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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 4:20 PM ET #26

    We all wait for the right "spots", and, gentlemen, this is one of them.  The Manning followers and upset 49ers fans are all over Denver.  Plus the "well, they're not playing at home " thinking for Seattle.   All this clouds the reality that the Seattle defense is stronger, and their offense can do what is required to take down Denver.   Go with points or ML.  Bank it. 
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    We all wait for the right "spots", and, gentlemen, this is one of them.  The Manning followers and upset 49ers fans are all over Denver.  Plus the "well, they're not playing at home " thinking for Seattle.   All this clouds the reality that the Seattle defense is stronger, and their offense can do what is required to take down Denver.   Go with points or ML.  Bank it. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 4:45 PM ET #27

    tb scored 24 against them
    houston 20
    indy 34
    they lost to az ,beat rams 14-9 and car 12-7
    I"ll go to war with payton a healthy welker and his other great weapons REMEMBER no ones better at reading other teams defenses and taking advantage than payton
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    tb scored 24 against them
    houston 20
    indy 34
    they lost to az ,beat rams 14-9 and car 12-7
    I"ll go to war with payton a healthy welker and his other great weapons REMEMBER no ones better at reading other teams defenses and taking advantage than payton
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 5:16 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by EDDIEW:

    tb scored 24 against them
    houston 20
    indy 34
    they lost to az ,beat rams 14-9 and car 12-7
    I"ll go to war with payton a healthy welker and his other great weapons REMEMBER no ones better at reading other teams defenses and taking advantage than payton

    That really hasnt translated in playoff success because football is a team sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDDIEW:

    tb scored 24 against them
    houston 20
    indy 34
    they lost to az ,beat rams 14-9 and car 12-7
    I"ll go to war with payton a healthy welker and his other great weapons REMEMBER no ones better at reading other teams defenses and taking advantage than payton

    That really hasnt translated in playoff success because football is a team sport.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 5:26 PM ET #29

    yes it is sir and did you notice welker decker and new guys coming up strong on offense ?  think den has more weapons on O and D than before  and don't think seattle is capable of staying with them 
    I had SF and Brady sun ,,,so I'm due lol
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    yes it is sir and did you notice welker decker and new guys coming up strong on offense ?  think den has more weapons on O and D than before  and don't think seattle is capable of staying with them 
    I had SF and Brady sun ,,,so I'm due lol
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 5:33 PM ET #30

    Best call EVER!!    Putting my house, life savings, wife and kids on HEADS   on the coin toss!!!    
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    Best call EVER!!    Putting my house, life savings, wife and kids on HEADS   on the coin toss!!!    
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 6:22 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    Dont worry aboit Seattles offense.....you should be focised on the weakest unit in this game: Denvers defense


    In the 1st 3 quarters vs Rivers & Chargers... 0 points given up
    1st 3 Q's vs Brady & Pats... 3 points given up

    these are playoff teams that Broncos held without a touchdown for 90 minutes of the playing clock.

    Last week, i questioned if Denver D is over-rated... I don't anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    Dont worry aboit Seattles offense.....you should be focised on the weakest unit in this game: Denvers defense


    In the 1st 3 quarters vs Rivers & Chargers... 0 points given up
    1st 3 Q's vs Brady & Pats... 3 points given up

    these are playoff teams that Broncos held without a touchdown for 90 minutes of the playing clock.

    Last week, i questioned if Denver D is over-rated... I don't anymore.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 7:38 PM ET #32

    Every game is different, some good teams get beat or do just enough to win in a 16 season game, and don't know that we can really use some of those close games win or lose as a measuring stick in betting the Super Bowl, we all know that! Seattle kicked a lot of field goals in the game against SF, and we won't talk about the one they left one the 1 yard line when they never should of had the ball in the first place! They could of scored more TDs on SF, Just saying! And Denver killed the amazing Patriots, but how good were the Pats this year really compared to what people think when they hear NE Patriots! Think AMD has a good bet, and people will continue to bet the Broncos. GL everyone!
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    Every game is different, some good teams get beat or do just enough to win in a 16 season game, and don't know that we can really use some of those close games win or lose as a measuring stick in betting the Super Bowl, we all know that! Seattle kicked a lot of field goals in the game against SF, and we won't talk about the one they left one the 1 yard line when they never should of had the ball in the first place! They could of scored more TDs on SF, Just saying! And Denver killed the amazing Patriots, but how good were the Pats this year really compared to what people think when they hear NE Patriots! Think AMD has a good bet, and people will continue to bet the Broncos. GL everyone!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 7:43 PM ET #33

    Who did Denver defeat in the playoffs so far?  Answer, a San Diego team that miraculously made the playoffs then lost their stud running running back due to injury in the first round.  Then a Patriot team that was decimated with injuries.  I'm still amazed at how many wins the Pats racked up this year.

    Who did Seattle defeat in the playoffs so far?  Answer, The Saints, who boast one of the most prolific offenses in the game, not only beat them, but beat them twice.  Then a 49er team that was healthy with arguably the best defense in football.  I believe Seattle beat them twice as well.

    Manning is great, but the fact of the matter is the AFC pales in comparison.

    Seahawks ML
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    Who did Denver defeat in the playoffs so far?  Answer, a San Diego team that miraculously made the playoffs then lost their stud running running back due to injury in the first round.  Then a Patriot team that was decimated with injuries.  I'm still amazed at how many wins the Pats racked up this year.

    Who did Seattle defeat in the playoffs so far?  Answer, The Saints, who boast one of the most prolific offenses in the game, not only beat them, but beat them twice.  Then a 49er team that was healthy with arguably the best defense in football.  I believe Seattle beat them twice as well.

    Manning is great, but the fact of the matter is the AFC pales in comparison.

    Seahawks ML
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 8:06 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride:

    Best call EVER!!    Putting my house, life savings, wife and kids on HEADS   on the coin toss!!!    

    Doubt you would want two wives if you won.  I wouldn't bet her....
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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride:

    Best call EVER!!    Putting my house, life savings, wife and kids on HEADS   on the coin toss!!!    

    Doubt you would want two wives if you won.  I wouldn't bet her....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 8:13 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by CC12:

    In the 1st 3 quarters vs Rivers & Chargers... 0 points given up
    1st 3 Q's vs Brady & Pats... 3 points given up

    these are playoff teams that Broncos held without a touchdown for 90 minutes of the playing clock.

    Last week, i questioned if Denver D is over-rated... I don't anymore.

    SD was on b2b roadies and denver was at home for both. Now add that SD and NE dont have near the defense Seattle does and you can negate some of the field position battle denever has been winning. Denever has been settling for fgs because once in the red zone they are much less effective. Mannings armn is obviously weaker than it used to be, so Seattle doesnt really have to worry about the deep ball (especially if its cold in 2 weeks). Decker and Thomas arent very fast, so getting open is gonna be an issue.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by CC12:

    In the 1st 3 quarters vs Rivers & Chargers... 0 points given up
    1st 3 Q's vs Brady & Pats... 3 points given up

    these are playoff teams that Broncos held without a touchdown for 90 minutes of the playing clock.

    Last week, i questioned if Denver D is over-rated... I don't anymore.

    SD was on b2b roadies and denver was at home for both. Now add that SD and NE dont have near the defense Seattle does and you can negate some of the field position battle denever has been winning. Denever has been settling for fgs because once in the red zone they are much less effective. Mannings armn is obviously weaker than it used to be, so Seattle doesnt really have to worry about the deep ball (especially if its cold in 2 weeks). Decker and Thomas arent very fast, so getting open is gonna be an issue.

     

    bol

     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 8:36 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by EDDIEW:

    D wins championships???
    TB 24
    HOUSTON 20
    IND 34
    away from home seattle outside of shutting out the weak giants is nothing real special and if I'm not in error the might rams lost to them 14-9.........again ,you think no 12th man doesn't mean anything?

    Tell me who else lost in Indy because their are several solid teams on that list, maybe even Denver. Also, feel that Houston was a completely diff team at that time and the heartbreaking loss @ home to these very Hawks sent them into a tailspin rest of year, but thats me. GL with whatever U take tho!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDDIEW:

    D wins championships???
    TB 24
    HOUSTON 20
    IND 34
    away from home seattle outside of shutting out the weak giants is nothing real special and if I'm not in error the might rams lost to them 14-9.........again ,you think no 12th man doesn't mean anything?

    Tell me who else lost in Indy because their are several solid teams on that list, maybe even Denver. Also, feel that Houston was a completely diff team at that time and the heartbreaking loss @ home to these very Hawks sent them into a tailspin rest of year, but thats me. GL with whatever U take tho!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 9:19 PM ET #37

    Hey AMD, always value your opinion..

    How do you think this game will differ than the one where Manning won his first super bowl against Chicago?

    Seems like a lot of similarities imo.  Dominant defense, inexperienced QB, great special teams.  

    We know how that one turned out, how do you think this one differs?

    Thanks for your insight bud.
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    Hey AMD, always value your opinion..

    How do you think this game will differ than the one where Manning won his first super bowl against Chicago?

    Seems like a lot of similarities imo.  Dominant defense, inexperienced QB, great special teams.  

    We know how that one turned out, how do you think this one differs?

    Thanks for your insight bud.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 10:07 PM ET #38

    GL AMD!
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    GL AMD!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 10:40 PM ET #39

    Manning hasn't even used much of his arm thanks to Fox's conservativeness throughout the playoffs.  I've seen a lot of short to mid range throws.  Plus, his jersey has been clean throughout the entire playoffs.  He's 100%.

    Decker is not slow, not quick.  D Thomas is quick. 

    GL on your pick AMD

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    Manning hasn't even used much of his arm thanks to Fox's conservativeness throughout the playoffs.  I've seen a lot of short to mid range throws.  Plus, his jersey has been clean throughout the entire playoffs.  He's 100%.

    Decker is not slow, not quick.  D Thomas is quick. 

    GL on your pick AMD

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 1:53 AM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by flyinghawks:

    Hey AMD, always value your opinion..

    How do you think this game will differ than the one where Manning won his first super bowl against Chicago?

    Seems like a lot of similarities imo.  Dominant defense, inexperienced QB, great special teams.  

    We know how that one turned out, how do you think this one differs?

    Thanks for your insight bud.

    Its great to see all of these posts in the thread....great football talk. Im looking forward to responding to most of them within the next day or so. Thanks for your post, flyinghawks, nice point youve made regarding the Bears/Colts comparison. We can talk about that game as well as the AFC Championship game when the Steelers took Mannings audibles in Indianapolis and shoved them up his asss. Im at work now but we'll be talking soon 
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinghawks:

    Hey AMD, always value your opinion..

    How do you think this game will differ than the one where Manning won his first super bowl against Chicago?

    Seems like a lot of similarities imo.  Dominant defense, inexperienced QB, great special teams.  

    We know how that one turned out, how do you think this one differs?

    Thanks for your insight bud.

    Its great to see all of these posts in the thread....great football talk. Im looking forward to responding to most of them within the next day or so. Thanks for your post, flyinghawks, nice point youve made regarding the Bears/Colts comparison. We can talk about that game as well as the AFC Championship game when the Steelers took Mannings audibles in Indianapolis and shoved them up his asss. Im at work now but we'll be talking soon 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 4:17 AM ET #41

    Lol i dont know where u got 3
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    Lol i dont know where u got 3
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 4:28 AM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrstreaks:

    Lol i dont know where u got 3

    Hey numbnut, read much? I already stated Sportsbook. Look at the timestamp in the post and call Sportsbook for yourself to see when they posted 3...... 800-632-6088.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrstreaks:

    Lol i dont know where u got 3

    Hey numbnut, read much? I already stated Sportsbook. Look at the timestamp in the post and call Sportsbook for yourself to see when they posted 3...... 800-632-6088.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 5:02 AM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride:

    Best call EVER!!    Putting my house, life savings, wife and kids on HEADS   on the coin toss!!!    


    I dont play many props but the coin toss is the one bet I make every year. It has the best odds of any sporting wager...a true 50/50 without any elements. They did studies on a commemorative coin and the details or enscrytion had the heads side  a few oz lighter than the tails side. They use different coins every year but it was interesting that they actually study the fukking coin for the coin toss of the SB. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride:

    Best call EVER!!    Putting my house, life savings, wife and kids on HEADS   on the coin toss!!!    


    I dont play many props but the coin toss is the one bet I make every year. It has the best odds of any sporting wager...a true 50/50 without any elements. They did studies on a commemorative coin and the details or enscrytion had the heads side  a few oz lighter than the tails side. They use different coins every year but it was interesting that they actually study the fukking coin for the coin toss of the SB. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 5:03 AM ET #44

    *grams
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    *grams
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 5:11 AM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by Slick100:

    Manning hasn't even used much of his arm thanks to Fox's conservativeness throughout the playoffs.  I've seen a lot of short to mid range throws.  Plus, his jersey has been clean throughout the entire playoffs.  He's 100%.

    Decker is not slow, not quick.  D Thomas is quick. 

    GL on your pick AMD


    Hes been upright because of the defensive schemes. Manning is the least blitzed QB in the league for a reason. Hes a master of check downs to his 3rd and 4th reads. Seattle is so good in their secondary that Seattle will be able to come with some blitz packages which will suit Seattle against a statue in the pocket. We understand that Denver has weapons but you need to also understand that Seattles defensive packages arent going to be anything close to what the Patriots and Chargers used. This is elementary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick100:

    Manning hasn't even used much of his arm thanks to Fox's conservativeness throughout the playoffs.  I've seen a lot of short to mid range throws.  Plus, his jersey has been clean throughout the entire playoffs.  He's 100%.

    Decker is not slow, not quick.  D Thomas is quick. 

    GL on your pick AMD


    Hes been upright because of the defensive schemes. Manning is the least blitzed QB in the league for a reason. Hes a master of check downs to his 3rd and 4th reads. Seattle is so good in their secondary that Seattle will be able to come with some blitz packages which will suit Seattle against a statue in the pocket. We understand that Denver has weapons but you need to also understand that Seattles defensive packages arent going to be anything close to what the Patriots and Chargers used. This is elementary.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 5:28 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by EDDIEW:

    tb scored 24 against them
    houston 20
    indy 34
    they lost to az ,beat rams 14-9 and car 12-7
    I"ll go to war with payton a healthy welker and his other great weapons REMEMBER no ones better at reading other teams defenses and taking advantage than payton

    Eddie....I thought you wouldve already learned by now that these regular season stats are relatively meaningless in regards to a high profile playoff game or SB. You used this method for the Bengals against the Chargers and it didnt work out so well, did it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDDIEW:

    tb scored 24 against them
    houston 20
    indy 34
    they lost to az ,beat rams 14-9 and car 12-7
    I"ll go to war with payton a healthy welker and his other great weapons REMEMBER no ones better at reading other teams defenses and taking advantage than payton

    Eddie....I thought you wouldve already learned by now that these regular season stats are relatively meaningless in regards to a high profile playoff game or SB. You used this method for the Bengals against the Chargers and it didnt work out so well, did it?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 5:35 AM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by CC12:

    In the 1st 3 quarters vs Rivers & Chargers... 0 points given up
    1st 3 Q's vs Brady & Pats... 3 points given up

    these are playoff teams that Broncos held without a touchdown for 90 minutes of the playing clock.

    Last week, i questioned if Denver D is over-rated... I don't anymore.

    Im absolutely amazed at how many gamblers use the betting logic of what a team did last week or two months ago, for that matter. Doesnt anyone bet according to head to head matchups anymore? Seattles team is nothing like the Patriots or Chargers so why would Denvers pts against last week mean so much to you for the SB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CC12:

    In the 1st 3 quarters vs Rivers & Chargers... 0 points given up
    1st 3 Q's vs Brady & Pats... 3 points given up

    these are playoff teams that Broncos held without a touchdown for 90 minutes of the playing clock.

    Last week, i questioned if Denver D is over-rated... I don't anymore.

    Im absolutely amazed at how many gamblers use the betting logic of what a team did last week or two months ago, for that matter. Doesnt anyone bet according to head to head matchups anymore? Seattles team is nothing like the Patriots or Chargers so why would Denvers pts against last week mean so much to you for the SB?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 5:42 AM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by cpsn:

    lol nice

    doubt it ever hits three at my books though

    I hit +3 as soon as it came out on Sportsbook. Funny thing is when fellas see that youve posted a great number, they automatically think youre making shitt up. I dont make shitt up. Not only am I catching 3, Im catching 3 with a team thats going to win the game. Ill take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpsn:

    lol nice

    doubt it ever hits three at my books though

    I hit +3 as soon as it came out on Sportsbook. Funny thing is when fellas see that youve posted a great number, they automatically think youre making shitt up. I dont make shitt up. Not only am I catching 3, Im catching 3 with a team thats going to win the game. Ill take it.
     
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    AMD - stop making shitt up...lol just kidding.

    I am torn on this game.

    SEA: An offense that can get the job done, through no stand out WR, which makes them all dangerous and a RB who beats you down until you break. Their D is second to none, from their DL, LB and DB...just solid.

    DEN: An offense that can be limited but not stopped as they are just too deep - 4 strong (Thomas x 2, Welker & Decker). Not to mention the check downs to Ball or Moreno. With options to Caldwell and Tamme.  DEN D has been warming up leading into the playoffs and boast a strong RUN D that needs to limit Lynch's bust out runs that swing momentum. Their secondary is average.

    Defense wins championships and I can't stand these Hawks, but I believe you are on the right side. There was a question above about the Bears/Colts. As a Bears fan, their D was strong, but Sea is better/complete throughout. Bears offense was below average and our QB sucked. Colts offense was too much for the Bears that year.

    I believe this year it comes down to:

    1. Can Den D limit Lynch and not let him bust out a crazy run that shifts momentum?  I say no. Lynch is too much of a big game back.

    2. Can Sea secondary cover all the Den weapons? While SF boasts 3 strong receiving options, Den boasts 4. I say no. Peyton will make adjustments and matchups and focus on this. I also saw that Den can expose Earl Thomas. He is good, but short.

    Special Teams are a wash. Kickers are a wash. 

    IMO, this game smells like an over and falls within 3 points. I don't know who wins as my mind and heart continue to battle :)

    Good Luck AMD.
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    AMD - stop making shitt up...lol just kidding.

    I am torn on this game.

    SEA: An offense that can get the job done, through no stand out WR, which makes them all dangerous and a RB who beats you down until you break. Their D is second to none, from their DL, LB and DB...just solid.

    DEN: An offense that can be limited but not stopped as they are just too deep - 4 strong (Thomas x 2, Welker & Decker). Not to mention the check downs to Ball or Moreno. With options to Caldwell and Tamme.  DEN D has been warming up leading into the playoffs and boast a strong RUN D that needs to limit Lynch's bust out runs that swing momentum. Their secondary is average.

    Defense wins championships and I can't stand these Hawks, but I believe you are on the right side. There was a question above about the Bears/Colts. As a Bears fan, their D was strong, but Sea is better/complete throughout. Bears offense was below average and our QB sucked. Colts offense was too much for the Bears that year.

    I believe this year it comes down to:

    1. Can Den D limit Lynch and not let him bust out a crazy run that shifts momentum?  I say no. Lynch is too much of a big game back.

    2. Can Sea secondary cover all the Den weapons? While SF boasts 3 strong receiving options, Den boasts 4. I say no. Peyton will make adjustments and matchups and focus on this. I also saw that Den can expose Earl Thomas. He is good, but short.

    Special Teams are a wash. Kickers are a wash. 

    IMO, this game smells like an over and falls within 3 points. I don't know who wins as my mind and heart continue to battle :)

    Good Luck AMD.
     
     
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