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    Midnight1
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2020 - 9:16 PM ET #2126

    Congress has allotted 50 billion bailout money for the airlines.

    2.9 billion was given today to Allegiant, Delta, Southwest, American, Spirit & United.

    Can't wait to see what the hotels get.

    Has anyone or know of anyone who has received their stimulus check yet?

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    Congress has allotted 50 billion bailout money for the airlines.

    2.9 billion was given today to Allegiant, Delta, Southwest, American, Spirit & United.

    Can't wait to see what the hotels get.

    Has anyone or know of anyone who has received their stimulus check yet?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2020 - 9:20 PM ET #2127

    If we are talking about the $1200 from the US Treasury. I got mine last week.

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    If we are talking about the $1200 from the US Treasury. I got mine last week.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2020 - 9:35 PM ET #2128

    Good for you sundance! 

    Hope your bowling league isn't starting up again soon. 

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    Good for you sundance! 

    Hope your bowling league isn't starting up again soon. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2020 - 10:17 PM ET #2129

    Since some states are re-opening soon, it's a great time for Trump to arrange rallies and visit those states.

    The timing is......perfect! 

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    Since some states are re-opening soon, it's a great time for Trump to arrange rallies and visit those states.

    The timing is......perfect! 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2020 - 10:36 PM ET #2130

    The price of oil is so low right now because New Jersey barber shops can't open. 

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    The price of oil is so low right now because New Jersey barber shops can't open. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2020 - 1:14 AM ET #2131

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    CEO

    of Shake Shack just returned the corporate bailout money because it wasn't needed.  Anyone else? Anyone?

    They gave it back only after being shamed!

    but I guess that’s a start!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    CEO

    of Shake Shack just returned the corporate bailout money because it wasn't needed.  Anyone else? Anyone?

    They gave it back only after being shamed!

    but I guess that’s a start!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2020 - 1:20 AM ET #2132

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    A "stay at home" protester in North Carolina had this sign on their lawn... "Libety or Tranny?"  You Can't Make This Stuff Up!


    Joe Exotic’s home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    A "stay at home" protester in North Carolina had this sign on their lawn... "Libety or Tranny?"  You Can't Make This Stuff Up!


    Joe Exotic’s home?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2020 - 3:52 PM ET #2133

    People who can work from home during this pandemic will probably continue to do so until it is absolutely safe to return.

    However, we have a huge segment of society that doesn't have that luxury. The bus drivers, cabbies, bartenders, florists etc will always be the forgotten work force in future pandemic unless we do something to change. 

    If someone is unhealthy and doesn't get care, we can all become unhealthy as we are currently experiencing. Extending healthcare to all is one obvious way to begin addressing the issue.  Children in our country have been going to bed hungry for decades. Why is that? The country that feeds the rest of the world can't feed our own children? We have vegetables and fruit rotting in the fields and milk being destroyed because we don't have the structure (or will) to get it to the needy. We can & must make the societal changes to eradicate both of these issues. 

    There will be thousands of people who will lose their jobs as a result of this pandemic & may become another member of society's homeless. If we don't help one another, who will? 

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    People who can work from home during this pandemic will probably continue to do so until it is absolutely safe to return.

    However, we have a huge segment of society that doesn't have that luxury. The bus drivers, cabbies, bartenders, florists etc will always be the forgotten work force in future pandemic unless we do something to change. 

    If someone is unhealthy and doesn't get care, we can all become unhealthy as we are currently experiencing. Extending healthcare to all is one obvious way to begin addressing the issue.  Children in our country have been going to bed hungry for decades. Why is that? The country that feeds the rest of the world can't feed our own children? We have vegetables and fruit rotting in the fields and milk being destroyed because we don't have the structure (or will) to get it to the needy. We can & must make the societal changes to eradicate both of these issues. 

    There will be thousands of people who will lose their jobs as a result of this pandemic & may become another member of society's homeless. If we don't help one another, who will? 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2020 - 7:55 PM ET #2134

    The last time Harvard got so much money, they had to accept Jared.

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    The last time Harvard got so much money, they had to accept Jared.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2020 - 10:03 PM ET #2135

    Veterans Administration Secretary Wilkie conceded to the Wall Street Journal that “We don’t have the supplies that we would have in an optimal situation, we have the supplies that we need as the CDC prescribes.”

    Really? In Charleston, SC workers that regularly come in contact with Covid-19 veterans have been given five N95 masks per week. Those who do not come in contact as much get two N95 masks to use covering a 4 week period.

    WTF? Where are all the masks this administration has promised?

    I am so farking pissed! I'm going hunting to find some to send there.

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    Veterans Administration Secretary Wilkie conceded to the Wall Street Journal that “We don’t have the supplies that we would have in an optimal situation, we have the supplies that we need as the CDC prescribes.”

    Really? In Charleston, SC workers that regularly come in contact with Covid-19 veterans have been given five N95 masks per week. Those who do not come in contact as much get two N95 masks to use covering a 4 week period.

    WTF? Where are all the masks this administration has promised?

    I am so farking pissed! I'm going hunting to find some to send there.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2020 - 10:21 PM ET #2136

    Outrageous....$24.51 for 2 farking masks on Amazon.

    Price gouging scumbags.

    I'm going to find some tomorrow somewhere. These healthcare workers are taking care of our veterans & they have to reuse farking masks?

    It's a farking national disgrace!

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    Outrageous....$24.51 for 2 farking masks on Amazon.

    Price gouging scumbags.

    I'm going to find some tomorrow somewhere. These healthcare workers are taking care of our veterans & they have to reuse farking masks?

    It's a farking national disgrace!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2020 - 12:48 PM ET #2137

    Disturbing that Trump is willing to sacrifice Americans for selfish political gain.  He talks about reopening US economy prematurely while ignoring the bigger picture.  As a nation, US is not even close to flattening coronavirus curve although a few states have.  Now Center for disease control warns of a potentially greater crisis when second wave of coronavirus overlaps with flu season to overwhelm healthcare system.  Previously, Trump ignores coronavirus warnings from Center for disease control in January.  If more people get flu vaccination early, perhaps there may be more hospital beds available later.

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    Disturbing that Trump is willing to sacrifice Americans for selfish political gain.  He talks about reopening US economy prematurely while ignoring the bigger picture.  As a nation, US is not even close to flattening coronavirus curve although a few states have.  Now Center for disease control warns of a potentially greater crisis when second wave of coronavirus overlaps with flu season to overwhelm healthcare system.  Previously, Trump ignores coronavirus warnings from Center for disease control in January.  If more people get flu vaccination early, perhaps there may be more hospital beds available later.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2020 - 3:32 PM ET #2138

    I got some N95 masks for the VA Medical Center in Charleston, SC & they will be shipped directly to the facility. They needs tons of stuff. If you want to help it's the Medical Center on Bee Street. You can talk with Gloria in the donation department.

    They also need boxes of rags & paper towels. I'm waiting for a local Costco to call me back to see if we can make this happen.  

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    I got some N95 masks for the VA Medical Center in Charleston, SC & they will be shipped directly to the facility. They needs tons of stuff. If you want to help it's the Medical Center on Bee Street. You can talk with Gloria in the donation department.

    They also need boxes of rags & paper towels. I'm waiting for a local Costco to call me back to see if we can make this happen.  

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2020 - 9:26 PM ET #2139

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - On January 21, the day the first U.S. case of coronavirus was reported, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services appeared on Fox News to report the latest on the disease as it ravaged China. Alex Azar, a 52-year-old lawyer and former drug industry executive, assured Americans the U.S. government was prepared.

    “We developed a diagnostic test at the CDC, so we can confirm if somebody has this,” Azar said. “We will be spreading that diagnostic around the country so that we are able to do rapid testing on site.”

    While coronavirus in Wuhan, China, was “potentially serious,” Azar assured viewers in America, it “was one for which we have a playbook.”

    Azar’s initial comments misfired on two fronts. Like many U.S. officials, from President Donald Trump on down, he underestimated the pandemic’s severity. He also overestimated his agency’s preparedness.

    As is now widely known, two agencies Azar oversaw as HHS secretary, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration, wouldn’t come up with viable tests for five and half weeks, even as other countries and the World Health Organization had already prepared their own.

    Shortly after his televised comments, Azar tapped a trusted aide with minimal public health experience to lead the agency’s day-to-day response to COVID-19. The aide, Brian Harrison, had joined the department after running a dog-breeding business for six years. Five sources say some officials in the White House derisively called him “the dog breeder.”

    Azar’s optimistic public pronouncement and choice of an inexperienced manager are emblematic of his agency’s oft-troubled response to the crisis. His HHS is a behemoth department, overseeing almost every federal public health agency in the country, with a $1.3 trillion budget that exceeds the gross national product of most countries.

    Azar and his top deputies oversaw health agencies that were slow to alert the public to the magnitude of the crisis, to produce a test to tell patients if they were sick, and to provide protective masks to hospitals even as physicians pleaded for them.

    The first test created by the CDC, meant to be used by other labs, was plagued by a glitch that rendered it useless and wasn’t fixed for weeks. It wasn’t until March that tests by other labs went into production. The lack of tests “limited hospitals’ ability to monitor the health of patients and staff,” the HHS Inspector General said in a report this month. The equipment shortage “put staff and patients at risk.”

    A promised virus surveillance program failed to take root, despite assurances Azar gave to Congress. Rather than share information, three current and three former government officials told Reuters, Azar and top staff sidelined key agencies that could have played a higher-profile role in addressing the pandemic. “It was a mess,” said a White House official who worked with HHS.

    Officials across the government, from President Trump on down, have been blasted for America’s halting response to the pandemic. Critics inside and outside the administration say a meaningful share of the responsibility lies with HHS and Trump appointee Azar.

    “You have to blame the problem on the virus, but it’s Azar’s operation,” said Lynn Goldman, the dean of the public health school at George Washington University, who has served on advisory boards of the FDA and CDC. “And the buck stops there.”

    HHS declined to make Azar available for an interview. Michael Caputo, the new chief HHS spokesman, declined to answer Reuters questions about Azar’s stewardship, saying in a statement: “We are communicating to the American public during a deadly pandemic.”

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    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - On January 21, the day the first U.S. case of coronavirus was reported, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services appeared on Fox News to report the latest on the disease as it ravaged China. Alex Azar, a 52-year-old lawyer and former drug industry executive, assured Americans the U.S. government was prepared.

    “We developed a diagnostic test at the CDC, so we can confirm if somebody has this,” Azar said. “We will be spreading that diagnostic around the country so that we are able to do rapid testing on site.”

    While coronavirus in Wuhan, China, was “potentially serious,” Azar assured viewers in America, it “was one for which we have a playbook.”

    Azar’s initial comments misfired on two fronts. Like many U.S. officials, from President Donald Trump on down, he underestimated the pandemic’s severity. He also overestimated his agency’s preparedness.

    As is now widely known, two agencies Azar oversaw as HHS secretary, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration, wouldn’t come up with viable tests for five and half weeks, even as other countries and the World Health Organization had already prepared their own.

    Shortly after his televised comments, Azar tapped a trusted aide with minimal public health experience to lead the agency’s day-to-day response to COVID-19. The aide, Brian Harrison, had joined the department after running a dog-breeding business for six years. Five sources say some officials in the White House derisively called him “the dog breeder.”

    Azar’s optimistic public pronouncement and choice of an inexperienced manager are emblematic of his agency’s oft-troubled response to the crisis. His HHS is a behemoth department, overseeing almost every federal public health agency in the country, with a $1.3 trillion budget that exceeds the gross national product of most countries.

    Azar and his top deputies oversaw health agencies that were slow to alert the public to the magnitude of the crisis, to produce a test to tell patients if they were sick, and to provide protective masks to hospitals even as physicians pleaded for them.

    The first test created by the CDC, meant to be used by other labs, was plagued by a glitch that rendered it useless and wasn’t fixed for weeks. It wasn’t until March that tests by other labs went into production. The lack of tests “limited hospitals’ ability to monitor the health of patients and staff,” the HHS Inspector General said in a report this month. The equipment shortage “put staff and patients at risk.”

    A promised virus surveillance program failed to take root, despite assurances Azar gave to Congress. Rather than share information, three current and three former government officials told Reuters, Azar and top staff sidelined key agencies that could have played a higher-profile role in addressing the pandemic. “It was a mess,” said a White House official who worked with HHS.

    Officials across the government, from President Trump on down, have been blasted for America’s halting response to the pandemic. Critics inside and outside the administration say a meaningful share of the responsibility lies with HHS and Trump appointee Azar.

    “You have to blame the problem on the virus, but it’s Azar’s operation,” said Lynn Goldman, the dean of the public health school at George Washington University, who has served on advisory boards of the FDA and CDC. “And the buck stops there.”

    HHS declined to make Azar available for an interview. Michael Caputo, the new chief HHS spokesman, declined to answer Reuters questions about Azar’s stewardship, saying in a statement: “We are communicating to the American public during a deadly pandemic.”

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2020 - 9:38 PM ET #2140

    Azar is a Republican lawyer who once clerked for the late conservative Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia and counts current Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh as a friend. Under George W. Bush, Azar worked for HHS as general counsel and deputy secretary. During the Obama years, he cycled through the private sector as a pharmaceutical company lobbyist and executive for Eli Lilly. After Trump’s first HHS secretary was forced out in a travel corruption scandal, Azar stepped in, in January 2018.

    Two years later, at the dawn of the coronavirus crisis, Azar appointed his most trusted aide and chief of staff, Harrison, as HHS’s main coordinator for the government’s response to the virus. 

    Harrison, 37, was an unusual choice, with no formal education in public health, management, or medicine and with only limited experience in the fields. In 2006, he joined HHS in a one-year stint as a “Confidential Assistant” to Azar, who was then deputy secretary. He also had posts working for Vice President Dick Cheney, the Department of Defense and a Washington public relations company.

    Before joining the Trump Administration in January 2018, Harrison’s official HHS biography says, he “ran a small business in Texas.” The biography does not disclose the name or nature of that business, but his personal financial disclosure forms show that from 2012 until 2018 he ran a company called Dallas Labradoodles.

    The company sells Australian Labradoodles, a breed that is a cross between a Labrador Retriever and a Poodle. He sold it in April 2018, his financial disclosure form said. HHS emailed Reuters that the sales price was $225,000.

    At HHS, Harrison was initially deputy chief of staff before being promoted, in the summer of 2019, to replace Azar’s first chief of staff, Peter Urbanowicz, an experienced hospital executive with decades of experience in public health.

    This January, Harrison became a key manager of the HHS virus response. “Everyone had to report up through him,” said one HHS official.

    One questionable decision, three sources say, came that month, after the White House announced it was convening a coronavirus task force. The HHS role was to muster resources from key public health agencies: the CDC, FDA, National Institutes of Health, Office of Global Affairs and the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response.

    Harrison decided, the sources say, to exclude FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn from the task force. “He said he didn’t need to be included,” said one official with knowledge of the matter.

    When task force members were announced January 29, neither Hahn nor the FDA were included. Hahn wasn’t put on the task force until Vice President Mike Pence took over in February. Two of Hahn’s high-profile counterparts were on it from the start: CDC director Robert Redfield and Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

    The HHS denied it was Harrison’s decision to leave out Hahn and the FDA, but declined to say who made the call. The agency lauded Harrison’s work on the task force.

     

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    Azar is a Republican lawyer who once clerked for the late conservative Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia and counts current Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh as a friend. Under George W. Bush, Azar worked for HHS as general counsel and deputy secretary. During the Obama years, he cycled through the private sector as a pharmaceutical company lobbyist and executive for Eli Lilly. After Trump’s first HHS secretary was forced out in a travel corruption scandal, Azar stepped in, in January 2018.

    Two years later, at the dawn of the coronavirus crisis, Azar appointed his most trusted aide and chief of staff, Harrison, as HHS’s main coordinator for the government’s response to the virus. 

    Harrison, 37, was an unusual choice, with no formal education in public health, management, or medicine and with only limited experience in the fields. In 2006, he joined HHS in a one-year stint as a “Confidential Assistant” to Azar, who was then deputy secretary. He also had posts working for Vice President Dick Cheney, the Department of Defense and a Washington public relations company.

    Before joining the Trump Administration in January 2018, Harrison’s official HHS biography says, he “ran a small business in Texas.” The biography does not disclose the name or nature of that business, but his personal financial disclosure forms show that from 2012 until 2018 he ran a company called Dallas Labradoodles.

    The company sells Australian Labradoodles, a breed that is a cross between a Labrador Retriever and a Poodle. He sold it in April 2018, his financial disclosure form said. HHS emailed Reuters that the sales price was $225,000.

    At HHS, Harrison was initially deputy chief of staff before being promoted, in the summer of 2019, to replace Azar’s first chief of staff, Peter Urbanowicz, an experienced hospital executive with decades of experience in public health.

    This January, Harrison became a key manager of the HHS virus response. “Everyone had to report up through him,” said one HHS official.

    One questionable decision, three sources say, came that month, after the White House announced it was convening a coronavirus task force. The HHS role was to muster resources from key public health agencies: the CDC, FDA, National Institutes of Health, Office of Global Affairs and the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response.

    Harrison decided, the sources say, to exclude FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn from the task force. “He said he didn’t need to be included,” said one official with knowledge of the matter.

    When task force members were announced January 29, neither Hahn nor the FDA were included. Hahn wasn’t put on the task force until Vice President Mike Pence took over in February. Two of Hahn’s high-profile counterparts were on it from the start: CDC director Robert Redfield and Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

    The HHS denied it was Harrison’s decision to leave out Hahn and the FDA, but declined to say who made the call. The agency lauded Harrison’s work on the task force.

     

     
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    In a statement, Hahn said the FDA was focused on the coronavirus epidemic, “not on when we were added to the task force,” and that the agency was not “excluded.”

    Fauci, who has become a public face of the Trump Administration’s COVID-19 effort, said he wasn’t sure including the FDA was necessary at the start. Initially, the Chinese government was saying the virus spread through animals, not human to human, he said. “You would include the FDA when you want to expedite drugs or devices,” Fauci said.

    Others said the lack of a strong FDA role early on had direct consequences. Two sources familiar with events say the White House wasn’t getting information from the FDA about the state of the testing effort, a crucial element of the coronavirus response.

    Reached by phone, Harrison declined to answer Reuters’ questions. In a later statement, he did not address questions about the task force but said he was proud of his work history. “Americans would be well served by having more government officials who have started and worked in small family businesses and fewer trying to use that experience to attack them and distort the record,” he wrote.

    In a statement to Reuters, Azar said Harrison has been an asset. “From day one, Brian has demonstrated remarkable leadership and managerial talents,” Azar wrote.

    In the pandemic’s early days, Azar offered words of both concern and assurance in public. On January 31, a day after the WHO declared COVID-19 a global health emergency, Azar declared it a public health emergency.

    That same day, during the first Coronavirus Task Force briefing, Azar told the public: “I want to stress: The risk of infection for Americans remains low.”

    The United States, he said, had taken adequate precautions. Travel restrictions and 14-day quarantines on Americans who had been to Wuhan, where the virus originated, were imposed. Americans returning from other parts of China had to self-quarantine.

    The next week, on February 7, in another press conference, Azar repeated the message. “The immediate risk to the American public is low at this time,” he announced.

    Behind the scenes, his aides say, Azar had alerted the White House in early January, and then later that month spoke directly to the president. It is unclear exactly what Azar told the president, because transcripts are not available.

    “There’s a lot of CYA going on,” said one senior administration official, who said Azar never spelled out that stockpiles of protective equipment might be inadequate or the tests were not working. “We were told the test was ready. That turned out to be flat-out wrong.”

    Trump denied Azar sent out alarms. “@SecAzar told me nothing until later,” he tweeted earlier this month.

    Meanwhile, Azar continued to say “the immediate risk” to Americans was low and that travel restrictions had worked. “So I think so far, our measures have been quite effective,” he told NPR on February 14.

    Others were raising alarms. “It’s not so much of a question of if this will happen any more, but rather more of a question of exactly when this will happen,” Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said at a February 25 news briefing.

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    In a statement, Hahn said the FDA was focused on the coronavirus epidemic, “not on when we were added to the task force,” and that the agency was not “excluded.”

    Fauci, who has become a public face of the Trump Administration’s COVID-19 effort, said he wasn’t sure including the FDA was necessary at the start. Initially, the Chinese government was saying the virus spread through animals, not human to human, he said. “You would include the FDA when you want to expedite drugs or devices,” Fauci said.

    Others said the lack of a strong FDA role early on had direct consequences. Two sources familiar with events say the White House wasn’t getting information from the FDA about the state of the testing effort, a crucial element of the coronavirus response.

    Reached by phone, Harrison declined to answer Reuters’ questions. In a later statement, he did not address questions about the task force but said he was proud of his work history. “Americans would be well served by having more government officials who have started and worked in small family businesses and fewer trying to use that experience to attack them and distort the record,” he wrote.

    In a statement to Reuters, Azar said Harrison has been an asset. “From day one, Brian has demonstrated remarkable leadership and managerial talents,” Azar wrote.

    In the pandemic’s early days, Azar offered words of both concern and assurance in public. On January 31, a day after the WHO declared COVID-19 a global health emergency, Azar declared it a public health emergency.

    That same day, during the first Coronavirus Task Force briefing, Azar told the public: “I want to stress: The risk of infection for Americans remains low.”

    The United States, he said, had taken adequate precautions. Travel restrictions and 14-day quarantines on Americans who had been to Wuhan, where the virus originated, were imposed. Americans returning from other parts of China had to self-quarantine.

    The next week, on February 7, in another press conference, Azar repeated the message. “The immediate risk to the American public is low at this time,” he announced.

    Behind the scenes, his aides say, Azar had alerted the White House in early January, and then later that month spoke directly to the president. It is unclear exactly what Azar told the president, because transcripts are not available.

    “There’s a lot of CYA going on,” said one senior administration official, who said Azar never spelled out that stockpiles of protective equipment might be inadequate or the tests were not working. “We were told the test was ready. That turned out to be flat-out wrong.”

    Trump denied Azar sent out alarms. “@SecAzar told me nothing until later,” he tweeted earlier this month.

    Meanwhile, Azar continued to say “the immediate risk” to Americans was low and that travel restrictions had worked. “So I think so far, our measures have been quite effective,” he told NPR on February 14.

    Others were raising alarms. “It’s not so much of a question of if this will happen any more, but rather more of a question of exactly when this will happen,” Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said at a February 25 news briefing.

     
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    Responding to Congressional concerns, Azar said HHS had launched a coronavirus surveillance system in five cities. The plan was to test patients who showed up with flu symptoms, to see if they actually were infected with the novel coronavirus.

    But the system was either delayed or not implemented in the cities and now is seen by epidemiologists as irrelevant given the massive community spread and continued inadequate testing.

    By the end of February, Azar sought more money to attack the crisis as he testified before Congress. “This is an unprecedented potentially severe health challenge globally, and will require additional measures,” he said.

    Still, he assured senators his agency was in control. “We have enacted the most aggressive containment measures in the history of our country,” he said.

    He again provided words of calm, appearing on Fox News. “But thanks to President Trump’s historically aggressive containment efforts, we’ve actually contained the spread of this virus here in the United States at this point,” he said February 25. “I think part of the message to the American people is we all need to take a bit of deep breath here.”

    “The government is working on this. You’ve got the right people on this.”

    By the end of February, Azar and Harrison were no longer running the White House task force. That month, Vice President Pence took control. The FDA and Hahn are now actively involved. A Pence spokesperson said the issue of precluding the FDA from the task force “pre-dates the VP’s leadership” and declined further comment.

    Azar seemed caught off guard by the change. “I’m still chairman of the task force,” he told the press after Pence took over. 

    Given Azar’s early struggles, the White House should have taken a stronger role over the task force from the outset, said Ashish Jha, director of Harvard University’s Global Health Institute. “It was very clear that Azar wasn’t able to marshal the forces across the government like he needed to,” he said.

    Jeffrey Flier, a former Harvard Medical School dean, said the HHS role remains as vital as ever. As of Wednesday, over 47,000 Americans have died of COVID-19, and more than 830,000 have been infected.

    “Clearly there was a need for better coordination of the FDA and CDC and other agencies,” he said. “HHS has to be operating effectively in a crisis like this.”

    What a disaster!

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    Responding to Congressional concerns, Azar said HHS had launched a coronavirus surveillance system in five cities. The plan was to test patients who showed up with flu symptoms, to see if they actually were infected with the novel coronavirus.

    But the system was either delayed or not implemented in the cities and now is seen by epidemiologists as irrelevant given the massive community spread and continued inadequate testing.

    By the end of February, Azar sought more money to attack the crisis as he testified before Congress. “This is an unprecedented potentially severe health challenge globally, and will require additional measures,” he said.

    Still, he assured senators his agency was in control. “We have enacted the most aggressive containment measures in the history of our country,” he said.

    He again provided words of calm, appearing on Fox News. “But thanks to President Trump’s historically aggressive containment efforts, we’ve actually contained the spread of this virus here in the United States at this point,” he said February 25. “I think part of the message to the American people is we all need to take a bit of deep breath here.”

    “The government is working on this. You’ve got the right people on this.”

    By the end of February, Azar and Harrison were no longer running the White House task force. That month, Vice President Pence took control. The FDA and Hahn are now actively involved. A Pence spokesperson said the issue of precluding the FDA from the task force “pre-dates the VP’s leadership” and declined further comment.

    Azar seemed caught off guard by the change. “I’m still chairman of the task force,” he told the press after Pence took over. 

    Given Azar’s early struggles, the White House should have taken a stronger role over the task force from the outset, said Ashish Jha, director of Harvard University’s Global Health Institute. “It was very clear that Azar wasn’t able to marshal the forces across the government like he needed to,” he said.

    Jeffrey Flier, a former Harvard Medical School dean, said the HHS role remains as vital as ever. As of Wednesday, over 47,000 Americans have died of COVID-19, and more than 830,000 have been infected.

    “Clearly there was a need for better coordination of the FDA and CDC and other agencies,” he said. “HHS has to be operating effectively in a crisis like this.”

    What a disaster!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2020 - 10:07 PM ET #2143

    I sought the LORD, and he answered me,delivered me from all my fears. Psalms 34:5 Marco Rubio's daily religious tweet.

     

    Midnight1 Psalms 24:7..... I sought the Lord and he said Press 1 for English and 2 for Spanish.

     

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    I sought the LORD, and he answered me,delivered me from all my fears. Psalms 34:5 Marco Rubio's daily religious tweet.

     

    Midnight1 Psalms 24:7..... I sought the Lord and he said Press 1 for English and 2 for Spanish.

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2020 - 3:43 PM ET #2144

    Gov. Cuomo really letting Sen. Mitch McConnell have it. He says that New York State contributes $116 Billion more to the federal budget than it takes from it whereas Kentucky takes more from the federal government than it puts in by more than that amount.

    McConnell favors states declaring bankruptcy. 

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    Gov. Cuomo really letting Sen. Mitch McConnell have it. He says that New York State contributes $116 Billion more to the federal budget than it takes from it whereas Kentucky takes more from the federal government than it puts in by more than that amount.

    McConnell favors states declaring bankruptcy. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2020 - 3:48 PM ET #2145

    Moscow Mitch should be reminded that blue states drive the economy and the red states wouldn't survive without them.

    9 out of 10 red states are the poorest in the country.

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    Moscow Mitch should be reminded that blue states drive the economy and the red states wouldn't survive without them.

    9 out of 10 red states are the poorest in the country.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2020 - 5:13 PM ET #2146

    When HHS Secretary Azar was looking for a right hand man, he wanted someone comfortable around labs.

    Who knew he meant labradoodles?

    Yup...hiring the best and brightest.

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    When HHS Secretary Azar was looking for a right hand man, he wanted someone comfortable around labs.

    Who knew he meant labradoodles?

    Yup...hiring the best and brightest.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I got some N95 masks for the VA Medical Center in Charleston, SC & they will be shipped directly to the facility. They needs tons of stuff. If you want to help it's the Medical Center on Bee Street. You can talk with Gloria in the donation department. They also need boxes of rags & paper towels. I'm waiting for a local Costco to call me back to see if we can make this happen.

    Midnite -  can you give me some more details on this - I would like to do something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I got some N95 masks for the VA Medical Center in Charleston, SC & they will be shipped directly to the facility. They needs tons of stuff. If you want to help it's the Medical Center on Bee Street. You can talk with Gloria in the donation department. They also need boxes of rags & paper towels. I'm waiting for a local Costco to call me back to see if we can make this happen.

    Midnite -  can you give me some more details on this - I would like to do something.

     
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    Snorkel..I heard about their need on TV. I thought it was outrageous the medical & administrative teams had to use the same N95 masks for weeks. With my sister's help (she worked with Pfizer & has a bunch of vendor contacts) we were able to source 200 masks for the location. However, the local Costco would not work with me to purchase boxes of rags they need to wipe everything down or paper towels. Because I'm not local in South Carolina, they wouldn't allow me to make the purchase. My wife thinks it's because we live in Florida, the Fraud Capital of the USA. 

    I would definitely not send money! However, if you want to put a care package together & ship to the Medical Center, the vets need just about everything. There's a long list on their website (charleston.va.gov/giving). These VA centers don't have the autonomy to call a Walmart & order shit. They depend heavily on donations. They love ball caps of all types : NBA, NFL, MLB & especially NASCAR hats are real popular. You can get them for $8-10 or even cheaper in the Dollar Stores.  Believe it or not, they need stamps to mail stuff. The stamps are controlled by the admin group who also makes sure the items get mailed. 

    They need wash clothes but they won't accept used stuff. Hand sanitizer is also needed but that shit is so expensive now, you can get more bang for your bucks getting stuff I mentioned like the hats. 

    The website has a contact ph# for donations & I would definitely speak with someone before sending anything. I initially spoke with Gloria and then Mary. Don't be surprised if you get voicemail or the phone goes unanswered. They're pretty busy. I wish I could have purchased more masks but beggars can't be choosy & I was happy we got what we got.

    Glad to hear you're interested in helping those who can't help themselves at this time in their lives. Let me know if you need more info...an_cheers

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    Snorkel..I heard about their need on TV. I thought it was outrageous the medical & administrative teams had to use the same N95 masks for weeks. With my sister's help (she worked with Pfizer & has a bunch of vendor contacts) we were able to source 200 masks for the location. However, the local Costco would not work with me to purchase boxes of rags they need to wipe everything down or paper towels. Because I'm not local in South Carolina, they wouldn't allow me to make the purchase. My wife thinks it's because we live in Florida, the Fraud Capital of the USA. 

    I would definitely not send money! However, if you want to put a care package together & ship to the Medical Center, the vets need just about everything. There's a long list on their website (charleston.va.gov/giving). These VA centers don't have the autonomy to call a Walmart & order shit. They depend heavily on donations. They love ball caps of all types : NBA, NFL, MLB & especially NASCAR hats are real popular. You can get them for $8-10 or even cheaper in the Dollar Stores.  Believe it or not, they need stamps to mail stuff. The stamps are controlled by the admin group who also makes sure the items get mailed. 

    They need wash clothes but they won't accept used stuff. Hand sanitizer is also needed but that shit is so expensive now, you can get more bang for your bucks getting stuff I mentioned like the hats. 

    The website has a contact ph# for donations & I would definitely speak with someone before sending anything. I initially spoke with Gloria and then Mary. Don't be surprised if you get voicemail or the phone goes unanswered. They're pretty busy. I wish I could have purchased more masks but beggars can't be choosy & I was happy we got what we got.

    Glad to hear you're interested in helping those who can't help themselves at this time in their lives. Let me know if you need more info...an_cheers

     
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    The 1st tattoo given tomorrow in Georgia should read "I AM AN IDIOT."

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    The 1st tattoo given tomorrow in Georgia should read "I AM AN IDIOT."

     
     
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    At today's ego stroke rally, Trump will tell everyone that battery acid on your face will cure acne.

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    At today's ego stroke rally, Trump will tell everyone that battery acid on your face will cure acne.

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