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    Zeus4par
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2025 - 11:06 PM ET #476

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  Well it has everything because the title of this thread is about Kirk and a large part of the thread is about the sexual preferences and approaches of the person who committed the crime and how the religious right have pigeon holed and demonized the guy based on these precepts. So religious concepts have an enormous part in this discussion from every single angle. I wondered why the LDS media came out with a statement within moments of the event, well it did not take long to find out why.

     

    Very true.  For some reason understood by 8th graders, it's kool to demonize people who are different

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  Well it has everything because the title of this thread is about Kirk and a large part of the thread is about the sexual preferences and approaches of the person who committed the crime and how the religious right have pigeon holed and demonized the guy based on these precepts. So religious concepts have an enormous part in this discussion from every single angle. I wondered why the LDS media came out with a statement within moments of the event, well it did not take long to find out why.

     

    Very true.  For some reason understood by 8th graders, it's kool to demonize people who are different

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2025 - 11:09 PM ET #477

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @StumpTownStu  Colbert has implied many times that his ouster was the clinch pin of the merger approval that had BILLIONS of dollars of impact for management and shareholders, no question in my mind that the cancellation was to clear the merger. Trump uses legal and financial weapons to get his way and I am not sure why as a country we continue to allow it.  His actions are fascist, this is how a dictator behaves to control by lawyers and financial oppression for the purpose of gaining advantage.  The public does not seem to care that the so-called leader of the country dominates and destroys our rights and liberties so he can get what he wants..this is very telling about the core deep rooted biases that society has and look the other way and actually agree and cheer his authoritarian advances. Like Colbert or not this take down is for sure not in support of the constitution and leads the US down the wrong path towards large scale social harm (removal of rights and government overreach)

    That merger was always going to happen because Larry Ellison is Larry Ellison. And as I have said many times, this country is a corporate oligarchy. It definitely was a huge factor though but also, as I said, late night talk is a dead format. Those shows were on borrowed time anyway. Doesn't make any of this right. Jimmy Kimmel was a talentless hack. No one has ever made more with such little talent. Doesn't mean he deserves to go out like this but Nexstar made the call. They said they wouldn't air it. They own all the ABC affiliates. Disney had no choice.

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    @StumpTownStu  Colbert has implied many times that his ouster was the clinch pin of the merger approval that had BILLIONS of dollars of impact for management and shareholders, no question in my mind that the cancellation was to clear the merger. Trump uses legal and financial weapons to get his way and I am not sure why as a country we continue to allow it.  His actions are fascist, this is how a dictator behaves to control by lawyers and financial oppression for the purpose of gaining advantage.  The public does not seem to care that the so-called leader of the country dominates and destroys our rights and liberties so he can get what he wants..this is very telling about the core deep rooted biases that society has and look the other way and actually agree and cheer his authoritarian advances. Like Colbert or not this take down is for sure not in support of the constitution and leads the US down the wrong path towards large scale social harm (removal of rights and government overreach)

    That merger was always going to happen because Larry Ellison is Larry Ellison. And as I have said many times, this country is a corporate oligarchy. It definitely was a huge factor though but also, as I said, late night talk is a dead format. Those shows were on borrowed time anyway. Doesn't make any of this right. Jimmy Kimmel was a talentless hack. No one has ever made more with such little talent. Doesn't mean he deserves to go out like this but Nexstar made the call. They said they wouldn't air it. They own all the ABC affiliates. Disney had no choice.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2025 - 11:15 PM ET #478

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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2025 - 5:28 AM ET #479

    Former capitol police officer Michael Fanone says no American politician has done more to normalize political violence in the US other than Trump.  By pardoning hundreds of rioters convicted of assaulting police on January 6 2021.  Trump uses Kirk's death to sow more division and advocate for violence instead of uniting the country.  

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    Former capitol police officer Michael Fanone says no American politician has done more to normalize political violence in the US other than Trump.  By pardoning hundreds of rioters convicted of assaulting police on January 6 2021.  Trump uses Kirk's death to sow more division and advocate for violence instead of uniting the country.  

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2025 - 7:54 AM ET #480

    Edison and the rest of you Kool-Aid drinking craziods I noticed "The American Comeback Tour" was on all 4 sides of his tent. In 44 years YOU have destroyed the middle class. Corporate,Government and Personal debt at all time levels.No coming back from that. In 2 generations you destroyed yourself. Amazing that you didn't see it coming. More guns than people not a good sign either. Comeback Tour my *ss. In 1981 2/3 of your country were in the middle class and thriving. Fund a college education on a weekend job because Education was cheap. Now, Students carry debt for 30 years and can't afford to buy a roof over their heads. I could list 15  more things that lead to your demise but I will leave that to the non- drinkers to come up with the rest and post. If you choose to not follow history so be it. 21 families run your country the wise thing would be not to fight amongst yourselves, FIND them and get back from the brink of civil war. Gonna be a beautiful day! Enjoy! an_light

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    Edison and the rest of you Kool-Aid drinking craziods I noticed "The American Comeback Tour" was on all 4 sides of his tent. In 44 years YOU have destroyed the middle class. Corporate,Government and Personal debt at all time levels.No coming back from that. In 2 generations you destroyed yourself. Amazing that you didn't see it coming. More guns than people not a good sign either. Comeback Tour my *ss. In 1981 2/3 of your country were in the middle class and thriving. Fund a college education on a weekend job because Education was cheap. Now, Students carry debt for 30 years and can't afford to buy a roof over their heads. I could list 15  more things that lead to your demise but I will leave that to the non- drinkers to come up with the rest and post. If you choose to not follow history so be it. 21 families run your country the wise thing would be not to fight amongst yourselves, FIND them and get back from the brink of civil war. Gonna be a beautiful day! Enjoy! an_light

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2025 - 12:22 PM ET #481

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     Sorry to hear of Gooses passing!peace

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     Sorry to hear of Gooses passing!peace

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2025 - 12:56 PM ET #482

    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: Disney's ABC said Wednesday it is pulling "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" off air "indefinitely" following the host's comments Monday about the late Charlie Kirk   During his monologue on Monday night, Kimmel raised the possibility that Tyler Robinson might have been a pro-Trump Republican Indefinitely seems like a long time.  ABC could've just boxed him for a week. It all went down hill after 'Win Ben Steins Money"
    I loved that show...good times

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    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: Disney's ABC said Wednesday it is pulling "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" off air "indefinitely" following the host's comments Monday about the late Charlie Kirk   During his monologue on Monday night, Kimmel raised the possibility that Tyler Robinson might have been a pro-Trump Republican Indefinitely seems like a long time.  ABC could've just boxed him for a week. It all went down hill after 'Win Ben Steins Money"
    I loved that show...good times

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2025 - 12:58 PM ET #483

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    It was Lance Twiggs not Triggs. But now wants to be known as LUNA Twiggs.

    yes. Sorry for the typo. Correction. Twiggs. His imaginary friends call him Twiggies. Anyone heard from Twiggies or any of his friends yet by the way? Any sitings of this person in Utah over the last few days or images of him and Robinson on a date previously? Gaming convention, Furry convention or bar together? an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    It was Lance Twiggs not Triggs. But now wants to be known as LUNA Twiggs.

    yes. Sorry for the typo. Correction. Twiggs. His imaginary friends call him Twiggies. Anyone heard from Twiggies or any of his friends yet by the way? Any sitings of this person in Utah over the last few days or images of him and Robinson on a date previously? Gaming convention, Furry convention or bar together? an_light

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2025 - 1:06 PM ET #484

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare  Telling other people to not judge makes you the person doing the judging. Christians like the title but fail to actually BE Christian. Christ does not care the sexual identity or the flaws of the individual, he loved everyone and refused none. Talk about the opposite of fake practicing Christians and Kirk himself. Christ called people that stood on pedestals as fake and false prophets, there is no place in Christianity for those who are condemning or preaching about what someone should or should not do, telling someone they are going to some fire and brimstone place that a few deathbed words can change...that is nonsense. Kirk was not a Christian in his actions or his words, people need to admire those who do good deeds and say NO words, that is the way Christ taught.

    Damn good post brother.  I was raised in Christian faith in my youth and got out of that insanity when I hit adulthood.  The amount of sheer hypocrisy that runs rampant is beyond abhorrent.  I guess since Jesus died for their sins they decide to get the most out of it.  I applaud those Christians who actually adhere to their faith and practice it honorably but those are few and far between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare  Telling other people to not judge makes you the person doing the judging. Christians like the title but fail to actually BE Christian. Christ does not care the sexual identity or the flaws of the individual, he loved everyone and refused none. Talk about the opposite of fake practicing Christians and Kirk himself. Christ called people that stood on pedestals as fake and false prophets, there is no place in Christianity for those who are condemning or preaching about what someone should or should not do, telling someone they are going to some fire and brimstone place that a few deathbed words can change...that is nonsense. Kirk was not a Christian in his actions or his words, people need to admire those who do good deeds and say NO words, that is the way Christ taught.

    Damn good post brother.  I was raised in Christian faith in my youth and got out of that insanity when I hit adulthood.  The amount of sheer hypocrisy that runs rampant is beyond abhorrent.  I guess since Jesus died for their sins they decide to get the most out of it.  I applaud those Christians who actually adhere to their faith and practice it honorably but those are few and far between.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2025 - 1:19 PM ET #485

     The latest kimmel gaffe was probably just the excuse they needed to dump him.

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     The latest kimmel gaffe was probably just the excuse they needed to dump him.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2025 - 1:46 PM ET #486

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @JOHNNY_ODAE  Sorry to hear of Gooses passing!

    Hold on, what the fukk?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @JOHNNY_ODAE  Sorry to hear of Gooses passing!

    Hold on, what the fukk?!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2025 - 1:46 PM ET #487

    @JOHNNY_ODAE

     What have I missed? I thought he was gonna be alright.

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     What have I missed? I thought he was gonna be alright.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2025 - 2:03 PM ET #488

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    The latest kimmel gaffe was probably just the excuse they needed to dump him.

    Late-night talk was already in a transitional period. They are axing shows anyway. It's just a dead format. High production costs, most of which is eaten up by the hosts salary. And people just don't watch TV in the same way. Jimmy was on borrowed time. Never in entertainment has someone made so much with so little talent. Jimmy kimmel wasn't funny. He wasn't a comedian like Leno, Letterman, etc. He didn't have the swag of a Carson, or a Craig Ferguson. He was a horrible interviewer. He's an all around bad presenter. This summer, we had tried to watch Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? but my wife couldn't get past just how horrible he was at hosting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    The latest kimmel gaffe was probably just the excuse they needed to dump him.

    Late-night talk was already in a transitional period. They are axing shows anyway. It's just a dead format. High production costs, most of which is eaten up by the hosts salary. And people just don't watch TV in the same way. Jimmy was on borrowed time. Never in entertainment has someone made so much with so little talent. Jimmy kimmel wasn't funny. He wasn't a comedian like Leno, Letterman, etc. He didn't have the swag of a Carson, or a Craig Ferguson. He was a horrible interviewer. He's an all around bad presenter. This summer, we had tried to watch Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? but my wife couldn't get past just how horrible he was at hosting.

     
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      Like I said.......just the excuse they needed.

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      Like I said.......just the excuse they needed.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2025 - 4:04 PM ET #491

    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:

    @THEMUGG  Some would say his schtick was tired.

    Literally the worst late-night talk show host in 40 years of late night talk. Dude literally has no talent. I have always watched late night talk shows, since I was a little kid. Always was a night owl. I can only speak from the mid 80's on but in that time, he was by far the worst. And that's including short loved stints. They should give permanent hosting duties to Chris Destefano. I caught a couple of his guest host episodes. He wasn't fantastic but showed potential. And at least he's a stand up comedian. Jimmy was a radio host. Fell as backwards into the man show. Adam Carolla carried him there. He gets this gig and the rest was history. He has always been really bad though. Like, if you aren't naturally funny,  you have to at least be good at interviewing guest. He was absolute dogshit at interviewing guest.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:

    @THEMUGG  Some would say his schtick was tired.

    Literally the worst late-night talk show host in 40 years of late night talk. Dude literally has no talent. I have always watched late night talk shows, since I was a little kid. Always was a night owl. I can only speak from the mid 80's on but in that time, he was by far the worst. And that's including short loved stints. They should give permanent hosting duties to Chris Destefano. I caught a couple of his guest host episodes. He wasn't fantastic but showed potential. And at least he's a stand up comedian. Jimmy was a radio host. Fell as backwards into the man show. Adam Carolla carried him there. He gets this gig and the rest was history. He has always been really bad though. Like, if you aren't naturally funny,  you have to at least be good at interviewing guest. He was absolute dogshit at interviewing guest.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2025 - 4:15 PM ET #492

    I don't believe anyone should be fired for that reason per se but I don't feel bad for him because he is so gawd awful.

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    I don't believe anyone should be fired for that reason per se but I don't feel bad for him because he is so gawd awful.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2025 - 5:20 PM ET #493

     I only had to watch once/twice to figure out he was poop. I'm amazed they carried him this long.

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     I only had to watch once/twice to figure out he was poop. I'm amazed they carried him this long.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2025 - 1:28 AM ET #494

    I hope one day they will write a book about Americans' interpretation of "free speech" because it's strange. I used to think it meant you could say what you wanted as long as I agreed with you, if not I'll sue you! Now, it means, "I will hunt you down, make you lose your job, and, if I'm in the mood, kill you." It's quite telling that you gave up that constitutional right just because it happened to someone without talent. But no amount of killing can make you give up the constitutional right that mention guns, even though it's been proven that you don't use it when troops are unlawfully stationed in your states. (And wasn't that the reason it was in the Constitution in the first place?) Make it make sense.

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    I hope one day they will write a book about Americans' interpretation of "free speech" because it's strange. I used to think it meant you could say what you wanted as long as I agreed with you, if not I'll sue you! Now, it means, "I will hunt you down, make you lose your job, and, if I'm in the mood, kill you." It's quite telling that you gave up that constitutional right just because it happened to someone without talent. But no amount of killing can make you give up the constitutional right that mention guns, even though it's been proven that you don't use it when troops are unlawfully stationed in your states. (And wasn't that the reason it was in the Constitution in the first place?) Make it make sense.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2025 - 1:45 AM ET #495

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     I have free speech and guns under this President.

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     I have free speech and guns under this President.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2025 - 3:32 AM ET #496

    Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

    @Calde13  I have free speech and guns under this President.

     

    That is just because you agree with this one - next one you might not and then you don’t have free speech anymore ! - With your definition in mind every country on planet earth have “free speech” - and then I would question why you would need to write that “right” down

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

    @Calde13  I have free speech and guns under this President.

     

    That is just because you agree with this one - next one you might not and then you don’t have free speech anymore ! - With your definition in mind every country on planet earth have “free speech” - and then I would question why you would need to write that “right” down

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    I hope one day they will write a book about Americans' interpretation of "free speech" because it's strange. But no amount of killing can make you give up the constitutional right that mention guns, even though it's been proven that you don't use it when troops are unlawfully stationed in your states. (And wasn't that the reason it was in the Constitution in the first place?)

    US constitution second amendment is outdated.  Original purpose of right to own gun is to prevent tyranny.  Now guns are less effective than elections in preventing tyranny because of modern security or military.  Instead guns endanger public health.  Also perverse for gun right to undermine free speech right by killing people.  Without gun right, other countries have more freedom than the US.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    I hope one day they will write a book about Americans' interpretation of "free speech" because it's strange. But no amount of killing can make you give up the constitutional right that mention guns, even though it's been proven that you don't use it when troops are unlawfully stationed in your states. (And wasn't that the reason it was in the Constitution in the first place?)

    US constitution second amendment is outdated.  Original purpose of right to own gun is to prevent tyranny.  Now guns are less effective than elections in preventing tyranny because of modern security or military.  Instead guns endanger public health.  Also perverse for gun right to undermine free speech right by killing people.  Without gun right, other countries have more freedom than the US.  

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2025 - 9:36 AM ET #498

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     You're right, we need guns for tyranny right NOW. Can't believe we agree! Tyranny has been much worse prior to 2024. Glad I have every one of my weapons! By the way, I'm 64 and have never pointed a gun at a human. Should I lose my guns due to some mental retard?

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    @thirdperson

     You're right, we need guns for tyranny right NOW. Can't believe we agree! Tyranny has been much worse prior to 2024. Glad I have every one of my weapons! By the way, I'm 64 and have never pointed a gun at a human. Should I lose my guns due to some mental retard?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: It was Lance Twiggs not Triggs. But now wants to be known as LUNA Twiggs. yes. Sorry for the typo. Correction. Twiggs. His imaginary friends call him Twiggies. Anyone heard from Twiggies or any of his friends yet by the way? Any sitings of this person in Utah over the last few days or images of him and Robinson on a date previously? Gaming convention, Furry convention or bar together?

    Yeah, it's all one big rightwing conspiracy. You go with that and never give up! an_roll_laugh

     

    Actually I would say, based on the text exchange, that Robinson was infatuated with Twiggs but Twiggs reaction shows little emotion in return. Of course that's all satire in your world. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: It was Lance Twiggs not Triggs. But now wants to be known as LUNA Twiggs. yes. Sorry for the typo. Correction. Twiggs. His imaginary friends call him Twiggies. Anyone heard from Twiggies or any of his friends yet by the way? Any sitings of this person in Utah over the last few days or images of him and Robinson on a date previously? Gaming convention, Furry convention or bar together?

    Yeah, it's all one big rightwing conspiracy. You go with that and never give up! an_roll_laugh

     

    Actually I would say, based on the text exchange, that Robinson was infatuated with Twiggs but Twiggs reaction shows little emotion in return. Of course that's all satire in your world. 

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