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    fish1982
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2011 - 6:39 PM ET #1

    which is easier to make money at?
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    which is easier to make money at?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2011 - 6:43 PM ET #2

    Poker, and its not even close

     

    the fact you even have to ask shows you probably shouldnt be doing either

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    Poker, and its not even close

     

    the fact you even have to ask shows you probably shouldnt be doing either

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2011 - 6:50 PM ET #3

    then why do people sports bet
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2011 - 6:53 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:

    then why do people sports bet

     

    Are you seriously asking this?

     

    Why do people play the lottery? Why do people play blackjack, craps, roulette?

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    then why do people sports bet

     

    Are you seriously asking this?

     

    Why do people play the lottery? Why do people play blackjack, craps, roulette?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2011 - 6:54 PM ET #5

    how much did you make in poker last year?
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2011 - 7:00 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by IPartyALOT:

    Poker, and its not even close

     

    the fact you even have to ask shows you probably shouldnt be doing either


    Agreed! 
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    Poker, and its not even close

     

    the fact you even have to ask shows you probably shouldnt be doing either


    Agreed! 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2011 - 7:20 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:

    how much did you make in poker last year?

     

    about $30,000 in 2010

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    how much did you make in poker last year?

     

    about $30,000 in 2010

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2011 - 7:41 PM ET #8

    how long did it take you to learn to be at that level
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2011 - 7:49 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:

    how long did it take you to learn to be at that level

     

    well I guess probably a few years. I started playing online around 2003 like most people. I basically donked around not taking it too seriously until about 2005.  Then I started really studying the game and blah blah blah and since 2006 Ive been winning steadily.

     

    Theres just so many nuances and things that happen in the game that most recreational players just cant grasp/understand, as soon as something bad happens to them they just blame luck or the site. People are too results oriented, if they lost a hand they think they misplayed and if they won a hand they think they made the right move, when so many times that not the case.

     

    I rambled a little there but reading this board and the common poker opinions on here, especially about online, its no wonder there are a lot of losing players

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    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:

    how long did it take you to learn to be at that level

     

    well I guess probably a few years. I started playing online around 2003 like most people. I basically donked around not taking it too seriously until about 2005.  Then I started really studying the game and blah blah blah and since 2006 Ive been winning steadily.

     

    Theres just so many nuances and things that happen in the game that most recreational players just cant grasp/understand, as soon as something bad happens to them they just blame luck or the site. People are too results oriented, if they lost a hand they think they misplayed and if they won a hand they think they made the right move, when so many times that not the case.

     

    I rambled a little there but reading this board and the common poker opinions on here, especially about online, its no wonder there are a lot of losing players

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2011 - 8:25 PM ET #10

    can you recommend some good poker learning books or web sites or other learning material
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2011 - 8:46 PM ET #11

    Absolutely, I dont know how much experience you have but none of these books could hurt. Also online training sites are a great way to learn also but after black friday Im not sure how much of an option any online poker is gonna be.

     

    Anyways, heres a few books Ive read that will surely help. Some of it may be repetitive and basic but I guarantee you will pick up some things from each book that will help your game.

     

    The Thoery of Poker by David Sklansky - This book is a good starting place because it really lays out the basic formula and goal when playing a poker hand. It teaches you that the decision is the important part, not the result

     

    Super System by Doyle - this book is a little outdated but its the first real poker book of its time and if you plan on taking poker seriously you should at least read it once

     

    SNG strategy by Colin Moshman - This book is great for a beginning SNG player

     

     

    Theres obvioulsy lots more than that but thats a good starting point. Theres no doubt if you read those three books youd not only do better at the tables, but also be much more confident at the tables which obv will lead to even better results

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    Absolutely, I dont know how much experience you have but none of these books could hurt. Also online training sites are a great way to learn also but after black friday Im not sure how much of an option any online poker is gonna be.

     

    Anyways, heres a few books Ive read that will surely help. Some of it may be repetitive and basic but I guarantee you will pick up some things from each book that will help your game.

     

    The Thoery of Poker by David Sklansky - This book is a good starting place because it really lays out the basic formula and goal when playing a poker hand. It teaches you that the decision is the important part, not the result

     

    Super System by Doyle - this book is a little outdated but its the first real poker book of its time and if you plan on taking poker seriously you should at least read it once

     

    SNG strategy by Colin Moshman - This book is great for a beginning SNG player

     

     

    Theres obvioulsy lots more than that but thats a good starting point. Theres no doubt if you read those three books youd not only do better at the tables, but also be much more confident at the tables which obv will lead to even better results

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2011 - 8:52 PM ET #12

    theres an e-bbok out called "the poker blueprint" which is an EXCELLENT starting point but its basically all an online book so it may not be that valuable with todays online situation
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    theres an e-bbok out called "the poker blueprint" which is an EXCELLENT starting point but its basically all an online book so it may not be that valuable with todays online situation
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2011 - 12:30 AM ET #13

    can't you switch to bodog.com?
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2011 - 1:10 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:

    can't you switch to bodog.com?

     

    yeah im gonna try that, but its like a ghost town over there compared to tilt and stars. Im gonna get accounts at bodog, already got a cake account, and we'll see what else. This all fucking sucks tho

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    can't you switch to bodog.com?

     

    yeah im gonna try that, but its like a ghost town over there compared to tilt and stars. Im gonna get accounts at bodog, already got a cake account, and we'll see what else. This all fucking sucks tho

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2011 - 2:04 PM ET #15

    did you lose a lot of money in the sites that shut down?
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2011 - 2:14 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:

    did you lose a lot of money in the sites that shut down?

     

    nah, nothing compared to most guys. I had $2300 on tilt and its till there, I can look at it!!!! Seriously tho, I'll get it someday, but it literally may be a year. Fulltilt isnt gonna ruin their rep with the rest of the world over our bankrolls. Most of the people who are screaming "your $ is gone!!!" really just dont know what theyre talking about

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    did you lose a lot of money in the sites that shut down?

     

    nah, nothing compared to most guys. I had $2300 on tilt and its till there, I can look at it!!!! Seriously tho, I'll get it someday, but it literally may be a year. Fulltilt isnt gonna ruin their rep with the rest of the world over our bankrolls. Most of the people who are screaming "your $ is gone!!!" really just dont know what theyre talking about

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 12:43 PM ET #17

    hmmmmmmmmmmmm two differnet types of gambling !

    POKER you have control  of what hands YOU play and can tell when you have winner lock hand

    SPORTS you have no control over what happens in any game

    any one player can totally kill you by going off against other players or spouting off dissing the other team before game starts or during the game !

    THERFORE with these facts proven i'd have to Say with a solid bankroll behind YOU $50 thou minimum to sustain losing streaks that POKER is easier to make money with !

    AT laest i seen with my friends when playing reg cash games not tournaments 7 card stud and holdem  the higher limits win more days than they lose !

    ME i'm grreen  at poker still learning the game strategy i have learned one thing stay away from lucky players they will suck out on your monster starting hands every time and destroy your stack

    However being a lady has it's advantages when i'm showing clevage and bare  mid section

    I have learned to pick up on tells from low limit players very good i can tell when they are stone bluffing or when they start a monster hand as in trips in 1st three cards like maybe 9's or 7's

    and the others in hand do the raising for them with the big high cards showing aces kings queens jacks

    many times i folded pocket 10's or Higher  when catching these players betting quietly just calling not to draw attention to thier hands !

     

     

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    hmmmmmmmmmmmm two differnet types of gambling !

    POKER you have control  of what hands YOU play and can tell when you have winner lock hand

    SPORTS you have no control over what happens in any game

    any one player can totally kill you by going off against other players or spouting off dissing the other team before game starts or during the game !

    THERFORE with these facts proven i'd have to Say with a solid bankroll behind YOU $50 thou minimum to sustain losing streaks that POKER is easier to make money with !

    AT laest i seen with my friends when playing reg cash games not tournaments 7 card stud and holdem  the higher limits win more days than they lose !

    ME i'm grreen  at poker still learning the game strategy i have learned one thing stay away from lucky players they will suck out on your monster starting hands every time and destroy your stack

    However being a lady has it's advantages when i'm showing clevage and bare  mid section

    I have learned to pick up on tells from low limit players very good i can tell when they are stone bluffing or when they start a monster hand as in trips in 1st three cards like maybe 9's or 7's

    and the others in hand do the raising for them with the big high cards showing aces kings queens jacks

    many times i folded pocket 10's or Higher  when catching these players betting quietly just calling not to draw attention to thier hands !

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 1:31 PM ET #18

    iparty,

    how many hours per day did you play on average?
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 1:32 PM ET #19

    dawn, is that you in your avatar?
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 1:42 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by dawniewags:

    hmmmmmmmmmmmm two differnet types of gambling !

    POKER you have control  of what hands YOU play and can tell when you have winner lock hand

    SPORTS you have no control over what happens in any game

    any one player can totally kill you by going off against other players or spouting off dissing the other team before game starts or during the game !

    THERFORE with these facts proven i'd have to Say with a solid bankroll behind YOU $50 thou minimum to sustain losing streaks that POKER is easier to make money with !

    AT laest i seen with my friends when playing reg cash games not tournaments 7 card stud and holdem  the higher limits win more days than they lose !

    ME i'm grreen  at poker still learning the game strategy i have learned one thing stay away from lucky players they will suck out on your monster starting hands every time and destroy your stack

    However being a lady has it's advantages when i'm showing clevage and bare  mid section

    I have learned to pick up on tells from low limit players very good i can tell when they are stone bluffing or when they start a monster hand as in trips in 1st three cards like maybe 9's or 7's

    and the others in hand do the raising for them with the big high cards showing aces kings queens jacks

    many times i folded pocket 10's or Higher  when catching these players betting quietly just calling not to draw attention to thier hands !

     

     

     

    Another fuckin clown tryin to act like a hot chick on the boards, gimem a break

     

    Give it a rest and stop spamming the boards tryin to get people to sign up for your site and stop tryin to bullshit the beginners with your lame stories

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawniewags:

    hmmmmmmmmmmmm two differnet types of gambling !

    POKER you have control  of what hands YOU play and can tell when you have winner lock hand

    SPORTS you have no control over what happens in any game

    any one player can totally kill you by going off against other players or spouting off dissing the other team before game starts or during the game !

    THERFORE with these facts proven i'd have to Say with a solid bankroll behind YOU $50 thou minimum to sustain losing streaks that POKER is easier to make money with !

    AT laest i seen with my friends when playing reg cash games not tournaments 7 card stud and holdem  the higher limits win more days than they lose !

    ME i'm grreen  at poker still learning the game strategy i have learned one thing stay away from lucky players they will suck out on your monster starting hands every time and destroy your stack

    However being a lady has it's advantages when i'm showing clevage and bare  mid section

    I have learned to pick up on tells from low limit players very good i can tell when they are stone bluffing or when they start a monster hand as in trips in 1st three cards like maybe 9's or 7's

    and the others in hand do the raising for them with the big high cards showing aces kings queens jacks

    many times i folded pocket 10's or Higher  when catching these players betting quietly just calling not to draw attention to thier hands !

     

     

     

    Another fuckin clown tryin to act like a hot chick on the boards, gimem a break

     

    Give it a rest and stop spamming the boards tryin to get people to sign up for your site and stop tryin to bullshit the beginners with your lame stories

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 1:43 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:

    dawn, is that you in your avatar?

     

    Theres noone that looks like that posting on Covers board

     

    Check his other posts, hes just a spammer for a monthly-fee poker website, hes all bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:

    dawn, is that you in your avatar?

     

    Theres noone that looks like that posting on Covers board

     

    Check his other posts, hes just a spammer for a monthly-fee poker website, hes all bullshit

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 1:58 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by dawniewags:

    hmmmmmmmmmmmm two differnet types of gambling !

    POKER you have control  of what hands YOU play and can tell when you have winner lock hand

    SPORTS you have no control over what happens in any game

    any one player can totally kill you by going off against other players or spouting off dissing the other team before game starts or during the game !

    THERFORE with these facts proven i'd have to Say with a solid bankroll behind YOU $50 thou minimum to sustain losing streaks that POKER is easier to make money with !

    AT laest i seen with my friends when playing reg cash games not tournaments 7 card stud and holdem  the higher limits win more days than they lose !

    ME i'm grreen  at poker still learning the game strategy i have learned one thing stay away from lucky players they will suck out on your monster starting hands every time and destroy your stack

    However being a lady has it's advantages when i'm showing clevage and bare  mid section

    I have learned to pick up on tells from low limit players very good i can tell when they are stone bluffing or when they start a monster hand as in trips in 1st three cards like maybe 9's or 7's

    and the others in hand do the raising for them with the big high cards showing aces kings queens jacks

    many times i folded pocket 10's or Higher  when catching these players betting quietly just calling not to draw attention to thier hands !

     

     

     

    Hadt o quote this again for the hilarity

     

    My favorite part is how you need a "solid bankroll behind you, like $50" or how he "picks up tells on low limit players knowing if they have rolled up 9s or 7s"

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawniewags:

    hmmmmmmmmmmmm two differnet types of gambling !

    POKER you have control  of what hands YOU play and can tell when you have winner lock hand

    SPORTS you have no control over what happens in any game

    any one player can totally kill you by going off against other players or spouting off dissing the other team before game starts or during the game !

    THERFORE with these facts proven i'd have to Say with a solid bankroll behind YOU $50 thou minimum to sustain losing streaks that POKER is easier to make money with !

    AT laest i seen with my friends when playing reg cash games not tournaments 7 card stud and holdem  the higher limits win more days than they lose !

    ME i'm grreen  at poker still learning the game strategy i have learned one thing stay away from lucky players they will suck out on your monster starting hands every time and destroy your stack

    However being a lady has it's advantages when i'm showing clevage and bare  mid section

    I have learned to pick up on tells from low limit players very good i can tell when they are stone bluffing or when they start a monster hand as in trips in 1st three cards like maybe 9's or 7's

    and the others in hand do the raising for them with the big high cards showing aces kings queens jacks

    many times i folded pocket 10's or Higher  when catching these players betting quietly just calling not to draw attention to thier hands !

     

     

     

    Hadt o quote this again for the hilarity

     

    My favorite part is how you need a "solid bankroll behind you, like $50" or how he "picks up tells on low limit players knowing if they have rolled up 9s or 7s"

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 2:32 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by dawniewags:

    ME i'm grreen  at poker still learning the game strategy i have learned one thing stay away from lucky players they will suck out on your monster starting hands every time and destroy your stack

     

    Another gem here

     

    So fold AA preflop if youre up against one of these "lucky players" cuz theyll surely suck out on your monster "every time"

     

    More donkish words have never been spoken

     

    Up there with "my aces always lose" and "everyone always hits their draws on me"

     

    A clueless donk giving advice, just ridiculous, and theres always the lying and spamming too!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawniewags:

    ME i'm grreen  at poker still learning the game strategy i have learned one thing stay away from lucky players they will suck out on your monster starting hands every time and destroy your stack

     

    Another gem here

     

    So fold AA preflop if youre up against one of these "lucky players" cuz theyll surely suck out on your monster "every time"

     

    More donkish words have never been spoken

     

    Up there with "my aces always lose" and "everyone always hits their draws on me"

     

    A clueless donk giving advice, just ridiculous, and theres always the lying and spamming too!!!

     
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    This is like asking what's easier, bowling or golf?  Or being a lswyer vs. doctor?  It's personal preference and talent.  For more people, poker is probably easier.  Personally, I find sports betting to be easier.  But that's just me.  There are so many factors, too numerous to go into detail.  But to be honest, and no offense intended, if you have to ask, you probably can't win at either.
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    This is like asking what's easier, bowling or golf?  Or being a lswyer vs. doctor?  It's personal preference and talent.  For more people, poker is probably easier.  Personally, I find sports betting to be easier.  But that's just me.  There are so many factors, too numerous to go into detail.  But to be honest, and no offense intended, if you have to ask, you probably can't win at either.
     
     
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    poker ,but i do both full time usually when im crushing one, im tilting in the other so far since super bowl this year, im a fucking big loser in sports, and a steady winner in poker, the thing is im putting way more time into studying sports watching games grinding out halftime plays, and im losing! it sucks ,why do i keep going at it, i love to compete,and i know im on a downsing and its a matter of time before my tsunami run on sports wipes away this years debt and puts me in the green.with that said im sitting here in boxers sweating laker game,thinking about going to a poker room but after watching sports and smoking dope all day ,i dont feel my sharpest,for me i try to stay away from poker when im not very fresh, it can make a world of difference,now if i go to bed sleep ,wake up ,put a good workout in and eat well,i KNOW ill make better, smarter decisions
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    poker ,but i do both full time usually when im crushing one, im tilting in the other so far since super bowl this year, im a fucking big loser in sports, and a steady winner in poker, the thing is im putting way more time into studying sports watching games grinding out halftime plays, and im losing! it sucks ,why do i keep going at it, i love to compete,and i know im on a downsing and its a matter of time before my tsunami run on sports wipes away this years debt and puts me in the green.with that said im sitting here in boxers sweating laker game,thinking about going to a poker room but after watching sports and smoking dope all day ,i dont feel my sharpest,for me i try to stay away from poker when im not very fresh, it can make a world of difference,now if i go to bed sleep ,wake up ,put a good workout in and eat well,i KNOW ill make better, smarter decisions
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