Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: no one knew about these events before now , JoeXi is the administration that uncovered it all, but I have to wonder if no one knew before, how can they claim it happened before? Intelligence community later determined balloons in the US during Trump presidency after further analysis. National security advisor Sullivan says Biden administration has improved the government capacity to detect things that the Trump administration was unable to detect.
So , you are claiming
JoeXi has gotten systems SO advanced he can not only detect things now that Trump could not, and he also can detect things that happened in the past?
Do you mean JoeXi has a crystal ball?
Or is JoeXi able to tell fantastic lies that go beyond your detection?
Probably both
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: no one knew about these events before now , JoeXi is the administration that uncovered it all, but I have to wonder if no one knew before, how can they claim it happened before? Intelligence community later determined balloons in the US during Trump presidency after further analysis. National security advisor Sullivan says Biden administration has improved the government capacity to detect things that the Trump administration was unable to detect.
So , you are claiming
JoeXi has gotten systems SO advanced he can not only detect things now that Trump could not, and he also can detect things that happened in the past?
Do you mean JoeXi has a crystal ball?
Or is JoeXi able to tell fantastic lies that go beyond your detection?
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: no one knew about these events before now , JoeXi is the administration that uncovered it all, but I have to wonder if no one knew before, how can they claim it happened before? Intelligence community later determined balloons in the US during Trump presidency after further analysis. National security advisor Sullivan says Biden administration has improved the government capacity to detect things that the Trump administration was unable to detect. So , you are claiming JoeXi has gotten systems SO advanced he can not only detect things now that Trump could not, and he also can detect things that happened in the past? Do you mean JoeXi has a crystal ball? Or is JoeXi able to tell fantastic lies that go beyond your detection? Probably both
Look at it logically;
1. They say or imply at least three CHINESE balloons were over the United States during Trump admin.
2. They say after very large Chinese spy balloon they " enhanced", "recalibrated" their radar to see these slow moving high altitude objects. And thats why suddenly we see and shoot down 4 in eight days.
Sooooo, if they needed to "recalibrate" how did they identify those claimed to be during Trump admin? Why didn't citizens see and report them like Montana last week? You cannot "recalibrate" recorded radar after it was recorded.
And if so, there obviously had to be spy balloons since Biden took office two years ago. Why would/could they look back and find three during Trump admin and crickets for last two years?
The obvious answer is.......lying again.
Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: no one knew about these events before now , JoeXi is the administration that uncovered it all, but I have to wonder if no one knew before, how can they claim it happened before? Intelligence community later determined balloons in the US during Trump presidency after further analysis. National security advisor Sullivan says Biden administration has improved the government capacity to detect things that the Trump administration was unable to detect. So , you are claiming JoeXi has gotten systems SO advanced he can not only detect things now that Trump could not, and he also can detect things that happened in the past? Do you mean JoeXi has a crystal ball? Or is JoeXi able to tell fantastic lies that go beyond your detection? Probably both
Look at it logically;
1. They say or imply at least three CHINESE balloons were over the United States during Trump admin.
2. They say after very large Chinese spy balloon they " enhanced", "recalibrated" their radar to see these slow moving high altitude objects. And thats why suddenly we see and shoot down 4 in eight days.
Sooooo, if they needed to "recalibrate" how did they identify those claimed to be during Trump admin? Why didn't citizens see and report them like Montana last week? You cannot "recalibrate" recorded radar after it was recorded.
And if so, there obviously had to be spy balloons since Biden took office two years ago. Why would/could they look back and find three during Trump admin and crickets for last two years?
Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: no one knew about these events before now , JoeXi is the administration that uncovered it all, but I have to wonder if no one knew before, how can they claim it happened before? Intelligence community later determined balloons in the US during Trump presidency after further analysis. National security advisor Sullivan says Biden administration has improved the government capacity to detect things that the Trump administration was unable to detect. So , you are claiming JoeXi has gotten systems SO advanced he can not only detect things now that Trump could not, and he also can detect things that happened in the past? Do you mean JoeXi has a crystal ball? Or is JoeXi able to tell fantastic lies that go beyond your detection? Probably both Look at it logically; 1. They say or imply at least three CHINESE balloons were over the United States during Trump admin. 2. They say after very large Chinese spy balloon they " enhanced", "recalibrated" their radar to see these slow moving high altitude objects. And thats why suddenly we see and shoot down 4 in eight days. Sooooo, if they needed to "recalibrate" how did they identify those claimed to be during Trump admin? Why didn't citizens see and report them like Montana last week? You cannot "recalibrate" recorded radar after it was recorded. And if so, there obviously had to be spy balloons since Biden took office two years ago. Why would/could they look back and find three during Trump admin and crickets for last two years? The obvious answer is.......lying again.
Please, I figured 'the intelligent' ones would have figured this out long ago
Sad how they can claim something SO senseless and KNOW 'the intelligent' ones will bite.
Sad indeed
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: no one knew about these events before now , JoeXi is the administration that uncovered it all, but I have to wonder if no one knew before, how can they claim it happened before? Intelligence community later determined balloons in the US during Trump presidency after further analysis. National security advisor Sullivan says Biden administration has improved the government capacity to detect things that the Trump administration was unable to detect. So , you are claiming JoeXi has gotten systems SO advanced he can not only detect things now that Trump could not, and he also can detect things that happened in the past? Do you mean JoeXi has a crystal ball? Or is JoeXi able to tell fantastic lies that go beyond your detection? Probably both Look at it logically; 1. They say or imply at least three CHINESE balloons were over the United States during Trump admin. 2. They say after very large Chinese spy balloon they " enhanced", "recalibrated" their radar to see these slow moving high altitude objects. And thats why suddenly we see and shoot down 4 in eight days. Sooooo, if they needed to "recalibrate" how did they identify those claimed to be during Trump admin? Why didn't citizens see and report them like Montana last week? You cannot "recalibrate" recorded radar after it was recorded. And if so, there obviously had to be spy balloons since Biden took office two years ago. Why would/could they look back and find three during Trump admin and crickets for last two years? The obvious answer is.......lying again.
Please, I figured 'the intelligent' ones would have figured this out long ago
Sad how they can claim something SO senseless and KNOW 'the intelligent' ones will bite.
BREAKING: At a telephonic press briefing just minutes ago,
John Kirby says the three other unidentified flying objects shot down by the U.S. could just be small balloons tied to commercial or research purposes.
Time is a flat circle....
@UNIMAN
BREAKING: At a telephonic press briefing just minutes ago,
John Kirby says the three other unidentified flying objects shot down by the U.S. could just be small balloons tied to commercial or research purposes.
Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: My biggest fear is that if this is alien life , the first thing they may say is,"Take me to your leader" joe No really, take-----me-----to-----your------leader. Oh, here's Kamala. "I just love balloons as big as buses, chackle-chackle, and I love buses too!" Beam me up Scotty, no intelligent life on this planet.
Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: My biggest fear is that if this is alien life , the first thing they may say is,"Take me to your leader" joe No really, take-----me-----to-----your------leader. Oh, here's Kamala. "I just love balloons as big as buses, chackle-chackle, and I love buses too!" Beam me up Scotty, no intelligent life on this planet.
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: My biggest fear is that if this is alien life , the first thing they may say is,"Take me to your leader" joe No really, take-----me-----to-----your------leader. Oh, here's Kamala. "I just love balloons as big as buses, chackle-chackle, and I love buses too!" Beam me up Scotty, no intelligent life on this planet. https://babylonbee.com/news/ok-take-us-to-a-different-leader-say-exasperated-aliens-after-trying-to-communicate-with-joe-biden/
Excellent news? source !
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: My biggest fear is that if this is alien life , the first thing they may say is,"Take me to your leader" joe No really, take-----me-----to-----your------leader. Oh, here's Kamala. "I just love balloons as big as buses, chackle-chackle, and I love buses too!" Beam me up Scotty, no intelligent life on this planet. https://babylonbee.com/news/ok-take-us-to-a-different-leader-say-exasperated-aliens-after-trying-to-communicate-with-joe-biden/
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: My biggest fear is that if this is alien life , the first thing they may say is,"Take me to your leader" joe No really, take-----me-----to-----your------leader. Oh, here's Kamala. "I just love balloons as big as buses, chackle-chackle, and I love buses too!" Beam me up Scotty, no intelligent life on this planet. https://babylonbee.com/news/ok-take-us-to-a-different-leader-say-exasperated-aliens-after-trying-to-communicate-with-joe-biden/
Classic....
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: My biggest fear is that if this is alien life , the first thing they may say is,"Take me to your leader" joe No really, take-----me-----to-----your------leader. Oh, here's Kamala. "I just love balloons as big as buses, chackle-chackle, and I love buses too!" Beam me up Scotty, no intelligent life on this planet. https://babylonbee.com/news/ok-take-us-to-a-different-leader-say-exasperated-aliens-after-trying-to-communicate-with-joe-biden/
Ok... The one that was shot down over lake huron.... Our plane our pilot missed a balloon with a SIDEWINDER proximity denatirr... It didn't have to hit it just had to be close... So pilot "missy" couldn't hit a balloon with a SIDEWINDER.... And this is our defense against mig 35 with nuclear warheads???? Maybe our pilots need more training....
In the pilots defense the sidewinder is heat seeking and balloons give off no heat. Only reflected sun radiation would help the missle lock on and find it's target.
Several media outlets point to a 1998 Canadian runaway weather balloon that was shot at with over a 1000 rounds of cheaper bullets by fighter jets and kept going all the way to Finland. This is their logic for using $400,000 a piece sidewinders. Yet that Canadian weather balloon was huge, the length of five football fields! These balloons shot down are tiny in comparison and believe a few well aimed bullets would have done the job.
Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
Ok... The one that was shot down over lake huron.... Our plane our pilot missed a balloon with a SIDEWINDER proximity denatirr... It didn't have to hit it just had to be close... So pilot "missy" couldn't hit a balloon with a SIDEWINDER.... And this is our defense against mig 35 with nuclear warheads???? Maybe our pilots need more training....
In the pilots defense the sidewinder is heat seeking and balloons give off no heat. Only reflected sun radiation would help the missle lock on and find it's target.
Several media outlets point to a 1998 Canadian runaway weather balloon that was shot at with over a 1000 rounds of cheaper bullets by fighter jets and kept going all the way to Finland. This is their logic for using $400,000 a piece sidewinders. Yet that Canadian weather balloon was huge, the length of five football fields! These balloons shot down are tiny in comparison and believe a few well aimed bullets would have done the job.
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: My biggest fear is that if this is alien life , the first thing they may say is,"Take me to your leader" joe No really, take-----me-----to-----your------leader. Oh, here's Kamala. "I just love balloons as big as buses, chackle-chackle, and I love buses too!" Beam me up Scotty, no intelligent life on this planet. https://babylonbee.com/news/ok-take-us-to-a-different-leader-say-exasperated-aliens-after-trying-to-communicate-with-joe-biden/Classic....
yes
with Joe and his cast of incompetents , they went back to report the pickings are ripe
Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink: My biggest fear is that if this is alien life , the first thing they may say is,"Take me to your leader" joe No really, take-----me-----to-----your------leader. Oh, here's Kamala. "I just love balloons as big as buses, chackle-chackle, and I love buses too!" Beam me up Scotty, no intelligent life on this planet. https://babylonbee.com/news/ok-take-us-to-a-different-leader-say-exasperated-aliens-after-trying-to-communicate-with-joe-biden/Classic....
yes
with Joe and his cast of incompetents , they went back to report the pickings are ripe
Per the report, the Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade’s (NIBBB) silver-coated, party-style "pico balloon" reported its last position on Feb. 10 at nearly 40,000 ft. off the west coast of Alaska.
Projections showed that the object would be floating over the central part of the Yukon Territory on Feb. 11 – the same day an F-22 shot down an unidentified object in the general area.
Small pico balloons range between $12 and $180 and are naturally buoyant above 43,000 ft. These objects carry an 11-gram tracker, with HF and VHF/UHG antennas to update their positions around the world, according to Aviation Week.
The outlet noted that the shape, altitudes, and payloads of small pico balloons matched the descriptions of all three unidentified objects shot down between Feb. 10 and Feb. 12.
PARTY BALLOONS!!
Per the report, the Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade’s (NIBBB) silver-coated, party-style "pico balloon" reported its last position on Feb. 10 at nearly 40,000 ft. off the west coast of Alaska.
Projections showed that the object would be floating over the central part of the Yukon Territory on Feb. 11 – the same day an F-22 shot down an unidentified object in the general area.
Small pico balloons range between $12 and $180 and are naturally buoyant above 43,000 ft. These objects carry an 11-gram tracker, with HF and VHF/UHG antennas to update their positions around the world, according to Aviation Week.
The outlet noted that the shape, altitudes, and payloads of small pico balloons matched the descriptions of all three unidentified objects shot down between Feb. 10 and Feb. 12.
The Chinese spy balloon that flew across the U.S. was able to gather intelligence from several sensitive American military sites, despite the Biden administration’s efforts to block it from doing so, according to two current senior U.S. officials and one former senior administration official.
China was able to control the balloon so it could make multiple passes over some of the sites (at times flying figure-eight formations) and transmit the information it collected back to Beijing in real time, the three officials said. The intelligence China collected was mostly from electronic signals, which can be picked up from weapons systems or include communications from base personnel, rather than images, the officials said.
Ahhh, more news on the Chinese spy balloon. (Hope it isn't racist to call it "Chinese" spy balloon like "China virus" was)
The Chinese spy balloon that flew across the U.S. was able to gather intelligence from several sensitive American military sites, despite the Biden administration’s efforts to block it from doing so, according to two current senior U.S. officials and one former senior administration official.
China was able to control the balloon so it could make multiple passes over some of the sites (at times flying figure-eight formations) and transmit the information it collected back to Beijing in real time, the three officials said. The intelligence China collected was mostly from electronic signals, which can be picked up from weapons systems or include communications from base personnel, rather than images, the officials said.
The three officials said China could have gathered much more intelligence from sensitive sites if not for the administration’s efforts to move around potential targets and obscure the balloon’s ability to pick up their electronic signals by stopping them from broadcasting or emitting signals.
The Defense Department directed NBC News to comments senior officials made in February that the balloon had “limited additive value” for intelligence collection by the Chinese government “over and above what [China] is likely able to collect through things like satellites in low earth orbit.”
The three officials said China could have gathered much more intelligence from sensitive sites if not for the administration’s efforts to move around potential targets and obscure the balloon’s ability to pick up their electronic signals by stopping them from broadcasting or emitting signals.
The Defense Department directed NBC News to comments senior officials made in February that the balloon had “limited additive value” for intelligence collection by the Chinese government “over and above what [China] is likely able to collect through things like satellites in low earth orbit.”
CNN anchor Jim Sciutto was forced to update a February tweet "that aged like cheese" claiming United States officials were able to "block" the infamous Chinese spy balloon from gathering intelligence before it was shot down.
Sciutto, a former Obama administration official who is now a CNN anchor and the network’s chief national security correspondent, reported on Feb. 4 that the Biden administration was able to "block the balloon from gathering intel" in a message that turned out to be wrong.
"Notable: US officials say they were able to block the balloon from gathering intel during its overflight of the US, while the US military was able to turn the tables, so to speak, to gather intel on the balloon itself and its equipment," Sciutto tweeted.
Sciutto has now tweeted; Update: The US now believes the Chinese balloon was able to gather some intelligence during its transit," Sciutto wrote without apologizing.
CNN's Jim Sciutto tweets in February;
CNN anchor Jim Sciutto was forced to update a February tweet "that aged like cheese" claiming United States officials were able to "block" the infamous Chinese spy balloon from gathering intelligence before it was shot down.
Sciutto, a former Obama administration official who is now a CNN anchor and the network’s chief national security correspondent, reported on Feb. 4 that the Biden administration was able to "block the balloon from gathering intel" in a message that turned out to be wrong.
"Notable: US officials say they were able to block the balloon from gathering intel during its overflight of the US, while the US military was able to turn the tables, so to speak, to gather intel on the balloon itself and its equipment," Sciutto tweeted.
Sciutto has now tweeted; Update: The US now believes the Chinese balloon was able to gather some intelligence during its transit," Sciutto wrote without apologizing.
Reuters report that pentagon and white house couldn't confirm whether chinese balloon could transmit data to China. Experts are still analyzing debris. Still, US intelligence community isn't too concerned because balloon isn't more sophisticated than chinese satellites in providing new insights.
Reuters report that pentagon and white house couldn't confirm whether chinese balloon could transmit data to China. Experts are still analyzing debris. Still, US intelligence community isn't too concerned because balloon isn't more sophisticated than chinese satellites in providing new insights.
We knew all along that China's invasion of our airspace was no accident," Tester said. "There's nothing more important than keeping America safe, and I'll keep holding the Biden Administration accountable to ensure Montanans' freedom and privacy are protected."
Senator Jon Tester, Democrat in Montana;
We knew all along that China's invasion of our airspace was no accident," Tester said. "There's nothing more important than keeping America safe, and I'll keep holding the Biden Administration accountable to ensure Montanans' freedom and privacy are protected."
@UNIMAN So do you dispute what I posted in post #139?
You really don't want to hear what I think but since you asked.
This entire thread you walked through with blinders on claiming satellites could get better pictures. Time and again posters pointed out the balloon could gather electronic data such as communications at nuclear sites. And then you blindly go off on satellite pics again.
the administration’s efforts to move around potential targets. Tell me how you move an underground nuclear missle site or military base as the balloon does figure 8's over it?
The new's is OUT. The balloon transmitted the whole time despite efforts to prevent it. The White House and Pentagon DO NOT want to confirm their own incompetence and Rueters and all the rest are willing to back them up.
DO YOU REALLY THINK THE CHINESE WOULD DEVELOP A MILLION DOLLAR + BALLOON AND FLY IT OVER SEVERAL MILITARY INSTALLATIONS FOR NOTHING???
Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:
@UNIMAN So do you dispute what I posted in post #139?
You really don't want to hear what I think but since you asked.
This entire thread you walked through with blinders on claiming satellites could get better pictures. Time and again posters pointed out the balloon could gather electronic data such as communications at nuclear sites. And then you blindly go off on satellite pics again.
the administration’s efforts to move around potential targets. Tell me how you move an underground nuclear missle site or military base as the balloon does figure 8's over it?
The new's is OUT. The balloon transmitted the whole time despite efforts to prevent it. The White House and Pentagon DO NOT want to confirm their own incompetence and Rueters and all the rest are willing to back them up.
DO YOU REALLY THINK THE CHINESE WOULD DEVELOP A MILLION DOLLAR + BALLOON AND FLY IT OVER SEVERAL MILITARY INSTALLATIONS FOR NOTHING???
Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12: @UNIMAN So do you dispute what I posted in post #139? You really don't want to hear what I think but since you asked. This entire thread you walked through with blinders on claiming satellites could get better pictures. Time and again posters pointed out the balloon could gather electronic data such as communications at nuclear sites. And then you blindly go off on satellite pics again. the administration’s efforts to move around potential targets. Tell me how you move an underground nuclear missle site or military base as the balloon does figure 8's over it? The new's is OUT. The balloon transmitted the whole time despite efforts to prevent it. The White House and Pentagon DO NOT want to confirm their own incompetence and Rueters and all the rest are willing to back them up. DO YOU REALLY THINK THE CHINESE WOULD DEVELOP A MILLION DOLLAR + BALLOON AND FLY IT OVER SEVERAL MILITARY INSTALLATIONS FOR NOTHING???
Funny isn’t it that you would dispute the 2 paragraphs I posted because they were the next 2 paragraphs from the article you posted in your post #138. Evidently you only pick and choose what you like in an article that suits your agenda. Once again your blindness has made a fool of yourself.
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12: @UNIMAN So do you dispute what I posted in post #139? You really don't want to hear what I think but since you asked. This entire thread you walked through with blinders on claiming satellites could get better pictures. Time and again posters pointed out the balloon could gather electronic data such as communications at nuclear sites. And then you blindly go off on satellite pics again. the administration’s efforts to move around potential targets. Tell me how you move an underground nuclear missle site or military base as the balloon does figure 8's over it? The new's is OUT. The balloon transmitted the whole time despite efforts to prevent it. The White House and Pentagon DO NOT want to confirm their own incompetence and Rueters and all the rest are willing to back them up. DO YOU REALLY THINK THE CHINESE WOULD DEVELOP A MILLION DOLLAR + BALLOON AND FLY IT OVER SEVERAL MILITARY INSTALLATIONS FOR NOTHING???
Funny isn’t it that you would dispute the 2 paragraphs I posted because they were the next 2 paragraphs from the article you posted in your post #138. Evidently you only pick and choose what you like in an article that suits your agenda. Once again your blindness has made a fool of yourself.
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