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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 7:39 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    On my radar if line goes a smidge higher

    thinking ucla backers will push it up a bit by Thursday

    good call ... its 5.5 now ... could see 7+ by kickoff

    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    On my radar if line goes a smidge higher

    thinking ucla backers will push it up a bit by Thursday

    good call ... its 5.5 now ... could see 7+ by kickoff

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 7:42 PM ET #52

    Best of Luck Brother MEGA

    U Balling Bro
    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Best of Luck Brother MEGA

    U Balling Bro
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 7:46 PM ET #53

    It would help if I didn't confuse Kansas with Iowa St. Wish I could blame it on something other than age.  Graymatter is correct Jayhawks play Tech tough every year. If memory serves Tech plays better at KU than at home in the series. Still like Tech a little, but not as much as against Iowa St. the next week at home. 

    If Jonathan Gray lays down.......UT is toast. 
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    It would help if I didn't confuse Kansas with Iowa St. Wish I could blame it on something other than age.  Graymatter is correct Jayhawks play Tech tough every year. If memory serves Tech plays better at KU than at home in the series. Still like Tech a little, but not as much as against Iowa St. the next week at home. 

    If Jonathan Gray lays down.......UT is toast. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 8:08 PM ET #54

    maybe Kansas should go in the "hidden gems" thread, lol.....
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    maybe Kansas should go in the "hidden gems" thread, lol.....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 8:25 PM ET #55

    Love UTAH in this spot. UCLA is not proven. Their Defense might be worse than last year. Always tough to travel to Utah. I think the OVER need to be considered too. 

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    Love UTAH in this spot. UCLA is not proven. Their Defense might be worse than last year. Always tough to travel to Utah. I think the OVER need to be considered too. 

    Good Luck 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 8:33 PM ET #56

    i agree Utah is the side here if the game is played, i havent booked anything yet because I lack confidence in the ability of Utahs QB to come from behind, his numbers are telling otherwise, but there is something about him that wont let me pull the trigger.....
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    i agree Utah is the side here if the game is played, i havent booked anything yet because I lack confidence in the ability of Utahs QB to come from behind, his numbers are telling otherwise, but there is something about him that wont let me pull the trigger.....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 8:38 PM ET #57

    Good Luck On The Action
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 8:51 PM ET #58

    Hoping this gets to 6.5 so we can buy it to 7. Love the analysis mega!
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    Hoping this gets to 6.5 so we can buy it to 7. Love the analysis mega!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 11:11 AM ET #59

    thx guys - appreciate it

    upside - great call on ucla line we felt there was a 85% shot it went to 6 before 3.5 but decided to just bite the bullet and take Utah +4 while we could. 5/5.5 dead zone for spread anyway. Would be shocked if it hit 7 without injury news but its possible - GL

    basstard - Kansas analysis up next

    t tech 17.5 Kansas (54)

    this is a no play for me although we lean Kansas - actually have the fair line quite a bit lower - 13/14 range. yes Kansas not great but fat Charlie has them more competitive and keep in mind last 2 yrs when Kansas was 1-11 and 2-10 the games were 41-34 and 45-34. Kansas pass eff D ranked 11 mind you only played one qb with a pulse...just have no idea how good ttech is - think taking the points the way to go slight lean KU no lean total

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    thx guys - appreciate it

    upside - great call on ucla line we felt there was a 85% shot it went to 6 before 3.5 but decided to just bite the bullet and take Utah +4 while we could. 5/5.5 dead zone for spread anyway. Would be shocked if it hit 7 without injury news but its possible - GL

    basstard - Kansas analysis up next

    t tech 17.5 Kansas (54)

    this is a no play for me although we lean Kansas - actually have the fair line quite a bit lower - 13/14 range. yes Kansas not great but fat Charlie has them more competitive and keep in mind last 2 yrs when Kansas was 1-11 and 2-10 the games were 41-34 and 45-34. Kansas pass eff D ranked 11 mind you only played one qb with a pulse...just have no idea how good ttech is - think taking the points the way to go slight lean KU no lean total

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 11:27 AM ET #60

    Mega..thanks for the Kansas analysis.......all good points..no play for me as a Tech alum that has faded them 3 out of 4 already. Some day will learn not to gamble on the alma mater. That said, my gut, not my heart says, Tech is  much improved with same players on defense from last year, as a result of superior coaching of the fundamentals. Same old thing tho, they haven't really played any quality competition IMO. 
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    Mega..thanks for the Kansas analysis.......all good points..no play for me as a Tech alum that has faded them 3 out of 4 already. Some day will learn not to gamble on the alma mater. That said, my gut, not my heart says, Tech is  much improved with same players on defense from last year, as a result of superior coaching of the fundamentals. Same old thing tho, they haven't really played any quality competition IMO. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 12:11 PM ET #61

    next play

    Rutgers / SMU over 54

    Basics? Rutgers could get 40. SMU could get 30. Rutgers offense underrated, D overrated; SMU offense run/shoot 70% pass. D is garbage. 54?? WTF. Perception of Rutgers chopping wood when really they rob liquor stores and fall asleep covering receivers.

    Further? SMU totals so far 64,61,55,65. throw the ball 70% of the time and have 3 WR with more than 250yds going up against 3 freshman CB this wk...1/2 the Rutgers team is decimated with injuries including lots in secondary, backups on DL, and best LB. We have no doubt SMU will score - Fresno is way better on offense obviously but they got 456 pass y and 5 td in OT win over Rutgers......Rutgers offense ? well star RB James out which is a big negative for the run game since the backup has yes 138 yds - which by itself means squat since he is the backup but also only 3.4/carry vs James 7.3. Rutgers is gonna need to pass. Down last week to Hogs came back nicely under Super Nova at QB....They have 4 guys with more than 10 catches and a good OL facing no pass rush. The ball may never hit the ground in this one...Bonus ? Well Rutgers is #1 in KOR including 2 guys with TD also good on
    PR....good chance we get a bonus TD or at a minimum good field position.....other bonus - SMU gets top RB Shead back this wk although he has been injured and who knows what he will do....Rutgers D gave up 0 to a FCS team and 10 to EM but Ark moved it and Fresno is still scoring on them....SMU pass D gives up 8/attempt and only 1 int all yr.

    Originally had SMU but once we missed the 7 decided taking the over was lower risk than SMU +4.5 since SMU while 15-1 home SU in conf games has a bad D 120th in T/o margin 108th in penalties and 120 in sacks allowed - totally conceivable Rutgers can win by 7 but we are definitely putting SMU on the A list ML parlay plays

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    Rutgers / SMU over 54

    Basics? Rutgers could get 40. SMU could get 30. Rutgers offense underrated, D overrated; SMU offense run/shoot 70% pass. D is garbage. 54?? WTF. Perception of Rutgers chopping wood when really they rob liquor stores and fall asleep covering receivers.

    Further? SMU totals so far 64,61,55,65. throw the ball 70% of the time and have 3 WR with more than 250yds going up against 3 freshman CB this wk...1/2 the Rutgers team is decimated with injuries including lots in secondary, backups on DL, and best LB. We have no doubt SMU will score - Fresno is way better on offense obviously but they got 456 pass y and 5 td in OT win over Rutgers......Rutgers offense ? well star RB James out which is a big negative for the run game since the backup has yes 138 yds - which by itself means squat since he is the backup but also only 3.4/carry vs James 7.3. Rutgers is gonna need to pass. Down last week to Hogs came back nicely under Super Nova at QB....They have 4 guys with more than 10 catches and a good OL facing no pass rush. The ball may never hit the ground in this one...Bonus ? Well Rutgers is #1 in KOR including 2 guys with TD also good on
    PR....good chance we get a bonus TD or at a minimum good field position.....other bonus - SMU gets top RB Shead back this wk although he has been injured and who knows what he will do....Rutgers D gave up 0 to a FCS team and 10 to EM but Ark moved it and Fresno is still scoring on them....SMU pass D gives up 8/attempt and only 1 int all yr.

    Originally had SMU but once we missed the 7 decided taking the over was lower risk than SMU +4.5 since SMU while 15-1 home SU in conf games has a bad D 120th in T/o margin 108th in penalties and 120 in sacks allowed - totally conceivable Rutgers can win by 7 but we are definitely putting SMU on the A list ML parlay plays

    mega

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 12:30 PM ET #62

    Good luck this week Mega! 
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    Good luck this week Mega! 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 5:42 PM ET #63

    HOT CARL ALERT    

    Iowa +1.5

    HOT CARL has slurped sucked pounded and steamed himself to a 3-0 record this yr Can he go 4-0?

    Once again - before you say Mich St D is awesome they are the play - we focus on context. If iowa was laying 3 we stay away.
    Iowa -3.5 we play Sparty.

    Its so easy to focus on one aspect of a game and be brainwashed we do it all the time but try and get better and taking a step back. Iowa's D is pretty good too and they have played at least an avg schedule so far - SOS ranked 85th on Sagarin. Get this - Mich St's schedule strength is ranked 168. yes. 168. There are 2 women's bowling teams ranked higher.

    Mich St so far. 26-13 vs WMich. 115th ranked offense - crap D - won 26-13 scored 13 off pts. 21-6 over USF ranked 120 in offense -0 crap D - defense outscored offense. Beat Youngstown 55-17. way to go. Scored 13 against ND. Avg D - 88th ranked offense. Now we feel that while their D is excellent - COME ON - how can anyone really know how good they are given a)schedule b)no Gholston c)refs have caught on to their CBs raping WRs. They don't have a dominant pass rush. Ok so D is still excellent but their offense is wretched and consider WHO they have played. They don't have "that guy" to scare you. Cook is a decent runner - 5 td 0 int - but not gonna win a game at iowa. Iowa has decent QB - solid run game - Weisman 615 3td....have a tough WR to cover with 26 catches....Big play guy emerging Powell 4 catches 206 yds he just makes football plays on the football field with the football in football formations.....Iowa has scored 27 28 27 59 23 and think they have enough balance to score more than Sparty provided they are not -2 or worse in turnovers.

    Finally comparing the Ds again - recognizing iowa is not as good - but sparty has played nobody.....Overall rank (1 vs 7 iowa) run D (2 vs 7th iowa)...3rd down D (3, iowa 8) I mean they are not that far off imo....Mich St also 114th in penalty yds. Last tidbit - Sparty is ranked 119 in plays over 20 yds this yr....not a single play over 40 yards. my god. iowa home field, better offense, D that will matchup just as well with the other offense. playing with confidence.

    GL mega

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    HOT CARL ALERT    

    Iowa +1.5

    HOT CARL has slurped sucked pounded and steamed himself to a 3-0 record this yr Can he go 4-0?

    Once again - before you say Mich St D is awesome they are the play - we focus on context. If iowa was laying 3 we stay away.
    Iowa -3.5 we play Sparty.

    Its so easy to focus on one aspect of a game and be brainwashed we do it all the time but try and get better and taking a step back. Iowa's D is pretty good too and they have played at least an avg schedule so far - SOS ranked 85th on Sagarin. Get this - Mich St's schedule strength is ranked 168. yes. 168. There are 2 women's bowling teams ranked higher.

    Mich St so far. 26-13 vs WMich. 115th ranked offense - crap D - won 26-13 scored 13 off pts. 21-6 over USF ranked 120 in offense -0 crap D - defense outscored offense. Beat Youngstown 55-17. way to go. Scored 13 against ND. Avg D - 88th ranked offense. Now we feel that while their D is excellent - COME ON - how can anyone really know how good they are given a)schedule b)no Gholston c)refs have caught on to their CBs raping WRs. They don't have a dominant pass rush. Ok so D is still excellent but their offense is wretched and consider WHO they have played. They don't have "that guy" to scare you. Cook is a decent runner - 5 td 0 int - but not gonna win a game at iowa. Iowa has decent QB - solid run game - Weisman 615 3td....have a tough WR to cover with 26 catches....Big play guy emerging Powell 4 catches 206 yds he just makes football plays on the football field with the football in football formations.....Iowa has scored 27 28 27 59 23 and think they have enough balance to score more than Sparty provided they are not -2 or worse in turnovers.

    Finally comparing the Ds again - recognizing iowa is not as good - but sparty has played nobody.....Overall rank (1 vs 7 iowa) run D (2 vs 7th iowa)...3rd down D (3, iowa 8) I mean they are not that far off imo....Mich St also 114th in penalty yds. Last tidbit - Sparty is ranked 119 in plays over 20 yds this yr....not a single play over 40 yards. my god. iowa home field, better offense, D that will matchup just as well with the other offense. playing with confidence.

    GL mega

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 5:53 PM ET #64

    HOT CARL THE BOOKIE


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    HOT CARL THE BOOKIE


     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 5:59 PM ET #65

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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 6:24 PM ET #66

    My hatred for Ferentz runs deep , so much I didn't even consider this one.  Bad personal history here. Solid logic in the write up though. Hot Carl speaks, guess I'll follow, call me a sheep.

    HC .... 
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    My hatred for Ferentz runs deep , so much I didn't even consider this one.  Bad personal history here. Solid logic in the write up though. Hot Carl speaks, guess I'll follow, call me a sheep.

    HC .... 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 6:30 PM ET #67

    Thx guys 

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    Thx guys 

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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 6:42 PM ET #68

    Fact: Hot Carl is 82-0 when picking the home team if the game is played in Iowa in October before the 26th.....
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    Fact: Hot Carl is 82-0 when picking the home team if the game is played in Iowa in October before the 26th.....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 6:51 AM ET #69

    thinking ULM offense struggles tonight and WKU running game chews up the clock so going u20 for ULM team, keep hitting it good mega BOL

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    thinking ULM offense struggles tonight and WKU running game chews up the clock so going u20 for ULM team, keep hitting it good mega BOL

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 8:46 AM ET #70

    locks I like your UTAH bet bol
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    locks I like your UTAH bet bol
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 8:48 AM ET #71

    locks I like your bet iowa bol
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    locks I like your bet iowa bol
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 9:22 AM ET #72

    MegaFuknLocks...................

    best read each week...

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    MegaFuknLocks...................

    best read each week...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 9:50 AM ET #73

    thx guys  let's do it

     more thoughts

    neb 10 Illinois

    have the fair line right there....tough part about capping this game is the new QB situation at Nebraska - we don't have the local knowledge but 2 new guys looked good vs FCS team pre bye - this is illini first true road game...illini outperformed vegas 45+ neb -35ish....lean illini but just cant do it based on this could be turnaround game for huskers new life qb? slight lean over 60...prob no play on this one

    Bama 56 Feces St

    Not touching this. Georgia St is the worst team we have ever rated so 60-0- possible even with Bama scrubs.

    VT 7.5 UNC

    VT D is a brick wall - absolutely leaning that way UNC no shot of running the ball - Logan Thomas Sucks premium built into VT lines is still too high.....only thing stopping us - UNC last 2 games at VT were 3 pt games both ways....no lean on total 46 too low

    CM 3.5 Miami Oh

    No feel for this one. Both horrid - Miami beyond filth.

    BC 13 Army

    Last yr Army beat them - looked good last wk too....BC bad record covering vs losing teams....sandwich game too....lean army - would have leaned under 50 until army put up 30+ last wk got a bit healthier in backfield...prob pass on this one

    Troy 3.5 S Ala

    S Alabama big + to vegas line so far troy the opposite.....leaning troy based on explosive offense 2 headed monster qb but D is awful and turnovers ranked 117th....S Ala games decided by 1,2,7,7....would want more points - pass - total looks right at 62

    Marshall 14 UTSA

    have the fair line closer to 17....don't like laying 2 TD unless we see 20+ win and UTSA has proven they can at least hang so far backdoor and no backdoor....slight lean to over 65

    ohio 5 akron

    line looks right where it should be to us - Ohio injury report 7 pages long including a ton of OL...could be BS tho....Ohio still a bit of an unknown to us playing at Louisville and home to Austin Peay so cumulative stats a bit unreliable....Ohio has won 5 SU in row vs Zips.....gonna take a pass.

    UAB 4.5 Fla Atl

    total looks very low at 53 but F Atl pass D been very good and they switch QB randomly driving us nuts...UAB at LSU at Vandy skews their stats - blew game vs Troy not sure what we have here...lean Fla Atl but they have 5th road game in 6 games to start the yr ! some teams have not even played 5 games period....include FAU in ML wheel probably but cant go full unit

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    thx guys  let's do it

     more thoughts

    neb 10 Illinois

    have the fair line right there....tough part about capping this game is the new QB situation at Nebraska - we don't have the local knowledge but 2 new guys looked good vs FCS team pre bye - this is illini first true road game...illini outperformed vegas 45+ neb -35ish....lean illini but just cant do it based on this could be turnaround game for huskers new life qb? slight lean over 60...prob no play on this one

    Bama 56 Feces St

    Not touching this. Georgia St is the worst team we have ever rated so 60-0- possible even with Bama scrubs.

    VT 7.5 UNC

    VT D is a brick wall - absolutely leaning that way UNC no shot of running the ball - Logan Thomas Sucks premium built into VT lines is still too high.....only thing stopping us - UNC last 2 games at VT were 3 pt games both ways....no lean on total 46 too low

    CM 3.5 Miami Oh

    No feel for this one. Both horrid - Miami beyond filth.

    BC 13 Army

    Last yr Army beat them - looked good last wk too....BC bad record covering vs losing teams....sandwich game too....lean army - would have leaned under 50 until army put up 30+ last wk got a bit healthier in backfield...prob pass on this one

    Troy 3.5 S Ala

    S Alabama big + to vegas line so far troy the opposite.....leaning troy based on explosive offense 2 headed monster qb but D is awful and turnovers ranked 117th....S Ala games decided by 1,2,7,7....would want more points - pass - total looks right at 62

    Marshall 14 UTSA

    have the fair line closer to 17....don't like laying 2 TD unless we see 20+ win and UTSA has proven they can at least hang so far backdoor and no backdoor....slight lean to over 65

    ohio 5 akron

    line looks right where it should be to us - Ohio injury report 7 pages long including a ton of OL...could be BS tho....Ohio still a bit of an unknown to us playing at Louisville and home to Austin Peay so cumulative stats a bit unreliable....Ohio has won 5 SU in row vs Zips.....gonna take a pass.

    UAB 4.5 Fla Atl

    total looks very low at 53 but F Atl pass D been very good and they switch QB randomly driving us nuts...UAB at LSU at Vandy skews their stats - blew game vs Troy not sure what we have here...lean Fla Atl but they have 5th road game in 6 games to start the yr ! some teams have not even played 5 games period....include FAU in ML wheel probably but cant go full unit

    mega

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 10:31 AM ET #74

    Like the iowa pick, good luck!!
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    Like the iowa pick, good luck!!
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 10:35 AM ET #75

    Hot Carl text me and said Florida Int mightt win SU as 17 point dogs.....
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    Hot Carl text me and said Florida Int mightt win SU as 17 point dogs.....
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