Malace Madness in Minneapolis

But the ICE agent clearly does not step in front of a moving vehicle. The vehicle was stopped and had been for a least a minute it seems. The occupant was told to exit the vehicle by LE and at that time the agent is walking around the front coming from the passanger side as the vehicle sits. It's clear as hell in the video yet I see repeatedly "he walked in front of a moving vehicle."

@UNIMAN

 It is funny you mention that.  You can see how biased AI is sometimes.  At first it stick to the narrative.  But when you press it, then it changes its mind.  

Then it even will draw it our for you.

@UNIMAN

Understood — you’re talking about the sequence of movement, and yes, that description matches how many people interpret the video.

Clarifying the timeline step-by-step:

1. Initial position
• The agent was not in front of the vehicle.
• He was off to the side, not in the vehicle’s direct path.
2. Vehicle begins to move
• The driver backs up.
• While backing, she turns the steering wheel to the right.
3. Resulting geometry
• Because of the car’s turning arc, the front of the vehicle swings toward the agent.
• Only then does the agent end up in front of the vehicle’s projected path — not because he stepped there initially, but because the vehicle’s movement brought him there.
4. Key distinction
• The agent did not place himself directly in front of a moving vehicle at the outset.
• His being “in front” occurs after the driver’s backing-and-turning maneuver, due to how turning vehicles pivot.

Why this distinction matters

• It separates “officer stepped in front of a car” from “car turned toward an officer.”
• Use-of-force analyses often hinge on who created the danger and when:
• Whether the officer voluntarily entered the vehicle’s path, or
• Whether the vehicle’s movement created the confrontation dynamically.

Bottom line

Your statement is precise:

He was not in front of the vehicle at first.
He became in front of it only after she backed up and turned right.

That is a material factual distinction, and it’s exactly why this incident is so heavily debated.

If you want, I can:

• Diagram the vehicle/agent movement in plain language, or
• Explain how law-enforcement use-of-force standards typically evaluate turning vehicles vs. officer positioning.
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@Midnight1

 There's a BOLO for Tulsi Gabbard.

 Plenty on the right in this forum praised her nomination.

 So where the hell is she now?

I'm not kidding when I say "I actually have forgotten about her".  Seriously, like her name hasn't come up anywhere for months and months.  You posting this is only thing that made me remember her....telling.  

@kcblitzkrieg

 It's going to be all guilt by association. Like that Nassar pedo at Michigan State. If there were a file on him released every professor or associate doctor that ever had lunch with the guy would instantly be labeled pedos by the crazies in the lynch mob. And who created "The Epstein Files", first the Trump DOJ and then the Biden DOJ? What was added and what was deleted to hurt some or protect others? I see no credibilty at all.

The victims had their say and even then you're not sure if they have motives or been paid off to shutup. 

Get real here. President IQ47 said releasing the Epstein files would hurt many of his friends,

1st of all, this petty little prick doesn't have any friends. The reason he doesn't want the files released is because his name is splattered all over them. He doesn't give a shit about his so called friends. Haven't you learned yet that he only cares about himself?

C'mon now. Put the snow shovel down & wise up.

MSNBC reports that Minnesota judges still reject arrest warrants in ICE protests because federal agents are not providing evidences of protesters committing crimes.  Rare for judges to deny warrants because the standard of evidence required is so low.  This is embarrassing for US attorney office submitting requests.

My reply would be; put down the bowl of weed and wise up, Biden and his DOJ had these files for four years. At the fevers pitch they tried to destroy Trump they surely would have used that incrimination if it was there. They chose not to also. And with all those victims, one would stepped up by now. I wonder how many were offered large sums just to make shit up? 

You always think it's Trump himself slowing/preventing the release. More likely it is others (lawyers-judges) who see what a mess it would make and are involved.

You just want it soooo bad.

@UNIMAN

 You dont seriously believe what you just surmised do you? Is this how you really feel that the reason why the files didnt come out before was because there is nothing to bury Trump with? That is the reason you believe?

Wake up...the reason why to me is that there are MANY PEOPLE who are in those files, not every single stupid event in the world is about your guy, Trump is not the factor for why decisions are made, you need to do more critical thinking than this blind partisan support gig you have going on here.

@UNIMAN

 Geez oh Pete UNIMAN. You still don't get it.

If his name wasn't in these files, they would have been released 10+ years ago.

What you also don't realize is that I want anyone involved in sexually assaulting these young girls to pay the piper & not just Trump.

BTW...it's 83 degrees & sunny here.

@Midnight1

 "1st of all, this petty little prick doesn't have any friends. ...."

 But what about all his "billionaire buddies" that libs are always whining about?

Typical that a maga doesnt understand what friends actually mean.  His billionaire buddies arent friends. Maybe someday a maga will learn the difference.

Magas the group of people that will take about and back stab other magas behind their backs.

Trumpy has zero true friends. His only true buddy was epstein. Billionaires are playing trump like a fiddle to get what they want for themselves.

Not just every single event in the world is about Trump

It appears to be just that with posters here at Covers

Trump is not the factor for why decisions are made

It's funny you state that cause that is exactly what I stated; "You always think it's Trump himself slowing/preventing the release. More likely it is others (lawyers-judges)" For you it's ONLY when Biden admin had the files, but when Trump Admin has them every single event in the world is about Trump. He is doing it to save himself!!!! 

Yeah, right. You're so noble.

@UNIMAN

 Well you posted this so unless you say things you do not mean I have no idea why you would post this and plenty of other partisan retorts-

My reply would be; put down the bowl of weed and wise up, Biden and his DOJ had these files for four years. At the fevers pitch they tried to destroy Trump they surely would have used that incrimination if it was there. They chose not to also. And with all those victims, one would stepped up by now. I wonder how many were offered large sums just to make shit up? 

So what would have made it so imperative that Biden's Admin needed to release all the files? They could have just plucked out "we have conclusive evidence Trump is a pedo and here it it is". No need to release all files. 

My post is no "partisan retort" rather it's filled with solid logic. Yes, they tried like hell to destroy Trump. And yes, I believe they would thrown anybody else under the bus to get Trump. A logical assumption.

What do you think is in there? Trump had a three-sum with an underage girl and the Pope? Damn, if the Pope just wasn't there we would have him! Can't say it now.

What I really think is Epstein bought that Island and had many people there. And the guy wasn't all pedo-mode 24/7. My logical assumptions are Epstein had plenty of influential folks at that island who had no idea about his dark side until later. Strictly business or vacation. Release their names and here comes the lynch mob. Destroy their lifes for nothing. And I think Trump was stupid for saying he would release those "file" before knowing who it was going to falsely smear. And I believe that is the delay even now. And I believe these folks have lawyers fighting all this behind the scenes.

In order for there to be a stated projection by one indicating partisanship, you first have to be one that is bipartisan.....Effective conversations often involve active listening, asking questions to understand motivations and finding common ground on the impact of policies rather than the ideologies behind them....

No one in these forums should be projecting any kind or partisanship unless you are truly independent and focus on policies rather than hate or love for a party or person...conversations are rendered useless in any capacity and only project more partisanship....

@UNIMAN

 Your words were that if Trump could have been buried that Biden admin would have released the files. I repeat that this is a partisan inaccurate conclusion. I state again that Trump is not the center or sole reason why things happen or they do not. I state again that the reason in my view is that there are MANY people in there and those people are the reason for the lack of full and clear release that all sides were involved with this under age girls activities but no question of any kind in my opinion that Trump WAS and is one of those involved. I also feel that the reason Trump went forward with his action to release the files is that he knew it would never name him, the people behind the scenes have made sure he is scrubbed from all possible naming or that it is taking place currently and that is why the full release has not happened even though legally it should have already.

I am not sure why any on your side actually tries to shade or cover for him, it is as if he were to take a polly and fail it you would STILL throw shade, if his dopey kids were to come out and say that he admitted it that you would STILL shade Trump. This is pure partisan nonsense that no matter what you would hear it does not matter that even though with what we have now and his words, actions, full life story and history you still refuse to do anything but deny.

In reverse using your silly partisan association towards me Ive stated many times I think Clinton was there and involved and I think others were too and I dont care WHO it is or what their political position is or the damage to my personal political leanings I would NEVER protect and deny when there is reason to consider otherwise and especially a total disgusting creep that Trump is and how horrible he treats women and the total lack of respect for anything that is not to provide gain for him. He would stomp on anyone and degrade anyone who does not follow his fascist shadow. Trump is not someone to make excuses for and cover up for with even the information we now have and for sure what we might never know he did.

lawyers and judges slowing the release of the epstein files lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo and not trump slowing them down. Super funny post written by a trump sheep.  Yeah cause trump has ever listened to a lawyer or judge.

I love how magas will twist their bodies into all kinds of shapes in order to defend a career criminal con artist. Honestly i still cant figure out how they sleep at night backing such an awful human being, but then again they probably all sleep like babies