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    Poker vs. sports betting

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    Iw1nBets
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2011 - 3:33 PM ET #26

    VaughnK for president
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    VaughnK for president
     
    Iw1nBets
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2011 - 6:36 AM ET #27

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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2011 - 6:33 PM ET #28

    There is one truth about both endeavors........play too many hands and you are a loser......play too many games and you are a loser...........
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    There is one truth about both endeavors........play too many hands and you are a loser......play too many games and you are a loser...........
     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2011 - 8:59 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by IPartyALOT:

    Poker, and its not even close

     

    the fact you even have to ask shows you probably shouldnt be doing either



    The poker affiliate/shill has spoken! Listen to NOTHING chancep/electricladyland has to say!
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPartyALOT:

    Poker, and its not even close

     

    the fact you even have to ask shows you probably shouldnt be doing either



    The poker affiliate/shill has spoken! Listen to NOTHING chancep/electricladyland has to say!
     
    fish1982
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2011 - 10:09 PM ET #30

    Do people become good at poker because they learn how to read other players (tendencies, expressions, mannerisms) or because they count cards?  Secondly, if it is either of these things then aren't they both eliminated when playing online because you can't see your opponent and the computer randomly generates a card and it doesn't matter which ones came before it?  I know they are probably rookie questions, but I would appreciate a genuine response.
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    Do people become good at poker because they learn how to read other players (tendencies, expressions, mannerisms) or because they count cards?  Secondly, if it is either of these things then aren't they both eliminated when playing online because you can't see your opponent and the computer randomly generates a card and it doesn't matter which ones came before it?  I know they are probably rookie questions, but I would appreciate a genuine response.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2011 - 11:47 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:

    Do people become good at poker because they learn how to read other players (tendencies, expressions, mannerisms) or because they count cards?  Secondly, if it is either of these things then aren't they both eliminated when playing online because you can't see your opponent and the computer randomly generates a card and it doesn't matter which ones came before it?  I know they are probably rookie questions, but I would appreciate a genuine response.

    The power of "Google" kid ... get some basic knowledge ... come back with better questions ... these are very easy to find ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:

    Do people become good at poker because they learn how to read other players (tendencies, expressions, mannerisms) or because they count cards?  Secondly, if it is either of these things then aren't they both eliminated when playing online because you can't see your opponent and the computer randomly generates a card and it doesn't matter which ones came before it?  I know they are probably rookie questions, but I would appreciate a genuine response.

    The power of "Google" kid ... get some basic knowledge ... come back with better questions ... these are very easy to find ...

     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2011 - 1:00 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by IPartyALOT:

    Poker, and its not even close

     

    the fact you even have to ask shows you probably shouldnt be doing either

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    Quote Originally Posted by IPartyALOT:

    Poker, and its not even close

     

    the fact you even have to ask shows you probably shouldnt be doing either

     
    fish1982
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2011 - 1:30 PM ET #33

    thanks for nothing
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    thanks for nothing
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2011 - 5:13 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:

    Do people become good at poker because they learn how to read other players (tendencies, expressions, mannerisms) or because they count cards?  Secondly, if it is either of these things then aren't they both eliminated when playing online because you can't see your opponent and the computer randomly generates a card and it doesn't matter which ones came before it?  I know they are probably rookie questions, but I would appreciate a genuine response.

     

    While these questions are extremely novice everyone needs to ask them at some point.

     

    Fish1982 if you want some answers feel free to send me afriend request and we can chat thru PM.

     

    Real poker discussion and strategy talk doesnt go over in this forum well. Unless youre complaining about how rigged the internet is you just get flamed here.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:

    Do people become good at poker because they learn how to read other players (tendencies, expressions, mannerisms) or because they count cards?  Secondly, if it is either of these things then aren't they both eliminated when playing online because you can't see your opponent and the computer randomly generates a card and it doesn't matter which ones came before it?  I know they are probably rookie questions, but I would appreciate a genuine response.

     

    While these questions are extremely novice everyone needs to ask them at some point.

     

    Fish1982 if you want some answers feel free to send me afriend request and we can chat thru PM.

     

    Real poker discussion and strategy talk doesnt go over in this forum well. Unless youre complaining about how rigged the internet is you just get flamed here.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2011 - 3:01 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by IPartyALOT:

     

    While these questions are extremely novice everyone needs to ask them at some point.

     

    Fish1982 if you want some answers feel free to send me afriend request and we can chat thru PM.

     

    Real poker discussion and strategy talk doesnt go over in this forum well. Unless youre complaining about how rigged the internet is you just get flamed here.

     



    did you get my newest pm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPartyALOT:

     

    While these questions are extremely novice everyone needs to ask them at some point.

     

    Fish1982 if you want some answers feel free to send me afriend request and we can chat thru PM.

     

    Real poker discussion and strategy talk doesnt go over in this forum well. Unless youre complaining about how rigged the internet is you just get flamed here.

     



    did you get my newest pm?
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2011 - 9:37 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:



    did you get my newest pm?


    Dont do it,dude. This weirdo is BAD news. Hes already been banned twice. Hes seriously whacked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:



    did you get my newest pm?


    Dont do it,dude. This weirdo is BAD news. Hes already been banned twice. Hes seriously whacked.
     
    fish1982
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    Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:14 AM ET #37

    what did he do?
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    what did he do?
     
    IPartyALOT
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    Posted: May. 5, 2011 - 5:36 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:



    did you get my newest pm?

     

    Ya I'll get back to you tonite, srry for the delay, been busy as hell

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    Quote Originally Posted by fish1982:



    did you get my newest pm?

     

    Ya I'll get back to you tonite, srry for the delay, been busy as hell

     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 1:38 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by IPartyALOT:

    Absolutely, I dont know how much experience you have but none of these books could hurt. Also online training sites are a great way to learn also but after black friday Im not sure how much of an option any online poker is gonna be.

     

    Anyways, heres a few books Ive read that will surely help. Some of it may be repetitive and basic but I guarantee you will pick up some things from each book that will help your game.

     

    The Thoery of Poker by David Sklansky - This book is a good starting place because it really lays out the basic formula and goal when playing a poker hand. It teaches you that the decision is the important part, not the result

     

    Super System by Doyle - this book is a little outdated but its the first real poker book of its time and if you plan on taking poker seriously you should at least read it once

     

    SNG strategy by Colin Moshman - This book is great for a beginning SNG player

     

     

    Theres obvioulsy lots more than that but thats a good starting point. Theres no doubt if you read those three books youd not only do better at the tables, but also be much more confident at the tables which obv will lead to even better results


    LOL...the fact that you even mentioned sklansky or doyle's book is laughable....the game has changed SOOOOOO much over the last 5 years and I hate to tell you, but those books are BARELY even relevant anymore...subscribe to a coaching service if you want to get better fast...pocketfives.com has a directory to choose from...
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPartyALOT:

    Absolutely, I dont know how much experience you have but none of these books could hurt. Also online training sites are a great way to learn also but after black friday Im not sure how much of an option any online poker is gonna be.

     

    Anyways, heres a few books Ive read that will surely help. Some of it may be repetitive and basic but I guarantee you will pick up some things from each book that will help your game.

     

    The Thoery of Poker by David Sklansky - This book is a good starting place because it really lays out the basic formula and goal when playing a poker hand. It teaches you that the decision is the important part, not the result

     

    Super System by Doyle - this book is a little outdated but its the first real poker book of its time and if you plan on taking poker seriously you should at least read it once

     

    SNG strategy by Colin Moshman - This book is great for a beginning SNG player

     

     

    Theres obvioulsy lots more than that but thats a good starting point. Theres no doubt if you read those three books youd not only do better at the tables, but also be much more confident at the tables which obv will lead to even better results


    LOL...the fact that you even mentioned sklansky or doyle's book is laughable....the game has changed SOOOOOO much over the last 5 years and I hate to tell you, but those books are BARELY even relevant anymore...subscribe to a coaching service if you want to get better fast...pocketfives.com has a directory to choose from...
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 2:47 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by jlyttle:


    LOL...the fact that you even mentioned sklansky or doyle's book is laughable....the game has changed SOOOOOO much over the last 5 years and I hate to tell you, but those books are BARELY even relevant anymore...subscribe to a coaching service if you want to get better fast...pocketfives.com has a directory to choose from...

     

    He's at the absolute beginnig stages of the game, the books I mentioned are good for laying out the very basics of the game and then as he progresses he can join training sites. But yes as far as beating todays games those books alone are definitely not enough but imo its a good place for him to start since he has only been playing a few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlyttle:


    LOL...the fact that you even mentioned sklansky or doyle's book is laughable....the game has changed SOOOOOO much over the last 5 years and I hate to tell you, but those books are BARELY even relevant anymore...subscribe to a coaching service if you want to get better fast...pocketfives.com has a directory to choose from...

     

    He's at the absolute beginnig stages of the game, the books I mentioned are good for laying out the very basics of the game and then as he progresses he can join training sites. But yes as far as beating todays games those books alone are definitely not enough but imo its a good place for him to start since he has only been playing a few times.

     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2011 - 1:30 PM ET #41

    Here is the TRUTH about playing poker SERIOUSLY... and this comes from someone (me) that played for a living 2004-2005.

    Don't even try to get started unless you LOVE the game and you enjoy sitting at a table for 8 hrs or more at a time several times a week.  For the amount of hours that you are required to put in you will be making less than minimum wage.

    I'm up some $13,000 but 13k over 2 years is not even 40% of min wage over that same time.

    I have yet to make any positive money betting sports but it is something I enjoy doing.

    You will be wasting your time struggling to break even over the long run.. so don't do it as a job but something you enjoy doing.

    Good Luck.
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    Here is the TRUTH about playing poker SERIOUSLY... and this comes from someone (me) that played for a living 2004-2005.

    Don't even try to get started unless you LOVE the game and you enjoy sitting at a table for 8 hrs or more at a time several times a week.  For the amount of hours that you are required to put in you will be making less than minimum wage.

    I'm up some $13,000 but 13k over 2 years is not even 40% of min wage over that same time.

    I have yet to make any positive money betting sports but it is something I enjoy doing.

    You will be wasting your time struggling to break even over the long run.. so don't do it as a job but something you enjoy doing.

    Good Luck.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 9:22 PM ET #42

    [Quote: Originally Posted by ThaHanDoGG] Here is the TRUTH about playing poker SERIOUSLY... and this comes from someone (me) that played for a living 2004-2005.

    Don't even try to get started unless you LOVE the game and you enjoy sitting at a table for 8 hrs or more at a time several times a week.  For the amount of hours that you are required to put in you will be making less than minimum wage.

    I'm up some $13,000 but 13k over 2 years is not even 40% of min wage over that same time.

    I have yet to make any positive money betting sports but it is something I enjoy doing.

    You will be wasting your time struggling to break even over the long run.. so don't do it as a job but something you enjoy doing.

    dude you have never been plus in football season?
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by ThaHanDoGG] Here is the TRUTH about playing poker SERIOUSLY... and this comes from someone (me) that played for a living 2004-2005.

    Don't even try to get started unless you LOVE the game and you enjoy sitting at a table for 8 hrs or more at a time several times a week.  For the amount of hours that you are required to put in you will be making less than minimum wage.

    I'm up some $13,000 but 13k over 2 years is not even 40% of min wage over that same time.

    I have yet to make any positive money betting sports but it is something I enjoy doing.

    You will be wasting your time struggling to break even over the long run.. so don't do it as a job but something you enjoy doing.

    dude you have never been plus in football season?
     
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 9:30 PM ET #43

    poker and sports betting, you could make more then min wage if you know what you are doing. So take sports betting you have to find the value bet of the day. Just read up on poker and go play on a site for fun just get yourself comfortable with the game . The thing with poker is that every hand is different from the last one. You have to treat poker or sports betting like a job you have to put your time in to make a profit.
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    poker and sports betting, you could make more then min wage if you know what you are doing. So take sports betting you have to find the value bet of the day. Just read up on poker and go play on a site for fun just get yourself comfortable with the game . The thing with poker is that every hand is different from the last one. You have to treat poker or sports betting like a job you have to put your time in to make a profit.
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