Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: In order to avoid prison, trump PROMISED American voters last year a booming economy, a massively influx of new manufacturing jobs, low unemployment - and especially a significant plunge in grocery prices!! How's he doing? US appears headed for lower economic growth, employment and higher inflation.Before 2024 election, economists warn that Trump reckless policies are risky. No surprise high tariffs, mass deportation, spending cuts and downsizing of federal work force are harmful.Now polls show most Americans disapprove of his handling of US economy. Unlike first terms, there are no adults in the room to restrain his worst impulses.
@thirdperson
Sadly true. But that is what the MAGAs voted for...
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: In order to avoid prison, trump PROMISED American voters last year a booming economy, a massively influx of new manufacturing jobs, low unemployment - and especially a significant plunge in grocery prices!! How's he doing? US appears headed for lower economic growth, employment and higher inflation.Before 2024 election, economists warn that Trump reckless policies are risky. No surprise high tariffs, mass deportation, spending cuts and downsizing of federal work force are harmful.Now polls show most Americans disapprove of his handling of US economy. Unlike first terms, there are no adults in the room to restrain his worst impulses.
@thirdperson
Sadly true. But that is what the MAGAs voted for...
Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Changing the name from Department of Defense to Department of War will move the needle in the right direction. The messed up thing is, I doubt administrations afterward will change it back. The change was somewhat pointless. A change back would be even more pointless. The idea is to send the message that the U.S. is going on the offensive. The Chinese have been waging a silent war against us for decades, and they nearly have us in checkmate. Previous administrations have allowed them to surpass us. This administration is taking a stand.
So the Chinese will shiver at the "war" instead of "defense"?
The Chinese are busy cultivating relationships that the USA haphazardly threw away under the guise of America first.
Just a clown... doing clown things
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Changing the name from Department of Defense to Department of War will move the needle in the right direction. The messed up thing is, I doubt administrations afterward will change it back. The change was somewhat pointless. A change back would be even more pointless. The idea is to send the message that the U.S. is going on the offensive. The Chinese have been waging a silent war against us for decades, and they nearly have us in checkmate. Previous administrations have allowed them to surpass us. This administration is taking a stand.
So the Chinese will shiver at the "war" instead of "defense"?
The Chinese are busy cultivating relationships that the USA haphazardly threw away under the guise of America first.
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Changing the name from Department of Defense to Department of War will move the needle in the right direction. The messed up thing is, I doubt administrations afterward will change it back. The change was somewhat pointless. A change back would be even more pointless. The idea is to send the message that the U.S. is going on the offensive. The Chinese have been waging a silent war against us for decades, and they nearly have us in checkmate. Previous administrations have allowed them to surpass us. This administration is taking a stand. So the Chinese will shiver at the "war" instead of "defense"?
The Chinese are busy cultivating relationships that the USA [ed, read: trump regime] haphazardly threw away under the guise of America first.
@kagakuotoko
Unfortunately true.
In a fair election - not rigged by extreme republican gerrymandering - Newsom will win in 2028 if he runs.
However, Congress will be divided once again, and the vengeful republicans will stubbornly vote down every effort he needs them for to repair the massive damage the MAGA-regime is doing right now (with more damage to come) including our spiraling national debt under trump's reckless regime...
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Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Changing the name from Department of Defense to Department of War will move the needle in the right direction. The messed up thing is, I doubt administrations afterward will change it back. The change was somewhat pointless. A change back would be even more pointless. The idea is to send the message that the U.S. is going on the offensive. The Chinese have been waging a silent war against us for decades, and they nearly have us in checkmate. Previous administrations have allowed them to surpass us. This administration is taking a stand. So the Chinese will shiver at the "war" instead of "defense"?
The Chinese are busy cultivating relationships that the USA [ed, read: trump regime] haphazardly threw away under the guise of America first.
@kagakuotoko
Unfortunately true.
In a fair election - not rigged by extreme republican gerrymandering - Newsom will win in 2028 if he runs.
However, Congress will be divided once again, and the vengeful republicans will stubbornly vote down every effort he needs them for to repair the massive damage the MAGA-regime is doing right now (with more damage to come) including our spiraling national debt under trump's reckless regime...
US appears headed for lower economic growth, employment and higher inflation. Before 2024 election, economists warn that Trump reckless policies are risky. No surprise high tariffs, mass deportation, spending cuts and downsizing of federal work force are harmful. Now polls show most Americans disapprove of his handling of US economy. Unlike first terms, there are no adults in the room to restrain his worst impulses.
the maga movement is ruining america
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
US appears headed for lower economic growth, employment and higher inflation. Before 2024 election, economists warn that Trump reckless policies are risky. No surprise high tariffs, mass deportation, spending cuts and downsizing of federal work force are harmful. Now polls show most Americans disapprove of his handling of US economy. Unlike first terms, there are no adults in the room to restrain his worst impulses.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: In order to avoid prison, trump PROMISED American voters last year a booming economy, a massively influx of new manufacturing jobs, low unemployment - and especially a significant plunge in grocery prices!! How's he doing? US appears headed for lower economic growth, employment and higher inflation. Before 2024 election, economists warn that Trump reckless policies are risky. No surprise high tariffs, mass deportation, spending cuts and downsizing of federal work force are harmful. Now polls show most Americans disapprove of his handling of US economy. Unlike first terms, there are no adults in the room to restrain his worst impulses.
@thirdperson
Actually most people show Americans disapprove by majority on almost all current issues, not just the economy
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: In order to avoid prison, trump PROMISED American voters last year a booming economy, a massively influx of new manufacturing jobs, low unemployment - and especially a significant plunge in grocery prices!! How's he doing? US appears headed for lower economic growth, employment and higher inflation. Before 2024 election, economists warn that Trump reckless policies are risky. No surprise high tariffs, mass deportation, spending cuts and downsizing of federal work force are harmful. Now polls show most Americans disapprove of his handling of US economy. Unlike first terms, there are no adults in the room to restrain his worst impulses.
@thirdperson
Actually most people show Americans disapprove by majority on almost all current issues, not just the economy
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: In order to avoid prison, trump PROMISED American voters last year a booming economy, a massively influx of new manufacturing jobs, low unemployment - and especially a significant plunge in grocery prices!! How's he doing? US appears headed for lower economic growth, employment and higher inflation. Before 2024 election, economists warn that Trump reckless policies are risky. No surprise high tariffs, mass deportation, spending cuts and downsizing of federal work force are harmful. Now polls show most Americans disapprove of his handling of US economy. Unlike first terms, there are no adults in the room to restrain his worst impulses.
@thirdperson
Americans disapprove by majority on almost all current issues, not just the economy
@Zeus4par
TRUE! In fact I'll have more on this soon . . .
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: In order to avoid prison, trump PROMISED American voters last year a booming economy, a massively influx of new manufacturing jobs, low unemployment - and especially a significant plunge in grocery prices!! How's he doing? US appears headed for lower economic growth, employment and higher inflation. Before 2024 election, economists warn that Trump reckless policies are risky. No surprise high tariffs, mass deportation, spending cuts and downsizing of federal work force are harmful. Now polls show most Americans disapprove of his handling of US economy. Unlike first terms, there are no adults in the room to restrain his worst impulses.
@thirdperson
Americans disapprove by majority on almost all current issues, not just the economy
In more news, Trump is changing IRS rules. No hes not changing the rules to make it better for the little people. Hes changing the rules so that the IRS can go after left wing groups, not right wing groups, just left wing groups and anybody that is a rival of his. Hes now using our govt as his own police and military force to do whatever the fuck he wants to do. Magas wont see a problem with this. We are now witnessing what the people of Germany went thru when hitler was taking over. People will finally get it, when the take over is complete.
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In more news, Trump is changing IRS rules. No hes not changing the rules to make it better for the little people. Hes changing the rules so that the IRS can go after left wing groups, not right wing groups, just left wing groups and anybody that is a rival of his. Hes now using our govt as his own police and military force to do whatever the fuck he wants to do. Magas wont see a problem with this. We are now witnessing what the people of Germany went thru when hitler was taking over. People will finally get it, when the take over is complete.
Wall street journal warns that treasury secretary has threatened to target political enemies. For example, investigations of democrat donors. Recently, IRS commissioner has been forced to resign after 2 months on the job because of refusal to provide tax information to Homeland security department. Scapegoating and suppression of dissent are among characteristics of fascism.
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@cd329 "weaponization of IRS"
Wall street journal warns that treasury secretary has threatened to target political enemies. For example, investigations of democrat donors. Recently, IRS commissioner has been forced to resign after 2 months on the job because of refusal to provide tax information to Homeland security department. Scapegoating and suppression of dissent are among characteristics of fascism.
In more news, Trump is changing IRS rules. No hes not changing the rules to make it better for the little people. Hes changing the rules so that the IRS can go after left wing groups, not right wing groups, just left wing groups and anybody that is a rival of his.
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
In more news, Trump is changing IRS rules. No hes not changing the rules to make it better for the little people. Hes changing the rules so that the IRS can go after left wing groups, not right wing groups, just left wing groups and anybody that is a rival of his.
In more news, Trump is changing IRS rules. No hes not changing the rules to make it better for the little people. Hes changing the rules so that the IRS can go after left wing groups, not right wing groups, just left wing groups and anybody that is a rival of his. Hes now using our govt as his own police and military force to do whatever the fuck he wants to do. Magas wont see a problem with this. We are now witnessing what the people of Germany went thru when hitler was taking over. People will finally get it, when the take over is complete.
EXACTLY!
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
In more news, Trump is changing IRS rules. No hes not changing the rules to make it better for the little people. Hes changing the rules so that the IRS can go after left wing groups, not right wing groups, just left wing groups and anybody that is a rival of his. Hes now using our govt as his own police and military force to do whatever the fuck he wants to do. Magas wont see a problem with this. We are now witnessing what the people of Germany went thru when hitler was taking over. People will finally get it, when the take over is complete.
Trump promotes false allegations while ignoring domestic terrorism by far right. No evidence of widespread left wing conspiracy to commit political violence according to Brennan center for justice. In the past decade, left wing attacks have killed 13 victims compared to 112 victims of right wing. Trump administration should avoid overreacting to assassination of Kirk with crackdowns to silence peaceful organizations that never organized or funded political violence. That would violate free speech rights and criminalize opposition. Suppression of dissent is among characteristics of fascism.
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@UNIMAN "Trump targeting wrong terrorists"
Trump promotes false allegations while ignoring domestic terrorism by far right. No evidence of widespread left wing conspiracy to commit political violence according to Brennan center for justice. In the past decade, left wing attacks have killed 13 victims compared to 112 victims of right wing. Trump administration should avoid overreacting to assassination of Kirk with crackdowns to silence peaceful organizations that never organized or funded political violence. That would violate free speech rights and criminalize opposition. Suppression of dissent is among characteristics of fascism.
There is an intentional ploy being forwarded by the TNC to aggressively push the project 2025 agenda while not being noticed. Trump creates theatrics in the open media to divert attention away from the real destructive erosion of the US and our rights via the objectives of project 2025 and not many are noticing. We pass off stunts like buying votes for an election of a judge as "free speech" we pass off the elimination of key government groups and organizations via Musk as "efficiency and cost savings" when the truth is the targets of these moves is to eliminate diversity, forward ultra conservative white agenda and minimize minorities and other groups. Most recently there was a book ban list created by the TNC for just one institution, that might seem minor and its just one instance but in realty that is how the scheme works, take little pieces of ultra conservative agenda and hope it is not contested, then do another and another. A book ban is not something that this country should ever allow and is anti-free speech (which seems odd since Trump campaigned hard for free speech, but for him free speech just means the ability to destroy those who are against him and his fascist approach). Systematically the project 2025 agenda is moving forward and in the process giving a strong green light to pursue singular ultra conservative Christian principals into society where it does not belong. Trump and project 2025 has turned DEI into anti-LGBTQ rage but the truth is that diversity does not mean trans rights or gender therapies and surgeries but society through the media has accepted this false flag and in the process the true meaning and purpose of DEI is being eliminated, and THAT is what project 2025 is about, the elimination of rights for minorities and non-Christian groups. Diversity is what makes society better and stronger and more accepting of everyone and that truth is being destroyed through the villainizing of the purpose by portraying the concept with only the outliers and extremes. There is a website that lists all of the books being banned, the list is 100% about DEI and race, many are a way to hide the truth about white power and agenda and critical thinking.
WSC was right, Project 2025 is succeeding at destroying America at an alarming rate. Looking forward to the midterms, which will be followed by two years of impeachments
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
There is an intentional ploy being forwarded by the TNC to aggressively push the project 2025 agenda while not being noticed. Trump creates theatrics in the open media to divert attention away from the real destructive erosion of the US and our rights via the objectives of project 2025 and not many are noticing. We pass off stunts like buying votes for an election of a judge as "free speech" we pass off the elimination of key government groups and organizations via Musk as "efficiency and cost savings" when the truth is the targets of these moves is to eliminate diversity, forward ultra conservative white agenda and minimize minorities and other groups. Most recently there was a book ban list created by the TNC for just one institution, that might seem minor and its just one instance but in realty that is how the scheme works, take little pieces of ultra conservative agenda and hope it is not contested, then do another and another. A book ban is not something that this country should ever allow and is anti-free speech (which seems odd since Trump campaigned hard for free speech, but for him free speech just means the ability to destroy those who are against him and his fascist approach). Systematically the project 2025 agenda is moving forward and in the process giving a strong green light to pursue singular ultra conservative Christian principals into society where it does not belong. Trump and project 2025 has turned DEI into anti-LGBTQ rage but the truth is that diversity does not mean trans rights or gender therapies and surgeries but society through the media has accepted this false flag and in the process the true meaning and purpose of DEI is being eliminated, and THAT is what project 2025 is about, the elimination of rights for minorities and non-Christian groups. Diversity is what makes society better and stronger and more accepting of everyone and that truth is being destroyed through the villainizing of the purpose by portraying the concept with only the outliers and extremes. There is a website that lists all of the books being banned, the list is 100% about DEI and race, many are a way to hide the truth about white power and agenda and critical thinking.
WSC was right, Project 2025 is succeeding at destroying America at an alarming rate. Looking forward to the midterms, which will be followed by two years of impeachments
American academy of pediatricians oppose Trump administration ban on gender affirming healthcare for transgender youth. Ban is based on politics or ideology instead of science or medical consensus. American psychological association warns that ban jeopardizes human rights and health of young people. Children hospital association warns ban could be a dangerous precedent restricting access to healthcare. American civil liberty union has vowed to sue government.
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American academy of pediatricians oppose Trump administration ban on gender affirming healthcare for transgender youth. Ban is based on politics or ideology instead of science or medical consensus. American psychological association warns that ban jeopardizes human rights and health of young people. Children hospital association warns ban could be a dangerous precedent restricting access to healthcare. American civil liberty union has vowed to sue government.
I actually side with restrictions on "healthcare" if that means transition surgery and hormones for minors. If someone badly wants to transition then I support having them wait until they are at least 21 and better 25 and 30 where the body is not going to be harmed from potential hormone changes and I personally think many kids/teens are not really understanding what they are taking on and that these decisions are not reversable. Let their brains develop past the age of risk before going forward with hormones and especially surgery.
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@thirdperson
I actually side with restrictions on "healthcare" if that means transition surgery and hormones for minors. If someone badly wants to transition then I support having them wait until they are at least 21 and better 25 and 30 where the body is not going to be harmed from potential hormone changes and I personally think many kids/teens are not really understanding what they are taking on and that these decisions are not reversable. Let their brains develop past the age of risk before going forward with hormones and especially surgery.
@thirdperson I actually side with restrictions on "healthcare" if that means transition surgery and hormones for minors. If someone badly wants to transition then I support having them wait until they are at least 21 and better 25 and 30 where the body is not going to be harmed from potential hormone changes and I personally think many kids/teens are not really understanding what they are taking on and that these decisions are not reversable. Let their brains develop past the age of risk before going forward with hormones and especially surgery.
Agree, let brains develop longer. They might change their minds as they get older and realize they dodged a bullet by waiting.
This surgery isnt like a woman having her tubes untied, if she changes her mind or even a guy reversing a vasectomy.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@thirdperson I actually side with restrictions on "healthcare" if that means transition surgery and hormones for minors. If someone badly wants to transition then I support having them wait until they are at least 21 and better 25 and 30 where the body is not going to be harmed from potential hormone changes and I personally think many kids/teens are not really understanding what they are taking on and that these decisions are not reversable. Let their brains develop past the age of risk before going forward with hormones and especially surgery.
Agree, let brains develop longer. They might change their minds as they get older and realize they dodged a bullet by waiting.
This surgery isnt like a woman having her tubes untied, if she changes her mind or even a guy reversing a vasectomy.
Concerns about regret among transgender youth is unwarranted. Transition is a long expensive process over years that require multiple consents by patient, doctors and parents. Gender affirming surgery is rare (under 1%) among youth. Effects of puberty blocking drugs are temporary and reversible. Survey shows 94% of transgender individuals are more satisfied with life after transition. 98% report satisfaction with medical care.
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Concerns about regret among transgender youth is unwarranted. Transition is a long expensive process over years that require multiple consents by patient, doctors and parents. Gender affirming surgery is rare (under 1%) among youth. Effects of puberty blocking drugs are temporary and reversible. Survey shows 94% of transgender individuals are more satisfied with life after transition. 98% report satisfaction with medical care.
@thirdperson I actually side with restrictions on "healthcare" if that means transition surgery and hormones for minors. If someone badly wants to transition then I support having them wait until they are at least 21 and better 25 and 30 where the body is not going to be harmed from potential hormone changes and I personally think many kids/teens are not really understanding what they are taking on and that these decisions are not reversable. Let their brains develop past the age of risk before going forward with hormones and especially surgery.
Wow, we agree on something!
Happy Holidays.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@thirdperson I actually side with restrictions on "healthcare" if that means transition surgery and hormones for minors. If someone badly wants to transition then I support having them wait until they are at least 21 and better 25 and 30 where the body is not going to be harmed from potential hormone changes and I personally think many kids/teens are not really understanding what they are taking on and that these decisions are not reversable. Let their brains develop past the age of risk before going forward with hormones and especially surgery.
We need 20 years of data to form conclusions IMO, putting out a stat without a very long time frame might be misleading. Also not sure what that means hormone therapy is reversable the impacts of injecting foreign hormones are the issue and those impacts make changes to the body and to the brain of the individual. It might take 50 years to see the flow through on these decisions.
Minors should not really be allowed to modify themselves in any fashion even if parents agree to it. The brain is not capable of understanding impacts in the long term until past 25 years of age. If minors want to be trans then they should wait to an age of maturity and have to go through enormous education and counselling if you ask me.
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@thirdperson
We need 20 years of data to form conclusions IMO, putting out a stat without a very long time frame might be misleading. Also not sure what that means hormone therapy is reversable the impacts of injecting foreign hormones are the issue and those impacts make changes to the body and to the brain of the individual. It might take 50 years to see the flow through on these decisions.
Minors should not really be allowed to modify themselves in any fashion even if parents agree to it. The brain is not capable of understanding impacts in the long term until past 25 years of age. If minors want to be trans then they should wait to an age of maturity and have to go through enormous education and counselling if you ask me.
As the smoke clears the intention, as articulated in the Project 2025 manifesto, was explicitly to destroy a functioning federal government, such that the bureaucracy didn’t interfere with the oligarchs rape of the nation. But Donald Trump is just the head of the snake. the body is the Heritage Foundation's 2025 and it writers, many who hold senior and leadership positions in Trump's administration advising him daily. They claim that these policies will make America stronger, richer and safer. Anyone feel safer or richer? To me this brand of Conservatism is just another name for Capitalism or even of Communism. In the writers view the leaders of Government and Industry know what is best for the rest of us. Make no mistake they plan to remake America into a Conservative Plutocracy. The president shows this by his actions daily.
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As the smoke clears the intention, as articulated in the Project 2025 manifesto, was explicitly to destroy a functioning federal government, such that the bureaucracy didn’t interfere with the oligarchs rape of the nation. But Donald Trump is just the head of the snake. the body is the Heritage Foundation's 2025 and it writers, many who hold senior and leadership positions in Trump's administration advising him daily. They claim that these policies will make America stronger, richer and safer. Anyone feel safer or richer? To me this brand of Conservatism is just another name for Capitalism or even of Communism. In the writers view the leaders of Government and Industry know what is best for the rest of us. Make no mistake they plan to remake America into a Conservative Plutocracy. The president shows this by his actions daily.
Agree 100%. Trump has absolutely no clue about the roots of the project 2025 and the impacts he is barely able to comprehend the names of people around him or what day it is. The era of his deep think is 10-15 years past now he is just a nasty abusive zero ego loser who lacks the understanding of considerate interaction with those you disagree with and the aptitude of not needing to be the center of attention at any cost.
I am Christian but I do not believe religion has any place in politics or outside society it is a personal and individual pursuit that is meant to forward concepts and precepts which are functional to ALL religions and ALL societies but our disgusting human nature makes religion a weapon and a divider a way to gain power and control. Project 2025 is about forcing ultra conservative Christian framework into politics and to take power, wealth and control in society. It is everything opposite of the way Christ lived his life and has absolutely zero societal value, it is extremism to dominate and debase others.
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@joe pockets
Agree 100%. Trump has absolutely no clue about the roots of the project 2025 and the impacts he is barely able to comprehend the names of people around him or what day it is. The era of his deep think is 10-15 years past now he is just a nasty abusive zero ego loser who lacks the understanding of considerate interaction with those you disagree with and the aptitude of not needing to be the center of attention at any cost.
I am Christian but I do not believe religion has any place in politics or outside society it is a personal and individual pursuit that is meant to forward concepts and precepts which are functional to ALL religions and ALL societies but our disgusting human nature makes religion a weapon and a divider a way to gain power and control. Project 2025 is about forcing ultra conservative Christian framework into politics and to take power, wealth and control in society. It is everything opposite of the way Christ lived his life and has absolutely zero societal value, it is extremism to dominate and debase others.
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