead big picture is revealed by looking at everything.

     

     

    Solid, as always   peace_5

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: VERMONT, THE MOST VACCINATED STATE HAS A CURRENT COVID 7-DAY AVG. DEATH RATE 6 TIMES HIGHER PER CAPITA THAN FLORIDA'S CURRENT 7-DAY AVG DEATH RATE.  VERMONT COVID 7-DAY AVG. CASES NOW 3 TIMES HIGHER PER CAPITA THAN FLORIDA'S.

     

     

     

    7 day average isn't as statistically significant as all data. 

    an_light According to Statista, Vermont has 56 covid deaths per 100,000 people which is lowest overall rate in the US. 

    Whereas Florida has 285 covid deaths per 100,000 which is 8th highest. 

    Harvard study found no correlation between vaccination rates and covid case rates in over 60 countries.  But author says this doesn't mean vaccines don't work. 

    Instead big picture is revealed by looking at everything.

     

     

    Solid, as always   peace_5

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2021 - 8:00 PM ET #102

    As of November 5, 2021 the five states with the highest case rates over the last 7 days:

    AK, ND, NH, MT and WY

    To be fair, Biden did carry NH.  However, all five states have Republican governors and tons of residents who reject scientific research to their detriment.

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    As of November 5, 2021 the five states with the highest case rates over the last 7 days:

    AK, ND, NH, MT and WY

    To be fair, Biden did carry NH.  However, all five states have Republican governors and tons of residents who reject scientific research to their detriment.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2021 - 8:31 PM ET #103

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    As of November 5, 2021 the five states with the highest case rates over the last 7 days:

    AK, ND, NH, MT and WY

    To be fair, Biden did carry NH.  However, all five states have Republican governors and tons of residents who reject scientific research to their detriment.

     

     

    good point DW  peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    As of November 5, 2021 the five states with the highest case rates over the last 7 days:

    AK, ND, NH, MT and WY

    To be fair, Biden did carry NH.  However, all five states have Republican governors and tons of residents who reject scientific research to their detriment.

     

     

    good point DW  peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2021 - 7:47 PM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    As of November 5, 2021 the five states with the highest case rates over the last 7 days:

    AK, ND, NH, MT and WY

    To be fair, Biden did carry NH.  However, all five states have Republican governors and tons of residents who reject scientific research to their detriment.

    Bottom line.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    As of November 5, 2021 the five states with the highest case rates over the last 7 days:

    AK, ND, NH, MT and WY

    To be fair, Biden did carry NH.  However, all five states have Republican governors and tons of residents who reject scientific research to their detriment.

    Bottom line.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 11:43 AM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    As of November 5, 2021 the five states with the highest case rates over the last 7 days: AK, ND, NH, MT and WY

    It's getting better across the nation thanks largely to Biden's rapid delivery of and easy availability of the life-saving trump-vaccines and his admin's constant messaging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    As of November 5, 2021 the five states with the highest case rates over the last 7 days: AK, ND, NH, MT and WY

    It's getting better across the nation thanks largely to Biden's rapid delivery of and easy availability of the life-saving trump-vaccines and his admin's constant messaging.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2021 - 1:26 AM ET #106

    In October, 25 out of every 100,000 residents of heavily Trump counties died from Covid, more than three times higher than the rate in heavily Biden counties (7.8 per 100,000). October was the fifth consecutive month that the percentage gap between the death rates in Trump counties and Biden counties widened.

    Arkansas is a laggard in vaccinations.

    But Tractor Supply is selling the heck out of Ivermectin.

    https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2021/11/08/covid-correlation-trump-voters-and-death

    When dealing against the pandemic, people need to believe in medical science. Trusting in ideological misinformation can only make health issues in our society much worse. 

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    In October, 25 out of every 100,000 residents of heavily Trump counties died from Covid, more than three times higher than the rate in heavily Biden counties (7.8 per 100,000). October was the fifth consecutive month that the percentage gap between the death rates in Trump counties and Biden counties widened.

    Arkansas is a laggard in vaccinations.

    But Tractor Supply is selling the heck out of Ivermectin.

    https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2021/11/08/covid-correlation-trump-voters-and-death

    When dealing against the pandemic, people need to believe in medical science. Trusting in ideological misinformation can only make health issues in our society much worse. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2021 - 8:50 AM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    October was the fifth consecutive month that the percentage gap between the death rates in Trump counties and Biden counties widened.  When dealing against the pandemic, people need to believe in medical science. Trusting in ideological misinformation can only make health issues in our society much worse.

    Vaccination rate is the key difference in 2021.  Vaccines are effective in preventing severe illness.  But almost 40% of republican counties remain unvaccinated, compared to 10% of democrat counties according to New York times.  This situation is a national tragedy in which irrational fears of vaccines overwhelmed rational fears of a deadly virus.  It stems from disinformation from right wing media that preys on distrust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    October was the fifth consecutive month that the percentage gap between the death rates in Trump counties and Biden counties widened.  When dealing against the pandemic, people need to believe in medical science. Trusting in ideological misinformation can only make health issues in our society much worse.

    Vaccination rate is the key difference in 2021.  Vaccines are effective in preventing severe illness.  But almost 40% of republican counties remain unvaccinated, compared to 10% of democrat counties according to New York times.  This situation is a national tragedy in which irrational fears of vaccines overwhelmed rational fears of a deadly virus.  It stems from disinformation from right wing media that preys on distrust.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2021 - 5:29 PM ET #108

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    In October, 25 out of every 100,000 residents of heavily Trump counties died from Covid, more than three times higher than the rate in heavily Biden counties (7.8 per 100,000). October was the fifth consecutive month that the percentage gap between the death rates in Trump counties and Biden counties widened.

    Arkansas is a laggard in vaccinations.

    But Tractor Supply is selling the heck out of Ivermectin.

    https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2021/11/08/covid-correlation-trump-voters-and-death

    When dealing against the pandemic, people need to believe in medical science. Trusting in ideological misinformation can only make health issues in our society much worse. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    In October, 25 out of every 100,000 residents of heavily Trump counties died from Covid, more than three times higher than the rate in heavily Biden counties (7.8 per 100,000). October was the fifth consecutive month that the percentage gap between the death rates in Trump counties and Biden counties widened.

    Arkansas is a laggard in vaccinations.

    But Tractor Supply is selling the heck out of Ivermectin.

    https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2021/11/08/covid-correlation-trump-voters-and-death

    When dealing against the pandemic, people need to believe in medical science. Trusting in ideological misinformation can only make health issues in our society much worse. 

     

    goodpost

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 3:02 PM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    It's getting better across the nation thanks largely to Biden's rapid delivery of and easy availability of the life-saving trump-vaccines and his admin's constant messaging.

    The vaccines are easily the biggest game changer toward ending the pandemic.

    But almost 40% of the population are refusing to help the cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    It's getting better across the nation thanks largely to Biden's rapid delivery of and easy availability of the life-saving trump-vaccines and his admin's constant messaging.

    The vaccines are easily the biggest game changer toward ending the pandemic.

    But almost 40% of the population are refusing to help the cause.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    The vaccines are easily the biggest game changer toward ending the pandemic. But almost 40% of the population are refusing to help the cause.

    According to Stella Kyriakides, European Commissioner for Health & Food Safety, that record surges of Covid-19 case of hospitalizations in last several weeks are mainly due to infections of the unvaccinated people.

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2021/11/08/europe-coronavirus-surge-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/around-the-world/   

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    The vaccines are easily the biggest game changer toward ending the pandemic. But almost 40% of the population are refusing to help the cause.

    According to Stella Kyriakides, European Commissioner for Health & Food Safety, that record surges of Covid-19 case of hospitalizations in last several weeks are mainly due to infections of the unvaccinated people.

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2021/11/08/europe-coronavirus-surge-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/around-the-world/   

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    The vaccines are easily the biggest game changer toward ending the pandemic. But almost 40% of the population are refusing to help the cause.

     

    According to Stella Kyriakides, European Commissioner for Health & Food Safety, that record surges of Covid-19 case of hospitalizations in last several weeks are mainly due to infections of the unvaccinated people.

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2021/11/08/europe-coronavirus-surge-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/around-the-world/   

    Europe is suffering another wave.

    Winter coming and more people will be indoors for much longer periods across the northern hemisphere.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    The vaccines are easily the biggest game changer toward ending the pandemic. But almost 40% of the population are refusing to help the cause.

     

    According to Stella Kyriakides, European Commissioner for Health & Food Safety, that record surges of Covid-19 case of hospitalizations in last several weeks are mainly due to infections of the unvaccinated people.

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2021/11/08/europe-coronavirus-surge-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/around-the-world/   

    Europe is suffering another wave.

    Winter coming and more people will be indoors for much longer periods across the northern hemisphere.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2021 - 2:44 AM ET #112

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    According to European Commissioner for Health & Food Safety,  surges of Covid-19 cases and hospitalizations in last several weeks are mainly due to infections of the unvaccinated people.

    Apparently, vaccination rates are still too low against more contagious delta variant.  However rates of deaths and hospitalizations are lower than a year ago according to the Guardian.  Vaccines are working to prevent serious illness.  Portugal at 88% vaccination rate seems to be withstanding trend of rising cases in Europe.  Without vaccination and public health mitigations, the situation could be worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    According to European Commissioner for Health & Food Safety,  surges of Covid-19 cases and hospitalizations in last several weeks are mainly due to infections of the unvaccinated people.

    Apparently, vaccination rates are still too low against more contagious delta variant.  However rates of deaths and hospitalizations are lower than a year ago according to the Guardian.  Vaccines are working to prevent serious illness.  Portugal at 88% vaccination rate seems to be withstanding trend of rising cases in Europe.  Without vaccination and public health mitigations, the situation could be worse.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: According to European Commissioner for Health & Food Safety,  surges of Covid-19 cases and hospitalizations in last several weeks are mainly due to infections of the unvaccinated people.

     

    Apparently, vaccination rates are still too low against more contagious delta variant.  However rates of deaths and hospitalizations are lower than a year ago according to the Guardian.  Vaccines are working to prevent serious illness.  Portugal at 88% vaccination rate seems to be withstanding trend of rising cases in Europe.  Without vaccination and public health mitigations, the situation could be worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: According to European Commissioner for Health & Food Safety,  surges of Covid-19 cases and hospitalizations in last several weeks are mainly due to infections of the unvaccinated people.

     

    Apparently, vaccination rates are still too low against more contagious delta variant.  However rates of deaths and hospitalizations are lower than a year ago according to the Guardian.  Vaccines are working to prevent serious illness.  Portugal at 88% vaccination rate seems to be withstanding trend of rising cases in Europe.  Without vaccination and public health mitigations, the situation could be worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Apparently, vaccination rates are still too low against more contagious delta variant.  However rates of deaths and hospitalizations are lower than a year ago according to the Guardian.  Vaccines are working to prevent serious illness.  Portugal at 88% vaccination rate seems to be withstanding trend of rising cases in Europe.  Without vaccination and public health mitigations, the situation could be worse.

    Very good point.

    And that reduction in hospitalizations and deaths is despite the fact this vaccine was NOT developed to battle DELTA or other covid variants. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Apparently, vaccination rates are still too low against more contagious delta variant.  However rates of deaths and hospitalizations are lower than a year ago according to the Guardian.  Vaccines are working to prevent serious illness.  Portugal at 88% vaccination rate seems to be withstanding trend of rising cases in Europe.  Without vaccination and public health mitigations, the situation could be worse.

    Very good point.

    And that reduction in hospitalizations and deaths is despite the fact this vaccine was NOT developed to battle DELTA or other covid variants. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Apparently, vaccination rates are still too low against more contagious delta variant.  However rates of deaths and hospitalizations are lower than a year ago according to the Guardian.  Vaccines are working to prevent serious illness.  Portugal at 88% vaccination rate seems to be withstanding trend of rising cases in Europe.  Without vaccination and public health mitigations, the situation could be worse.

     

     

     

    Very good point.

    And that reduction in hospitalizations and deaths is despite the fact this vaccine was NOT developed to battle DELTA or other covid variants. 

    staying ahead of these variants with specific vaccines for each would seem impossible if almost half the population is allowing it to spread

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Apparently, vaccination rates are still too low against more contagious delta variant.  However rates of deaths and hospitalizations are lower than a year ago according to the Guardian.  Vaccines are working to prevent serious illness.  Portugal at 88% vaccination rate seems to be withstanding trend of rising cases in Europe.  Without vaccination and public health mitigations, the situation could be worse.

     

     

     

    Very good point.

    And that reduction in hospitalizations and deaths is despite the fact this vaccine was NOT developed to battle DELTA or other covid variants. 

    staying ahead of these variants with specific vaccines for each would seem impossible if almost half the population is allowing it to spread

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:   Apparently, vaccination rates are still too low against more contagious delta variant.  However rates of deaths and hospitalizations are lower than a year ago according to the Guardian.  Vaccines are working to prevent serious illness.  Portugal at 88% vaccination rate seems to be withstanding trend of rising cases in Europe.  Without vaccination and public health mitigations, the situation could be worse.       Very good point. And that reduction in hospitalizations and deaths is despite the fact this vaccine was NOT developed to battle DELTA or other covid variants.  staying ahead of these variants with specific vaccines for each would seem impossible if almost half the population is allowing it to spread

     

    You say this as if the world has vaccines ready for every variant. You do realize that vaccines are usually studied and tested for years before being released, right? You know that there are side effects to vaccines which is why they are studied for so long, right? It's not a piece of candy that just magically gets made over night with some sugar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:   Apparently, vaccination rates are still too low against more contagious delta variant.  However rates of deaths and hospitalizations are lower than a year ago according to the Guardian.  Vaccines are working to prevent serious illness.  Portugal at 88% vaccination rate seems to be withstanding trend of rising cases in Europe.  Without vaccination and public health mitigations, the situation could be worse.       Very good point. And that reduction in hospitalizations and deaths is despite the fact this vaccine was NOT developed to battle DELTA or other covid variants.  staying ahead of these variants with specific vaccines for each would seem impossible if almost half the population is allowing it to spread

     

    You say this as if the world has vaccines ready for every variant. You do realize that vaccines are usually studied and tested for years before being released, right? You know that there are side effects to vaccines which is why they are studied for so long, right? It's not a piece of candy that just magically gets made over night with some sugar.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: The vaccines are easily the biggest game changer toward ending the pandemic. But almost 40% of the population are refusing to help the cause.

     

    According to Stella Kyriakides, European Commissioner for Health & Food Safety, that record surges of Covid-19 case of hospitalizations in last several weeks are mainly due to infections of the unvaccinated people. https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2021/11/08/europe-coronavirus-surge-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/around-the-world/

    can expect this going forward for many more months  if not yrs

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: The vaccines are easily the biggest game changer toward ending the pandemic. But almost 40% of the population are refusing to help the cause.

     

    According to Stella Kyriakides, European Commissioner for Health & Food Safety, that record surges of Covid-19 case of hospitalizations in last several weeks are mainly due to infections of the unvaccinated people. https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2021/11/08/europe-coronavirus-surge-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/around-the-world/

    can expect this going forward for many more months  if not yrs

     

     
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    The President was asked if lockdowns are off the table
    as a strategy to slow the potential spread of the omicron variant.

    Biden said that lockdowns are off the table "for now."
        "If people are vaccinated and wear the mask,
            then there's no need for lockdowns."

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    The President was asked if lockdowns are off the table
    as a strategy to slow the potential spread of the omicron variant.

    Biden said that lockdowns are off the table "for now."
        "If people are vaccinated and wear the mask,
            then there's no need for lockdowns."

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The President was asked if lockdowns are off the table
    as a strategy to slow the potential spread of the omicron variant.

    Biden said that lockdowns are off the table "for now."
        "If people are vaccinated and wear the mask,
            then there's no need for lockdowns."

    hes right      though vaccinations is not 100% effective an never said to b  it is still the best defense combined with masking and social distancing

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The President was asked if lockdowns are off the table
    as a strategy to slow the potential spread of the omicron variant.

    Biden said that lockdowns are off the table "for now."
        "If people are vaccinated and wear the mask,
            then there's no need for lockdowns."

    hes right      though vaccinations is not 100% effective an never said to b  it is still the best defense combined with masking and social distancing

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The President was asked if lockdowns are off the table as a strategy to slow the potential spread of the omicron variant. Biden said that lockdowns are off the table "for now."    "If people are vaccinated and wear the mask,        then there's no need for lockdowns."

     

    If there are lock downs in the US they will be under the authority of the State and not the Federal Government.  Did we not learn anything about this the first time around?? 

    Hologram Joe's handlers cannot make a "law" or institute lockdowns on a national level.  IF it comes to that, they will make stern mandates out loud in public that hold no legal or authoritative weight and rely on the states to do their bidding.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The President was asked if lockdowns are off the table as a strategy to slow the potential spread of the omicron variant. Biden said that lockdowns are off the table "for now."    "If people are vaccinated and wear the mask,        then there's no need for lockdowns."

     

    If there are lock downs in the US they will be under the authority of the State and not the Federal Government.  Did we not learn anything about this the first time around?? 

    Hologram Joe's handlers cannot make a "law" or institute lockdowns on a national level.  IF it comes to that, they will make stern mandates out loud in public that hold no legal or authoritative weight and rely on the states to do their bidding.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    The President was asked if lockdowns are off the table
    as a strategy to slow the potential spread of the omicron variant.

    Biden said that lockdowns are off the table "for now."
        "If people are vaccinated and wear the mask,
            then there's no need for lockdowns."

     

     

     

    hes right      though vaccinations is not 100% effective an never said to b  it is still the best defense combined with masking and social distancing

     

    Yes.  And that's the other thing.  A pandemic will NEVER fully come under control -- NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT -- unless there is full compliance by the populace.

    And right now, not only is there a very large non-compliance, but actual deliberate resistance to making America safe, despite the efforts of the Biden administration.

     

     

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    The President was asked if lockdowns are off the table
    as a strategy to slow the potential spread of the omicron variant.

    Biden said that lockdowns are off the table "for now."
        "If people are vaccinated and wear the mask,
            then there's no need for lockdowns."

     

     

     

    hes right      though vaccinations is not 100% effective an never said to b  it is still the best defense combined with masking and social distancing

     

    Yes.  And that's the other thing.  A pandemic will NEVER fully come under control -- NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT -- unless there is full compliance by the populace.

    And right now, not only is there a very large non-compliance, but actual deliberate resistance to making America safe, despite the efforts of the Biden administration.

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    The President was asked if lockdowns are off the table
    as a strategy to slow the potential spread of the omicron variant.

    Biden said that lockdowns are off the table "for now."
        "If people are vaccinated and wear the mask,
            then there's no need for lockdowns."

     

     

     

    hes right      though vaccinations is not 100% effective an never said to b  it is still the best defense combined with masking and social distancing

     

    Yes.  And that's the other thing.  A pandemic will NEVER fully come under control -- NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT -- unless there is full compliance by the populace.

    And right now, not only is there a very large non-compliance, but actual deliberate resistance to making America safe, despite the efforts of the Biden administration.

     

     

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    The President was asked if lockdowns are off the table
    as a strategy to slow the potential spread of the omicron variant.

    Biden said that lockdowns are off the table "for now."
        "If people are vaccinated and wear the mask,
            then there's no need for lockdowns."

     

     

     

    hes right      though vaccinations is not 100% effective an never said to b  it is still the best defense combined with masking and social distancing

     

    Yes.  And that's the other thing.  A pandemic will NEVER fully come under control -- NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT -- unless there is full compliance by the populace.

    And right now, not only is there a very large non-compliance, but actual deliberate resistance to making America safe, despite the efforts of the Biden administration.

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2021 - 2:21 PM ET #123

    Dec 2, this just in...


    CDC statisitcal analysis just announced on CNN

     

    FACT:

    the risk of dying from covid-19 in RED states

    is 50% higher an_light

    than in BLUE states since vaccines became widely available

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    Dec 2, this just in...


    CDC statisitcal analysis just announced on CNN

     

    FACT:

    the risk of dying from covid-19 in RED states

    is 50% higher an_light

    than in BLUE states since vaccines became widely available

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Dec 2, this just in... CDC statisitcal analysis just announced on CNN   FACT: the risk of dying from covid-19 in RED states is 50% higher  than in BLUE states since vaccines became widely available

    Incomprehensible, yet it's avoidable without unnecessary and silly ideology and politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Dec 2, this just in... CDC statisitcal analysis just announced on CNN   FACT: the risk of dying from covid-19 in RED states is 50% higher  than in BLUE states since vaccines became widely available

    Incomprehensible, yet it's avoidable without unnecessary and silly ideology and politics.

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2021 - 4:57 PM ET #125

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Dec 2, this just in...


    CDC statisitcal analysis just announced on CNN

     

    FACT:

    the risk of dying from covid-19 in RED states

    is 50% higher an_light

    than in BLUE states since vaccines became widely available

    that figures

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Dec 2, this just in...


    CDC statisitcal analysis just announced on CNN

     

    FACT:

    the risk of dying from covid-19 in RED states

    is 50% higher an_light

    than in BLUE states since vaccines became widely available

    that figures

     

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