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    Covid Vaccine and Injuries that no one wants to talk about

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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2021 - 8:12 PM ET #101

    Worst public health crisis in a century has brought an infodemic of fake news and conspiracy theories from people opposed to scientists, governments, doctors, lockdowns, masks and vaccines.  This has hindered the effort to save lives.  In pandemic, better coordination between medical community, governments and mass media is vital to minimize the spread of disinformation. and thereby better engage the public in following correct guidelines.  Unfortunately, distrust is disastrous as US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world in 2020.

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    Worst public health crisis in a century has brought an infodemic of fake news and conspiracy theories from people opposed to scientists, governments, doctors, lockdowns, masks and vaccines.  This has hindered the effort to save lives.  In pandemic, better coordination between medical community, governments and mass media is vital to minimize the spread of disinformation. and thereby better engage the public in following correct guidelines.  Unfortunately, distrust is disastrous as US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world in 2020.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2021 - 1:12 AM ET #102

    Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay:

    There is a big co-relation between injuries and vaccinations.   The number of major injuries this season in MLB, NHL and NBA are alarming after the leagues decided to vaccinate their players. Over 90% of the injuries are happening to those players who took the vaccine!  Also covid protocols such as having to wear masks and restrictions on player work out tune ups etc also affect player staying in top shape.

    Correlation isn't causation.  Higher probability of injuries caused by reasons unrelated to vaccination.  For years, professional sports have become faster and harder.  Trainers have been calling the alarm about increasing injuries.  Pandemic lockdowns lead to shorter post season and less time for athletes to recover.  For vast majority of people, vaccines are safe and effective.  Usually minor symptoms lasting for a few days.  Severe reactions are very rare.  Vaccine benefits far outweigh risks.  Covid disease is worse than vaccination. 

    US center for disease control recommends vaccination for everyone except people allergic to vaccine ingredients.  Vaccines are safe for people with weakened immune systems plus pregnant mothers and their babies.  Even people previously infected can benefit from extra protection.

    There are no shortcuts.  All vaccines must meet safety standards and pass testing in clinical trials involving tens of thousands of subjects in several countries.  Normally, vaccines require years of development and monitoring.  But covid vaccines became available in less time because of huge investment, international efforts and advanced technology already developed over years.  Due to urgency of pandemic, Food drug administration and European medicine agency gave emergency approval so that vaccination can begin as soon as possible.  Emergency vaccines eventually receive full approval after a few years of monitoring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay:

    There is a big co-relation between injuries and vaccinations.   The number of major injuries this season in MLB, NHL and NBA are alarming after the leagues decided to vaccinate their players. Over 90% of the injuries are happening to those players who took the vaccine!  Also covid protocols such as having to wear masks and restrictions on player work out tune ups etc also affect player staying in top shape.

    Correlation isn't causation.  Higher probability of injuries caused by reasons unrelated to vaccination.  For years, professional sports have become faster and harder.  Trainers have been calling the alarm about increasing injuries.  Pandemic lockdowns lead to shorter post season and less time for athletes to recover.  For vast majority of people, vaccines are safe and effective.  Usually minor symptoms lasting for a few days.  Severe reactions are very rare.  Vaccine benefits far outweigh risks.  Covid disease is worse than vaccination. 

    US center for disease control recommends vaccination for everyone except people allergic to vaccine ingredients.  Vaccines are safe for people with weakened immune systems plus pregnant mothers and their babies.  Even people previously infected can benefit from extra protection.

    There are no shortcuts.  All vaccines must meet safety standards and pass testing in clinical trials involving tens of thousands of subjects in several countries.  Normally, vaccines require years of development and monitoring.  But covid vaccines became available in less time because of huge investment, international efforts and advanced technology already developed over years.  Due to urgency of pandemic, Food drug administration and European medicine agency gave emergency approval so that vaccination can begin as soon as possible.  Emergency vaccines eventually receive full approval after a few years of monitoring.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2021 - 3:59 PM ET #103

    Notice how the 3 Neuro-plastic zombies of the Pavlovian kind (Stump, PB and third person) all pile on at the end to get the last word? And I would've bet anyone that this would be the case here on Covers. It's their feeble attempt to exercise their perceived "power" over free (truth) speech by attacking anything that threatens their MSM conditioning. 

    These 3 wouldn't recognize tyranny if it slapped a mask on their face and made them stand 6 feet apart. Of course they can't wait for their masters to brain chip them into complete servitude to the corrupt state for which they stand. Just playing their part in the mass delusional psychosis that now permiates soceity. an_shake

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
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    Notice how the 3 Neuro-plastic zombies of the Pavlovian kind (Stump, PB and third person) all pile on at the end to get the last word? And I would've bet anyone that this would be the case here on Covers. It's their feeble attempt to exercise their perceived "power" over free (truth) speech by attacking anything that threatens their MSM conditioning. 

    These 3 wouldn't recognize tyranny if it slapped a mask on their face and made them stand 6 feet apart. Of course they can't wait for their masters to brain chip them into complete servitude to the corrupt state for which they stand. Just playing their part in the mass delusional psychosis that now permiates soceity. an_shake

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2021 - 5:17 PM ET #104

    Free spike proteins circulating after vaccination are occurring. This is a major problem that wasn't supposed to occur. Large spikes of lipids in the ovaries and bone marrow this should raise alarms to any women who plan on becoming pregnant in the future. The spikes in the bone marrow may well lead to an increase in leukemia. Needless to say it's not good.

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    Free spike proteins circulating after vaccination are occurring. This is a major problem that wasn't supposed to occur. Large spikes of lipids in the ovaries and bone marrow this should raise alarms to any women who plan on becoming pregnant in the future. The spikes in the bone marrow may well lead to an increase in leukemia. Needless to say it's not good.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2021 - 7:21 PM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdoubleplay:

    Free spike proteins circulating after vaccination are occurring. This is a major problem that wasn't supposed to occur. Large spikes of lipids in the ovaries and bone marrow this should raise alarms to any women who plan on becoming pregnant in the future. The spikes in the bone marrow may well lead to an increase in leukemia.

    No scientific evidence that covid vaccine spike proteins are toxic according to fact checks by Reuters, politifact and full fact.  Spike protein created by vaccine is not the same as spike protein from coronavirus.  It has been modified to be harmless, not accumulate in body and not travel via bloodstream.  Covid vaccines are recommended for pregnant woman by Society for fetal maternal medicine and American college of obstetrics and gynecology.  Vaccines are safer than the risks of covid infections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdoubleplay:

    Free spike proteins circulating after vaccination are occurring. This is a major problem that wasn't supposed to occur. Large spikes of lipids in the ovaries and bone marrow this should raise alarms to any women who plan on becoming pregnant in the future. The spikes in the bone marrow may well lead to an increase in leukemia.

    No scientific evidence that covid vaccine spike proteins are toxic according to fact checks by Reuters, politifact and full fact.  Spike protein created by vaccine is not the same as spike protein from coronavirus.  It has been modified to be harmless, not accumulate in body and not travel via bloodstream.  Covid vaccines are recommended for pregnant woman by Society for fetal maternal medicine and American college of obstetrics and gynecology.  Vaccines are safer than the risks of covid infections.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2021 - 7:38 PM ET #106

    What are the odds of the following? British Airways loses 4 pilots in 1 week shortly after each decides to take the 2nd 'kill' shot! Here is the story.

    Four British Airway pilots DIE in the same week, just days after getting second covid shot – NaturalNews.com

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    What are the odds of the following? British Airways loses 4 pilots in 1 week shortly after each decides to take the 2nd 'kill' shot! Here is the story.

    Four British Airway pilots DIE in the same week, just days after getting second covid shot – NaturalNews.com

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2021 - 6:26 PM ET #107

    Fact checker Snopes rates false the claim that 4 pilots died from vaccination.  British airways and families of the deceased reject secondhand rumors that the deaths of 4 pilots are linked.  Actually, one pilot died from coronavirus while another died from internal bleeding at mountain bike site.  Conspiracy theorists often blame any death on vaccines despite no evidence.

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    Fact checker Snopes rates false the claim that 4 pilots died from vaccination.  British airways and families of the deceased reject secondhand rumors that the deaths of 4 pilots are linked.  Actually, one pilot died from coronavirus while another died from internal bleeding at mountain bike site.  Conspiracy theorists often blame any death on vaccines despite no evidence.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2021 - 6:53 PM ET #108

    4 pilots from the same Airline

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fact checker Snopes rates false the claim that 4 pilots died from vaccination.  British airways and families of the deceased reject secondhand rumors that the deaths of 4 pilots are linked.  Actually, one pilot died from coronavirus while another died from internal bleeding at mountain bike site.  Conspiracy theorists often blame any death on vaccines despite no evidence.
    perish after taking the 'kill' shot!

    The vaccinated can have a positive virus test. My very educated guess is the spike protein caused internal bleeding inside the 2nd pilot. 

    What is going to happen when the NFL loses a star player caused by mandating the vaccine upon it's players? Cole Beasley is making the right decision by declining to take the shot.

    I can not  believe you are allowed to post this total disinformation!

     

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    4 pilots from the same Airline

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fact checker Snopes rates false the claim that 4 pilots died from vaccination.  British airways and families of the deceased reject secondhand rumors that the deaths of 4 pilots are linked.  Actually, one pilot died from coronavirus while another died from internal bleeding at mountain bike site.  Conspiracy theorists often blame any death on vaccines despite no evidence.
    perish after taking the 'kill' shot!

    The vaccinated can have a positive virus test. My very educated guess is the spike protein caused internal bleeding inside the 2nd pilot. 

    What is going to happen when the NFL loses a star player caused by mandating the vaccine upon it's players? Cole Beasley is making the right decision by declining to take the shot.

    I can not  believe you are allowed to post this total disinformation!

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2021 - 6:55 PM ET #109

    Families are talking about the following tragedies caused by the shot.

    dIPuUGxf.jpeg (720×1280) (patriots.win)

     

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    Families are talking about the following tragedies caused by the shot.

    dIPuUGxf.jpeg (720×1280) (patriots.win)

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2021 - 5:52 PM ET #110

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Families are talking about the following tragedies caused by the shot. dIPuUGxf.jpeg (720×1280) (patriots.win)

    The USA COVID-19 death toll is over 604,000.  That is the REAL tragedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Families are talking about the following tragedies caused by the shot. dIPuUGxf.jpeg (720×1280) (patriots.win)

    The USA COVID-19 death toll is over 604,000.  That is the REAL tragedy.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2021 - 10:55 PM ET #111

    The stupidity of the MAGA goofs in full force in this thread...something similar happened in Cambodia years ago. Pol Pot and his gang who were all uneducated came outta the jungle and killed all the teachers, doctors, scientists, etc and gained power. Some want this to happen here. You effing clowns(MAGA) would rather put your trust in Trump, Pillow guy, Gaetz, MTG and the assholes on Fox, than in science. And there is a TON of fucking goofs like this in America...good times ahead.

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    The stupidity of the MAGA goofs in full force in this thread...something similar happened in Cambodia years ago. Pol Pot and his gang who were all uneducated came outta the jungle and killed all the teachers, doctors, scientists, etc and gained power. Some want this to happen here. You effing clowns(MAGA) would rather put your trust in Trump, Pillow guy, Gaetz, MTG and the assholes on Fox, than in science. And there is a TON of fucking goofs like this in America...good times ahead.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fullblown:

    The stupidity of the MAGA goofs in full force in this thread...something similar happened in Cambodia years ago. Pol Pot and his gang who were all uneducated came outta the jungle and killed all the teachers, doctors, scientists, etc and gained power. Some want this to happen here. You effing clowns(MAGA) would rather put your trust in Trump, Pillow guy, Gaetz, MTG and the assholes on Fox, than in science. And there is a TON of fucking goofs like this in America...good times ahead.

    I got some really good childhood friends out of the deal. Some of my homies weren't just the children of refugees. They were refugees themselves. I have friends who escaped the khmer rouge on foot when they were 2, 3, 4 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullblown:

    The stupidity of the MAGA goofs in full force in this thread...something similar happened in Cambodia years ago. Pol Pot and his gang who were all uneducated came outta the jungle and killed all the teachers, doctors, scientists, etc and gained power. Some want this to happen here. You effing clowns(MAGA) would rather put your trust in Trump, Pillow guy, Gaetz, MTG and the assholes on Fox, than in science. And there is a TON of fucking goofs like this in America...good times ahead.

    I got some really good childhood friends out of the deal. Some of my homies weren't just the children of refugees. They were refugees themselves. I have friends who escaped the khmer rouge on foot when they were 2, 3, 4 years old.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2021 - 10:36 AM ET #113

    Scary statistic regarding the variant. Vaccinated people are 8x more likely to succumb to the Delta variant vs those who rejected the shot!

    Mortality rate from Delta variant eight times higher in “fully vaccinated” individuals – NaturalNews.com

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    Scary statistic regarding the variant. Vaccinated people are 8x more likely to succumb to the Delta variant vs those who rejected the shot!

    Mortality rate from Delta variant eight times higher in “fully vaccinated” individuals – NaturalNews.com

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Scary statistic regarding the variant. Vaccinated people are 8x more likely to succumb to the Delta variant vs those who rejected the shot! Mortality rate from Delta variant eight times higher in “fully vaccinated” individuals – NaturalNews.com

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Scary statistic regarding the variant. Vaccinated people are 8x more likely to succumb to the Delta variant vs those who rejected the shot! Mortality rate from Delta variant eight times higher in “fully vaccinated” individuals – NaturalNews.com

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2021 - 2:50 PM ET #115

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Mortality rate from Delta variant eight times higher in “fully vaccinated” individuals – NaturalNews.com

    Not mentioned is that most deaths are among vaccinated people over 50 years of age.  Despite 95% vaccine effectiveness, some older people remain vulnerable because of weaker immune systems.  Most of the unvaccinated are young people who are scheduled for later vaccination.  UK health department still recommends vaccination of population to protect millions of lives.

    Natural news is one of the most discredited sources of disinformation on the internet according to mediabiasfactcheck. It is known for quackery pseudoscience and conspiracy theories with very low factual reporting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Mortality rate from Delta variant eight times higher in “fully vaccinated” individuals – NaturalNews.com

    Not mentioned is that most deaths are among vaccinated people over 50 years of age.  Despite 95% vaccine effectiveness, some older people remain vulnerable because of weaker immune systems.  Most of the unvaccinated are young people who are scheduled for later vaccination.  UK health department still recommends vaccination of population to protect millions of lives.

    Natural news is one of the most discredited sources of disinformation on the internet according to mediabiasfactcheck. It is known for quackery pseudoscience and conspiracy theories with very low factual reporting.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Scary statistic regarding the variant. Vaccinated people are 8x more likely to succumb to the Delta variant vs those who rejected the shot! Mortality rate from Delta variant eight times higher in “fully vaccinated” individuals – NaturalNews.com

    This story doesn't show any actual data, doesn't cite any sources for their data, and when you scroll to the bottom looking for sources, they list themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Scary statistic regarding the variant. Vaccinated people are 8x more likely to succumb to the Delta variant vs those who rejected the shot! Mortality rate from Delta variant eight times higher in “fully vaccinated” individuals – NaturalNews.com

    This story doesn't show any actual data, doesn't cite any sources for their data, and when you scroll to the bottom looking for sources, they list themselves.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Scary statistic regarding the variant. Vaccinated people are 8x more likely to succumb to the Delta variant vs those who rejected the shot! Mortality rate from Delta variant eight times higher in “fully vaccinated” individuals – NaturalNews.com

    2 old and tired facts regarding people who caught the virus.

    1. 70% of those were over weight.

    2. 90% were lacking proper levels of vitamin d.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Scary statistic regarding the variant. Vaccinated people are 8x more likely to succumb to the Delta variant vs those who rejected the shot! Mortality rate from Delta variant eight times higher in “fully vaccinated” individuals – NaturalNews.com

    2 old and tired facts regarding people who caught the virus.

    1. 70% of those were over weight.

    2. 90% were lacking proper levels of vitamin d.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fullblown:

    The stupidity of the MAGA goofs in full force in this thread...something similar happened in Cambodia years ago. Pol Pot and his gang who were all uneducated came outta the jungle and killed all the teachers, doctors, scientists, etc and gained power. Some want this to happen here. You effing clowns(MAGA) would rather put your trust in Trump, Pillow guy, Gaetz, MTG and the assholes on Fox, than in science. And there is a TON of fucking goofs like this in America...good times ahead.

    Nice to see you back in action fullblown. I hope all is well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullblown:

    The stupidity of the MAGA goofs in full force in this thread...something similar happened in Cambodia years ago. Pol Pot and his gang who were all uneducated came outta the jungle and killed all the teachers, doctors, scientists, etc and gained power. Some want this to happen here. You effing clowns(MAGA) would rather put your trust in Trump, Pillow guy, Gaetz, MTG and the assholes on Fox, than in science. And there is a TON of fucking goofs like this in America...good times ahead.

    Nice to see you back in action fullblown. I hope all is well!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Scary statistic regarding the variant. Vaccinated people are 8x more likely to succumb to the Delta variant vs those who rejected the shot! Mortality rate from Delta variant eight times higher in “fully vaccinated” individuals – NaturalNews.com This story doesn't show any actual data, doesn't cite any sources for their data, and when you scroll to the bottom looking for sources, they list themselves.

    I will research this and see what I can find Stu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Scary statistic regarding the variant. Vaccinated people are 8x more likely to succumb to the Delta variant vs those who rejected the shot! Mortality rate from Delta variant eight times higher in “fully vaccinated” individuals – NaturalNews.com This story doesn't show any actual data, doesn't cite any sources for their data, and when you scroll to the bottom looking for sources, they list themselves.

    I will research this and see what I can find Stu.

     
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    I will research this and see what I can find Stu.

    How do you research something that doesn't exist?an_roll_laugh

    i'll be waiting along with Stu.

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    I will research this and see what I can find Stu.

    How do you research something that doesn't exist?an_roll_laugh

    i'll be waiting along with Stu.

     
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    an_laugh Nature News

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    an_laugh Nature News

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Scary statistic regarding the variant. Vaccinated people are 8x more likely to succumb to the Delta variant vs those who rejected the shot! Mortality rate from Delta variant eight times higher in “fully vaccinated” individuals – NaturalNews.com 2 old and tired facts regarding people who caught the virus. 1. 70% of those were over weight. 2. 90% were lacking proper levels of vitamin d.

    1. 70 percent of the population could be considered overweight. Something like 50% is obese.

    I would guess 90% of the population is vitamin D deficient. As we have moved indoors, and embraced sedentary lifestyles, even white people aren't getting enough Vit D from the sun. Unless you're not only white but of Northern European descent and you're a farmer, or a construction worker, or a surf bum, or a bum bum, chances are you are Vit D deficient, unless you are taking a supplement.

    Most who caught the virus were old too. None of this make the virus a non-issue. I'm not an advocate for shutdowns, etc. but viruses are real. The threat of a respiratory virus pandemic has been known about, and talked about, for long before covid 19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Scary statistic regarding the variant. Vaccinated people are 8x more likely to succumb to the Delta variant vs those who rejected the shot! Mortality rate from Delta variant eight times higher in “fully vaccinated” individuals – NaturalNews.com 2 old and tired facts regarding people who caught the virus. 1. 70% of those were over weight. 2. 90% were lacking proper levels of vitamin d.

    1. 70 percent of the population could be considered overweight. Something like 50% is obese.

    I would guess 90% of the population is vitamin D deficient. As we have moved indoors, and embraced sedentary lifestyles, even white people aren't getting enough Vit D from the sun. Unless you're not only white but of Northern European descent and you're a farmer, or a construction worker, or a surf bum, or a bum bum, chances are you are Vit D deficient, unless you are taking a supplement.

    Most who caught the virus were old too. None of this make the virus a non-issue. I'm not an advocate for shutdowns, etc. but viruses are real. The threat of a respiratory virus pandemic has been known about, and talked about, for long before covid 19.

     
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    Per Wikipedia:

    Natural News is a "far-right, anti-vaccination conspiracy theory and fake news website known for promoting alternative medicine, pseudoscience and far-right extremism."

    Keep shooting off your mouth, Sundance.  You do a great job at damaging your own reputation.

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    Per Wikipedia:

    Natural News is a "far-right, anti-vaccination conspiracy theory and fake news website known for promoting alternative medicine, pseudoscience and far-right extremism."

    Keep shooting off your mouth, Sundance.  You do a great job at damaging your own reputation.

     
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    How many agents does this site have?  They were quick to say OP and others spread false info yet thr past year has revealed the truth.

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    How many agents does this site have?  They were quick to say OP and others spread false info yet thr past year has revealed the truth.

     
     
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    Interesting thread to say the least. 

    For me it's show me good data. Not twisted, manipulated going back to January 2021 crap, show me straight data.

    I found one state that has "what looks like" terrific data. MINNESOTA.

    Excel file weekly data of vaccinated vs unvaccinated starting from May 2nd, 2021. Anybody can download it here; https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/stats/vbt.html

    I calculated the weekly numbers to monthly percentage for the vaccinated. For percent vaccinated took the data from Our World in Data, going 10 days before the start of a month as covid takes an avg of 21 days to kill, less for hospitalizations, 10 seemed to be middling it.

    So here is how THE VACCINATED have faired in Minnesota;

    MONTH. %VAXED   %CASES     %DEATHS  % HOS.

    MAY.       32.               7.7.             3.75.            11.8

    JUNE.    42.9             17.9.            30.7.           21.5.     

    JULY.    50.2.             27.5.            27.4.           23.5

    AUG.    53.2.             34.7.            37.2.           26.3

    SEPT   55.1.              36.6.           39.1.            30.7

    OCT.    57.6.             41.7.            43.7.           34.2

    NOV.    59.3.             44.8.           37.5.           31.7

    DEC.   62.1.              51.7.          28.6.            29.3

    JAN.   65.0.             62.9.           53.3.            49.7

    FEBW1 66.7.           64.8.           56.9.             57.7

     

    NOTICE THE DROP IN DEATHS AND HOSPITALIZATIONS FOR NOVEMBER/DECEMBER. MINNESOTA HAD A BIG BOOSTER SHOT PUSH AND GOT 53% BOOSTED. THEN NOTICE JANUARY AND 1ST WEEK OF FEBRUARY WHERE THE DATA STOPS, RIGHT BACK UP!! VACCINE ALMOST NOT WORKING NOW!

    SO, ARE THE VACCINATED IMMUNE SYSTEMS WEAKENED? TO ME DATA SAYS NO.

    HAS THE VIRUS MADE IT'S WAY AROUND OUR CURRENT VACCINE? TO ME DATA SAYS YES.

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    Interesting thread to say the least. 

    For me it's show me good data. Not twisted, manipulated going back to January 2021 crap, show me straight data.

    I found one state that has "what looks like" terrific data. MINNESOTA.

    Excel file weekly data of vaccinated vs unvaccinated starting from May 2nd, 2021. Anybody can download it here; https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/stats/vbt.html

    I calculated the weekly numbers to monthly percentage for the vaccinated. For percent vaccinated took the data from Our World in Data, going 10 days before the start of a month as covid takes an avg of 21 days to kill, less for hospitalizations, 10 seemed to be middling it.

    So here is how THE VACCINATED have faired in Minnesota;

    MONTH. %VAXED   %CASES     %DEATHS  % HOS.

    MAY.       32.               7.7.             3.75.            11.8

    JUNE.    42.9             17.9.            30.7.           21.5.     

    JULY.    50.2.             27.5.            27.4.           23.5

    AUG.    53.2.             34.7.            37.2.           26.3

    SEPT   55.1.              36.6.           39.1.            30.7

    OCT.    57.6.             41.7.            43.7.           34.2

    NOV.    59.3.             44.8.           37.5.           31.7

    DEC.   62.1.              51.7.          28.6.            29.3

    JAN.   65.0.             62.9.           53.3.            49.7

    FEBW1 66.7.           64.8.           56.9.             57.7

     

    NOTICE THE DROP IN DEATHS AND HOSPITALIZATIONS FOR NOVEMBER/DECEMBER. MINNESOTA HAD A BIG BOOSTER SHOT PUSH AND GOT 53% BOOSTED. THEN NOTICE JANUARY AND 1ST WEEK OF FEBRUARY WHERE THE DATA STOPS, RIGHT BACK UP!! VACCINE ALMOST NOT WORKING NOW!

    SO, ARE THE VACCINATED IMMUNE SYSTEMS WEAKENED? TO ME DATA SAYS NO.

    HAS THE VIRUS MADE IT'S WAY AROUND OUR CURRENT VACCINE? TO ME DATA SAYS YES.

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