Great info. I can not put my money on somebody who 'could' be indicted. She is a felon and a criminal. She is protected by the Left.
Yeah great betting advice eh? -300 Still has an opponent in the race with a path to nomination.Currently UNDER FBI investigation with an imminent decision that could lead to charges AND INDICTMENT. To be interviewed by the FBI this week. Lower vote totals than she got in 2008. Facing a Republican who will outdraw Ronald Reagan in turnout. Oh, and he has no wager on it YET. You fellas decide....Is this CAROLINA Panthers by a TD over Denver? Or is it Alabama over Clemson? .
Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:
Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
Great info. I can not put my money on somebody who 'could' be indicted. She is a felon and a criminal. She is protected by the Left.
Yeah great betting advice eh? -300 Still has an opponent in the race with a path to nomination.Currently UNDER FBI investigation with an imminent decision that could lead to charges AND INDICTMENT. To be interviewed by the FBI this week. Lower vote totals than she got in 2008. Facing a Republican who will outdraw Ronald Reagan in turnout. Oh, and he has no wager on it YET. You fellas decide....Is this CAROLINA Panthers by a TD over Denver? Or is it Alabama over Clemson? .
I don't really get this minimum wage issue. Have these democratic candidates never taken an economics course. When raise the minimum wage to $15/hr from around 8$ your almost doubling minimum wage. Where do they think this money is going to come from. Companies have margins. In order to cover ttheir rising labor cost they're going to do 1 of 2 things. Raise the prices of their products or service, or lay off employees. The money to cover the rise in wages isn't going to appear out of thin air. So a company like McDonald's will go towards the kiosk route like Sheetz to reduce their labor force. So all these people complaining about their pay will end up losing their jobs. OR.. McDonald's is going to raise the prices of all their food and the lower class (the one's who are probably making minimum wage) won't be able to afford these products now. McDonald's is just one example. I'm just kinda confused how they think this is going to be a good thing for the lower class. Maybe I'm missing something.
I read an article from Forbes that discussed the issue. They've done the calculations and the price adjustment isn't as drastic as people think. What's more likely to happen is that some businesses won't be able to sustain their business model based on the current expenditures.
However, an economist interviewed about the subject suggested that sometimes those models are bad business models and overall the market will adjust and move on. I'm not the one to argue with about it. It's just true in general that Americans are making less money on average right now than they were a decade ago. People should be frustrated.
Quote Originally Posted by StanThaCaddy:
I don't really get this minimum wage issue. Have these democratic candidates never taken an economics course. When raise the minimum wage to $15/hr from around 8$ your almost doubling minimum wage. Where do they think this money is going to come from. Companies have margins. In order to cover ttheir rising labor cost they're going to do 1 of 2 things. Raise the prices of their products or service, or lay off employees. The money to cover the rise in wages isn't going to appear out of thin air. So a company like McDonald's will go towards the kiosk route like Sheetz to reduce their labor force. So all these people complaining about their pay will end up losing their jobs. OR.. McDonald's is going to raise the prices of all their food and the lower class (the one's who are probably making minimum wage) won't be able to afford these products now. McDonald's is just one example. I'm just kinda confused how they think this is going to be a good thing for the lower class. Maybe I'm missing something.
I read an article from Forbes that discussed the issue. They've done the calculations and the price adjustment isn't as drastic as people think. What's more likely to happen is that some businesses won't be able to sustain their business model based on the current expenditures.
However, an economist interviewed about the subject suggested that sometimes those models are bad business models and overall the market will adjust and move on. I'm not the one to argue with about it. It's just true in general that Americans are making less money on average right now than they were a decade ago. People should be frustrated.
I think tho that some people have been conditioned, brain washed, prescribed, whatever to instead put the best interest of corporations before their own.
It's like in a hot desert where people of dying of thirst, when offered if they would like a drink aid water they say absolutely not. And instead they give yet another glass of water to the bloated corporations and then position themselves at the pants leg of the of the corporation that they insist on pumping full of water and wait with their mouths open for something to "trickle down".
I think that this is a battle of those that believe in technology, innovation and efficiency to be less dependent on workers and those that are terrified of competition because they lack the ability to keep up with businesses that are more cutting edge and progressive in nature.
This truly is a battle of blockbuster vs red box. And that the red box people would welcome a wage increase because it would help their business take over the market while the blockbuster Dinosaurs are trying to hold on the past with the ability to be innovative, utilize technology and run their business more efficiently and profitably.
But this neither here nor there, what is your thoughts on the topic of cashing in on Hillary and the price that you would buy in at?
I think tho that some people have been conditioned, brain washed, prescribed, whatever to instead put the best interest of corporations before their own.
It's like in a hot desert where people of dying of thirst, when offered if they would like a drink aid water they say absolutely not. And instead they give yet another glass of water to the bloated corporations and then position themselves at the pants leg of the of the corporation that they insist on pumping full of water and wait with their mouths open for something to "trickle down".
I think that this is a battle of those that believe in technology, innovation and efficiency to be less dependent on workers and those that are terrified of competition because they lack the ability to keep up with businesses that are more cutting edge and progressive in nature.
This truly is a battle of blockbuster vs red box. And that the red box people would welcome a wage increase because it would help their business take over the market while the blockbuster Dinosaurs are trying to hold on the past with the ability to be innovative, utilize technology and run their business more efficiently and profitably.
But this neither here nor there, what is your thoughts on the topic of cashing in on Hillary and the price that you would buy in at?
I think tho that some people have been conditioned, brain washed, prescribed, whatever to instead put the best interest of corporations before their own.
It's like in a hot desert where people of dying of thirst, when offered if they would like a drink aid water they say absolutely not. And instead they give yet another glass of water to the bloated corporations and then position themselves at the pants leg of the of the corporation that they insist on pumping full of water and wait with their mouths open for something to "trickle down".
I think that this is a battle of those that believe in technology, innovation and efficiency to be less dependent on workers and those that are terrified of competition because they lack the ability to keep up with businesses that are more cutting edge and progressive in nature.
This truly is a battle of blockbuster vs red box. And that the red box people would welcome a wage increase because it would help their business take over the market while the blockbuster Dinosaurs are trying to hold on the past with the ability to be innovative, utilize technology and run their business more efficiently and profitably.
But this neither here nor there, what is your thoughts on the topic of cashing in on Hillary and the price that you would buy in at?
I have no idea what any of that meant
Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
I think tho that some people have been conditioned, brain washed, prescribed, whatever to instead put the best interest of corporations before their own.
It's like in a hot desert where people of dying of thirst, when offered if they would like a drink aid water they say absolutely not. And instead they give yet another glass of water to the bloated corporations and then position themselves at the pants leg of the of the corporation that they insist on pumping full of water and wait with their mouths open for something to "trickle down".
I think that this is a battle of those that believe in technology, innovation and efficiency to be less dependent on workers and those that are terrified of competition because they lack the ability to keep up with businesses that are more cutting edge and progressive in nature.
This truly is a battle of blockbuster vs red box. And that the red box people would welcome a wage increase because it would help their business take over the market while the blockbuster Dinosaurs are trying to hold on the past with the ability to be innovative, utilize technology and run their business more efficiently and profitably.
But this neither here nor there, what is your thoughts on the topic of cashing in on Hillary and the price that you would buy in at?
I think it's about people in the hot desert with red boxes dying of
thirst,but won't take water from corporations unless they can drink it
from the pant leg of a dinosaur..or something to that effect..
Quote Originally Posted by StanThaCaddy:
I have no idea what any of that meant
I think it's about people in the hot desert with red boxes dying of
thirst,but won't take water from corporations unless they can drink it
from the pant leg of a dinosaur..or something to that effect..
I think tho that some people have been conditioned, brain washed, prescribed, whatever to instead put the best interest of corporations before their own.
It's like in a hot desert where people of dying of thirst, when offered if they would like a drink aid water they say absolutely not. And instead they give yet another glass of water to the bloated corporations and then position themselves at the pants leg of the of the corporation that they insist on pumping full of water and wait with their mouths open for something to "trickle down".
I think that this is a battle of those that believe in technology, innovation and efficiency to be less dependent on workers and those that are terrified of competition because they lack the ability to keep up with businesses that are more cutting edge and progressive in nature.
This truly is a battle of blockbuster vs red box. And that the red box people would welcome a wage increase because it would help their business take over the market while the blockbuster Dinosaurs are trying to hold on the past with the ability to be innovative, utilize technology and run their business more efficiently and profitably.
But this neither here nor there, what is your thoughts on the topic of cashing in on Hillary and the price that you would buy in at?
My favorite part of this post is the popcorn guy at the end. You're so far gone there's no coming back. Nobody has any clue what you just wrote, some things never change I guess. LMFAO.
Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
I think tho that some people have been conditioned, brain washed, prescribed, whatever to instead put the best interest of corporations before their own.
It's like in a hot desert where people of dying of thirst, when offered if they would like a drink aid water they say absolutely not. And instead they give yet another glass of water to the bloated corporations and then position themselves at the pants leg of the of the corporation that they insist on pumping full of water and wait with their mouths open for something to "trickle down".
I think that this is a battle of those that believe in technology, innovation and efficiency to be less dependent on workers and those that are terrified of competition because they lack the ability to keep up with businesses that are more cutting edge and progressive in nature.
This truly is a battle of blockbuster vs red box. And that the red box people would welcome a wage increase because it would help their business take over the market while the blockbuster Dinosaurs are trying to hold on the past with the ability to be innovative, utilize technology and run their business more efficiently and profitably.
But this neither here nor there, what is your thoughts on the topic of cashing in on Hillary and the price that you would buy in at?
My favorite part of this post is the popcorn guy at the end. You're so far gone there's no coming back. Nobody has any clue what you just wrote, some things never change I guess. LMFAO.
Don't get sucked in to betting on Trump. There is a definite political movement there - but the math just isnt there.
GL
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Do you still think the numbers are not there? Newest polls show a dead heat for HRC vs Trump in OH, PA, and FL.
Static polls numbers are one thing 6 months before an election... I prefer to follow the TRENDS... Trump continues to trend up, and HRC down. She is still facing the DOJ report, which has no upside at all.
Don't get sucked in to betting on Trump. There is a definite political movement there - but the math just isnt there.
GL
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Do you still think the numbers are not there? Newest polls show a dead heat for HRC vs Trump in OH, PA, and FL.
Static polls numbers are one thing 6 months before an election... I prefer to follow the TRENDS... Trump continues to trend up, and HRC down. She is still facing the DOJ report, which has no upside at all.
Despite the tightening of the race, Heritage Sports has not moved their lines. If the race continues to tighten, the Republican party at +190 would eventually have a positive expected value.
Despite the tightening of the race, Heritage Sports has not moved their lines. If the race continues to tighten, the Republican party at +190 would eventually have a positive expected value.
I read an article from Forbes that discussed the issue. They've done the calculations and the price adjustment isn't as drastic as people think. What's more likely to happen is that some businesses won't be able to sustain their business model based on the current expenditures.
However, an economist interviewed about the subject suggested that sometimes those models are bad business models and overall the market will adjust and move on. I'm not the one to argue with about it. It's just true in general that Americans are making less money on average right now than they were a decade ago. People should be frustrated.
The first bold part is key. Yes, the market will adjust and move on. And eventually $15 will be the new $8. It is all relative. Ignoramuses that decide to take a minimum wage job as a career choice will always be at the bottom---whining and complaining.
The second bold part is also not completely true. It is also relative. But even if you accept it as true. You have to ask why folks have not 'adjusted' and quit spending what they are not making and 'moved on'? Go to the mall or restaurants or highways on weekends. People are still out going and doing and spending.
You could make min wage $100. 'Market will adjust and move on'.
Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity:
I read an article from Forbes that discussed the issue. They've done the calculations and the price adjustment isn't as drastic as people think. What's more likely to happen is that some businesses won't be able to sustain their business model based on the current expenditures.
However, an economist interviewed about the subject suggested that sometimes those models are bad business models and overall the market will adjust and move on. I'm not the one to argue with about it. It's just true in general that Americans are making less money on average right now than they were a decade ago. People should be frustrated.
The first bold part is key. Yes, the market will adjust and move on. And eventually $15 will be the new $8. It is all relative. Ignoramuses that decide to take a minimum wage job as a career choice will always be at the bottom---whining and complaining.
The second bold part is also not completely true. It is also relative. But even if you accept it as true. You have to ask why folks have not 'adjusted' and quit spending what they are not making and 'moved on'? Go to the mall or restaurants or highways on weekends. People are still out going and doing and spending.
You could make min wage $100. 'Market will adjust and move on'.
The first bold part is key. Yes, the market will adjust and move on. And eventually $15 will be the new $8. It is all relative. Ignoramuses that decide to take a minimum wage job as a career choice will always be at the bottom---whining and complaining.
The second bold part is also not completely true. It is also relative. But even if you accept it as true. You have to ask why folks have not 'adjusted' and quit spending what they are not making and 'moved on'? Go to the mall or restaurants or highways on weekends. People are still out going and doing and spending.
You could make min wage $100. 'Market will adjust and move on'.
This is how I feel. Job pay is relative. If minimum wage is raised pretty soon police officers and fire fighters who make $17-$18 an hour are going to ask for a raise. Then the next career level up will get a raise and so on. Eventually everyone will be making twice as much, prices for goods and services will be twice as much and minimum wage positions will be stuck in the same situation as they are now. These positions are not meant to be careers. Most don't require any type of skill. That's why they are MINIMUM WAGE positions. But trying to explain anything regarding money to democrats is like explaining something to a wall. Similar to explaining anything about the environment to republicans. It doesnt surprise me though that people with no aspirations in life are constantly complaining about their income. Im sure they all got very pretty participation trophies in little league.
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
The first bold part is key. Yes, the market will adjust and move on. And eventually $15 will be the new $8. It is all relative. Ignoramuses that decide to take a minimum wage job as a career choice will always be at the bottom---whining and complaining.
The second bold part is also not completely true. It is also relative. But even if you accept it as true. You have to ask why folks have not 'adjusted' and quit spending what they are not making and 'moved on'? Go to the mall or restaurants or highways on weekends. People are still out going and doing and spending.
You could make min wage $100. 'Market will adjust and move on'.
This is how I feel. Job pay is relative. If minimum wage is raised pretty soon police officers and fire fighters who make $17-$18 an hour are going to ask for a raise. Then the next career level up will get a raise and so on. Eventually everyone will be making twice as much, prices for goods and services will be twice as much and minimum wage positions will be stuck in the same situation as they are now. These positions are not meant to be careers. Most don't require any type of skill. That's why they are MINIMUM WAGE positions. But trying to explain anything regarding money to democrats is like explaining something to a wall. Similar to explaining anything about the environment to republicans. It doesnt surprise me though that people with no aspirations in life are constantly complaining about their income. Im sure they all got very pretty participation trophies in little league.
vanzack i always thought you were smart and had a respected opinion on things. But after reading you're opinion and thought process on this years election, i have changed my opinion. You are so off and out of touch on this year's race its laughable. I hope you didnt put a dime on it so far.
vanzack i always thought you were smart and had a respected opinion on things. But after reading you're opinion and thought process on this years election, i have changed my opinion. You are so off and out of touch on this year's race its laughable. I hope you didnt put a dime on it so far.
Stan is exactly correct. The minimum wage increase is nothing more than an artificial gimmick that will have little effect other than significant inflation.
If McDonald's is now paying 7.5 to its entry level workers and is then required to pay them 15 an hour, what effect will this then have on the other workers. McDonalds will have to give the other workers comparable raises and this will have the ripple effect for all businesses (including govt jobs). McDonald's can then only stay in business by raising prices.
Despite the above reality, u would think that Bernie is the second coming for making this a platform. Ironically, it is the places who can most afford it (Seattle, California, etc) who r shouting the loudest, but as always, others will feel the brunt of any change
Stan is exactly correct. The minimum wage increase is nothing more than an artificial gimmick that will have little effect other than significant inflation.
If McDonald's is now paying 7.5 to its entry level workers and is then required to pay them 15 an hour, what effect will this then have on the other workers. McDonalds will have to give the other workers comparable raises and this will have the ripple effect for all businesses (including govt jobs). McDonald's can then only stay in business by raising prices.
Despite the above reality, u would think that Bernie is the second coming for making this a platform. Ironically, it is the places who can most afford it (Seattle, California, etc) who r shouting the loudest, but as always, others will feel the brunt of any change
I think tho that some people have been conditioned, brain washed, prescribed, whatever to instead put the best interest of corporations before their own.
It's like in a hot desert where people of dying of thirst, when offered if they would like a drink aid water they say absolutely not. And instead they give yet another glass of water to the bloated corporations and then position themselves at the pants leg of the of the corporation that they insist on pumping full of water and wait with their mouths open for something to "trickle down".
I think that this is a battle of those that believe in technology, innovation and efficiency to be less dependent on workers and those that are terrified of competition because they lack the ability to keep up with businesses that are more cutting edge and progressive in nature.
This truly is a battle of blockbuster vs red box. And that the red box people would welcome a wage increase because it would help their business take over the market while the blockbuster Dinosaurs are trying to hold on the past with the ability to be innovative, utilize technology and run their business more efficiently and profitably.
But this neither here nor there, what is your thoughts on the topic of cashing in on Hillary and the price that you would buy in at?
This post is a gem.
Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
I think tho that some people have been conditioned, brain washed, prescribed, whatever to instead put the best interest of corporations before their own.
It's like in a hot desert where people of dying of thirst, when offered if they would like a drink aid water they say absolutely not. And instead they give yet another glass of water to the bloated corporations and then position themselves at the pants leg of the of the corporation that they insist on pumping full of water and wait with their mouths open for something to "trickle down".
I think that this is a battle of those that believe in technology, innovation and efficiency to be less dependent on workers and those that are terrified of competition because they lack the ability to keep up with businesses that are more cutting edge and progressive in nature.
This truly is a battle of blockbuster vs red box. And that the red box people would welcome a wage increase because it would help their business take over the market while the blockbuster Dinosaurs are trying to hold on the past with the ability to be innovative, utilize technology and run their business more efficiently and profitably.
But this neither here nor there, what is your thoughts on the topic of cashing in on Hillary and the price that you would buy in at?
Since 2015, there has been increasing money gambled on Clinton for President. She remains a strong favorite in gambling markets which have proven to be more accurate than public polls in predicting election results according to research at various universities. So far, gambling markets have been mostly right in State nomination elections.
Since 2015, there has been increasing money gambled on Clinton for President. She remains a strong favorite in gambling markets which have proven to be more accurate than public polls in predicting election results according to research at various universities. So far, gambling markets have been mostly right in State nomination elections.
I understand how you guys feel about minimum wage but I was simply being the messenger, not necessarily the advocate for it. If Hillary ends up being elected, it's going to be a reality. I think business owners would be wise to consider reviewing their current models and figuring out how to absorb the changes. Trump is going to argue her about it anyway so we can all have a discussion after the first general debate. In fact, I can predict several of the main topics that'll be contentious between them.
1. Trump wants the minimum wage to remain the same and Hillary wants to increase it.
2. Trump believes China perpetuated a hoax about climate change to gain a competitive edge. Hillary believes it's real and wants to do something about it.
3. Trump wants to get rid of Obamacare and Hillary wants to expand upon it.
4. Trump wants to deport all of the illegal immigrants and Hillary wants to grant them citizenship.
I understand how you guys feel about minimum wage but I was simply being the messenger, not necessarily the advocate for it. If Hillary ends up being elected, it's going to be a reality. I think business owners would be wise to consider reviewing their current models and figuring out how to absorb the changes. Trump is going to argue her about it anyway so we can all have a discussion after the first general debate. In fact, I can predict several of the main topics that'll be contentious between them.
1. Trump wants the minimum wage to remain the same and Hillary wants to increase it.
2. Trump believes China perpetuated a hoax about climate change to gain a competitive edge. Hillary believes it's real and wants to do something about it.
3. Trump wants to get rid of Obamacare and Hillary wants to expand upon it.
4. Trump wants to deport all of the illegal immigrants and Hillary wants to grant them citizenship.
I think tho that some people have been conditioned, brain washed, prescribed, whatever to instead put the best interest of corporations before their own.
It's like in a hot desert where people of dying of thirst, when offered if they would like a drink aid water they say absolutely not. And instead they give yet another glass of water to the bloated corporations and then position themselves at the pants leg of the of the corporation that they insist on pumping full of water and wait with their mouths open for something to "trickle down".
I think that this is a battle of those that believe in technology, innovation and efficiency to be less dependent on workers and those that are terrified of competition because they lack the ability to keep up with businesses that are more cutting edge and progressive in nature.
This truly is a battle of blockbuster vs red box. And that the red box people would welcome a wage increase because it would help their business take over the market while the blockbuster Dinosaurs are trying to hold on the past with the ability to be innovative, utilize technology and run their business more efficiently and profitably.
But this neither here nor there, what is your thoughts on the topic of cashing in on Hillary and the price that you would buy in at?
Let me answer that question by asking you this question...
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
(Popcorn Guy Emoticon)
Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
I think tho that some people have been conditioned, brain washed, prescribed, whatever to instead put the best interest of corporations before their own.
It's like in a hot desert where people of dying of thirst, when offered if they would like a drink aid water they say absolutely not. And instead they give yet another glass of water to the bloated corporations and then position themselves at the pants leg of the of the corporation that they insist on pumping full of water and wait with their mouths open for something to "trickle down".
I think that this is a battle of those that believe in technology, innovation and efficiency to be less dependent on workers and those that are terrified of competition because they lack the ability to keep up with businesses that are more cutting edge and progressive in nature.
This truly is a battle of blockbuster vs red box. And that the red box people would welcome a wage increase because it would help their business take over the market while the blockbuster Dinosaurs are trying to hold on the past with the ability to be innovative, utilize technology and run their business more efficiently and profitably.
But this neither here nor there, what is your thoughts on the topic of cashing in on Hillary and the price that you would buy in at?
Let me answer that question by asking you this question...
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
With the candidates pretty clear as of last night.... I thought I would post about the election. My biggest bet of my lifetime was on Obama in 2008, as posted here at covers - and I have been on the right side the last 4 elections.
I am going to make this simple. I always go back to math. Sure if you watch the CNNs or Fox News of the world- you will hear really anything you want to hear. But there is one simple truth that gets drowned out in all the noise:
The US voting demographic has changed drastically in the last 20 years.
If you are a Republican running for President in 2016, you start a 100 yard dash 200 yards from the finish line. Democrats start with a 242-180 electorate lead before the race even starts because of states who are already decided. You only need 270 to win. These states are Florida, Ohio, Virginia, NC, Iowa, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, and NH. You might argue Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are on that list too, although that is probably a stretch.
There are only a handful of states that decide elections - and since the Dem is only 28 electoral votes away from winning - it means that the Dem could win Florida alone out of all of the swing states and still win the election.
The math just isnt there for Trump. He has to almost clean sweep the swing states - which is a bigger longshot than his current betting odds suggest.
In the coming months you will hear polls - and you will hear opinions. There is only one thing that matters - can Trump win the states listed above? Can he win almost all of them?
I missed the boat several times with Clinton at better odds. And laying close to -300 now doesnt excite me either - but I still think she should be about -800 or so.
Don't get sucked in to betting on Trump. There is a definite political movement there - but the math just isnt there.
GL
Outliers?
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
With the candidates pretty clear as of last night.... I thought I would post about the election. My biggest bet of my lifetime was on Obama in 2008, as posted here at covers - and I have been on the right side the last 4 elections.
I am going to make this simple. I always go back to math. Sure if you watch the CNNs or Fox News of the world- you will hear really anything you want to hear. But there is one simple truth that gets drowned out in all the noise:
The US voting demographic has changed drastically in the last 20 years.
If you are a Republican running for President in 2016, you start a 100 yard dash 200 yards from the finish line. Democrats start with a 242-180 electorate lead before the race even starts because of states who are already decided. You only need 270 to win. These states are Florida, Ohio, Virginia, NC, Iowa, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, and NH. You might argue Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are on that list too, although that is probably a stretch.
There are only a handful of states that decide elections - and since the Dem is only 28 electoral votes away from winning - it means that the Dem could win Florida alone out of all of the swing states and still win the election.
The math just isnt there for Trump. He has to almost clean sweep the swing states - which is a bigger longshot than his current betting odds suggest.
In the coming months you will hear polls - and you will hear opinions. There is only one thing that matters - can Trump win the states listed above? Can he win almost all of them?
I missed the boat several times with Clinton at better odds. And laying close to -300 now doesnt excite me either - but I still think she should be about -800 or so.
Don't get sucked in to betting on Trump. There is a definite political movement there - but the math just isnt there.
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