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questions...

1. can anyone become a Zionist?

2. if a rabbi is opposing Zionism does that make him a terrorist?

3. Posted: 6/12/2012 1:10:47 AMHERE IS THE TRUTH ABOUT ZIONISTS

Indeed, the Zionist desire for sovereignty was so deep that by accepting the UN partition plan in 1947, the movement was willing to let go of Zion, Jerusalem, the city that gave it its very name, in order to get at least a state. Chaim Weitzman, Israel's first president and one of the Zionist movement's most important leaders, is known to have said that the Jewish people would accept a state, even if it was the size of napkin. That's how leaders of a movement that seeks a state above all speak and act.

how can you let go of something that wasn't theirs?

The Jewish people?...the Zionist leaders aren't satisfied with that statement as you can see by the current events. I think it's fair to say the Palestinian's are lucky to have a state the size of a napkin after being robbed.

What is the difference or is there a difference between what the Nazi did in the past and what the Zionist movement is doing today to the believers of the book?
 
 
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Zionist Israeli Criminals Beating Up Jewish Rabbis



 
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No distortion of history can deny the four thousand year old bond, between the Jewish people and the Jewish land.
 
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The conflict has never been about the establishment of a Palestinian state. It has always been about the existence of the Jewish state.


This is what this conflict is about.


 In 1947, the United Nations voted to partition the land into a Jewish state and an Arab state.


 The person said yes.

 The Palestinians said no


. In recent years, the Palestinians twice refused generous offers by Israeli Prime Ministers, to establish a Palestinian state on virtually all the territory won by Israel in the Six Day War.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BMA:

The conflict has never been about the establishment of a Palestinian state. It has always been about the existence of the Jewish state.


This is what this conflict is about.


 In 1947, the United Nations voted to partition the land into a Jewish state and an Arab state.


 The person said yes.

 The Palestinians said no


. In recent years, the Palestinians twice refused generous offers by Israeli Prime Ministers, to establish a Palestinian state on virtually all the territory won by Israel in the Six Day War.



They were simply unwilling to end the conflict.

 And I regret to say this:

 They continue to educate their children to hate.

 They continue to name public squares after terrorists.

 And worst of all, they continue to perpetuate the fantasy that Israel will one day be flooded by the descendants of Palestinian refugees.

 
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As for Jerusalem,


 only a democratic Israel has protected freedom of worship for all faiths in the city.


 Jerusalem must never again be divided. Jerusalem must remain the united capital of Israel.
 
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Hamas is not a partner for peace.


 Hamas remains committed to Israel’s destruction and to terrorism.



They have a charter.



 That charter not only calls for the obliteration of Israel, but says ‘kill the person wherever you find them’.


 Hamas’ leader condemned the killing of Osama bin Laden and praised him as a holy warrior.
 
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Israel is prepared to sit down today and negotiate peace with the Palestinian Authority.


 I But Israel will not negotiate with a Palestinian government backed by the Palestinian version of Al Qaeda.
 
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The truth is that


so far the Palestinians have refused to negotiate.


 The truth is that


 Israel wants peace with a Palestinian state, but the Palestinians want a state without peace.
 
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I love Humus  too with pita bread at  '' Moby Dick'' a great Persian restaurant in the area.....
 
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Israel  left Gaza hoping for peace.


Israel did not freeze the settlements in Gaza, we uprooted them. We did exactly what the theory says: Get out, go back to the 1967 borders, dismantle the settlements.



And I don't think people remember how far we went to achieve this.


We uprooted thousands of people from their homes.


We pulled children out of -- out of their schools and their kindergartens


. We bulldozed synagogues. We even -- we even moved loved ones from their graves.


And then, having done all that, we gave the keys of Gaza to President Abbas.

Now the theory says it should all work out, and President Abbas and the Palestinian Authority now could build a peaceful state in Gaza


. You can remember that the entire world applauded.

They applauded our withdrawal as an act of great statesmanship. It was a bold act of peace.

But ladies and gentlemen, we didn't get peace.


We got war.

We got Iran,

which through its proxy Hamas promptly kicked out the Palestinian Authority.


The Palestinian Authority collapsed in a day -- in one day.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by shrimp1958:

I love Humus  too with pita bread at  '' Moby Dick'' a great Persian restaurant in the area.....


yes lest we forget

Iranians are not Arabs they are Persians

enjoy the cuisine


 
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You don’t need to send American troops to defend Israel. We defend ourselves.
 
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"questions...

1. can anyone become a Zionist?"

Theoretically? Sure, anyone who believes that the Jewish people should have a Jewish homeland as a state is (IMO) a Zionist as I use and understand the term (i.e., not in the perjorative sense).

"2. if a rabbi is opposing Zionism does that make him a terrorist?"

Not in my book.



"3. Posted: 6/12/2012 1:10:47 AMHERE IS THE TRUTH ABOUT ZIONISTS

Indeed, the Zionist desire for sovereignty was so deep that by accepting the UN partition plan in 1947, the movement was willing to let go of Zion, Jerusalem, the city that gave it its very name, in order to get at least a state. Chaim Weitzman, Israel's first president and one of the Zionist movement's most important leaders, is known to have said that the Jewish people would accept a state, even if it was the size of napkin. That's how leaders of a movement that seeks a state above all speak and act.

how can you let go of something that wasn't theirs?

The Jewish people?...the Zionist leaders aren't satisfied with that statement as you can see by the current events. I think it's fair to say the Palestinian's are lucky to have a state the size of a napkin after being robbed.

What is the difference or is there a difference between what the Nazi did in the past and what the Zionist movement is doing today to the believers of the book?"


Are you fucking kidding me Pokin? You really think that there is ANY similarity to what the Nazis did in the past to the current Israeli-Palestinian/Arab/Muslim conflict? Call me when the Israelis start an organized campaign of directed genocide with gas chambers where their goal is the complete elimination of an ethnic group and the numbers that they have killed show they are serious about said goal. It's intellectually dishonest to compare the two.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by BMA:

You don’t need to send American troops to defend Israel. We defend ourselves.


US financial aid to Israel 1949-1996

$ 62.5 Billion
 
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Quote Originally Posted by PokinSmot:




Anti-Zionist Holocaust Survivor

A holocaust survivor speaks of Israel as being like Nazi Germany

This Video is to show the Jewish Community around the world among others who are outraged that there religion Judaism has been hijacked by Zionists who happen to be secular. The Zionists are using the sympathy of the person from events in World War 2 to justify there Brutal Occupation of Palestine and the Ethnic Cleansing of Arabs from the region.






Are you fucking kidding me Pokin? You really think that there is ANY similarity to what the Nazis did in the past to the current Israeli-Palestinian/Arab/Muslim conflict? Call me when the Israelis start an organized campaign of directed genocide with gas chambers where their goal is the complete elimination of an ethnic group and the numbers that they have killed show they are serious about said goal. It's intellectually dishonest to compare the two.

Kap.....not my words...the words of a survivor
 
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In a region where women are stoned, gays are hanged, Christians are persecuted, Israel stands out. It is different.
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