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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2021 - 8:11 PM ET #1

    AFC matchups have been decided.

    Matchups are my lines, NOT the lines that I think Vegas should put out.

    Bills -7  Colts 51

    Titans +2' Ravens 52

    Steelers -3 Browns 47

     

    Saints -9 Bears 49

    Seahawks -3' Rams 42'

    Football Team +3' Bucs  43

    Giants +8 Bucs 42

     

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    AFC matchups have been decided.

    Matchups are my lines, NOT the lines that I think Vegas should put out.

    Bills -7  Colts 51

    Titans +2' Ravens 52

    Steelers -3 Browns 47

     

    Saints -9 Bears 49

    Seahawks -3' Rams 42'

    Football Team +3' Bucs  43

    Giants +8 Bucs 42

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2021 - 8:13 PM ET #2

    pretty close peace_5

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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2021 - 8:15 PM ET #3

    Yeah - agree - pretty close.

    Steelers will be more than 3
    Saints should be 10+
    Either NYG or Wash will be a 6 or so dog

     

    Anyone seeing actual bettable lines yet?

     
     
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    Yeah - agree - pretty close.

    Steelers will be more than 3
    Saints should be 10+
    Either NYG or Wash will be a 6 or so dog

     

    Anyone seeing actual bettable lines yet?

     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2021 - 8:20 PM ET #4

    Teasing Saints and Bucks will be my biggest play. I think the AFC games will be close, as will Seattle and Rams.peace_5

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    Teasing Saints and Bucks will be my biggest play. I think the AFC games will be close, as will Seattle and Rams.peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Yeah - agree - pretty close. Steelers will be more than 3Saints should be 10+Either NYG or Wash will be a 6 or so dog   Anyone seeing actual bettable lines yet?

    betonline has Pitt -4, Balt -3, Bills -7

    and just this minute Balt is -3.5 now, and they added Saints -9, Seahawks -3.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Yeah - agree - pretty close. Steelers will be more than 3Saints should be 10+Either NYG or Wash will be a 6 or so dog   Anyone seeing actual bettable lines yet?

    betonline has Pitt -4, Balt -3, Bills -7

    and just this minute Balt is -3.5 now, and they added Saints -9, Seahawks -3.5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2021 - 8:31 PM ET #6

    Thanks DK

    peace_5

     
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    Thanks DK

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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2021 - 8:38 PM ET #7

    AFC play on Saturday? And NFC on Sunday?

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    AFC play on Saturday? And NFC on Sunday?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2021 - 8:56 PM ET #8

    Lines are out by betonline.com.

    Mine in brackets...no totals yet.

    1)   Bills -6'             (-7)

    2)   Steelers -4       (-3)

    3)   Titans +3'        (+2').....looks like I am not alone in my crush on the Ravens.

    4)   Seahawks -4'   (-3')

    5)   Saints -8'        (-9)

     

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    Lines are out by betonline.com.

    Mine in brackets...no totals yet.

    1)   Bills -6'             (-7)

    2)   Steelers -4       (-3)

    3)   Titans +3'        (+2').....looks like I am not alone in my crush on the Ravens.

    4)   Seahawks -4'   (-3')

    5)   Saints -8'        (-9)

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2021 - 9:09 PM ET #9

    can these vegas lines come out sooner im ready to pounce on a few of them!

     

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    can these vegas lines come out sooner im ready to pounce on a few of them!

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2021 - 9:24 PM ET #10

    I'm wondering whether any of the usual angles that people cite about Wild Card Weekend will still apply with the new format this year. Ordinarily dogs do well in WCW, favorites have the edge the following week. With the #2 now in play in the first weekend...

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    I'm wondering whether any of the usual angles that people cite about Wild Card Weekend will still apply with the new format this year. Ordinarily dogs do well in WCW, favorites have the edge the following week. With the #2 now in play in the first weekend...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2021 - 9:33 PM ET #11

    Westgate has Ravens -4.5, wow.

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    Westgate has Ravens -4.5, wow.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalkarma:

    Westgate has Ravens -4.5, wow.

    they opened it a little higher than i was expecting. Betonline and Westgate have converged on -4 now. hmmm 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalkarma:

    Westgate has Ravens -4.5, wow.

    they opened it a little higher than i was expecting. Betonline and Westgate have converged on -4 now. hmmm 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2021 - 10:10 PM ET #13

    I'm in on BUF -6.5, CLE +4 and TEN +3.5

    The pen is mightier than the pigs
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    I'm in on BUF -6.5, CLE +4 and TEN +3.5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2021 - 10:10 PM ET #14

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    Hard to know GT....we're all just winging it this season.

     

    Here's an angle predicated on season long stats, which haven't been updated,...if they've changed when I check tomorrow I'll let everyone know.

    1. Teams with the better average yards per pass differential between the two teams have been 14-6 ATS as away dogs in first round games.....Browns, Rams.

    2a) Teams with the yards per pass differential advantage as home favorites on Saturday in the first round have been 30-11 ATS......Bills

    b) however they've been only 15-25 ATS as home favorites on Sundays.....Saints

    3)  Home dogs in the wildcard round have been 5-2 ATS on Saturdays...... Giants/Washington and 3-7-1 on Sundays....Titans

     

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    Hard to know GT....we're all just winging it this season.

     

    Here's an angle predicated on season long stats, which haven't been updated,...if they've changed when I check tomorrow I'll let everyone know.

    1. Teams with the better average yards per pass differential between the two teams have been 14-6 ATS as away dogs in first round games.....Browns, Rams.

    2a) Teams with the yards per pass differential advantage as home favorites on Saturday in the first round have been 30-11 ATS......Bills

    b) however they've been only 15-25 ATS as home favorites on Sundays.....Saints

    3)  Home dogs in the wildcard round have been 5-2 ATS on Saturdays...... Giants/Washington and 3-7-1 on Sundays....Titans

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2021 - 10:19 PM ET #15

    Teams not making the playoffs the season prior....

    Home favorites on Sunday 6-15 ATS....Steelers

    Away dogs on Sunday.....12-7 ATS.......Bears, Browns

    Away dogs on Saturday....10-14 ATS....Rams

     

    Teams making the playoffs last season....

    Home favorites on Saturday....24-13 ATS.....Seahawks, Bills

    Home favorites on Sunday.....18-25 ATS......Saints

     

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    Teams not making the playoffs the season prior....

    Home favorites on Sunday 6-15 ATS....Steelers

    Away dogs on Sunday.....12-7 ATS.......Bears, Browns

    Away dogs on Saturday....10-14 ATS....Rams

     

    Teams making the playoffs last season....

    Home favorites on Saturday....24-13 ATS.....Seahawks, Bills

    Home favorites on Sunday.....18-25 ATS......Saints

     

     
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    Yeah, winging it for sure. Interesting angles. The Saturday/Sunday splits are weird. I'm not sure who a shorter week should favor, faves or dogs.

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    Yeah, winging it for sure. Interesting angles. The Saturday/Sunday splits are weird. I'm not sure who a shorter week should favor, faves or dogs.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2021 - 10:48 PM ET #17

    Plays:

    1)  Bills -6'

    2)  Browns +3'

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    Plays:

    1)  Bills -6'

    2)  Browns +3'

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2021 - 11:24 PM ET #18

    Home playoff teams in game number 17 where neither team made the playoffs last season have been 9-18 ATS as home favorites...Steelers.........and 0-4-1 ATS as home dogs.....Washington

    Those home dogs in this situation have lost by an average of 14.40 points/game.

     

    Game number 17 home playoff favorites where neither team made the playoffs last season and the home favorite had the lesser yards per pass differential have been 0-10-2 ATS (-10.00) and 3-9 straight up (-6.75).....Steelers

    game number=17 and tpS(playoffs)=0 and opS(playoffs)=0 and HF and tA(YPPA-o:YPPA)-oA(YPPA-o:YPPA)<0

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    Home playoff teams in game number 17 where neither team made the playoffs last season have been 9-18 ATS as home favorites...Steelers.........and 0-4-1 ATS as home dogs.....Washington

    Those home dogs in this situation have lost by an average of 14.40 points/game.

     

    Game number 17 home playoff favorites where neither team made the playoffs last season and the home favorite had the lesser yards per pass differential have been 0-10-2 ATS (-10.00) and 3-9 straight up (-6.75).....Steelers

    game number=17 and tpS(playoffs)=0 and opS(playoffs)=0 and HF and tA(YPPA-o:YPPA)-oA(YPPA-o:YPPA)<0

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2021 - 4:46 AM ET #19

    You are making my CLV team look like a live dog.  I don't know how to query for the quick rematch in the next game.  Help, please.

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    You are making my CLV team look like a live dog.  I don't know how to query for the quick rematch in the next game.  Help, please.

     
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    On second thought, that query probably won't have much value because the sample size will be so small.

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    On second thought, that query probably won't have much value because the sample size will be so small.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    On second thought, that query probably won't have much value because the sample size will be so small.
    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    You are making my CLV team look like a live dog.  I don't know how to query for the quick rematch in the next game.  Help, please.

    @DogbiteWilliams

     Here is the query for playing a team back to back.....

    po:team=o:team

    which has been 7-7 ATS in the playoffs, though only 1-5 ATS when the team is an away dog

    playoffs=1 and AD and po:team=o:team

    Re-thinking my Browns play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    On second thought, that query probably won't have much value because the sample size will be so small.
    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    You are making my CLV team look like a live dog.  I don't know how to query for the quick rematch in the next game.  Help, please.

    @DogbiteWilliams

     Here is the query for playing a team back to back.....

    po:team=o:team

    which has been 7-7 ATS in the playoffs, though only 1-5 ATS when the team is an away dog

    playoffs=1 and AD and po:team=o:team

    Re-thinking my Browns play.

     
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    @DogbiteWilliams

     

    On the other hand we have an away week 17 dog that won their previous matchup with the same opponent at home, and their this week's line is 7 points bigger than the previous game's line between the two teams......9-2 ATS.

    playoffs=1 and line-P:line>7 and P:HW and game number

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    On the other hand we have an away week 17 dog that won their previous matchup with the same opponent at home, and their this week's line is 7 points bigger than the previous game's line between the two teams......9-2 ATS.

    playoffs=1 and line-P:line>7 and P:HW and game number

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2021 - 6:53 AM ET #23

    Post #22 above should read "game number=17", NOT week 17.

    playoffs = 1 and P:W and AD and game number = 17 and line - P:line > 7

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    Post #22 above should read "game number=17", NOT week 17.

    playoffs = 1 and P:W and AD and game number = 17 and line - P:line > 7

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2021 - 7:56 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    On second thought, that query probably won't have much value because the sample size will be so small.

    The only couple of those that I can remember off the top of my head featured one team already in who played their scrubs and shrank their playbook. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    On second thought, that query probably won't have much value because the sample size will be so small.

    The only couple of those that I can remember off the top of my head featured one team already in who played their scrubs and shrank their playbook. 

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2021 - 8:02 AM ET #25

    I will be playing the Rams only IF Wolford is the announced starting qb. 

    No play if Goff is the starter.....him and Wentz should be benchwarmers.

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    I will be playing the Rams only IF Wolford is the announced starting qb. 

    No play if Goff is the starter.....him and Wentz should be benchwarmers.

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