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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2025 - 3:57 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    @wallstreetcappers Agreed!    DEI is a net good that seeks to help the disadvantaged from the negative effects of many, MANY decades of prejudice/racism, etc.

    To me, it follows that those who oppose DEI, are those who wish to maintain WHITE PRIVILEDGE and the inherent, despicable prejudice toward multiple groups - despite their BS ranting to the contrary.  

    Project 2025 is denied by the convicted felon to be a part of his radical/authoritarian agenda - even though it clearly is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    @wallstreetcappers Agreed!    DEI is a net good that seeks to help the disadvantaged from the negative effects of many, MANY decades of prejudice/racism, etc.

    To me, it follows that those who oppose DEI, are those who wish to maintain WHITE PRIVILEDGE and the inherent, despicable prejudice toward multiple groups - despite their BS ranting to the contrary.  

    Project 2025 is denied by the convicted felon to be a part of his radical/authoritarian agenda - even though it clearly is!

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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2025 - 10:28 AM ET #27

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     If DEI is so great, why are there a large number of CEOs that want to get rid of it? If DEI was so great, wouldn't CEOs want to embrace it without question? Guess what, CEOs do NOT need DEI to hire the best qualified candidates. DEI is shoving racism/sexism and anti white skin color down companies throats. The fact that you had to point out those groups as part of DEI shows how ridiculous it was to push those groups ahead because they fit in the "group" that is NOT white or male. You don't need to shove DEI down companies throats in order for companies to hire the best qualified. It's wrong that a business would give a referral bonus depending on which group you mentioned was hired. That is racism in itself. 

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    @wallstreetcappers

     If DEI is so great, why are there a large number of CEOs that want to get rid of it? If DEI was so great, wouldn't CEOs want to embrace it without question? Guess what, CEOs do NOT need DEI to hire the best qualified candidates. DEI is shoving racism/sexism and anti white skin color down companies throats. The fact that you had to point out those groups as part of DEI shows how ridiculous it was to push those groups ahead because they fit in the "group" that is NOT white or male. You don't need to shove DEI down companies throats in order for companies to hire the best qualified. It's wrong that a business would give a referral bonus depending on which group you mentioned was hired. That is racism in itself. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2025 - 10:33 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: To me DEI means a large number of issues/groups some of which include- Minorities Gender neutrality (all genders being completely equal) Mental Illness Physical handicap Race Income bias Ageism Religious neutrality Caste neutrality There are so many ways to be inclusive and diverse so while LGBT deserves to be in these groups they actually already are even without defining using that moniker, yet the project 2025 narrative makes DEI ONLY about the extremist outlier which forwards their narrative and in the process all groups and categories are minimized and harmed. @wallstreetcappers Agreed!    DEI is a net good that seeks to help the disadvantaged from the negative effects of many, MANY decades of prejudice/racism, etc. To me, it follows that those who oppose DEI, are those who wish to maintain WHITE PRIVILEDGE and the inherent, despicable prejudice toward multiple groups - despite their BS ranting to the contrary.   Project 2025 is denied by the convicted felon to be a part of his radical/authoritarian agenda - even though it clearly is!

     

    Maybe this is because you see people that fit into groups based on color of skin or sexuality (which has literally nothing to do when it comes to business) and fail to see people as people and set aside skin color. Pushing DEI on business' is racist to the core. Not supporting DEI does NOT mean you want to maintain so called white privilege. Supporting DEI DOES mean you want to punish white people. Fixed it for you. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: To me DEI means a large number of issues/groups some of which include- Minorities Gender neutrality (all genders being completely equal) Mental Illness Physical handicap Race Income bias Ageism Religious neutrality Caste neutrality There are so many ways to be inclusive and diverse so while LGBT deserves to be in these groups they actually already are even without defining using that moniker, yet the project 2025 narrative makes DEI ONLY about the extremist outlier which forwards their narrative and in the process all groups and categories are minimized and harmed. @wallstreetcappers Agreed!    DEI is a net good that seeks to help the disadvantaged from the negative effects of many, MANY decades of prejudice/racism, etc. To me, it follows that those who oppose DEI, are those who wish to maintain WHITE PRIVILEDGE and the inherent, despicable prejudice toward multiple groups - despite their BS ranting to the contrary.   Project 2025 is denied by the convicted felon to be a part of his radical/authoritarian agenda - even though it clearly is!

     

    Maybe this is because you see people that fit into groups based on color of skin or sexuality (which has literally nothing to do when it comes to business) and fail to see people as people and set aside skin color. Pushing DEI on business' is racist to the core. Not supporting DEI does NOT mean you want to maintain so called white privilege. Supporting DEI DOES mean you want to punish white people. Fixed it for you. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2025 - 11:55 AM ET #29

    The extent of my "white priviledge" was two parents who gave a damn, attended parent/teacher conferences, steered me in the right direction. 

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    The extent of my "white priviledge" was two parents who gave a damn, attended parent/teacher conferences, steered me in the right direction. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2025 - 12:45 PM ET #30

    @BigGame90

     Your focus and definition of DEI is what causes divide, you equate hiring decisions as DEI and thus it should be removed, this is a false narrative and ignores the core concepts of the term DEI. Diversity does not mean only hiring decisions, I gave a partial list of what DEI means to me and none of the definition is about hiring quotas. Your side uses the outlier examples to support their project 2025 removal of ALL things DEI and identify those outlier concepts to be the full definition and that is outright deception and ignorance.

    To your complaint, I would suggest AGEISM is more of a large scale harmful concept, maybe more than the mandates that some companies might try to put in place to give more people more opportunity and make the hiring decision more than just a paper matter. I would also include race and wealth as more harmful in your example than only skin color or experience, this country has centuries of "good ole boy" network damage that includes wealth, race and gender and why would it be so awful to try and balance the equity in business and the economy? People have been elevated, white males since the start of this country and that is an abuse which caused generations of harm, generations of inequity and imbalance, so why would it be wrong to open the opportunity and economy to those who have been harmed for generations?

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    @BigGame90

     Your focus and definition of DEI is what causes divide, you equate hiring decisions as DEI and thus it should be removed, this is a false narrative and ignores the core concepts of the term DEI. Diversity does not mean only hiring decisions, I gave a partial list of what DEI means to me and none of the definition is about hiring quotas. Your side uses the outlier examples to support their project 2025 removal of ALL things DEI and identify those outlier concepts to be the full definition and that is outright deception and ignorance.

    To your complaint, I would suggest AGEISM is more of a large scale harmful concept, maybe more than the mandates that some companies might try to put in place to give more people more opportunity and make the hiring decision more than just a paper matter. I would also include race and wealth as more harmful in your example than only skin color or experience, this country has centuries of "good ole boy" network damage that includes wealth, race and gender and why would it be so awful to try and balance the equity in business and the economy? People have been elevated, white males since the start of this country and that is an abuse which caused generations of harm, generations of inequity and imbalance, so why would it be wrong to open the opportunity and economy to those who have been harmed for generations?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2025 - 1:39 PM ET #31

    I agree . Plus I’m still waiting for my 40 acres and a mule . Plus why did my relatives get kicked out of where they lived just so the Dodgers could build their stadium back in the day ? Ridiculous . Anybody complaining has had it coming . The inevitable balance of things will always happen . Can’t stop it . 

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    I agree . Plus I’m still waiting for my 40 acres and a mule . Plus why did my relatives get kicked out of where they lived just so the Dodgers could build their stadium back in the day ? Ridiculous . Anybody complaining has had it coming . The inevitable balance of things will always happen . Can’t stop it . 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2025 - 6:55 PM ET #32

    Federal judge blocks Trump administration threat to cut funding for public schools with DEI programs. This is a victory for National education association which alleges violations of teachers free speech and due process rights. There is nothing illegal about DEI. 

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    Federal judge blocks Trump administration threat to cut funding for public schools with DEI programs. This is a victory for National education association which alleges violations of teachers free speech and due process rights. There is nothing illegal about DEI. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2025 - 8:09 PM ET #33

    @wallstreetcappers

     When I hear DEI, I imagine people that originated the idea have the same mindset as post #336 in the Trump Tariffs thread. Racists.  peace_5

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    @wallstreetcappers

     When I hear DEI, I imagine people that originated the idea have the same mindset as post #336 in the Trump Tariffs thread. Racists.  peace_5

     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2025 - 12:16 AM ET #34

    @BigGame90

     Of course you do and that is working for Trump and it got you and many others to foolishly fall for his lies and schemes and vote for him. DEI is not about the outlier extremes that you consider, in falling for these lies you are harming many innocent people that are in the majority not the small minority being correlated as the majority.

    Putin stop!!! What a moron, who thinks that social media ranting will make a difference, Trump is such a fool. Stop following a delusional zero ego fool and wake up.

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    @BigGame90

     Of course you do and that is working for Trump and it got you and many others to foolishly fall for his lies and schemes and vote for him. DEI is not about the outlier extremes that you consider, in falling for these lies you are harming many innocent people that are in the majority not the small minority being correlated as the majority.

    Putin stop!!! What a moron, who thinks that social media ranting will make a difference, Trump is such a fool. Stop following a delusional zero ego fool and wake up.

     
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     I wholeheartedly agree, the only way Piss Poor Pete Drunky Hegseth got his job was because he’s a white Fake News host. That’s why the Defense Department is in shambles and books everywhere have him as the first idiot to be fired and replaced.

     

    Hegseth = classic DEI Dotard hire

     

    if you didn’t get the joke, let me know and I’ll invite you to my next Signal chat featuring attack plans! an_roll_laugh

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    @BigGame90

     I wholeheartedly agree, the only way Piss Poor Pete Drunky Hegseth got his job was because he’s a white Fake News host. That’s why the Defense Department is in shambles and books everywhere have him as the first idiot to be fired and replaced.

     

    Hegseth = classic DEI Dotard hire

     

    if you didn’t get the joke, let me know and I’ll invite you to my next Signal chat featuring attack plans! an_roll_laugh

     
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    My company that was started back in '95 doesn't have any DEI, we are an equal opportunity employer.  We don't give a crap about anyone, you are just an employee number on the spreadsheet.  You will be replaced faster than you were remembered.  All you have to do is show up on time and not on drugs.  There are workers who have ankle bracelets on, and now most new hires walk from a far because the bus line is about a mile away.  Years ago, we had to put the bloods in one section of the building and the latin kings in the other far away from each other, but thankfully the insane clown posse took care of that problem. 

    Its a great work model, treat everyone like shit then there is no favoritisms.  Every Monday they get kicked in the nuts(or insert body part) and on Friday we thank you by handing you a paycheck because everyone deserves to pay taxes 

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    My company that was started back in '95 doesn't have any DEI, we are an equal opportunity employer.  We don't give a crap about anyone, you are just an employee number on the spreadsheet.  You will be replaced faster than you were remembered.  All you have to do is show up on time and not on drugs.  There are workers who have ankle bracelets on, and now most new hires walk from a far because the bus line is about a mile away.  Years ago, we had to put the bloods in one section of the building and the latin kings in the other far away from each other, but thankfully the insane clown posse took care of that problem. 

    Its a great work model, treat everyone like shit then there is no favoritisms.  Every Monday they get kicked in the nuts(or insert body part) and on Friday we thank you by handing you a paycheck because everyone deserves to pay taxes 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    the only way Piss Poor Pete Drunky Hegseth got his job was because he’s a white Fake News host. That’s why the Defense Department is in shambles and books everywhere have him as the first idiot to be fired and replaced.   Hegseth = classic DEI Dotard hire   if you didn’t get the joke, let me know and I’ll invite you to my next Signal chat featuring attack plans!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    the only way Piss Poor Pete Drunky Hegseth got his job was because he’s a white Fake News host. That’s why the Defense Department is in shambles and books everywhere have him as the first idiot to be fired and replaced.   Hegseth = classic DEI Dotard hire   if you didn’t get the joke, let me know and I’ll invite you to my next Signal chat featuring attack plans!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    the only way Piss Poor Pete Drunky Hegseth got his job was because he’s a white Fake News host. That’s why the Defense Department is in shambles and books everywhere have him as the first idiot to be fired and replaced.   Hegseth = classic DEI Dotard hire 

    Trump is no champion of meritocracy.  His cabinet of loyalists without relevant work experience is among the most unqualified in modern history.  He doesn't want adults in the room to restrain his worst impulses.  Survey of historians rank him as the worst president in executive appointments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    the only way Piss Poor Pete Drunky Hegseth got his job was because he’s a white Fake News host. That’s why the Defense Department is in shambles and books everywhere have him as the first idiot to be fired and replaced.   Hegseth = classic DEI Dotard hire 

    Trump is no champion of meritocracy.  His cabinet of loyalists without relevant work experience is among the most unqualified in modern history.  He doesn't want adults in the room to restrain his worst impulses.  Survey of historians rank him as the worst president in executive appointments.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2025 - 10:27 AM ET #39

    Guess he shoulda said "DON'T"

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    Guess he shoulda said "DON'T"

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2025 - 10:29 AM ET #40

    "Survey of historians rank him as the worst president in executive appointments."

     Those "historians" should've seen Dementia Joe's posse. an_roll_laugh

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    "Survey of historians rank him as the worst president in executive appointments."

     Those "historians" should've seen Dementia Joe's posse. an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2025 - 12:10 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: the only way Piss Poor Pete Drunky Hegseth got his job was because he’s a white Fake News host. That’s why the Defense Department is in shambles and books everywhere have him as the first idiot to be fired and replaced.   Hegseth = classic DEI Dotard hire 

    Trump is no champion of meritocracy.  His cabinet of loyalists without relevant work experience is among the most unqualified in modern history.  He doesn't want adults in the room to restrain his worst impulses. 

    Survey of historians rank him as the worst president in executive appointments.

    @thirdperson

    Even more to your point:

    Survey of historians rank him as the worst president, PERIOD!! thejester

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: the only way Piss Poor Pete Drunky Hegseth got his job was because he’s a white Fake News host. That’s why the Defense Department is in shambles and books everywhere have him as the first idiot to be fired and replaced.   Hegseth = classic DEI Dotard hire 

    Trump is no champion of meritocracy.  His cabinet of loyalists without relevant work experience is among the most unqualified in modern history.  He doesn't want adults in the room to restrain his worst impulses. 

    Survey of historians rank him as the worst president in executive appointments.

    @thirdperson

    Even more to your point:

    Survey of historians rank him as the worst president, PERIOD!! thejester

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2025 - 12:21 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    "Survey of historians rank him as the worst president in executive appointments."  Those "historians" should've seen Dementia Joe's posse.

    Siena college survey of political scholars rank Biden as the 10th  and Trump 45th best president in executive appointments. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    "Survey of historians rank him as the worst president in executive appointments."  Those "historians" should've seen Dementia Joe's posse.

    Siena college survey of political scholars rank Biden as the 10th  and Trump 45th best president in executive appointments. 

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2025 - 12:11 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: "Survey of historians rank him as the worst president in executive appointments."  Those "historians" should've seen Dementia Joe's posse. Siena college survey of political scholars rank Biden as the 10th  and Trump 45th best president in executive appointments.

    i believe rump drops to 46 now

    an_cheers

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: "Survey of historians rank him as the worst president in executive appointments."  Those "historians" should've seen Dementia Joe's posse. Siena college survey of political scholars rank Biden as the 10th  and Trump 45th best president in executive appointments.

    i believe rump drops to 46 now

    an_cheers

     

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2025 - 11:43 PM ET #44

    an_speak  Fed expects the job market ‘to weaken substantially’ on Trump’s tariffs

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    an_speak  Fed expects the job market ‘to weaken substantially’ on Trump’s tariffs

     
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2025 - 1:32 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Fed expects the job market ‘to weaken substantially’ on Trump’s tariffs

     

    Oh great,  just what America needs 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Fed expects the job market ‘to weaken substantially’ on Trump’s tariffs

     

    Oh great,  just what America needs 

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Fed expects the job market ‘to weaken substantially’ on Trump’s tariffs  

     

    Oh great,  just what America needs

     

    @Zeus4par

    Of course. But the moron in the oval will simply blame that on Joe Biden...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Fed expects the job market ‘to weaken substantially’ on Trump’s tariffs  

     

    Oh great,  just what America needs

     

    @Zeus4par

    Of course. But the moron in the oval will simply blame that on Joe Biden...

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2025 - 1:12 AM ET #47

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     Arizona Democratic Gov. Katie Hobbs, who is up for reelection this year, garnered backlash Tuesday after vetoing a bill aimed at preventing China from buying up land next to strategic assets, such as military bases.

    Arizona state Senate Majority Leader Janae Shamp said the "politically motivated veto" was "utterly insane," blaming Hobbs for being "an obstructionist against safeguarding our citizens from threats." 

    However, Hobbs said the bill, S.B. 1109, was "ineffective at counter-espionage" and did not "directly protect" American military assets in the state.
    Chinese investment in land near military bases has become an increasing concern for national security hawks. Shamp, in her efforts to get the now-vetoed bill passed, cited recent Chinese attempts to lease buildings alongside Arizona's Luke Air Force Base, where the military trains fighter pilots.

    Whats the deal with this there?  Have you kept up with it at all?

    Any opinion?  Right,wrong? Or indifferent to it?

    peace_5

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     Arizona Democratic Gov. Katie Hobbs, who is up for reelection this year, garnered backlash Tuesday after vetoing a bill aimed at preventing China from buying up land next to strategic assets, such as military bases.

    Arizona state Senate Majority Leader Janae Shamp said the "politically motivated veto" was "utterly insane," blaming Hobbs for being "an obstructionist against safeguarding our citizens from threats." 

    However, Hobbs said the bill, S.B. 1109, was "ineffective at counter-espionage" and did not "directly protect" American military assets in the state.
    Chinese investment in land near military bases has become an increasing concern for national security hawks. Shamp, in her efforts to get the now-vetoed bill passed, cited recent Chinese attempts to lease buildings alongside Arizona's Luke Air Force Base, where the military trains fighter pilots.

    Whats the deal with this there?  Have you kept up with it at all?

    Any opinion?  Right,wrong? Or indifferent to it?

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2025 - 2:22 AM ET #48

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     a typical move given who she is , an Anti - American Communist 

     check her bank accounts , you will find top $$$ from the CCP and the Mexican Cartels 

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    @Raiders22

     a typical move given who she is , an Anti - American Communist 

     check her bank accounts , you will find top $$$ from the CCP and the Mexican Cartels 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2025 - 2:26 AM ET #49

    @Raiders22

     a Tik Tok Communist , Cartel Katie striking again 

     btw , try to buy Land in China , Good Luck 

    The Pastor of Disaster
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    @Raiders22

     a Tik Tok Communist , Cartel Katie striking again 

     btw , try to buy Land in China , Good Luck 

     
     
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     Yeah.  I just don’t know the situation there. I know @wallstreetcappers knows more about that local area.

    I just haven’t kept up with that whole issue in the USA enough.

    I sort of understand where she is coming from.  Is there more of a real threat from China than other countries?  Is it a real threat from a security standpoint?  Is it a worse situation in Arizona than other states?  
    In other words, how do you determine which can and cannot own land?  Does it change with each administration?  Do you then ‘force’ them to sell it back?

    I honestly have done no research on what is allowed in each country and how it is done.  Is this reciprocal with certain countries?  
    Maybe certain locations are more sensitive than others.  But I do not know if that is the case in Arizona or not, etc., etc.  You read on some sources and it is the worst thing possible for the country to allow it; read other places and they say the perceived threat is overblown.

    So, I just wanted a local perspective from that area on it.  

     

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    @Barbarossa

     

     Yeah.  I just don’t know the situation there. I know @wallstreetcappers knows more about that local area.

    I just haven’t kept up with that whole issue in the USA enough.

    I sort of understand where she is coming from.  Is there more of a real threat from China than other countries?  Is it a real threat from a security standpoint?  Is it a worse situation in Arizona than other states?  
    In other words, how do you determine which can and cannot own land?  Does it change with each administration?  Do you then ‘force’ them to sell it back?

    I honestly have done no research on what is allowed in each country and how it is done.  Is this reciprocal with certain countries?  
    Maybe certain locations are more sensitive than others.  But I do not know if that is the case in Arizona or not, etc., etc.  You read on some sources and it is the worst thing possible for the country to allow it; read other places and they say the perceived threat is overblown.

    So, I just wanted a local perspective from that area on it.  

     

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