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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2025 - 11:17 PM ET #301

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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2025 - 11:56 PM ET #302

    This is crazy, Lost every single game so far. Hopefully it turns around soon or i'll pack it up.

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    This is crazy, Lost every single game so far. Hopefully it turns around soon or i'll pack it up.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2025 - 1:17 AM ET #303

    I’m off it. an_beatup

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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2025 - 5:10 AM ET #304

    Am starting to think the famed Split left us when its instigator departed…..

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    Am starting to think the famed Split left us when its instigator departed…..

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2025 - 11:25 AM ET #305

    Quote Originally Posted by R1729amanujan:

    Am starting to think the famed Split left us when its instigator departed…..

     

    Its a possibility. The strategy is sound. But man it's off to a terrible start. Last season started bad too.

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    Am starting to think the famed Split left us when its instigator departed…..

     

    Its a possibility. The strategy is sound. But man it's off to a terrible start. Last season started bad too.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2025 - 12:37 PM ET #306

    Wild and Sens in play tonight. I believe both teams are capable. Do or die!

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    Wild and Sens in play tonight. I believe both teams are capable. Do or die!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2025 - 4:50 PM ET #307

    I think the Sens have a shot - they won’t be disheartened after the first game and Toronto are always flakey. The Wild not so much…..

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    I think the Sens have a shot - they won’t be disheartened after the first game and Toronto are always flakey. The Wild not so much…..

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2025 - 5:08 PM ET #308

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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2025 - 8:33 PM ET #309

    This system relies on some semblance of parity within the league. First round this year is all good versus shit. 

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    This system relies on some semblance of parity within the league. First round this year is all good versus shit. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2025 - 10:46 PM ET #310

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    Must be same case last year. 

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    Must be same case last year. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2025 - 11:06 PM ET #311

    I think this system would work a lot better in round2, 

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    I think this system would work a lot better in round2, 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2025 - 11:17 PM ET #312

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     I guess I'll find out. Between R1 last year and this year I took an absolute ass whooping. 

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     I guess I'll find out. Between R1 last year and this year I took an absolute ass whooping. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2025 - 1:42 AM ET #313

    We finally got one! +207 at that and sweat free

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    We finally got one! +207 at that and sweat free

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2025 - 1:52 AM ET #314

    Current summary:

    STL +170 thumbs_down

    OTT +147 thumbs_down

    MIN +217 thumbs_down

    MTL +165 thumbs_down

    STL +170 thumbs_down

    EDM +134 thumbs_down

    OTT +149 thumbs_down

    MIN +207 thumbs_up

     

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    More plays to come round 1

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    Current summary:

    STL +170 thumbs_down

    OTT +147 thumbs_down

    MIN +217 thumbs_down

    MTL +165 thumbs_down

    STL +170 thumbs_down

    EDM +134 thumbs_down

    OTT +149 thumbs_down

    MIN +207 thumbs_up

     

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    More plays to come round 1

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2025 - 5:56 AM ET #315

    Quote Originally Posted by emoltzan:

    Current summary: STL +170  OTT +147  MIN +217  MTL +165  STL +170  EDM +134  OTT +149  MIN +207    1-7 -4.93u    More plays to come round 1
    Thanks for keeping trackpeace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by emoltzan:

    Current summary: STL +170  OTT +147  MIN +217  MTL +165  STL +170  EDM +134  OTT +149  MIN +207    1-7 -4.93u    More plays to come round 1
    Thanks for keeping trackpeace_5

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2025 - 1:53 PM ET #316

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     With the exception of Montreal, Not sure I agree with that.  None of the top 3 in each Conference is anything but a Legit Cup Contender, so that leaves only the WC's to validate that argument.  Senators had 1 less point in the overall standings to the defending Cup Champ Panthers.  St Louis and Minnesota the same.  Thats tough to get to a "good vs shit" argument when one of the Cup Faves all season is only 1 point better than the WC's.

    It is more attributed to either normal variance, or advantages the Home team is now exploiting, post Covid season.  Looking at recent data for all Round 1 Game 1 games, the 5 cups post-Covid Home Teams went 28-12.  5 seasons prior to Covid season, Home teams went 21-19 Round 1 Game 1.  21-19 makes the Lipps-Split very profitable, because half your Wins do not require you to bet on a team twice.  28-12 means lots more bets on Game 2 dogs.

    The playoffs/seeding formats are the same from 2015-2025, and the WC's in 2015 were all within 11 or less points than the Conf Champ #1 seed, and within or had more points than multiple Conf Seeds.  Maybe with all the AI & Analytics being used, Coaches are able to better exploit "last change" and gain more and more favorable matchups. 

    Dunno what to attribute this to, but the data clearly shows a new trend post Covid season giving Home team some kind of advantage, or we are just in a portion of the data population where it skews towards Home team dominance, and we'll see a shift in the opposite direction in coming years, making the Split profitable again.  All data set populations have variance - go flip a coin 100 times, and you'll see.peace_5

     

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     With the exception of Montreal, Not sure I agree with that.  None of the top 3 in each Conference is anything but a Legit Cup Contender, so that leaves only the WC's to validate that argument.  Senators had 1 less point in the overall standings to the defending Cup Champ Panthers.  St Louis and Minnesota the same.  Thats tough to get to a "good vs shit" argument when one of the Cup Faves all season is only 1 point better than the WC's.

    It is more attributed to either normal variance, or advantages the Home team is now exploiting, post Covid season.  Looking at recent data for all Round 1 Game 1 games, the 5 cups post-Covid Home Teams went 28-12.  5 seasons prior to Covid season, Home teams went 21-19 Round 1 Game 1.  21-19 makes the Lipps-Split very profitable, because half your Wins do not require you to bet on a team twice.  28-12 means lots more bets on Game 2 dogs.

    The playoffs/seeding formats are the same from 2015-2025, and the WC's in 2015 were all within 11 or less points than the Conf Champ #1 seed, and within or had more points than multiple Conf Seeds.  Maybe with all the AI & Analytics being used, Coaches are able to better exploit "last change" and gain more and more favorable matchups. 

    Dunno what to attribute this to, but the data clearly shows a new trend post Covid season giving Home team some kind of advantage, or we are just in a portion of the data population where it skews towards Home team dominance, and we'll see a shift in the opposite direction in coming years, making the Split profitable again.  All data set populations have variance - go flip a coin 100 times, and you'll see.peace_5

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2025 - 1:54 PM ET #317

    Here's the data:

    2025 Home team 6-2 Round 1 Game 1

    2024 Home team 7-1 Round 1 Game 1

    2023 Home team 2-6 Round 1 Game 1

    2022 Home team 6-2 Round 1 Game 1

    2021 Home team 7-1 Round 1 Game 1

    2020 Covid Season

    2019 Home team 4-4 Round 1 Game 1

    2018 Home team 6-2 Round 1 Game 1

    2017 Home team 3-5 Round 1 Game 1

    2016 Home team 5-3 Round 1 Game 1

    2015 Home team 3-5 Round 1 Game 1

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    Here's the data:

    2025 Home team 6-2 Round 1 Game 1

    2024 Home team 7-1 Round 1 Game 1

    2023 Home team 2-6 Round 1 Game 1

    2022 Home team 6-2 Round 1 Game 1

    2021 Home team 7-1 Round 1 Game 1

    2020 Covid Season

    2019 Home team 4-4 Round 1 Game 1

    2018 Home team 6-2 Round 1 Game 1

    2017 Home team 3-5 Round 1 Game 1

    2016 Home team 5-3 Round 1 Game 1

    2015 Home team 3-5 Round 1 Game 1

     
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    i was going to add that but didn't want to pile on. It does seem the no home ice advantage is a thing of the past. Be it technology or new fans, seems like they figured something out to make home ice a plus.

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    i was going to add that but didn't want to pile on. It does seem the no home ice advantage is a thing of the past. Be it technology or new fans, seems like they figured something out to make home ice a plus.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2025 - 4:47 PM ET #319

    Quote Originally Posted by MIZARD:

    I think this system would work a lot better in round2,

    This may be the year, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIZARD:

    I think this system would work a lot better in round2,

    This may be the year, yes.

     
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    Agree, the data looks like something is amiss with Home Ice.  Maybe a side effect of the Vaccine is better home ice advantage... an_roll_laugh

    Now we degenerate gamblers gotta figure it out. bigsmile

    good luck going forward cat peace_5

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    Agree, the data looks like something is amiss with Home Ice.  Maybe a side effect of the Vaccine is better home ice advantage... an_roll_laugh

    Now we degenerate gamblers gotta figure it out. bigsmile

    good luck going forward cat peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dyamarik:

    Here's the data: 2025 Home team 6-2 Round 1 Game 1 2024 Home team 7-1 Round 1 Game 1 2023 Home team 2-6 Round 1 Game 1 2022 Home team 6-2 Round 1 Game 1 2021 Home team 7-1 Round 1 Game 1 2020 Covid Season 2019 Home team 4-4 Round 1 Game 1 2018 Home team 6-2 Round 1 Game 1 2017 Home team 3-5 Round 1 Game 1 2016 Home team 5-3 Round 1 Game 1 2015 Home team 3-5 Round 1 Game 1
       thank you for the info

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    Here's the data: 2025 Home team 6-2 Round 1 Game 1 2024 Home team 7-1 Round 1 Game 1 2023 Home team 2-6 Round 1 Game 1 2022 Home team 6-2 Round 1 Game 1 2021 Home team 7-1 Round 1 Game 1 2020 Covid Season 2019 Home team 4-4 Round 1 Game 1 2018 Home team 6-2 Round 1 Game 1 2017 Home team 3-5 Round 1 Game 1 2016 Home team 5-3 Round 1 Game 1 2015 Home team 3-5 Round 1 Game 1
       thank you for the info

     
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    MTL is the only play tonight?

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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2025 - 8:24 PM ET #323

    "If the dog loses the first game you take them no matter what the line is in game 2 as long as there are no 1st liner injuries"

    EDM would be a play according to Mr. Lipp, respectfully. 

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    "If the dog loses the first game you take them no matter what the line is in game 2 as long as there are no 1st liner injuries"

    EDM would be a play according to Mr. Lipp, respectfully. 

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