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    Why handicappers have such a rough time breaking fifty percent.

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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 4:42 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by GLASSESGUY:



    I am looking forward to getting back on track so we can pick up where we left off. WINNING. Master Chief.

    About the Haters and your committed discipline, just do what you do with a smile and let them destroy themselves emotionally and financially. A wise man told me a tiger cannot change his stripes. I pose the same question to you as you did to me. Can you change your stripes? Peace Bro
     TOUCHE Grasshopper!  (or however you spell 2CHHAA lol) 
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    I am looking forward to getting back on track so we can pick up where we left off. WINNING. Master Chief.

    About the Haters and your committed discipline, just do what you do with a smile and let them destroy themselves emotionally and financially. A wise man told me a tiger cannot change his stripes. I pose the same question to you as you did to me. Can you change your stripes? Peace Bro
     TOUCHE Grasshopper!  (or however you spell 2CHHAA lol) 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 4:44 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by gomburzago:

    Can you summarize your point in 1-2 sentences?



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    Can you summarize your point in 1-2 sentences?



     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 4:48 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkDogg:




     already did... I think the reply is on page 1...
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     already did... I think the reply is on page 1...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 5:50 PM ET #79

    good logic to what you say...

    Joe public is everywhere and sharps, they tend to keep it to themselves..

    So for next year, I am going to stand around the counter area and starting to get a survey to who people like...I then fade them, the joe public that tends to lose at the end of the season.  No capping skills needed.   If only it was that easy.

    ESPN and the media is what joe be watching to get his feed.  Whatever hype or images of a team being thrown out more, go the other way.   Once again, if only it was that easy.

    What easy is for folks to fade me because I'm fading material.  Let me do all the wrong capping for you and you will benefit it. 
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    good logic to what you say...

    Joe public is everywhere and sharps, they tend to keep it to themselves..

    So for next year, I am going to stand around the counter area and starting to get a survey to who people like...I then fade them, the joe public that tends to lose at the end of the season.  No capping skills needed.   If only it was that easy.

    ESPN and the media is what joe be watching to get his feed.  Whatever hype or images of a team being thrown out more, go the other way.   Once again, if only it was that easy.

    What easy is for folks to fade me because I'm fading material.  Let me do all the wrong capping for you and you will benefit it. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 5:50 PM ET #80


    500 on Jacksonville under 39 1/2
    I like the under in the Jacksonville Monday night game.  Besides the fact that the under is 6-0 in Jacksonvilles last 6 and 10-1 in their last 11 (the one that went over they lost and the total hits thanks to Cin, Jacksonville scored 20) and the under is 3-2 in SD last 5, Jacksonville does not score points in prime time games.  Neither team has scored more than 20 points in their last 3 games and Jacksonville has only scored more than 20 once in their last 6 games.  Jacksonville has the worse passer in the league and sticks to the run and SD has the 7th ranked passing D to embarass Gabbert.  Be expecting a running game, in other words a fast game!

    500 on St Johns -1
    St Johns -1 is a strong play.  Det has not covered in their last 8 games and St Johns is 3-3 in their last 6 vs the spread.  Look for St Johns to rebound after their loss to Kentucky and NE.  The front court for Detroit is a little thin because of injury and they are not deep on the bench.  Look for St Johns to pull away in the second half.

    500 on NHL Phoenix vs Chicago under 5 1/2
    These 2 teams have strong goal tednders and neither team is very storng on power plays.  Phoenix is in the top 5 in penalty kills percentage.  Phoenix games has stayed under in 4 out of their last 5, including a 4-1 win at Chicago on Nov 29th. 

    Other notable games:
    Austin P -5
    Providence under 139.5

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    500 on Jacksonville under 39 1/2
    I like the under in the Jacksonville Monday night game.  Besides the fact that the under is 6-0 in Jacksonvilles last 6 and 10-1 in their last 11 (the one that went over they lost and the total hits thanks to Cin, Jacksonville scored 20) and the under is 3-2 in SD last 5, Jacksonville does not score points in prime time games.  Neither team has scored more than 20 points in their last 3 games and Jacksonville has only scored more than 20 once in their last 6 games.  Jacksonville has the worse passer in the league and sticks to the run and SD has the 7th ranked passing D to embarass Gabbert.  Be expecting a running game, in other words a fast game!

    500 on St Johns -1
    St Johns -1 is a strong play.  Det has not covered in their last 8 games and St Johns is 3-3 in their last 6 vs the spread.  Look for St Johns to rebound after their loss to Kentucky and NE.  The front court for Detroit is a little thin because of injury and they are not deep on the bench.  Look for St Johns to pull away in the second half.

    500 on NHL Phoenix vs Chicago under 5 1/2
    These 2 teams have strong goal tednders and neither team is very storng on power plays.  Phoenix is in the top 5 in penalty kills percentage.  Phoenix games has stayed under in 4 out of their last 5, including a 4-1 win at Chicago on Nov 29th. 

    Other notable games:
    Austin P -5
    Providence under 139.5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 5:57 PM ET #81

    Thanks K. GL tonight.


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    Thanks K. GL tonight.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 6:18 PM ET #82

    all be in vegas in january we need to hook up and hang out you seem like a class act good write up again its refreshing to read a post that actually is a asset to this site
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    all be in vegas in january we need to hook up and hang out you seem like a class act good write up again its refreshing to read a post that actually is a asset to this site
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 6:20 PM ET #83

    KS  nice post  i fall under  in tearms of wagering ,,,,,,,,,none of the above  i know a guy that lets his dog make pics by putting yummies in front of five little boxes the one the dog eats  first  he wagers on....its his best  5 pics he likes....his dog picks 1......hes won 7 out of 11  wks now.....gamberlers  are  STUPID  A FUCKING  DOG  CAN  MAKE A PIC........WOW
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    KS  nice post  i fall under  in tearms of wagering ,,,,,,,,,none of the above  i know a guy that lets his dog make pics by putting yummies in front of five little boxes the one the dog eats  first  he wagers on....its his best  5 pics he likes....his dog picks 1......hes won 7 out of 11  wks now.....gamberlers  are  STUPID  A FUCKING  DOG  CAN  MAKE A PIC........WOW
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 6:23 PM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by nflpicker14:

    This was probably true about 20 years ago, but now all you need to do is call your buddy and see who he's picking, then go on covers and read the first 20 posts.  If they have similar picks, fade and count your money to the bank.

    This is a system I developed that's hitting about 60% and only takes an hour of research

    Aint that the truth.  I'm hitting 59% in my 70 person pool and around 65% for my actual wagers.  i dont have to research for hours in newspapers and previews of games (and where are you getting locker room info?) to do it either. 

    Covers forum is one of the best tools (as well as friends or family members)  There are losers everywhere. It's all about public perception with football.....mix in some trend/stats/matchup research.....go on the covers forum and then formulate my picks. 

    Football, especially NFL is the only sport you can do this with and be very consistent.  I'm more of a baseball bettor and I do a ton of research for that, because there are actuall statistics and trends to research.  Its a long season and stats are huge in baseball, so it takes some time.  Plus you dont fade the public in baseball, its too long of a season and there are more veteren gamblers.   Baseball is a grind not like football, which is a sprint.  And that sprint alters everyones perception from week to week.  Football is more or less for action junkies with a few actual vets.   

    Football is a joke and whatever you think wont happen will happen.   The sooner you start to realize this, the better off you'll be in the long run.

    So...good luick with all your hours of meanigless research of an unpredictable football game

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    Quote Originally Posted by nflpicker14:

    This was probably true about 20 years ago, but now all you need to do is call your buddy and see who he's picking, then go on covers and read the first 20 posts.  If they have similar picks, fade and count your money to the bank.

    This is a system I developed that's hitting about 60% and only takes an hour of research

    Aint that the truth.  I'm hitting 59% in my 70 person pool and around 65% for my actual wagers.  i dont have to research for hours in newspapers and previews of games (and where are you getting locker room info?) to do it either. 

    Covers forum is one of the best tools (as well as friends or family members)  There are losers everywhere. It's all about public perception with football.....mix in some trend/stats/matchup research.....go on the covers forum and then formulate my picks. 

    Football, especially NFL is the only sport you can do this with and be very consistent.  I'm more of a baseball bettor and I do a ton of research for that, because there are actuall statistics and trends to research.  Its a long season and stats are huge in baseball, so it takes some time.  Plus you dont fade the public in baseball, its too long of a season and there are more veteren gamblers.   Baseball is a grind not like football, which is a sprint.  And that sprint alters everyones perception from week to week.  Football is more or less for action junkies with a few actual vets.   

    Football is a joke and whatever you think wont happen will happen.   The sooner you start to realize this, the better off you'll be in the long run.

    So...good luick with all your hours of meanigless research of an unpredictable football game

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 6:36 PM ET #85

     
    Quote Originally Posted by KScapping:

     

    Sport’s handicapping attracts lazy people.  Fact is, if you are reading this right now; 85% chance is that you are a lazy handicapper.  In fact, the vast majority of sports bettors would not qualify for the title of ‘Sports Handicapper’.  Look at how the average ‘Joe Blow’ handicaps a game.  He probably does not even have Direct TV’s NFL package, or any means to watch multiple games.  He watches the two early games, one late game, the Sunday night game, the Monday Night Football game, an hour of ESPN, and maybe an hour of NFL This Week.  That is what just about everybody—Squares— who bets on sports gets their information.   The lines are then set for those exact people that possess that exact information; they are the vast majority of people who will bet the upcoming weeks games—the Squares.  If everybody is using the same information to base their play decisions, the lines will eventually (sooner rather than later) move to exactly where the average sports bettor thinks the game will end up.   The ‘feel’ bettor is hilarious to a real handicapper.  The ‘feel’ bettor does not realize that the worst thing that can happen to him is to get his ‘feeling’ and have it just happen to come out correctly on the field; then he is fucked, because he now found “the formula” for success and will keep trying to get the ‘feel’ back.  Don’t get me wrong, real handicapper’s ‘feel’ is when he has pounded details, news, simulations, injury reports, locker room zeitgeist, and everything he could for a half a season; his ‘feeling’ is his subconscious proding him with information too vast for conscience recall.  The ONLY way to gain an edge is to work your ass off digging for every tid-bit of non-mainstream news that you can, dig into detailed stats (and not just Offensive rankings/yards, defensive rankings/yards, quarterback ratings, ect.  Be lazy and cap at fifty percent, pay someone who will dig the details up for you (a service), or plan on spending a few hours—or much more—digging into each game you play; you have no other options.


    so are you saying getting the nfl package will make you a better handicapper...............what a clown!



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    Sport’s handicapping attracts lazy people.  Fact is, if you are reading this right now; 85% chance is that you are a lazy handicapper.  In fact, the vast majority of sports bettors would not qualify for the title of ‘Sports Handicapper’.  Look at how the average ‘Joe Blow’ handicaps a game.  He probably does not even have Direct TV’s NFL package, or any means to watch multiple games.  He watches the two early games, one late game, the Sunday night game, the Monday Night Football game, an hour of ESPN, and maybe an hour of NFL This Week.  That is what just about everybody—Squares— who bets on sports gets their information.   The lines are then set for those exact people that possess that exact information; they are the vast majority of people who will bet the upcoming weeks games—the Squares.  If everybody is using the same information to base their play decisions, the lines will eventually (sooner rather than later) move to exactly where the average sports bettor thinks the game will end up.   The ‘feel’ bettor is hilarious to a real handicapper.  The ‘feel’ bettor does not realize that the worst thing that can happen to him is to get his ‘feeling’ and have it just happen to come out correctly on the field; then he is fucked, because he now found “the formula” for success and will keep trying to get the ‘feel’ back.  Don’t get me wrong, real handicapper’s ‘feel’ is when he has pounded details, news, simulations, injury reports, locker room zeitgeist, and everything he could for a half a season; his ‘feeling’ is his subconscious proding him with information too vast for conscience recall.  The ONLY way to gain an edge is to work your ass off digging for every tid-bit of non-mainstream news that you can, dig into detailed stats (and not just Offensive rankings/yards, defensive rankings/yards, quarterback ratings, ect.  Be lazy and cap at fifty percent, pay someone who will dig the details up for you (a service), or plan on spending a few hours—or much more—digging into each game you play; you have no other options.


    so are you saying getting the nfl package will make you a better handicapper...............what a clown!



     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 6:46 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by poolman11:

    all be in vegas in january we need to hook up and hang out you seem like a class act good write up again its refreshing to read a post that actually is a asset to this site
     just let me know when you are coming..we can tip a couple beers brutha...GL POOL
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    all be in vegas in january we need to hook up and hang out you seem like a class act good write up again its refreshing to read a post that actually is a asset to this site
     just let me know when you are coming..we can tip a couple beers brutha...GL POOL
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nfl_brosuf:

    good logic to what you say...

    Joe public is everywhere and sharps, they tend to keep it to themselves..

    So for next year, I am going to stand around the counter area and starting to get a survey to who people like...I then fade them, the joe public that tends to lose at the end of the season.  No capping skills needed.   If only it was that easy.

    ESPN and the media is what joe be watching to get his feed.  Whatever hype or images of a team being thrown out more, go the other way.   Once again, if only it was that easy.

    What easy is for folks to fade me because I'm fading material.  Let me do all the wrong capping for you and you will benefit it. 
     Buck Up bro... come up with a different plan.. and get a diff result... do research and follow a couple winning players until you are ready to jump back in.....
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    good logic to what you say...

    Joe public is everywhere and sharps, they tend to keep it to themselves..

    So for next year, I am going to stand around the counter area and starting to get a survey to who people like...I then fade them, the joe public that tends to lose at the end of the season.  No capping skills needed.   If only it was that easy.

    ESPN and the media is what joe be watching to get his feed.  Whatever hype or images of a team being thrown out more, go the other way.   Once again, if only it was that easy.

    What easy is for folks to fade me because I'm fading material.  Let me do all the wrong capping for you and you will benefit it. 
     Buck Up bro... come up with a different plan.. and get a diff result... do research and follow a couple winning players until you are ready to jump back in.....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 6:49 PM ET #88

    Quote Originally Posted by Mnkywrnch3535:


    500 on Jacksonville under 39 1/2
    I like the under in the Jacksonville Monday night game.  Besides the fact that the under is 6-0 in Jacksonvilles last 6 and 10-1 in their last 11 (the one that went over they lost and the total hits thanks to Cin, Jacksonville scored 20) and the under is 3-2 in SD last 5, Jacksonville does not score points in prime time games.  Neither team has scored more than 20 points in their last 3 games and Jacksonville has only scored more than 20 once in their last 6 games.  Jacksonville has the worse passer in the league and sticks to the run and SD has the 7th ranked passing D to embarass Gabbert.  Be expecting a running game, in other words a fast game!

    500 on St Johns -1
    St Johns -1 is a strong play.  Det has not covered in their last 8 games and St Johns is 3-3 in their last 6 vs the spread.  Look for St Johns to rebound after their loss to Kentucky and NE.  The front court for Detroit is a little thin because of injury and they are not deep on the bench.  Look for St Johns to pull away in the second half.

    500 on NHL Phoenix vs Chicago under 5 1/2
    These 2 teams have strong goal tednders and neither team is very storng on power plays.  Phoenix is in the top 5 in penalty kills percentage.  Phoenix games has stayed under in 4 out of their last 5, including a 4-1 win at Chicago on Nov 29th. 

    Other notable games:
    Austin P -5
    Providence under 139.5


    Fading you on the O/U bro..GL on your other tickets this week 
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    500 on Jacksonville under 39 1/2
    I like the under in the Jacksonville Monday night game.  Besides the fact that the under is 6-0 in Jacksonvilles last 6 and 10-1 in their last 11 (the one that went over they lost and the total hits thanks to Cin, Jacksonville scored 20) and the under is 3-2 in SD last 5, Jacksonville does not score points in prime time games.  Neither team has scored more than 20 points in their last 3 games and Jacksonville has only scored more than 20 once in their last 6 games.  Jacksonville has the worse passer in the league and sticks to the run and SD has the 7th ranked passing D to embarass Gabbert.  Be expecting a running game, in other words a fast game!

    500 on St Johns -1
    St Johns -1 is a strong play.  Det has not covered in their last 8 games and St Johns is 3-3 in their last 6 vs the spread.  Look for St Johns to rebound after their loss to Kentucky and NE.  The front court for Detroit is a little thin because of injury and they are not deep on the bench.  Look for St Johns to pull away in the second half.

    500 on NHL Phoenix vs Chicago under 5 1/2
    These 2 teams have strong goal tednders and neither team is very storng on power plays.  Phoenix is in the top 5 in penalty kills percentage.  Phoenix games has stayed under in 4 out of their last 5, including a 4-1 win at Chicago on Nov 29th. 

    Other notable games:
    Austin P -5
    Providence under 139.5


    Fading you on the O/U bro..GL on your other tickets this week 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatorbear:

    Thanks K. GL tonight.


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    Thanks K. GL tonight.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 6:50 PM ET #90

    does anyone even know a sharp....................they are figment of your imagination.



    name names!

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    does anyone even know a sharp....................they are figment of your imagination.



    name names!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 6:51 PM ET #91

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    so are you saying getting the nfl package will make you a better handicapper...............what a clown!



     No offense intended, but if that is the idea you gathered from this post...your reading retention skills are in need of work...GL 2 U 
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    so are you saying getting the nfl package will make you a better handicapper...............what a clown!



     No offense intended, but if that is the idea you gathered from this post...your reading retention skills are in need of work...GL 2 U 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 6:52 PM ET #92

    Quote Originally Posted by lewlew:

    does anyone even know a sharp....................they are figment of your imagination.



    name names!


    lol.... read the post.... how can you not believe 'they' exsist? 

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    does anyone even know a sharp....................they are figment of your imagination.



    name names!


    lol.... read the post.... how can you not believe 'they' exsist? 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 6:55 PM ET #93

    sharps bet both ways just like man on the strret does!
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 7:02 PM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by KScapping:


    Fading you on the O/U bro..GL on your other tickets this week 

    U too

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    Fading you on the O/U bro..GL on your other tickets this week 

    U too

     
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    First off, your  thread should be 'why casual sports bettors...' not  'why handicappers...' because by saying handicappers, that would include the people that are actually handicapping the game (ie vegas odds makers and so on..)  

    I do agree with you that a lot of people are lazy when they make their bets but a lot of the time people are just making bets for fun and dont really have time to do research or whatever. Losing or winning for these people doesnt affect their life and so on and that doesnt mean they are lazy. Its just for enjoyment that they bet on sports...

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    First off, your  thread should be 'why casual sports bettors...' not  'why handicappers...' because by saying handicappers, that would include the people that are actually handicapping the game (ie vegas odds makers and so on..)  

    I do agree with you that a lot of people are lazy when they make their bets but a lot of the time people are just making bets for fun and dont really have time to do research or whatever. Losing or winning for these people doesnt affect their life and so on and that doesnt mean they are lazy. Its just for enjoyment that they bet on sports...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyShot:

    First off, your  thread should be 'why casual sports bettors...' not  'why handicappers...' because by saying handicappers, that would include the people that are actually handicapping the game (ie vegas odds makers and so on..)  

    I do agree with you that a lot of people are lazy when they make their bets but a lot of the time people are just making bets for fun and dont really have time to do research or whatever. Losing or winning for these people doesnt affect their life and so on and that doesnt mean they are lazy. Its just for enjoyment that they bet on sports...

    AKA...ACTION JUNKIES

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    First off, your  thread should be 'why casual sports bettors...' not  'why handicappers...' because by saying handicappers, that would include the people that are actually handicapping the game (ie vegas odds makers and so on..)  

    I do agree with you that a lot of people are lazy when they make their bets but a lot of the time people are just making bets for fun and dont really have time to do research or whatever. Losing or winning for these people doesnt affect their life and so on and that doesnt mean they are lazy. Its just for enjoyment that they bet on sports...

    AKA...ACTION JUNKIES

     
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    This is the biggest crock I've ever read! Research this research that it doesn't mean anything except make u feel better at the time on ur play. Then it loses. Look stats, trends, percentages etc will not help u "cap" any game. Those #'s don't account for turnovers, penalties, injuries, good/bad play calling throughout the game. So spend countless hours "capping " games ......... or go with the one "system " that has NEVER failed and that's Vegas. Bet what they need and u win too!
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    This is the biggest crock I've ever read! Research this research that it doesn't mean anything except make u feel better at the time on ur play. Then it loses. Look stats, trends, percentages etc will not help u "cap" any game. Those #'s don't account for turnovers, penalties, injuries, good/bad play calling throughout the game. So spend countless hours "capping " games ......... or go with the one "system " that has NEVER failed and that's Vegas. Bet what they need and u win too!
     
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    Hey KS....Enjoyed reading your long post....I have been involved in football wagering for forty years....For half of those years, I took action....So, I got a lot of mileage and experience behind me....92 % of people who wager on pro football "lose in the long run!"....That's a fact!!..Successful bettors have 2 things in common...1.  They extremely limit the number  of plays they make, sometimes getting down but a few handfuls of action for the whole season....They may even skip a week or two....2....They all have a system that has been proven over the long run.    This of course ties in with number one....At the outset, years ago, I played 20-30 plays a week....As time went by, I read a lot, experienced a lot and in the process, learned tons....I admire you for all the research etc. that you do, your different angles etc....I  did it all and more....I greatly limit my plays, walk away from tons of games, and only get down when the game falls within my parameter(s)....Currently I am in the football contest on here done by "will bet anything."....I have 16 wins, 5 losses and one push....Out of hundreds, I sit fourth.....If you take notice, the other contestants all have many, many more plays than me....I did "not" play one game this entire weekend....I didn't have that 'feeling' that I must have, plus have it fall within my system..And I don't care what anyone thinks, you gotta have that 'feeling' too..That is learned 'over the years!'...Of course, it's taken for granted that one must have discipline and money management skills, and NEVER chase...I wish you lots of luck....Pro football is no picnic, but careful observation, experience, trial and error, research etc. can all help in showing a profit...As I said, I once did all that, but now I'm content with what I do.....My best to you!
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    Hey KS....Enjoyed reading your long post....I have been involved in football wagering for forty years....For half of those years, I took action....So, I got a lot of mileage and experience behind me....92 % of people who wager on pro football "lose in the long run!"....That's a fact!!..Successful bettors have 2 things in common...1.  They extremely limit the number  of plays they make, sometimes getting down but a few handfuls of action for the whole season....They may even skip a week or two....2....They all have a system that has been proven over the long run.    This of course ties in with number one....At the outset, years ago, I played 20-30 plays a week....As time went by, I read a lot, experienced a lot and in the process, learned tons....I admire you for all the research etc. that you do, your different angles etc....I  did it all and more....I greatly limit my plays, walk away from tons of games, and only get down when the game falls within my parameter(s)....Currently I am in the football contest on here done by "will bet anything."....I have 16 wins, 5 losses and one push....Out of hundreds, I sit fourth.....If you take notice, the other contestants all have many, many more plays than me....I did "not" play one game this entire weekend....I didn't have that 'feeling' that I must have, plus have it fall within my system..And I don't care what anyone thinks, you gotta have that 'feeling' too..That is learned 'over the years!'...Of course, it's taken for granted that one must have discipline and money management skills, and NEVER chase...I wish you lots of luck....Pro football is no picnic, but careful observation, experience, trial and error, research etc. can all help in showing a profit...As I said, I once did all that, but now I'm content with what I do.....My best to you!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeet59:

    This is the biggest crock I've ever read! Research this research that it doesn't mean anything except make u feel better at the time on ur play. Then it loses. Look stats, trends, percentages etc will not help u "cap" any game. Those #'s don't account for turnovers, penalties, injuries, good/bad play calling throughout the game. So spend countless hours "capping " games ......... or go with the one "system " that has NEVER failed and that's Vegas. Bet what they need and u win too!

    Boom

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    This is the biggest crock I've ever read! Research this research that it doesn't mean anything except make u feel better at the time on ur play. Then it loses. Look stats, trends, percentages etc will not help u "cap" any game. Those #'s don't account for turnovers, penalties, injuries, good/bad play calling throughout the game. So spend countless hours "capping " games ......... or go with the one "system " that has NEVER failed and that's Vegas. Bet what they need and u win too!

    Boom

     
     
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    Just printed it neighbor!!!
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