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    More Evidence of Liberal's Mismanaging our Tax $

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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 3:10 PM ET #1

    https://www.nationalreview.com/article/354867/me-and-my-obamaphones-jillian-kay-melchior

    another example of why democrats are taunted as being fiscally irresponsible

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    https://www.nationalreview.com/article/354867/me-and-my-obamaphones-jillian-kay-melchior

    another example of why democrats are taunted as being fiscally irresponsible

     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 4:16 PM ET #2

    Yeah all the ills of our government are due to one political party.

    Great thread.
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    Yeah all the ills of our government are due to one political party.

    Great thread.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Yeah all the ills of our government are due to one political party.

    Great thread.

    no, not all ills.  but this was just another example.  hence, the title of the thread: more evidence...

    I didn't write:  THE CASE guy!, or THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.  no.  just simply, more evidence.

    and when a real life example is plainly laid out in front of you of blatant fraud, that's your response!

    that is why your attitude is such a joke.  you can't even respond with 'yeah that's not good', or 'yeah that should be cleaned up'.  instead, you don't even address the content of the message, but you make a snide remark about the thread.  thanks for exposing your complete lack of common sense, and your immaturity.

    great response

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Yeah all the ills of our government are due to one political party.

    Great thread.

    no, not all ills.  but this was just another example.  hence, the title of the thread: more evidence...

    I didn't write:  THE CASE guy!, or THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.  no.  just simply, more evidence.

    and when a real life example is plainly laid out in front of you of blatant fraud, that's your response!

    that is why your attitude is such a joke.  you can't even respond with 'yeah that's not good', or 'yeah that should be cleaned up'.  instead, you don't even address the content of the message, but you make a snide remark about the thread.  thanks for exposing your complete lack of common sense, and your immaturity.

    great response

     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 6:54 PM ET #4

    News flash..

    The government is a collective of several political parties.

    To lay blame for tax dollars misuse on one political party is absurd.

    You make a generalist, biased thread dont be shocked when the absurdity of it gets pointed out.
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    News flash..

    The government is a collective of several political parties.

    To lay blame for tax dollars misuse on one political party is absurd.

    You make a generalist, biased thread dont be shocked when the absurdity of it gets pointed out.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 7:23 PM ET #5

    Representative Tim Griffin  "I saw all the horror stories of people getting 10, 20, 30, 40 phones,” Griffin says, “the [wireless] companies not paying a lot of attention and in some cases no attention to who was getting them and whether they were getting duplicates.”

    “Of course, the way the program was set up, [wireless companies] were getting money for every one they could give out, so they gave out as many as they could.”

    Obama phones ..

    Where does Obama get the money for his $2.2 billion free Obama phones?

    Where else ...........from his stash..

    If you think this is bad just wait till they set-up the Obamacare Health exchanges  .....
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    Representative Tim Griffin  "I saw all the horror stories of people getting 10, 20, 30, 40 phones,” Griffin says, “the [wireless] companies not paying a lot of attention and in some cases no attention to who was getting them and whether they were getting duplicates.”

    “Of course, the way the program was set up, [wireless companies] were getting money for every one they could give out, so they gave out as many as they could.”

    Obama phones ..

    Where does Obama get the money for his $2.2 billion free Obama phones?

    Where else ...........from his stash..

    If you think this is bad just wait till they set-up the Obamacare Health exchanges  .....
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 7:35 PM ET #6

    it is politically motivated!!!  welfare applicants get sent voter registrations forms.  who do you think that benefits?  these wireless companies get an incentive for every phone they give out.   now, the goal is to no longer give a means of communicating to those who can't afford it, but to give out as many phones.   this leads to an abuse in tax payer money. 

     lets not play dumb.  these handouts are all for the poor, who happen to be democratic supporters.  they're buying the vote with the handout.  maybe you don't care because all these votes go to the party you support.

    thanks for the new info of the government being made up of a collection of parties.  yes you are right:  to lay blame for tax dollar misuse on one party is absurd.  but in this case, this obamaphone handout fraud is at the hands of the democrats.  ultimately, there's a democrat in office, and these entitlement programs benefit him.  so the accountability ends with him.

    way to deflect from the topic of the thread- again.  two responses, two times you avoid the subject.  don't bother chiming in a third time to give me some political lesson unless you want to address the problem.

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    it is politically motivated!!!  welfare applicants get sent voter registrations forms.  who do you think that benefits?  these wireless companies get an incentive for every phone they give out.   now, the goal is to no longer give a means of communicating to those who can't afford it, but to give out as many phones.   this leads to an abuse in tax payer money. 

     lets not play dumb.  these handouts are all for the poor, who happen to be democratic supporters.  they're buying the vote with the handout.  maybe you don't care because all these votes go to the party you support.

    thanks for the new info of the government being made up of a collection of parties.  yes you are right:  to lay blame for tax dollar misuse on one party is absurd.  but in this case, this obamaphone handout fraud is at the hands of the democrats.  ultimately, there's a democrat in office, and these entitlement programs benefit him.  so the accountability ends with him.

    way to deflect from the topic of the thread- again.  two responses, two times you avoid the subject.  don't bother chiming in a third time to give me some political lesson unless you want to address the problem.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 7:52 PM ET #7

    The Obama phone program is a scam..for Democrat kick-backs..

    Miami-based TracFone Wireless is one of the major providers of the free cellphones and that President and CEO Frederick “F.J.” Pollak “donated at least $156,500 to Democratic candidates and committees this cycle, including at least $50,000 to the Obama campaign.”

    "Yes We Scam"   "Si, se timo"  "Yes We Scam" .....

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    The Obama phone program is a scam..for Democrat kick-backs..

    Miami-based TracFone Wireless is one of the major providers of the free cellphones and that President and CEO Frederick “F.J.” Pollak “donated at least $156,500 to Democratic candidates and committees this cycle, including at least $50,000 to the Obama campaign.”

    "Yes We Scam"   "Si, se timo"  "Yes We Scam" .....

     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 8:01 PM ET #8

    Wall, you don't make stupid comments like that when someone is bashing a Republican. Why is that?
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    Wall, you don't make stupid comments like that when someone is bashing a Republican. Why is that?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 8:09 PM ET #9

    Now that's a thought ..........Waltertaylor.

    All the ills of our government are not due to one political party...just most of them.
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    Now that's a thought ..........Waltertaylor.

    All the ills of our government are not due to one political party...just most of them.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 9:09 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    News flash..

    The government is a collective of several political parties.

    To lay blame for tax dollars misuse on one political party is absurd.

    You make a generalist, biased thread dont be shocked when the absurdity of it gets pointed out.

    I agree.

    The Republicans and Democrats lied about weapons of mass destruction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    News flash..

    The government is a collective of several political parties.

    To lay blame for tax dollars misuse on one political party is absurd.

    You make a generalist, biased thread dont be shocked when the absurdity of it gets pointed out.

    I agree.

    The Republicans and Democrats lied about weapons of mass destruction.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 9:51 PM ET #11

    Another silly thread placing blame squarely on dems. Great thread dude. And for those hanging up on wall - take a look at his posts in this thread. All he has said is that it is not fair to make it seem as if this is a dems only issue. Which by the way is 100% true
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    Another silly thread placing blame squarely on dems. Great thread dude. And for those hanging up on wall - take a look at his posts in this thread. All he has said is that it is not fair to make it seem as if this is a dems only issue. Which by the way is 100% true
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 9:52 PM ET #12

    Should say ganging up on wall
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    Should say ganging up on wall
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 10:13 PM ET #13

    https://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/

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    https://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/

     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 10:20 PM ET #14

    https://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp 
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Another silly thread placing blame squarely on dems. Great thread dude. And for those hanging up on wall - take a look at his posts in this thread. All he has said is that it is not fair to make it seem as if this is a dems only issue. Which by the way is 100% true

    my goodness... it's no secret dems are the party of 'giving to the poor' and the republicans are the ones that want to instill some fiscal discipline on entitlements.  that point is not even debatable.   yet when one of those entitlement programs displays any notion of fiscal irresponsibility all the libs jump in with the 'well democrats aren't the only party in the government' comments in order to spread some of the blame around. 

    thanks for the entertainment libtards

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Another silly thread placing blame squarely on dems. Great thread dude. And for those hanging up on wall - take a look at his posts in this thread. All he has said is that it is not fair to make it seem as if this is a dems only issue. Which by the way is 100% true

    my goodness... it's no secret dems are the party of 'giving to the poor' and the republicans are the ones that want to instill some fiscal discipline on entitlements.  that point is not even debatable.   yet when one of those entitlement programs displays any notion of fiscal irresponsibility all the libs jump in with the 'well democrats aren't the only party in the government' comments in order to spread some of the blame around. 

    thanks for the entertainment libtards

     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 10:43 PM ET #16

    Darkhorse, there's a copy and paste crew around here looking for another member...

    Hope you make the cut ..........

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    Darkhorse, there's a copy and paste crew around here looking for another member...

    Hope you make the cut ..........

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by waltertaylor24:

    Wall, you don't make stupid comments like that when someone is bashing a Republican. Why is that?

    Oh yeah I do..

    The biases some people have put blinders on your eyes. Just like the absurd comments about dems/libs never being boxed or talked to..

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltertaylor24:

    Wall, you don't make stupid comments like that when someone is bashing a Republican. Why is that?

    Oh yeah I do..

    The biases some people have put blinders on your eyes. Just like the absurd comments about dems/libs never being boxed or talked to..

     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 11:16 PM ET #18

    darkhorse-

    paid for out of the usf fund... well where do you think they get that money?  from people like me who pay for their cell phone and incur excess taxes to enable this program to exist

    and today, there's rampant fraud involving these cell phones.   people apply and receive multiple phones (illegal, and verified in my link in post #1) and trade their excess phones for other goods. https://headlinedigest.com/2013/06/obama-phones-given-to-to-people-who-sell-them-for-drugs-cash-video/

     just like the food stamp purchases that the recipients send overseas

    https://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/it_on_y22owkLpsldSAjDVC9isjM 

    the fraud is rampant.   the taxpayer is paying for it.   the dems promote the entitlements to secure votes.  that is their M.O. 

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    darkhorse-

    paid for out of the usf fund... well where do you think they get that money?  from people like me who pay for their cell phone and incur excess taxes to enable this program to exist

    and today, there's rampant fraud involving these cell phones.   people apply and receive multiple phones (illegal, and verified in my link in post #1) and trade their excess phones for other goods. https://headlinedigest.com/2013/06/obama-phones-given-to-to-people-who-sell-them-for-drugs-cash-video/

     just like the food stamp purchases that the recipients send overseas

    https://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/it_on_y22owkLpsldSAjDVC9isjM 

    the fraud is rampant.   the taxpayer is paying for it.   the dems promote the entitlements to secure votes.  that is their M.O. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 11:21 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Oh yeah I do..

    The biases some people have put blinders on your eyes. Just like the absurd comments about dems/libs never being boxed or talked to..

    yeah just like you can't even chime in with- yeah the fraud is repulsive and I don't agree with it.   3 posts now in this thread, yet, you can't even address the topic with neutrality.  instead, throwing the one group that is trying to get control of the entitlement issue, under the bus.

    "blinders in your eyes"  

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Oh yeah I do..

    The biases some people have put blinders on your eyes. Just like the absurd comments about dems/libs never being boxed or talked to..

    yeah just like you can't even chime in with- yeah the fraud is repulsive and I don't agree with it.   3 posts now in this thread, yet, you can't even address the topic with neutrality.  instead, throwing the one group that is trying to get control of the entitlement issue, under the bus.

    "blinders in your eyes"  

     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 11:25 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Peraski:

    yeah just like you can't even chime in with- yeah the fraud is repulsive and I don't agree with it.   3 posts now in this thread, yet, you can't even address the topic with neutrality.  instead, throwing the one group that is trying to get control of the entitlement issue, under the bus.

    "blinders in your eyes"  


    Why are you targeting fraud and associating with liberals?

    ALL politicians have pet projects and areas of inefficiencies, so why did you make the moronic thread targeting liberals when ALL politicians are the same..you are merely saying you side with corporate welfare and ignore the waste and corruption that comes from the side of the aisle you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peraski:

    yeah just like you can't even chime in with- yeah the fraud is repulsive and I don't agree with it.   3 posts now in this thread, yet, you can't even address the topic with neutrality.  instead, throwing the one group that is trying to get control of the entitlement issue, under the bus.

    "blinders in your eyes"  


    Why are you targeting fraud and associating with liberals?

    ALL politicians have pet projects and areas of inefficiencies, so why did you make the moronic thread targeting liberals when ALL politicians are the same..you are merely saying you side with corporate welfare and ignore the waste and corruption that comes from the side of the aisle you like.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 11:40 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Why are you targeting fraud and associating with liberals?

    ALL politicians have pet projects and areas of inefficiencies, so why did you make the moronic thread targeting liberals when ALL politicians are the same..you are merely saying you side with corporate welfare and ignore the waste and corruption that comes from the side of the aisle you like.

    the entitlement industry that the democrats champion in order to secure votes is what perpetuates the fraud.   ebt and obamaphone (yes, cell phones started under bush) fraud is what I gave concrete examples of.   just like a coach or gm is ultimately accountable for a teams' wins and losses (and not always the players), if you got a democratic president that won the election due to the amount of supporters that receive entitlements, he should be held accountable.

    do you not agree with the generalization that democrats endorse the entitlement programs while republicans are seen as the meanies that are trying to take them away? (which I believe they don't, they just want it under control). 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Why are you targeting fraud and associating with liberals?

    ALL politicians have pet projects and areas of inefficiencies, so why did you make the moronic thread targeting liberals when ALL politicians are the same..you are merely saying you side with corporate welfare and ignore the waste and corruption that comes from the side of the aisle you like.

    the entitlement industry that the democrats champion in order to secure votes is what perpetuates the fraud.   ebt and obamaphone (yes, cell phones started under bush) fraud is what I gave concrete examples of.   just like a coach or gm is ultimately accountable for a teams' wins and losses (and not always the players), if you got a democratic president that won the election due to the amount of supporters that receive entitlements, he should be held accountable.

    do you not agree with the generalization that democrats endorse the entitlement programs while republicans are seen as the meanies that are trying to take them away? (which I believe they don't, they just want it under control). 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2013 - 11:47 PM ET #22

    moronic thread?  so your saying this abuse of the obamaphone is not a fiscal problem?  the obamphone abuse is an entitlement promoted by liberals.  thus, if there is fraud with obamaphones, the libs are accountable.

    that is not to say there isn't a republican with a pet project that wastes tax payer money.   but that's not what the thread was about.   the thread was about obamaphones.

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    moronic thread?  so your saying this abuse of the obamaphone is not a fiscal problem?  the obamphone abuse is an entitlement promoted by liberals.  thus, if there is fraud with obamaphones, the libs are accountable.

    that is not to say there isn't a republican with a pet project that wastes tax payer money.   but that's not what the thread was about.   the thread was about obamaphones.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2013 - 12:37 AM ET #23

    Please keep replies focused on the thread topic
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2013 - 12:59 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by lordspoint:

    Please keep replies focused on the thread topic


    Oh that's right !  Thanks for reminding me. I thought it was about biased threads.......

    Well then.. the Federal Universal Service charge,collected on both land and mobile bills in all 50 states and DC. is – $2.50. That's because according to the WSJ the program’s integrity depended on “self-certification..something like next years Obamacare......exchanges will not ask for annual household income verification to give out subsidies..even though it's the law..


    The objective here is the same as the Obama phones scam .. enroll as many people under Obamacare as they can.
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    Oh that's right !  Thanks for reminding me. I thought it was about biased threads.......

    Well then.. the Federal Universal Service charge,collected on both land and mobile bills in all 50 states and DC. is – $2.50. That's because according to the WSJ the program’s integrity depended on “self-certification..something like next years Obamacare......exchanges will not ask for annual household income verification to give out subsidies..even though it's the law..


    The objective here is the same as the Obama phones scam .. enroll as many people under Obamacare as they can.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2013 - 1:02 AM ET #25

    Thread was titled liberals mismanaged tax dollars..

    Or maybe I need some glasses.

    What one party calls waste, another calls social aid.

    What one party calls waste, another calls defense spending and getting rid of WMDs.

    Its all the same bag, you just like a blue bag while someone else likes a red bag.

    I like neither...
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    Thread was titled liberals mismanaged tax dollars..

    Or maybe I need some glasses.

    What one party calls waste, another calls social aid.

    What one party calls waste, another calls defense spending and getting rid of WMDs.

    Its all the same bag, you just like a blue bag while someone else likes a red bag.

    I like neither...
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