@BigGame90
So its just Biden that is dirty huh, not the Trump stuff or the fact that the Bush family made a trunk load of cash from the Saudis and he let them off the hook for 9/11 right?'
Come on you cant be so foolishly partisan to make the comments you do. Both parties and most all politicians are paid off slimeballs from other governments or corps via lobbyists and speaking gigs..this partisan stuff is moronic and insulting to society.
@wallstreetcappers
Are you forgetting , what about Hillary? Trump had four good years to have her investigated and put in jail, which is something he announced he was going to do during his campaign. I guess he was busy building that wall that Mexico paid for?
I know that kind of logic just bounces off of a Trump supporter but at some point they really should start asking themselves why Clinton and Biden and etc. are so good at committing crimes and flawlessly getting away with them while the only thing Trump is good at is getting caught.
Exact same thing can be said about the right. Why does the right hate when the left questions them? Do you recall questions about Kushner and Ivanka's dealings during and after serving the Trump administration ? Why the sole focus on Hunter who never served as an advisor for Joe or the government in any capacity? Why not this same energy for shady Kushner and Ivanka dealings? See, this Hunter obsession is very disingenuous because you do not care about corruption from last administration, which seems to be even more blatant. 
@wallstreetcappers
Stay on topic with the thread WSC.
Also, you can say the same to many other posters here who support the left, but you don't. You actively ban those who post in support for the right, but very rarely ban those form the left. YOU should be more neutral as a moderator. Be like Sweden
@BigGame90
Ive made comments to both sides and regularly do so, and how would you know who was banned or boxed? You have zero idea but your partisan blinders makes everything left vs right, it is moronic and erroneous.
@joe pockets
Hilary is one of the worst ever, she is part of the problem and the fact she even was in the picture shows what is wrong with politics. Bush, Biden, Hilary all are louses and all are guilty. I think out of all those three she is the most dark and devious and guilty. I did not mean Bush I because he is on the top of that list, that guy was likely the most complicit awful politicians in my lifetime.
What? If you have or run a legitimate business, it means that you cannot engage in corruption? What a clueless worldview. 
You do not think legitimate U.S. and global corporations have ever engaged in corruption or fraud? What rock do you live under?
There are also some questions as to whether Ivanka or Jared have run "legitimate businesses" so bringing that up does not help your argument.
The article I pasted in #474 noted how the Saudi Panel that screens investments for the Saudi sovereign wealth fund cited concerns about the merits and legitimacy of the proposed deal with Kushner, but the Saudi Crown Prince overruled them (Because of relationship with Trump).
Your concerns with legitimacy also are clearly disingenuous at best. Your response is clearly partisan and shows biased ignorance on the matters of corruption and fraud.
For the record, I am not defending Hunter Biden as I have said he is a moron countless times, and was clearly trying to advantage himself with his name. But to act like same $hit, but far worse did not occur under last administration is simply pure ignorance.
You love to take everything out of context to fit your narrative and create a spin. You would do well on the left.
If Ivanka and Jarred ran legitimate businesses (did they pay their taxes, was it a tangible business, did they produce anything?), how can you say the money they made IS corruption or fraud? I never said the money they made wasn't corruption or fraud, it very well could be. So prove it. I did do some quick searches and around 2017-2020 a lot of articles like to use "shady" "took" (instead of made) and other words that would make you believe there was wrong doing. I'm sure I can find plenty more that have 0 evidence but the words they use spin the view point. Something the left and MSM do very well. Will give them credit there. They are very good about fooling people. Drink up suckers.
You know when you can make the assumption that it's corruption and fraud like you tried to do with Jarred and Ivanka? When the person doesn't even run a damn business! Or was his business really just acquiring bribes so the big guy could make things happen when elected POTUS?! Let me know when it's proven that they were paid off for corruption and fraud.
Did the Trumps over value their assets and liabilities to gain more funding? Possibly, most likely they did to acquire larger loans. You know who's fault it was for not checking those assets and liabilities to ensure they were true? The damn banks that gave them excesses funding! Do you remember NINJA loans? Same BS but on a smaller individual scale. NOBODY WAS CHECKING, and it's only coming to light when shit hits the fan and you have to back track to find out what really went wrong. Do you think banks are still marking assets and liabilities correctly and truthfully, not only for Trump? They are doing this for EVERYONE. That is the real issue. But let's keep everyone fighting between Trump and the Bidens. Banks desperately need to lend. The moto is "just get the deal done today, worry about the consequences tomorrow". Banks screw up, citizens end up footing the bill through bail outs. Same shit is happening now, but everyone is worried about Trump. Blinded by the light.
@BigGame90
It's funny because everything you say about prove it has not been PROVEN in terms of Joe Biden being involved with Hunter Biden, yet you are obsessed with peddling the story that Joe is behind it. So Hunter didn't pay taxes for two years or filed late. Who cares? He never claimed to run his own business did he? So your argument about running a business is moot, not relevant to his case. Was he unqualified to hold a position he held at a foreign company? Sure. But again, who cares, happens all of the time. He is a moron. Maybe Joe was involved and behind it, but like you said PROVE it right?
So according to your logic, it's only corruption and fraud if someone comes out and says "hey I'm committing fraud" or someone in the media proves it or someone gets charged? Well guess what Joe Biden has not been charged or proven to be linked from your view. So no corruption from Joe right? So Joe lied? Big deal, you never cared about lies before.
You are gullible and so partisan that you cannot even see that your arguments are absurd and illogical. If you cannot connect the dots on Jared and Ivanka's business deals and moves right before, during, and after serving in the administration and see corruption and fraud, you are a lost, clueless, soul truly incapable of critical thinking. But hey it hasn't been proven yet right, or they haven't been charged yet, so nothing to see right? From that perspective, Bernie Madoff was never committing fraud for all of those years, until it was proven right? Enron too? Not fraud or corruption until you get caught right? Seriously, who actually thinks like this? You are so blinded by your politics that it is actually sickening.
Speaking of corruption see J. Kushner. I suppose nothing to see here for Republicans.
Six months after leaving the White House, Jared Kushner secured a $2 billion investment from a fund led by the Saudi crown prince, a close ally during the Trump administration, despite objections from the fund’s advisers about the merits of the deal.
A panel that screens investments for the main Saudi sovereign wealth fund cited concerns about the proposed deal with Mr. Kushner’s newly formed private equity firm, Affinity Partners, previously undisclosed documents show.
Those objections included: “the inexperience of the Affinity Fund management”; the possibility that the kingdom would be responsible for “the bulk of the investment and risk”; due diligence on the fledgling firm’s operations that found them “unsatisfactory in all aspects”; a proposed asset management fee that “seems excessive”; and “public relations risks” from Mr. Kushner’s prior role as a senior adviser to his father-in-law, former President Donald J. Trump, according to minutes of the panel’s meeting last June 30.
But days later the full board of the $620 billion Public Investment Fund — led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, Saudi Arabia’s de facto ruler and a beneficiary of Mr. Kushner’s support when he worked as a White House adviser — overruled the panel.
Mr. Kushner played a leading role inside the Trump administration defending Crown Prince Mohammed after U.S. intelligence agencies concluded that he had approved the 2018 killing and dismemberment of Jamal Khashoggi, a Saudi columnist for The Washington Post and resident of Virginia who had criticized the kingdom’s rulers.
The Saudi fund agreed to invest twice as much and on more generous terms with Mr. Kushner than it did at about the same time with former Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin — who was also starting a new fund — even though Mr. Mnuchin had a record as a successful investor before entering government, the documents show. The amount of the investment in his firm, Liberty Strategic Capital — $1 billion — has not been previously disclosed.
A spokesman for Mr. Kushner’s firm said of its relationship with the Saudi Public Investment Fund, “Affinity, like many other top investment firms, is proud to have PIF and other leading organizations that have careful screening criteria, as investors.” A spokesman for the Saudi fund declined to comment on its investment process.
Those documents and other filings indicate that at this point Mr. Kushner’s venture depends primarily on the Saudi money.
Mr. Kushner planned to raise up to $7 billion in all, according to a document prepared last summer for the Saudi fund’s board. But so far he appears to have signed up few other major investors.
In its most recent public filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, dated March 31, Mr. Kushner’s firm reported that its main fund had $2.5 billion under management, almost entirely from investors based overseas. Most of that appears to be the $2 billion from Saudi Arabia.
The Saudi documents say that in return for its investment, the Saudi fund would receive a stake of at least 28 percent in Mr. Kushner’s main investment vehicle.
None of this is fishy or smells of corruption or buying influence at all does it?? Hmmm.
This Biden v Trump stuff is pretty stupid, both are guilty neither is better than the other. I have to say it is a strong fact that if Trump hadnt stolen the election the kiddies would not have reaped the rewards, not sure how that is even up for discussion. Same goes for Hunter/Joe, without Biden being a lifer sponge crooked politician his kid does not have the life he does...that is not up for discussion.
Pretty much. That is my main point is that there is a high degree of corruption and nepotism running rampant in both families. However, it is shocking to me to see the hardline Trumpers just outright refusing to believe anything corrupt or shady went on with his kids serving as "advisors" in the last administration while running for profit businesses, especially with an overwhelming amount of evidence of such.
@BigGame90
you really want to compare the hunter biden stuff to the crimes trump has committed? My God man wake the hell up, the guy tried to over throw our govt so he could stay in power, even after his own people told him over and over again he lost. Like i said before, vote repub lican all you want, just dont back this piece of crap who has been a crook and con artist his entire life. why do all you supporters love this 1 person so much? its really quite sick to see.
@cd329
both are crimes, both are using political influence to gain financial advantage, I do not see any difference and in fact its strong odds that Biden has been greasing the wheels for his druggie kid for longer than Trump was ever interested in politics.
You cant point a finger when it serves a partisan purpose and ignore it when you do not like the narrative.
@THEMUGG
Its too bad, there have been several unifying politicians but the general population carries too many biases and then the good ones will get taken out by corporate interests or the CIA. If you think about it the unifying presidents could not unify a public who are not interested.
I think Kennedy stole his election due to his dad and the scheming his family did, he was a unifier but too dangerous for the war-mongering CIA and Georgie Bush I, Carter was a unifier but similarly got taken down by that fake CIA Iran hostage joke, he was too kind and got blamed for things which had nothing to do with him or his position. Clinton was a moderate unifier and yet the partisan GOP sought to take him down when he took the hammer to the military. Obama was a unifier and yet the GOP again sought to discredit his birth cert which is a joke and white people still have issues with a woman president or a non-white president.
There is no chance to unify a biased, racist, partisan population who feeds off social media attention and division. The only reason why a guy like Trump ever could get in is because the strength of partisan hate is very powerful that even a cheating, selfish, disgusting loudmouth resonates with enough people to get a shot..its embarrassing.
your 100 percent right, a crime is a crime and both should be investigated and held accountable. My point was trumps crimes are a little more serious, since he wanted to change our whole democracy. But i agree a crime is a crime. Bidens kid shouldnt get any special breaks, but truth is if trump was in office and one of his kids got in trouble he would be doing the same thing.
You should have mentioned trumps druggie son also, causes he so coked up in videos a blind man could see it.
Personally biden should not run again, too many unanswered questions. They still got to show the proof about the bidens, which most of their witnesses have bombed out and then they spin it how they want it. Bottomline their all crooks all the way down to your local politicians. term limits is the only way to stop alot of the corruption but that will never happen.
Any intelligent human would conclude Trump held a protest to question the legitimacy of the 2020 election. And millions of people agreed with him. Thousands showed up and several hundred got out of control. To say a protest crowd could overthrow our government is about as ridiculous as saying a man with penis and scrutom is now a woman and can play women sports. And here we are.
And I do not love Trump. Guy is ego driven, childish mouth exagerator. Yet he is better than anything else out there. Now doesn't that speak volumes for our political system.
John Edwards paid off a mistress and got away with it. Hilliary smashed evidence, her server and cell phones, and the director of the FBI said we "can't charge her". Yet here they are piling it on Trump. And I mean piling it on. Have never in my lifetime seen such misuse of our justice system. Wouldn't say it so graphically myself but DeSantis is right, throats need to be slashed.
Trump called Zelensky on July 25th and released the funds 47 days later. By government standards hardly a delay.
There is no chance to unify a biased, racist, criminal partisan population who feeds off social media attention and division. The only reason why a guy like Biden ever could get in is because the strength of partisan hate is very powerful that even a cheating, twisting the justice system, selfish, selling yourself to the highest bidder liar with gets a shot..its embarrassing.
@DeezyAZ81
IF, Hunter Biden was given money to invest, actually worked, used his brain, and received a commission, I would have no problem with it. Some people have "connections" and some don't. Heard the Russians have poured over $100 million into firms Hunter was a part of. They invested in real estate. Ok, so what, other than they were Russian.
It's when the Chinese just give him $5 million. And then the money flows through several chutes before coming out the other side into family bank accounts. It's 10% for the big guy, it's, as Archer put it, selling "the brand"! Archer showed actual tangible efforts for getting paid by Burisma. He did WORK to earn his funds. I don't see any tangible work by Hunter. He was "selling the brand". And daddy called often to just say hello while in business meetings. That's selling the brand.
Cd329 is right. Ludicrous to suggest allegations against Hunter are equivalent to those against Trump. But unable to defend Trump, republicans are determined to find dirt on Hunter even after a Trump appointed attorney and grand jury could not find serious wrongdoing in 5-years investigation. Without solid proof, House republicans allege Bidens are involved in shady business deals. In contrast, January 6 house committee is more professional and transparent in investigation that successfully lead to justice department indictments of Trump.
@thirdperson
They wouldn't even allow Republicans chosen to be on the committee. They hired a Hollywood producer to sell their nonsense. In not one instance did they show both sides of the facts. They falsey showed Hawley running from Congress when he was the last one out. They never showed Trump saying "march peacefully to the Capitol", they never showed the Chewbaca man mental case idiot being escorted up and down the halls.
So typical of this political party. Pelosi said she was "One with the mob" when protestors pushed into the Wisconsin Capitol building in 2011 causing millions in damages, chasing Senators out to a bus they pelted with rocks, and injuring police. "Democracy in Action" were Pelosi's words describing the violence.
THERE'S A PHRASE FOR THESE ACTIONS; TWO FACED.
Your post is beyond comical. Trump holds a protest over him losing the election that he knew he lost and was told by tons of people that he lost. Come on dude, stop the bs. The guy was trying to stay in power.
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