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    Can an Intelligent Republican Trump Lover Please explain

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    Last2thirst
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2016 - 2:48 PM ET #1

    ....why you back someone who likes to flip flop and not show any conviction, courage or integrity based on his changes to his Immigration policy? Isn't it the most fundamental position of his platform besides the childish mantra of 'crooked Hillary'. He is once again, abandoning his supporters creating confusion and dissension all to Hillary's benefit (which is why he is likely doing it since they are Democratic friends.....haven't people forgotten....Trump is a lefty flipflopper....more evidence includes Chelsea Clinton and Ivanka Trump are close buddies and Ivanka is now travelling and cavorting with the current girlfriend of Putin who is another left-leaning communist with fascist tendencies?) 

    Didn't Ann Coulter just write an influential book called IN TRUMP WE TRUST solely based on the premise of his actions and initiatives to try and clean up the Immigration policy? Some comments today in some media:

    Trump has promised a formal announcement on immigration in the next two weeks. His verbal shift has already prompted an eruption of I-told-you-so from his vanquished opponents and their allies.

    “It is unsurprising that Donald Trump is finally faced with reconciling his immigration policy with reality, something Gov. Bush predicted last year,” Bush spokeswoman Kristy Campbell told Politico.

    “Everything Trump promises comes with an expiration date,” former Cruz spokeswoman Amanda Carpenter told Politico. “We knew it during the primary, and now it is apparent he has duped his most loyal supporters on the issue they care about most, immigration. Don’t say we didn’t warn them.”

    If you are a right winger, you have a rat amongst you who is going to mess up your party so much to the benefit of Hillary and the Democrats, which, if you connect the dots, seems to be that is what is the TRUE MODUS OPERANDI of what Donald Trump is trying to do. He doesn't love American, he loves himself, attention and his connections that he is going to forge from this experience to benefit himself....not Americans. But then again, since I believe in actually improving America, having him show how flawed the political system is might actually be a benefit in the long run.

    Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    ....why you back someone who likes to flip flop and not show any conviction, courage or integrity based on his changes to his Immigration policy? Isn't it the most fundamental position of his platform besides the childish mantra of 'crooked Hillary'. He is once again, abandoning his supporters creating confusion and dissension all to Hillary's benefit (which is why he is likely doing it since they are Democratic friends.....haven't people forgotten....Trump is a lefty flipflopper....more evidence includes Chelsea Clinton and Ivanka Trump are close buddies and Ivanka is now travelling and cavorting with the current girlfriend of Putin who is another left-leaning communist with fascist tendencies?) 

    Didn't Ann Coulter just write an influential book called IN TRUMP WE TRUST solely based on the premise of his actions and initiatives to try and clean up the Immigration policy? Some comments today in some media:

    Trump has promised a formal announcement on immigration in the next two weeks. His verbal shift has already prompted an eruption of I-told-you-so from his vanquished opponents and their allies.

    “It is unsurprising that Donald Trump is finally faced with reconciling his immigration policy with reality, something Gov. Bush predicted last year,” Bush spokeswoman Kristy Campbell told Politico.

    “Everything Trump promises comes with an expiration date,” former Cruz spokeswoman Amanda Carpenter told Politico. “We knew it during the primary, and now it is apparent he has duped his most loyal supporters on the issue they care about most, immigration. Don’t say we didn’t warn them.”

    If you are a right winger, you have a rat amongst you who is going to mess up your party so much to the benefit of Hillary and the Democrats, which, if you connect the dots, seems to be that is what is the TRUE MODUS OPERANDI of what Donald Trump is trying to do. He doesn't love American, he loves himself, attention and his connections that he is going to forge from this experience to benefit himself....not Americans. But then again, since I believe in actually improving America, having him show how flawed the political system is might actually be a benefit in the long run.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2016 - 4:01 PM ET #2

    I think it would be easy to say that you get no response because there is no such thing as an intelligent trump lover. Seems like an oxymoron. 

    The reality is that there are probably informed and intelligent trump supporters and that they can't be as bad as what we often see on this site. 

    But the problem with these facts are than any intelligent person wouldn't argue against them.  So this rules out the intelligent trump supporter.  And the low information low education trump supporter is not smart enough to come up with an intellogent rebutal or be able to even conduct a civil dialog about trump and would resort to prescribed talking points about Hillary.

    Ipc  


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    I think it would be easy to say that you get no response because there is no such thing as an intelligent trump lover. Seems like an oxymoron. 

    The reality is that there are probably informed and intelligent trump supporters and that they can't be as bad as what we often see on this site. 

    But the problem with these facts are than any intelligent person wouldn't argue against them.  So this rules out the intelligent trump supporter.  And the low information low education trump supporter is not smart enough to come up with an intellogent rebutal or be able to even conduct a civil dialog about trump and would resort to prescribed talking points about Hillary.

    Ipc  


     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2016 - 4:10 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    I think it would be easy to say that you get no response because there is no such thing as an intelligent trump lover. Seems like an oxymoron. 

    The reality is that there are probably informed and intelligent trump supporters and that they can't be as bad as what we often see on this site. 

    But the problem with these facts are than any intelligent person wouldn't argue against them.  So this rules out the intelligent trump supporter.  And the low information low education trump supporter is not smart enough to come up with an intellogent rebutal or be able to even conduct a civil dialog about trump and would resort to prescribed talking points about Hillary.

    Ipc  



    I figured the oxymoron would confuse them...lol....

    Its ok....they need to read, listen and talk less....because this is all that keeps happening to them 
    Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    I think it would be easy to say that you get no response because there is no such thing as an intelligent trump lover. Seems like an oxymoron. 

    The reality is that there are probably informed and intelligent trump supporters and that they can't be as bad as what we often see on this site. 

    But the problem with these facts are than any intelligent person wouldn't argue against them.  So this rules out the intelligent trump supporter.  And the low information low education trump supporter is not smart enough to come up with an intellogent rebutal or be able to even conduct a civil dialog about trump and would resort to prescribed talking points about Hillary.

    Ipc  



    I figured the oxymoron would confuse them...lol....

    Its ok....they need to read, listen and talk less....because this is all that keeps happening to them 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2016 - 4:31 PM ET #4

    You did not build that! You can keep your plan! You can keep your doctor! The most beautiful sound is the call to Muslim prayer. Increasing the debt limit does not increase our debt! Do not cross the red line! Peddling fiction! John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith!

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    You did not build that! You can keep your plan! You can keep your doctor! The most beautiful sound is the call to Muslim prayer. Increasing the debt limit does not increase our debt! Do not cross the red line! Peddling fiction! John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith!

     
    Last2thirst
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2016 - 5:04 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    You did not build that! You can keep your plan! You can keep your doctor! The most beautiful sound is the call to Muslim prayer. Increasing the debt limit does not increase our debt! Do not cross the red line! Peddling fiction! John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith!


    Huh?  Take a pill and have a 
    I need some intelligent speak to know where you are at or wish to discuss.....not Mr. Roboto talk!
    Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    You did not build that! You can keep your plan! You can keep your doctor! The most beautiful sound is the call to Muslim prayer. Increasing the debt limit does not increase our debt! Do not cross the red line! Peddling fiction! John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith!


    Huh?  Take a pill and have a 
    I need some intelligent speak to know where you are at or wish to discuss.....not Mr. Roboto talk!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2016 - 5:19 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:


    I figured the oxymoron would confuse them...lol....

    Its ok....they need to read, listen and talk less....because this is all that keeps happening to them 

    Wow,  you would think the above post should go first and then this post second.  I honestly don't even understand what sundance is trying to say but it does not resemble anything like and intelligent response to the topic and issues brought up.  It's like he saw your post and decided to post in a way that proves exactly what you were saying. 

    To at least start the discussion, I think the ann coulter thing is interesting because I used to think coulter was a wacko nutjob.  Until I realized her game that she is nothing more than an attentionwhore wanting to gain as much air time by stirring up drama for her own personal gain and noteriety.  Coulter would often say something that would have the most gullible and emotional lemmings of the GOP cheering and believing her rhetoric and leave the more sensible majority of people shaking their heads I complete disbelief. 

    So what trump did was steal her exact formula.  Putting out rhetoric and talking points that rounded up the most emotional and guillible low information masses of the GOP while leaving much of the more sensible majority of Americans shaking their heads. 

    So coulter then hitches her wagon to trump who stil her formula by writing this book.  And now that trump is appearing spineless flipping and flopping around she's upset.  And while she might say it is about principles, you have to remember that people like trump/coulter lack principles.  They will say anything to get attention and round up those that want to hear the rhetorics they want rather than truth or even reality.  

    So coulter is upset because trump's spineless flipping and flopping with a lack of solid principles hurts her own personal gain and agenda with her book sales.  Coulter is about her own personal gain and attention and is basically a sell out willing to say or do anything that gains popularity with her audience.   Ironically she of all people should have been able to predict this but I think with all the crazy emotional trump support she bet that it would be profitable to hitch her wagon to trump. But now that trump is going down in flames she needs to jump ship ASAP, not only because of her book Failing epically with trump flipping and flopping around, but because she then gets paired and associated with a spineless loser that ended up being the typical politician in the end.  

    Funny also that "In trump we trust" ends up being an oxymoron for both her and America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:


    I figured the oxymoron would confuse them...lol....

    Its ok....they need to read, listen and talk less....because this is all that keeps happening to them 

    Wow,  you would think the above post should go first and then this post second.  I honestly don't even understand what sundance is trying to say but it does not resemble anything like and intelligent response to the topic and issues brought up.  It's like he saw your post and decided to post in a way that proves exactly what you were saying. 

    To at least start the discussion, I think the ann coulter thing is interesting because I used to think coulter was a wacko nutjob.  Until I realized her game that she is nothing more than an attentionwhore wanting to gain as much air time by stirring up drama for her own personal gain and noteriety.  Coulter would often say something that would have the most gullible and emotional lemmings of the GOP cheering and believing her rhetoric and leave the more sensible majority of people shaking their heads I complete disbelief. 

    So what trump did was steal her exact formula.  Putting out rhetoric and talking points that rounded up the most emotional and guillible low information masses of the GOP while leaving much of the more sensible majority of Americans shaking their heads. 

    So coulter then hitches her wagon to trump who stil her formula by writing this book.  And now that trump is appearing spineless flipping and flopping around she's upset.  And while she might say it is about principles, you have to remember that people like trump/coulter lack principles.  They will say anything to get attention and round up those that want to hear the rhetorics they want rather than truth or even reality.  

    So coulter is upset because trump's spineless flipping and flopping with a lack of solid principles hurts her own personal gain and agenda with her book sales.  Coulter is about her own personal gain and attention and is basically a sell out willing to say or do anything that gains popularity with her audience.   Ironically she of all people should have been able to predict this but I think with all the crazy emotional trump support she bet that it would be profitable to hitch her wagon to trump. But now that trump is going down in flames she needs to jump ship ASAP, not only because of her book Failing epically with trump flipping and flopping around, but because she then gets paired and associated with a spineless loser that ended up being the typical politician in the end.  

    Funny also that "In trump we trust" ends up being an oxymoron for both her and America.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2016 - 5:19 PM ET #7

    I am showing you how unintelligent our leadership from the Left is. How many times during the 1st 4 years of O's Presidency did we hear how he is 'the smartest guy in the room'?
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    I am showing you how unintelligent our leadership from the Left is. How many times during the 1st 4 years of O's Presidency did we hear how he is 'the smartest guy in the room'?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2016 - 5:20 PM ET #8

    Trump is working with black activists in Trump towers now.
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    Trump is working with black activists in Trump towers now.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    I am showing you how unintelligent our leadership from the Left is. How many times during the 1st 4 years of O's Presidency did we hear how he is 'the smartest guy in the room'?

    That's just relative though. Look who preceded him the previous 8 years. Not difficult to look smart following that moron. 

    The really funny part is that the Republicans, in an election that should be a gimme, managed to come up with a candidate that's probably not going to win. 

    Is it too late to dump Trump and nominate Gary Johnson? You'll still get the white trash, redneck vote. You also might get enough votes from people who are capable of independent thought to win too. 

    Just an idea. Or you can keep losing elections to inferior candidates. Your choice. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    I am showing you how unintelligent our leadership from the Left is. How many times during the 1st 4 years of O's Presidency did we hear how he is 'the smartest guy in the room'?

    That's just relative though. Look who preceded him the previous 8 years. Not difficult to look smart following that moron. 

    The really funny part is that the Republicans, in an election that should be a gimme, managed to come up with a candidate that's probably not going to win. 

    Is it too late to dump Trump and nominate Gary Johnson? You'll still get the white trash, redneck vote. You also might get enough votes from people who are capable of independent thought to win too. 

    Just an idea. Or you can keep losing elections to inferior candidates. Your choice. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2016 - 5:34 PM ET #10

    I'm not a Republican or Democrat either...

    My question for you is... Do you think Mrs. Clinton better than Mr. Trump? Do you think the DNC transparency? 


     
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    I'm not a Republican or Democrat either...

    My question for you is... Do you think Mrs. Clinton better than Mr. Trump? Do you think the DNC transparency? 


     
     
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    I agree ktrain. 2012 should have been a gimme as well as this one. The Repubs do not know how to win.
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    I agree ktrain. 2012 should have been a gimme as well as this one. The Repubs do not know how to win.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2016 - 6:07 PM ET #12

    Trump was a democrat. So what. So was I. It's nauseating to admit that I was that stupid.

    You must be new to politics. What trump is doing is playing the game. There are republican loyalists, loyal to the establishment crown, that trump has to win over. By softening his positions, trump is trying to win the support of loyalist aristocrats.

    America should be allies with Putin. I might not agree with all of policies but that man is a true alpha. I respect that. I think Russia, France, Japan, Israel, South Korea, and the Philippines should be Americas biggest allies IMO. If that's evidence that trump is a lefty parading as republican, then what do you think it says about Hillary when she has ties to Muslim extremists, Saul Alinsky, the K-K-K, Iran, and Saudi Arabia?

    Trump is a true patriot to the core. He only ran for office because people had been pushing him to run for 30 years. Trump is playing the role of John Hancock and George Washington. Hancock because he was the money behind the American revolution. It takes millions to run for office. Washington because George didn't even want to be president. He was voted in by the patriots to lead.
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    Trump was a democrat. So what. So was I. It's nauseating to admit that I was that stupid.

    You must be new to politics. What trump is doing is playing the game. There are republican loyalists, loyal to the establishment crown, that trump has to win over. By softening his positions, trump is trying to win the support of loyalist aristocrats.

    America should be allies with Putin. I might not agree with all of policies but that man is a true alpha. I respect that. I think Russia, France, Japan, Israel, South Korea, and the Philippines should be Americas biggest allies IMO. If that's evidence that trump is a lefty parading as republican, then what do you think it says about Hillary when she has ties to Muslim extremists, Saul Alinsky, the K-K-K, Iran, and Saudi Arabia?

    Trump is a true patriot to the core. He only ran for office because people had been pushing him to run for 30 years. Trump is playing the role of John Hancock and George Washington. Hancock because he was the money behind the American revolution. It takes millions to run for office. Washington because George didn't even want to be president. He was voted in by the patriots to lead.
     
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    "The most beautiful sound is the call to muslim prayer" Yeah and the hope for sharia law one day.  Extra funny sh!t.......sundance

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    "The most beautiful sound is the call to muslim prayer" Yeah and the hope for sharia law one day.  Extra funny sh!t.......sundance

     
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    I'm not really sure I would compare Donald Trump to George Washington but ok. I don't think George would run around yelling "YOU'RE FIRED!!!" to a bunch of D-list celebs if he were around today. 
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    I'm not really sure I would compare Donald Trump to George Washington but ok. I don't think George would run around yelling "YOU'RE FIRED!!!" to a bunch of D-list celebs if he were around today. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    I'm not really sure I would compare Donald Trump to George Washington but ok. I don't think George would run around yelling "YOU'RE FIRED!!!" to a bunch of D-list celebs if he were around today. 


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5hWWe-ts2s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    I'm not really sure I would compare Donald Trump to George Washington but ok. I don't think George would run around yelling "YOU'RE FIRED!!!" to a bunch of D-list celebs if he were around today. 


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5hWWe-ts2s

    I like you, but if you're calling Meatloaf a D-lister we are gonna have a problem!   




     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5hWWe-ts2s

    I like you, but if you're calling Meatloaf a D-lister we are gonna have a problem!  



    One thing fo shizzle ...I may call Meatloaf a lot of things,, But I Won’t Do That........
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5hWWe-ts2s

    I like you, but if you're calling Meatloaf a D-lister we are gonna have a problem!  



    One thing fo shizzle ...I may call Meatloaf a lot of things,, But I Won’t Do That........
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    I'm not really sure I would compare Donald Trump to George Washington but ok. I don't think George would run around yelling "YOU'RE FIRED!!!" to a bunch of D-list celebs if he were around today. 
    I didn’t compare Donald Trump to George Washington - exactly. I just pointed out that there are similarities.

    Washington was born rich - was a successful businessman - and was appointed by patriots to lead the country.

    Trump was born rich - is a successful businessman - and was appointed by patriots to lead the country against the globalist and establishment crown.

    Gary Johnson is a weak, naive, beta male. Libertarianism will not work in the real world. I’ll use terrorism as an example...

    Gary Johnson’s philosophy is to ignore terrorism away. Just ignore and close your eyes to the issue - apologize and retreat - eventually the Islam problem will go away.

    Hussein Obama and Hillary’s philosophy is its Americas fault - Muslims are misunderstood victims - and terrorists just need hugs and a shoulder to cry on.

    Trump believes Islam is at fault and terrorists must be fought with an iron fist. He's the only one running for office that lives in reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    I'm not really sure I would compare Donald Trump to George Washington but ok. I don't think George would run around yelling "YOU'RE FIRED!!!" to a bunch of D-list celebs if he were around today. 
    I didn’t compare Donald Trump to George Washington - exactly. I just pointed out that there are similarities.

    Washington was born rich - was a successful businessman - and was appointed by patriots to lead the country.

    Trump was born rich - is a successful businessman - and was appointed by patriots to lead the country against the globalist and establishment crown.

    Gary Johnson is a weak, naive, beta male. Libertarianism will not work in the real world. I’ll use terrorism as an example...

    Gary Johnson’s philosophy is to ignore terrorism away. Just ignore and close your eyes to the issue - apologize and retreat - eventually the Islam problem will go away.

    Hussein Obama and Hillary’s philosophy is its Americas fault - Muslims are misunderstood victims - and terrorists just need hugs and a shoulder to cry on.

    Trump believes Islam is at fault and terrorists must be fought with an iron fist. He's the only one running for office that lives in reality.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    I'm not really sure I would compare Donald Trump to George Washington but ok. I don't think George would run around yelling "YOU'RE FIRED!!!" to a bunch of D-list celebs if he were around today. 

    Once George realized how much money he could make saying "you're fired", his first response would be "where do I sign?"

    Of course, HRC would not stoop to doing reality TV for money, she finds it easier to just sell out the U.S. to Middle Eastern countries for a sh!t-load of cash 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    I'm not really sure I would compare Donald Trump to George Washington but ok. I don't think George would run around yelling "YOU'RE FIRED!!!" to a bunch of D-list celebs if he were around today. 

    Once George realized how much money he could make saying "you're fired", his first response would be "where do I sign?"

    Of course, HRC would not stoop to doing reality TV for money, she finds it easier to just sell out the U.S. to Middle Eastern countries for a sh!t-load of cash 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    I think it would be easy to say that you get no response because there is no such thing as an intelligent trump lover. Seems like an oxymoron. 

    The reality is that there are probably informed and intelligent trump supporters and that they can't be as bad as what we often see on this site. 

    But the problem with these facts are than any intelligent person wouldn't argue against them.  So this rules out the intelligent trump supporter.  And the low information low education trump supporter is not smart enough to come up with an intellogent rebutal or be able to even conduct a civil dialog about trump and would resort to prescribed talking points about Hillary.

    Ipc  



    In the last week your 2 basic points, which you repeatedly beat like a rented mule, are;
    1) the powers that be on this site allow antagonistic posts, so they must condone them.
    2) you are being civil, yet the conservatives keep insulting you.

    In reading your post to which I am responding, can you see why conservatives attack you?

    No need to get defensive, as I am not attacking/insulting you. I am merely pointing out that which I perceive as being the truth 


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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    I think it would be easy to say that you get no response because there is no such thing as an intelligent trump lover. Seems like an oxymoron. 

    The reality is that there are probably informed and intelligent trump supporters and that they can't be as bad as what we often see on this site. 

    But the problem with these facts are than any intelligent person wouldn't argue against them.  So this rules out the intelligent trump supporter.  And the low information low education trump supporter is not smart enough to come up with an intellogent rebutal or be able to even conduct a civil dialog about trump and would resort to prescribed talking points about Hillary.

    Ipc  



    In the last week your 2 basic points, which you repeatedly beat like a rented mule, are;
    1) the powers that be on this site allow antagonistic posts, so they must condone them.
    2) you are being civil, yet the conservatives keep insulting you.

    In reading your post to which I am responding, can you see why conservatives attack you?

    No need to get defensive, as I am not attacking/insulting you. I am merely pointing out that which I perceive as being the truth 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Trump is working with black activists in Trump towers now.

    .....meaning what? 
    Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Trump is working with black activists in Trump towers now.

    .....meaning what? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:


    .....meaning what? 

    bigreds daddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:


    .....meaning what? 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2016 - 9:35 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by MACKY:

    I'm not a Republican or Democrat either...

    My question for you is... Do you think Mrs. Clinton better than Mr. Trump? Do you think the DNC transparency? 


     

    If I base Clintons actions as a political lifer and dealings with people, yes, she is as good as any political lifer who has served people across America. So, since Trump has only served himself, she is by far the best choice. Trump is not in this because he had a sudden epiphany you know.....remember, Hitler claimed he was in it for the people but he always had a radical agenda behind the scene as we know outlined in his book Mein Kempf which he spells it out for people in black and white. The fact that Trump is flipflopping should be a warning to everyone. Do I see Hillary with a wicked agenda, NO....and she is the best we have given the choices we have. If the Repubs would have put a likable and sensible candidate who truly wished to  assist America continue to strive in the 21st century, then I would have been in their camp but to regress and scare the world with a dictator-like and unprogressive platform like Trumps, no thank you.  
    Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MACKY:

    I'm not a Republican or Democrat either...

    My question for you is... Do you think Mrs. Clinton better than Mr. Trump? Do you think the DNC transparency? 


     

    If I base Clintons actions as a political lifer and dealings with people, yes, she is as good as any political lifer who has served people across America. So, since Trump has only served himself, she is by far the best choice. Trump is not in this because he had a sudden epiphany you know.....remember, Hitler claimed he was in it for the people but he always had a radical agenda behind the scene as we know outlined in his book Mein Kempf which he spells it out for people in black and white. The fact that Trump is flipflopping should be a warning to everyone. Do I see Hillary with a wicked agenda, NO....and she is the best we have given the choices we have. If the Repubs would have put a likable and sensible candidate who truly wished to  assist America continue to strive in the 21st century, then I would have been in their camp but to regress and scare the world with a dictator-like and unprogressive platform like Trumps, no thank you.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Trump was a democrat. So what. So was I. It's nauseating to admit that I was that stupid.

    You must be new to politics. What trump is doing is playing the game. There are republican loyalists, loyal to the establishment crown, that trump has to win over. By softening his positions, trump is trying to win the support of loyalist aristocrats.

    America should be allies with Putin. I might not agree with all of policies but that man is a true alpha. I respect that. I think Russia, France, Japan, Israel, South Korea, and the Philippines should be Americas biggest allies IMO. If that's evidence that trump is a lefty parading as republican, then what do you think it says about Hillary when she has ties to Muslim extremists, Saul Alinsky, the K-K-K, Iran, and Saudi Arabia?

    Trump is a true patriot to the core. He only ran for office because people had been pushing him to run for 30 years. Trump is playing the role of John Hancock and George Washington. Hancock because he was the money behind the American revolution. It takes millions to run for office. Washington because George didn't even want to be president. He was voted in by the patriots to lead.

    I'm likely older and wiser than you since I have been following politics closely since a young 7yr old in the 60's......and your first few sentences directed at me indicate you are immature, arrogant and definitely younger. 
    Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Trump was a democrat. So what. So was I. It's nauseating to admit that I was that stupid.

    You must be new to politics. What trump is doing is playing the game. There are republican loyalists, loyal to the establishment crown, that trump has to win over. By softening his positions, trump is trying to win the support of loyalist aristocrats.

    America should be allies with Putin. I might not agree with all of policies but that man is a true alpha. I respect that. I think Russia, France, Japan, Israel, South Korea, and the Philippines should be Americas biggest allies IMO. If that's evidence that trump is a lefty parading as republican, then what do you think it says about Hillary when she has ties to Muslim extremists, Saul Alinsky, the K-K-K, Iran, and Saudi Arabia?

    Trump is a true patriot to the core. He only ran for office because people had been pushing him to run for 30 years. Trump is playing the role of John Hancock and George Washington. Hancock because he was the money behind the American revolution. It takes millions to run for office. Washington because George didn't even want to be president. He was voted in by the patriots to lead.

    I'm likely older and wiser than you since I have been following politics closely since a young 7yr old in the 60's......and your first few sentences directed at me indicate you are immature, arrogant and definitely younger. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Trump was a democrat. So what. So was I. It's nauseating to admit that I was that stupid.

    You must be new to politics. What trump is doing is playing the game. There are republican loyalists, loyal to the establishment crown, that trump has to win over. By softening his positions, trump is trying to win the support of loyalist aristocrats.

    America should be allies with Putin. I might not agree with all of policies but that man is a true alpha. I respect that. I think Russia, France, Japan, Israel, South Korea, and the Philippines should be Americas biggest allies IMO. If that's evidence that trump is a lefty parading as republican, then what do you think it says about Hillary when she has ties to Muslim extremists, Saul Alinsky, the K-K-K, Iran, and Saudi Arabia?

    Trump is a true patriot to the core. He only ran for office because people had been pushing him to run for 30 years. Trump is playing the role of John Hancock and George Washington. Hancock because he was the money behind the American revolution. It takes millions to run for office. Washington because George didn't even want to be president. He was voted in by the patriots to lead.

    The highlighted line above is laughable....Reagan is rolling in his grave and if you truly are a Republican, and not a communist as evidence by the admittance in the paragraph above, you will wash your mouth out and go see a doctor. A true patriot does not cavort or help the enemy of the state as Donald Trump has, nor does he let his daughter be best friends with his political opponent (yes, Chelsea Clinton) and let her cavort with Putins girlfriend setting up future relations, giving secrets, etc. Your American roots are European as a patriot, not Russian. And Putin wishes to mess up Europe and counter American interests in the middle East  but you have blinders on to recognize this because you think being patriotic is spitting on different people and carrying a gun. Lincoln is rolling in his grave right now looking at you and clapping at me since I was a former Republican but the Bush years truly lost me and showed me that they were in it to help America become a 'lightweight' just like Trump is gonna do if elected......so if you are a Patriot, the only alternative is electing someone who can steer the ship and let citizens determine how America will become great....unless of course you are advocating for a more communist or fascist govt system to come to America with you declaration of admiration for some of the countries you mentioned?
    Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Trump was a democrat. So what. So was I. It's nauseating to admit that I was that stupid.

    You must be new to politics. What trump is doing is playing the game. There are republican loyalists, loyal to the establishment crown, that trump has to win over. By softening his positions, trump is trying to win the support of loyalist aristocrats.

    America should be allies with Putin. I might not agree with all of policies but that man is a true alpha. I respect that. I think Russia, France, Japan, Israel, South Korea, and the Philippines should be Americas biggest allies IMO. If that's evidence that trump is a lefty parading as republican, then what do you think it says about Hillary when she has ties to Muslim extremists, Saul Alinsky, the K-K-K, Iran, and Saudi Arabia?

    Trump is a true patriot to the core. He only ran for office because people had been pushing him to run for 30 years. Trump is playing the role of John Hancock and George Washington. Hancock because he was the money behind the American revolution. It takes millions to run for office. Washington because George didn't even want to be president. He was voted in by the patriots to lead.

    The highlighted line above is laughable....Reagan is rolling in his grave and if you truly are a Republican, and not a communist as evidence by the admittance in the paragraph above, you will wash your mouth out and go see a doctor. A true patriot does not cavort or help the enemy of the state as Donald Trump has, nor does he let his daughter be best friends with his political opponent (yes, Chelsea Clinton) and let her cavort with Putins girlfriend setting up future relations, giving secrets, etc. Your American roots are European as a patriot, not Russian. And Putin wishes to mess up Europe and counter American interests in the middle East  but you have blinders on to recognize this because you think being patriotic is spitting on different people and carrying a gun. Lincoln is rolling in his grave right now looking at you and clapping at me since I was a former Republican but the Bush years truly lost me and showed me that they were in it to help America become a 'lightweight' just like Trump is gonna do if elected......so if you are a Patriot, the only alternative is electing someone who can steer the ship and let citizens determine how America will become great....unless of course you are advocating for a more communist or fascist govt system to come to America with you declaration of admiration for some of the countries you mentioned?
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:


    If I base Clintons actions as a political lifer and dealings with people, yes, she is as good as any political lifer who has served people across America. 

    So you took an objective look at HRC's actions, and came to the conclusion she is "good"

    Wow.

    What about all the money that poured into her foundation as a result of "pay for play"?

    I could go on and on and on and on, but I will simply end any potential discourse with you by saying, we will agree to disagree 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:


    If I base Clintons actions as a political lifer and dealings with people, yes, she is as good as any political lifer who has served people across America. 

    So you took an objective look at HRC's actions, and came to the conclusion she is "good"

    Wow.

    What about all the money that poured into her foundation as a result of "pay for play"?

    I could go on and on and on and on, but I will simply end any potential discourse with you by saying, we will agree to disagree 
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