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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 4:12 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by tech65:

    @Ed-Collins  you know they are faking all those broken bones and life crippling injuries.
     

    Um, pro wrestling gets injured too.

    It's physical. People get injured. How the hell is that are argument against it? 

    But yes, plenty of injuries are still fake.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech65:

    @Ed-Collins  you know they are faking all those broken bones and life crippling injuries.
     

    Um, pro wrestling gets injured too.

    It's physical. People get injured. How the hell is that are argument against it? 

    But yes, plenty of injuries are still fake.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 4:16 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by 7out:

    What’s hilarious is that we didn’t have ridiculous accusations that games where rigged until recently(2016). All these conspiracy theories and misinformation has really spread into the mainstream unfortunately. Critical thinking requires you to keep an opened mind but requires evidence to get to the truth. Without proof/evidence it simply isn’t true.
     

    Lol at using cliche trendy words like misinformation.

    The fact is people have known for decades. It's usually when they get older and realize they keep seeing the same things over and over.

    2016?  No, you just started paying attention then and the internet let others communicate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7out:

    What’s hilarious is that we didn’t have ridiculous accusations that games where rigged until recently(2016). All these conspiracy theories and misinformation has really spread into the mainstream unfortunately. Critical thinking requires you to keep an opened mind but requires evidence to get to the truth. Without proof/evidence it simply isn’t true.
     

    Lol at using cliche trendy words like misinformation.

    The fact is people have known for decades. It's usually when they get older and realize they keep seeing the same things over and over.

    2016?  No, you just started paying attention then and the internet let others communicate it

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 4:31 PM ET #53

    You know what's amusing...Chic is gonna be a COVERS LEGEND one of these days...not by posting plays, but by trying to tear down the NFL...on a site that promotes wagering on the NFL (and other pro sports).  Funny chit, Chic.

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    You know what's amusing...Chic is gonna be a COVERS LEGEND one of these days...not by posting plays, but by trying to tear down the NFL...on a site that promotes wagering on the NFL (and other pro sports).  Funny chit, Chic.

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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 4:39 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by DB51daBEARS:

    You know what's amusing...Chic is gonna be a COVERS LEGEND one of these days...not by posting plays, but by trying to tear down the NFL...on a site that promotes wagering on the NFL (and other pro sports).  Funny chit, Chic.
     

    Again with pointless remark. Who's trying to tear down anything? 

    I'm simply stating reality.

    The nfl told you they are entertainment in the first place. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB51daBEARS:

    You know what's amusing...Chic is gonna be a COVERS LEGEND one of these days...not by posting plays, but by trying to tear down the NFL...on a site that promotes wagering on the NFL (and other pro sports).  Funny chit, Chic.
     

    Again with pointless remark. Who's trying to tear down anything? 

    I'm simply stating reality.

    The nfl told you they are entertainment in the first place. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 5:04 PM ET #55

    Bengals-jets - unnecessary roughness on perfect defensive play

    I'm watching football for over 50 years-that could have been the worst call I've ever seen.  Offensive player was not a QB.lowered his head into a defensive player ,who was in perfect position to make a textbook tackle and that  incompetent referee  calls unnecessary roughness- ,with the game on the line.I don't care about this helmet to helmet nonsense-that was a perfect defensive play Best solution TAKE THE HELMETS OFF THE PLAYERS - I'm more upset with myself for betting on this horrendously bad league that most of the teams are coached horribly and the games are officiated horrendously.Game after game is decided by poor officiating, incorrect instant replay overturns ,,poor coaching , and situations that seam "scripted". I've seen enough of this garbage - I'll watch football all day saturday -  take care all -stay safe

     
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    Bengals-jets - unnecessary roughness on perfect defensive play

    I'm watching football for over 50 years-that could have been the worst call I've ever seen.  Offensive player was not a QB.lowered his head into a defensive player ,who was in perfect position to make a textbook tackle and that  incompetent referee  calls unnecessary roughness- ,with the game on the line.I don't care about this helmet to helmet nonsense-that was a perfect defensive play Best solution TAKE THE HELMETS OFF THE PLAYERS - I'm more upset with myself for betting on this horrendously bad league that most of the teams are coached horribly and the games are officiated horrendously.Game after game is decided by poor officiating, incorrect instant replay overturns ,,poor coaching , and situations that seam "scripted". I've seen enough of this garbage - I'll watch football all day saturday -  take care all -stay safe

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 5:08 PM ET #56

    Tonight after the last nfl game of the weekend Fred Roggin has a segment in which he shows the most exciting High school high lights of the week. Literally every week. Now, you are assuming that I just started recently paying attention when in fact I’ve been paying attention since I first got on covers with AOL dial up. And politics since before the inception of the internet.I’m telling you there weren’t that many tin foil hat wearers until recently and the few there were, were made fun of.
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    Tonight after the last nfl game of the weekend Fred Roggin has a segment in which he shows the most exciting High school high lights of the week. Literally every week. Now, you are assuming that I just started recently paying attention when in fact I’ve been paying attention since I first got on covers with AOL dial up. And politics since before the inception of the internet.I’m telling you there weren’t that many tin foil hat wearers until recently and the few there were, were made fun of.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 5:09 PM ET #57

    For as long as the majority believes NFL is real and not staged, it will keep generating more revenue and sportsbooks as well. The losers will be like the people posting in this thread thinking NFL is full of integrity and allows outcome be left to chance to guys like Geno Smith, Jameis Winston and alike…

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    For as long as the majority believes NFL is real and not staged, it will keep generating more revenue and sportsbooks as well. The losers will be like the people posting in this thread thinking NFL is full of integrity and allows outcome be left to chance to guys like Geno Smith, Jameis Winston and alike…

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 5:11 PM ET #58

    My problem is I gave my Under 6 football team the script to follow, and half of them can't even read. Got to start them early.

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    My problem is I gave my Under 6 football team the script to follow, and half of them can't even read. Got to start them early.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 5:11 PM ET #59

    @Ed-Collins

     this guy is "vaxxed" 

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    @Ed-Collins

     this guy is "vaxxed" 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 5:11 PM ET #60

    whoever thinks its fixed...i have 1 question...why the fuk are you still betting

     

     

     

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    whoever thinks its fixed...i have 1 question...why the fuk are you still betting

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 5:14 PM ET #61

    @mikebdb

     You can bet on fixed and staged events as well, it’s even easier when you follow trends.

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     You can bet on fixed and staged events as well, it’s even easier when you follow trends.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 5:19 PM ET #62

    The majority of people do not believe the NFL is scripted. If they did you wouldn’t be special anymore by being so much more clever than the ordinary person.an_roll_laugh

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    The majority of people do not believe the NFL is scripted. If they did you wouldn’t be special anymore by being so much more clever than the ordinary person.an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 5:25 PM ET #63

    LOL 7out...well played  an_cheers

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    LOL 7out...well played  an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 5:28 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by 7out:

    The majority of people do not believe the NFL is scripted. If they did you wouldn’t be special anymore by being so much more clever than the ordinary person.
     

    Yes, less people know the truth. It's always been that way. So what's your point.

    Countless books written about how the masses are dumb as heck and trained to be that way.

    You used the word "believe".

    We don't believe. We know. Believing is for childish minds

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7out:

    The majority of people do not believe the NFL is scripted. If they did you wouldn’t be special anymore by being so much more clever than the ordinary person.
     

    Yes, less people know the truth. It's always been that way. So what's your point.

    Countless books written about how the masses are dumb as heck and trained to be that way.

    You used the word "believe".

    We don't believe. We know. Believing is for childish minds

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 5:36 PM ET #65

    College Basketball players can and have and I am sure still do shave points but their team is favored by say 18 points. We all know of the NBA official who was fixing games I doubt he is the only one in history.  I wouldn't say it is a fix but it is entertainment and each league is fighting for the entertainment dollars and ratings. NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB are all entertainment groups that want to capture as much as the market as possible. They are also competing against video games, movies, the billion of streaming shows and other activities.  All competing for eyeballs, selling merchandise and streaming service subscriptions.  We can all agree games are much more exciting when the stars shine and these events have drama at the end of each event. Superstars are also part of the big corporations selking goods and services.  The officials can call or not call a foul, pass interference, holding, checking, a ball or a strike to add to the drama and have their entertainment company get the most veiws, coverage on social media. Football is popular because of the violence and the skill same with NHL. Baseball is a slow burner of tension on each pitch, NBA is ALL about Star power and making sure those stars are not impeded by a lesser players defense.  Also, Brands like the Cowboys, Patriots, Steelers, Packers, Red Sox, Cubs Raiders, Lakers, Celtics, Bruins, Blackhawks, Flyers, Maple Leafs etc are Natuonal brands. Then the big markets NYC, LA Chicago, Philly, Boston, Houston, Tampa area, Phoenix bring in more money just on population. It is entertainment and a product that needs a compelling narrative.  

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    College Basketball players can and have and I am sure still do shave points but their team is favored by say 18 points. We all know of the NBA official who was fixing games I doubt he is the only one in history.  I wouldn't say it is a fix but it is entertainment and each league is fighting for the entertainment dollars and ratings. NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB are all entertainment groups that want to capture as much as the market as possible. They are also competing against video games, movies, the billion of streaming shows and other activities.  All competing for eyeballs, selling merchandise and streaming service subscriptions.  We can all agree games are much more exciting when the stars shine and these events have drama at the end of each event. Superstars are also part of the big corporations selking goods and services.  The officials can call or not call a foul, pass interference, holding, checking, a ball or a strike to add to the drama and have their entertainment company get the most veiws, coverage on social media. Football is popular because of the violence and the skill same with NHL. Baseball is a slow burner of tension on each pitch, NBA is ALL about Star power and making sure those stars are not impeded by a lesser players defense.  Also, Brands like the Cowboys, Patriots, Steelers, Packers, Red Sox, Cubs Raiders, Lakers, Celtics, Bruins, Blackhawks, Flyers, Maple Leafs etc are Natuonal brands. Then the big markets NYC, LA Chicago, Philly, Boston, Houston, Tampa area, Phoenix bring in more money just on population. It is entertainment and a product that needs a compelling narrative.  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 5:39 PM ET #66

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     than please dont complain about fixes...not you but anyone who does

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     than please dont complain about fixes...not you but anyone who does

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 5:42 PM ET #67

    @tech65

     They are compensated for the entertainment venues they choose with generational wealth, fame, other commercial compensation and many would have little opportunity besides a low paying job plus it allows them to enter higher education not based on their academic acumen but because they entertain the student body and the wider population.  In the age of social media the lines are completely blurred between athlete and celebrity. 

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     They are compensated for the entertainment venues they choose with generational wealth, fame, other commercial compensation and many would have little opportunity besides a low paying job plus it allows them to enter higher education not based on their academic acumen but because they entertain the student body and the wider population.  In the age of social media the lines are completely blurred between athlete and celebrity. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 5:45 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by mikebdb:

    @Old_Tymer  than please dont complain about fixes...not you but anyone who does

    THIS!

    If you think it's scripted, yet you don't know what the script calls for, and you're still betting, you're a first class dumbass

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikebdb:

    @Old_Tymer  than please dont complain about fixes...not you but anyone who does

    THIS!

    If you think it's scripted, yet you don't know what the script calls for, and you're still betting, you're a first class dumbass

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2021 - 5:59 PM ET #69

    @chic-cardinals

     If sports were fixed af, why are you broke af?

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     If sports were fixed af, why are you broke af?

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    Lol at this thread. Bottom line, it’s manipulated and it’s easy as hell to see, but very difficult to prove.

    How many times do you have to see a mind boggling call from the officials? Why do these horrendous calls happen is every game and even more so in prime time? Why does the NFL rule book allow for such subjective calls? Seriously, how many yellow flags is it gonna take till you begin to question it? 

    The NFL is a multi billion dollar business. Where there’s money, there’s corruption. Don’t be so naive.

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    Lol at this thread. Bottom line, it’s manipulated and it’s easy as hell to see, but very difficult to prove.

    How many times do you have to see a mind boggling call from the officials? Why do these horrendous calls happen is every game and even more so in prime time? Why does the NFL rule book allow for such subjective calls? Seriously, how many yellow flags is it gonna take till you begin to question it? 

    The NFL is a multi billion dollar business. Where there’s money, there’s corruption. Don’t be so naive.

    Cheers and bol to all 

     
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    Obviously excellent questions...logical, well-reasoned...

    Guess it's Chic/Old-Tymer's principles...he refuses to buy SCRIPTED...the weekly newsletter given free to the NFL NYC front office staff, the Commish's staff, their regional offices, their Legal Department, the NFL Security Division, the FBI investigative consultants that "protect" the Shield, all the teams' ownership groups, teams' investor groups (including state and municipal investors), League refs, League merchandise manufacturers, etc, etc...oh yeah, and all the Vegas casinos that set the lines.

    Once we're let in on the big secret of how that hush-hush secret has been going on for generations, we'll all be as smart as the clever guys on here.

     

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    Obviously excellent questions...logical, well-reasoned...

    Guess it's Chic/Old-Tymer's principles...he refuses to buy SCRIPTED...the weekly newsletter given free to the NFL NYC front office staff, the Commish's staff, their regional offices, their Legal Department, the NFL Security Division, the FBI investigative consultants that "protect" the Shield, all the teams' ownership groups, teams' investor groups (including state and municipal investors), League refs, League merchandise manufacturers, etc, etc...oh yeah, and all the Vegas casinos that set the lines.

    Once we're let in on the big secret of how that hush-hush secret has been going on for generations, we'll all be as smart as the clever guys on here.

     

     
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     This "entertainment" argument is beyond weak.   Since when is entertainment a synonym for rigged or fixed    You are grasping at straws or do not understand the English language  Either way you will continue with your foolish babbling  You repeat the same thing over and over as to think if you say it enough times it becomes facts   Please post another Youtube clip as those are such solid evidence 

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     This "entertainment" argument is beyond weak.   Since when is entertainment a synonym for rigged or fixed    You are grasping at straws or do not understand the English language  Either way you will continue with your foolish babbling  You repeat the same thing over and over as to think if you say it enough times it becomes facts   Please post another Youtube clip as those are such solid evidence 

     
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    Reading these threads is akin to going to the local Walmart on Saturday.  Just really helps boost your self esteem, and makes you feel better about your lot if life... 

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    Reading these threads is akin to going to the local Walmart on Saturday.  Just really helps boost your self esteem, and makes you feel better about your lot if life... 

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    Oh, and theres a Price Rollback on NFL Scripts...!!!  Better hurry!!! an_woo

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    Oh, and theres a Price Rollback on NFL Scripts...!!!  Better hurry!!! an_woo

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DB51daBEARS:

    @bluecompass @packersbackers Obviously excellent questions...logical, well-reasoned...  Once we're let in on the big secret of how that hush-hush secret has been going on for generations, we'll all be as smart as the clever guys on here.

    MY BAD...what was I thinking...or more properly, who was I forgetting to include in the BIG SECRET?

    So all the individuals and organizations that would have to be covering up for all these decades...they have families, no?

    All the pre-teens related to whomever it applies...their classmates and friends that they might let it slip because we all know how kids LOVE to keep secrets...

    all the teenagers related to whomever it applies, and all THEIR friends, classmates, team mates, many of whom are looking to buy new cars before they head off to "State" or to a really cool school with tons of hot co-eds...

    all the college and post-college kids it applies to who want to pay off their college loans, and buy cool new luxury cars...

    all the "grown up" working kids who want to make a bundle because they've seen their dad's or mom's copy of SCRIPTED and they want to retire by the time they're 40...

    all the girlfriends of the guys "in the know" who tell them their wives "don't understand them"...

    all the boyfriends/cucks of the ladies "in the know" who tell the cucks how they're grossed out every time hubby climbs on top of them after spending a booze-filled night out with the boys...

    all the lovers and ex-lovers over all the years who let these "insiders" know that they love jewelry, beach houses, and retirement annuities in return for keeping their mouths shut...

    and all the rest I forgot to mention...too funny to even continue...

    people threatening to write books...call the newspapers if they don't get that villa in the Caribbean.

    It's only money...so pay up if you want them to shut up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB51daBEARS:

    @bluecompass @packersbackers Obviously excellent questions...logical, well-reasoned...  Once we're let in on the big secret of how that hush-hush secret has been going on for generations, we'll all be as smart as the clever guys on here.

    MY BAD...what was I thinking...or more properly, who was I forgetting to include in the BIG SECRET?

    So all the individuals and organizations that would have to be covering up for all these decades...they have families, no?

    All the pre-teens related to whomever it applies...their classmates and friends that they might let it slip because we all know how kids LOVE to keep secrets...

    all the teenagers related to whomever it applies, and all THEIR friends, classmates, team mates, many of whom are looking to buy new cars before they head off to "State" or to a really cool school with tons of hot co-eds...

    all the college and post-college kids it applies to who want to pay off their college loans, and buy cool new luxury cars...

    all the "grown up" working kids who want to make a bundle because they've seen their dad's or mom's copy of SCRIPTED and they want to retire by the time they're 40...

    all the girlfriends of the guys "in the know" who tell them their wives "don't understand them"...

    all the boyfriends/cucks of the ladies "in the know" who tell the cucks how they're grossed out every time hubby climbs on top of them after spending a booze-filled night out with the boys...

    all the lovers and ex-lovers over all the years who let these "insiders" know that they love jewelry, beach houses, and retirement annuities in return for keeping their mouths shut...

    and all the rest I forgot to mention...too funny to even continue...

    people threatening to write books...call the newspapers if they don't get that villa in the Caribbean.

    It's only money...so pay up if you want them to shut up.

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