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    tommys1081
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 10:47 AM ET #201

    Quote Originally Posted by NJPorky:

    hey moron noone anywhere in the world had Philadelphia -3 2H week #4: everywhere had the game -3.5 or -4 even the opening line at every casino in vegas just take a look at vegas insider they have the opening line as well as any moves.....
     
    Secondly the saints were -1 against washington week #2 not washington -1 so that is no play since the favorite was winning at the half....as I got the saints -1,
     
    so 11-10 on the year......not including week #1...thus your profit for the year? $0.00
     
    so suck it easy!!!!!

    i guess now you have my user and password to jazzsports.com and know what my lines are? wow your system really is that good

    why dont you go f your mother and stop being a hater and accept the fact that your system isnt the only one out there and someone else somewhere might have something that works for them

    i know what the f my lines are and i know how much money i make using my system so if you dont like it dont follow it plain and simple...if you cant do that and you want to make more of it than it is here is my email address tommys103@aim.com, email me your address and ill come by and we can see what the problem is

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJPorky:

    hey moron noone anywhere in the world had Philadelphia -3 2H week #4: everywhere had the game -3.5 or -4 even the opening line at every casino in vegas just take a look at vegas insider they have the opening line as well as any moves.....
     
    Secondly the saints were -1 against washington week #2 not washington -1 so that is no play since the favorite was winning at the half....as I got the saints -1,
     
    so 11-10 on the year......not including week #1...thus your profit for the year? $0.00
     
    so suck it easy!!!!!

    i guess now you have my user and password to jazzsports.com and know what my lines are? wow your system really is that good

    why dont you go f your mother and stop being a hater and accept the fact that your system isnt the only one out there and someone else somewhere might have something that works for them

    i know what the f my lines are and i know how much money i make using my system so if you dont like it dont follow it plain and simple...if you cant do that and you want to make more of it than it is here is my email address tommys103@aim.com, email me your address and ill come by and we can see what the problem is

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 11:31 AM ET #202

    Porky...after doing some research, your system really only works when the favorite is "losing" 10 points on the game line compared with the second half line. In the first 5 weeks, the favorite has "lost" 10 or more points for the game a total of 17 times. If you continued taking the favorite for the second half, you would have went 11-6 (65%) (which is what you have been doing). Now on the flip side, the games where the favorite was losing at half and received a 10 point discount on the game line was much more successful. There were a total of 6 games so far this year that fell into that situation and the results were 5-1 (83%).
     
    So going back to what tommy was mentioning, the favorites are favorite for a reason and are supposed to beat on the underdog. So, in many cases the favorite remains to beat the dog in 2h as well as 1h. But there was only 1 game out of 6 this year where the favorite (who was receiving a 10 point discount at half) did not cover the 2h line (Week 3 NEW vs MIA).
     
    So as you can see, the only reason you have had success so far is bc the early season lines are not correct because these are still based on last years team's ability. I promise you as the season goes on and the lines are more accurate, you will see the 2h discounts in the favorites favor and you will lose more games since the favorites cover 83% of the time ytd in the 2h when receiving a 2h discount of 10 or more points.
     
    So stop being such a douche and open your eyes and ears to the logic of these systems bc they both do work. We are all here to figure out a statistical way to get an edge. 
     
    for all those who would like me to email you an excel spreadsheet with all games ytd showing the discounts received and the results of the 2h wagering email me at Rounders550@yahoo.com.
     
     
     
     
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    Porky...after doing some research, your system really only works when the favorite is "losing" 10 points on the game line compared with the second half line. In the first 5 weeks, the favorite has "lost" 10 or more points for the game a total of 17 times. If you continued taking the favorite for the second half, you would have went 11-6 (65%) (which is what you have been doing). Now on the flip side, the games where the favorite was losing at half and received a 10 point discount on the game line was much more successful. There were a total of 6 games so far this year that fell into that situation and the results were 5-1 (83%).
     
    So going back to what tommy was mentioning, the favorites are favorite for a reason and are supposed to beat on the underdog. So, in many cases the favorite remains to beat the dog in 2h as well as 1h. But there was only 1 game out of 6 this year where the favorite (who was receiving a 10 point discount at half) did not cover the 2h line (Week 3 NEW vs MIA).
     
    So as you can see, the only reason you have had success so far is bc the early season lines are not correct because these are still based on last years team's ability. I promise you as the season goes on and the lines are more accurate, you will see the 2h discounts in the favorites favor and you will lose more games since the favorites cover 83% of the time ytd in the 2h when receiving a 2h discount of 10 or more points.
     
    So stop being such a douche and open your eyes and ears to the logic of these systems bc they both do work. We are all here to figure out a statistical way to get an edge. 
     
    for all those who would like me to email you an excel spreadsheet with all games ytd showing the discounts received and the results of the 2h wagering email me at Rounders550@yahoo.com.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 11:34 AM ET #203

    Quote Originally Posted by tommys1081:

    i know what the f my lines are and i know how much money i make using my system so if you dont like it dont follow it plain and simple...if you cant do that and you want to make more of it than it is here is my email address tommys103@aim.com, email me your address and ill come by and we can see what the problem is

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommys1081:

    i know what the f my lines are and i know how much money i make using my system so if you dont like it dont follow it plain and simple...if you cant do that and you want to make more of it than it is here is my email address tommys103@aim.com, email me your address and ill come by and we can see what the problem is

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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 11:35 AM ET #204

    I also did my research based on the crazy lines that are posted on vegasinsider.com. The wagering site I use has different lines where it could have affected the results.
     
    Going foward I will be using as many of the lines I receive for 2h as possible. I will also be posting my 2h picks as soon as wager has been entered as long as i am able to.
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    I also did my research based on the crazy lines that are posted on vegasinsider.com. The wagering site I use has different lines where it could have affected the results.
     
    Going foward I will be using as many of the lines I receive for 2h as possible. I will also be posting my 2h picks as soon as wager has been entered as long as i am able to.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 11:39 AM ET #205

    Quote Originally Posted by Rounders550:

    Porky...after doing some research, your system really only works when the favorite is "losing" 10 points on the game line compared with the second half line. In the first 5 weeks, the favorite has "lost" 10 or more points for the game a total of 17 times. If you continued taking the favorite for the second half, you would have went 11-6 (65%) (which is what you have been doing). Now on the flip side, the games where the favorite was losing at half and received a 10 point discount on the game line was much more successful. There were a total of 6 games so far this year that fell into that situation and the results were 5-1 (83%).
     
    So going back to what tommy was mentioning, the favorites are favorite for a reason and are supposed to beat on the underdog. So, in many cases the favorite remains to beat the dog in 2h as well as 1h. But there was only 1 game out of 6 this year where the favorite (who was receiving a 10 point discount at half) did not cover the 2h line (Week 3 NEW vs MIA).
     
    So as you can see, the only reason you have had success so far is bc the early season lines are not correct because these are still based on last years team's ability. I promise you as the season goes on and the lines are more accurate, you will see the 2h discounts in the favorites favor and you will lose more games since the favorites cover 83% of the time ytd in the 2h when receiving a 2h discount of 10 or more points.
     
    So stop being such a douche and open your eyes and ears to the logic of these systems bc they both do work. We are all here to figure out a statistical way to get an edge. 
     
    for all those who would like me to email you an excel spreadsheet with all games ytd showing the discounts received and the results of the 2h wagering email me at Rounders550@yahoo.com.
     
     
     
     

    finally someone with some brains around here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rounders550:

    Porky...after doing some research, your system really only works when the favorite is "losing" 10 points on the game line compared with the second half line. In the first 5 weeks, the favorite has "lost" 10 or more points for the game a total of 17 times. If you continued taking the favorite for the second half, you would have went 11-6 (65%) (which is what you have been doing). Now on the flip side, the games where the favorite was losing at half and received a 10 point discount on the game line was much more successful. There were a total of 6 games so far this year that fell into that situation and the results were 5-1 (83%).
     
    So going back to what tommy was mentioning, the favorites are favorite for a reason and are supposed to beat on the underdog. So, in many cases the favorite remains to beat the dog in 2h as well as 1h. But there was only 1 game out of 6 this year where the favorite (who was receiving a 10 point discount at half) did not cover the 2h line (Week 3 NEW vs MIA).
     
    So as you can see, the only reason you have had success so far is bc the early season lines are not correct because these are still based on last years team's ability. I promise you as the season goes on and the lines are more accurate, you will see the 2h discounts in the favorites favor and you will lose more games since the favorites cover 83% of the time ytd in the 2h when receiving a 2h discount of 10 or more points.
     
    So stop being such a douche and open your eyes and ears to the logic of these systems bc they both do work. We are all here to figure out a statistical way to get an edge. 
     
    for all those who would like me to email you an excel spreadsheet with all games ytd showing the discounts received and the results of the 2h wagering email me at Rounders550@yahoo.com.
     
     
     
     

    finally someone with some brains around here

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 11:45 AM ET #206

    Quote Originally Posted by tommys1081:

    finally someone with some brains around here

    to add to your point about i want to empasize that some judgement should still be used.  for example if two shit teams are playing and one happens to be the favorite and losing at half anything can happen so be cautious....i like to load up when you have a playoff caliber team like the colts losing to a team like the texans at the half, moreso than when a team like the lions are losing to the rams

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommys1081:

    finally someone with some brains around here

    to add to your point about i want to empasize that some judgement should still be used.  for example if two shit teams are playing and one happens to be the favorite and losing at half anything can happen so be cautious....i like to load up when you have a playoff caliber team like the colts losing to a team like the texans at the half, moreso than when a team like the lions are losing to the rams

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 12:46 PM ET #207

    Man..........pork n tommy need 2 chill out.....hey pork i feel you but dont b so stubborn homie... we can all get dis $$ 2gether. hey tommy make sure u r here sunday so u can show us ur system also. Rite now porky's our guy cuz he has been providing the literature and expertise dat us "statistical morons" really need lol...I'll b here dis weekend to c wut yall think about college and nfl 2h lines........peace!!!!
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    Man..........pork n tommy need 2 chill out.....hey pork i feel you but dont b so stubborn homie... we can all get dis $$ 2gether. hey tommy make sure u r here sunday so u can show us ur system also. Rite now porky's our guy cuz he has been providing the literature and expertise dat us "statistical morons" really need lol...I'll b here dis weekend to c wut yall think about college and nfl 2h lines........peace!!!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 1:01 PM ET #208

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmysalas:

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    haha...i like that one

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    haha...i like that one

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 1:12 PM ET #209

    Quote Originally Posted by champ222:

    Man..........pork n tommy need 2 chill out.....hey pork i feel you but dont b so stubborn homie... we can all get dis $$ 2gether. hey tommy make sure u r here sunday so u can show us ur system also. Rite now porky's our guy cuz he has been providing the literature and expertise dat us "statistical morons" really need lol...I'll b here dis weekend to c wut yall think about college and nfl 2h lines........peace!!!!

    nice post champ i agree

    thats what im saying man...all im trying to do is collaborate with people and find ways to work together towards the common goal and thats beating the bookies and making money...its not a competition of whos system is better than whose...if someone system can be tweaked or combined with another thought process why wouldnt everyone be open minded to it...if porkys system wins me more money than mine do you think i care that its his and not mine...no...i would use it and make money and give him props...all i did was post up my system and suggestions and i get wise ass responses so naturally one would become angry...lets all do this together...

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    Quote Originally Posted by champ222:

    Man..........pork n tommy need 2 chill out.....hey pork i feel you but dont b so stubborn homie... we can all get dis $$ 2gether. hey tommy make sure u r here sunday so u can show us ur system also. Rite now porky's our guy cuz he has been providing the literature and expertise dat us "statistical morons" really need lol...I'll b here dis weekend to c wut yall think about college and nfl 2h lines........peace!!!!

    nice post champ i agree

    thats what im saying man...all im trying to do is collaborate with people and find ways to work together towards the common goal and thats beating the bookies and making money...its not a competition of whos system is better than whose...if someone system can be tweaked or combined with another thought process why wouldnt everyone be open minded to it...if porkys system wins me more money than mine do you think i care that its his and not mine...no...i would use it and make money and give him props...all i did was post up my system and suggestions and i get wise ass responses so naturally one would become angry...lets all do this together...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 1:54 PM ET #210

    dats wuts up then...make sure u r available dis weekend cuz now you're a valuable source 4 people like me n others that i speak for. I would like to combine your insight along with porky's because both of yall make sense 2 me. Im sure porky wouldn't mind hearing you out more in the future. It was just a lil misunderstanding and 2 intelligent grown men should b able 2 make dis work n reap the rewards from it.............@ least i think so
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    dats wuts up then...make sure u r available dis weekend cuz now you're a valuable source 4 people like me n others that i speak for. I would like to combine your insight along with porky's because both of yall make sense 2 me. Im sure porky wouldn't mind hearing you out more in the future. It was just a lil misunderstanding and 2 intelligent grown men should b able 2 make dis work n reap the rewards from it.............@ least i think so
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rounders550:

    I am going to have to dispute this betting system. I have the same system but I go against NJ Porky's logic.
     
    Hypothetical Example:
    USC -26 UCLA
    Halftime score is 0-0
    2H line is USC -10 UCLA
    In theory, you know have USC for the game at -10 which is like buying 16 points on the spread for free. I call this a 16 point discount.
    Now think of it this way.....You think to yourself, "If I would have woke up and seen the line at -10 instead of -26, I would have pounded it"
    Since the line makers are mostly correct, the discount method makes complete sense.
     
    You can do the same thing for over/unders.
    USC/UCLA o/u 50.
    halftime score 0-0
    2h o/u is 24.
    You now have the o/u for the game at 26 (discount of 24 points), which you would have pounded if that was the line when you woke up.
     
    Let me know how you all feel about this.
    Used this method for nfl this weekend/mnf and won tenn, ind, sd, and no saints (the only 4 2h bets i placed) also hit 75% of ncaa
     

    Hey TOMMY1081, do you read tyhe thread? This was the first post by Rounders and you cam on here defending him and his system. His firs line ever posted in my thread was :

    "I am going to have to dispute this betting system. I have the same system but I go against NJ Porky's logic."

    So t wasn't about working together he was saying basically do the complete opposite of what I was doing.....my whole point was my system has been successful so far, so if he is suggesting doing the complete opposite how can it be successful? Show me numbers....my numbers of my system are posted here for all to see, so someone to come on and say to do the complete opposite makes no sense to me. I'm a very analytical person so I need to see things speeled out and stats to back it up, even when I found this system I followed it for 2-3 weeks befor I started making the plays. So yes I am always all ears on how to make my system better or follow someone elses system that wins, but I took it as you and Rounders where trying to say to do the complete opposite as what I was doing.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rounders550:

    I am going to have to dispute this betting system. I have the same system but I go against NJ Porky's logic.
     
    Hypothetical Example:
    USC -26 UCLA
    Halftime score is 0-0
    2H line is USC -10 UCLA
    In theory, you know have USC for the game at -10 which is like buying 16 points on the spread for free. I call this a 16 point discount.
    Now think of it this way.....You think to yourself, "If I would have woke up and seen the line at -10 instead of -26, I would have pounded it"
    Since the line makers are mostly correct, the discount method makes complete sense.
     
    You can do the same thing for over/unders.
    USC/UCLA o/u 50.
    halftime score 0-0
    2h o/u is 24.
    You now have the o/u for the game at 26 (discount of 24 points), which you would have pounded if that was the line when you woke up.
     
    Let me know how you all feel about this.
    Used this method for nfl this weekend/mnf and won tenn, ind, sd, and no saints (the only 4 2h bets i placed) also hit 75% of ncaa
     

    Hey TOMMY1081, do you read tyhe thread? This was the first post by Rounders and you cam on here defending him and his system. His firs line ever posted in my thread was :

    "I am going to have to dispute this betting system. I have the same system but I go against NJ Porky's logic."

    So t wasn't about working together he was saying basically do the complete opposite of what I was doing.....my whole point was my system has been successful so far, so if he is suggesting doing the complete opposite how can it be successful? Show me numbers....my numbers of my system are posted here for all to see, so someone to come on and say to do the complete opposite makes no sense to me. I'm a very analytical person so I need to see things speeled out and stats to back it up, even when I found this system I followed it for 2-3 weeks befor I started making the plays. So yes I am always all ears on how to make my system better or follow someone elses system that wins, but I took it as you and Rounders where trying to say to do the complete opposite as what I was doing.....

     
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    Porky, read me last post and it explains exactly how you are winning/losing so far this year. You lose the games where you decide to take the dog when you should be taking the favorite.
     
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    In the first 5 weeks, the favorite has "lost" 10 or more points for the game a total of 17 times. If you continued taking the favorite for the second half, you would have went 11-6 (65%) (which is what you have been doing). Now on the flip side, the games where the favorite was losing at half and received a 10 point discount on the game line was much more successful. There were a total of 6 games so far this year that fell into that situation and the results were 5-1 (83%).
     
    After getting a better understanding of your system, it is statistically successful to stay with the favorite for the 2h when there is a 10 point "discount" in either direction (this is what you have been successful on so far this season bc more games fell into this situation).
     
    You seem to be missing the strategy of taking the favorite when losing at halftime and getting a 10 point or more discount (83% success rate).
     
    I did very well last season using the discount method on the o/u's for ncaa fb so I expanded the study this year to find a winning system for spreads for nfl and ncaa.
     
    So again, after research and getting a better understanding about both systems, we both would have a better winning % if we incorporated a bit of both.
     
    The games that would have lost in my system were the ones when I would have taken the dogs in the 2h when getting a "discount" of 10+ when in fact , I should have jumped on the favorite to contiune to beat on the dog.
     
    The games that would have lost in your syetm were the games where you stayed with the dog for the second half when the team getting the discount was the favorite of 10+ and the favorite ended up winning the 2h bet.
     
    So the hybrid sytem (yours and mine) says to bet the favorite in the 2h whenever there is a 10 point "discount"/"middle" for either of the teams. Either the Favorite will continue to pound the dog (supposed to happen) or the favorite will make a comeback in the 2h and cover the spread (expected to happen),
     
    so stop being such a box and listen to what I am saying. and if you continue to be a little fbitch about it, i hope others that read this use it to their benefit and make a few bucks.
     
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    Porky, read me last post and it explains exactly how you are winning/losing so far this year. You lose the games where you decide to take the dog when you should be taking the favorite.
     
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    In the first 5 weeks, the favorite has "lost" 10 or more points for the game a total of 17 times. If you continued taking the favorite for the second half, you would have went 11-6 (65%) (which is what you have been doing). Now on the flip side, the games where the favorite was losing at half and received a 10 point discount on the game line was much more successful. There were a total of 6 games so far this year that fell into that situation and the results were 5-1 (83%).
     
    After getting a better understanding of your system, it is statistically successful to stay with the favorite for the 2h when there is a 10 point "discount" in either direction (this is what you have been successful on so far this season bc more games fell into this situation).
     
    You seem to be missing the strategy of taking the favorite when losing at halftime and getting a 10 point or more discount (83% success rate).
     
    I did very well last season using the discount method on the o/u's for ncaa fb so I expanded the study this year to find a winning system for spreads for nfl and ncaa.
     
    So again, after research and getting a better understanding about both systems, we both would have a better winning % if we incorporated a bit of both.
     
    The games that would have lost in my system were the ones when I would have taken the dogs in the 2h when getting a "discount" of 10+ when in fact , I should have jumped on the favorite to contiune to beat on the dog.
     
    The games that would have lost in your syetm were the games where you stayed with the dog for the second half when the team getting the discount was the favorite of 10+ and the favorite ended up winning the 2h bet.
     
    So the hybrid sytem (yours and mine) says to bet the favorite in the 2h whenever there is a 10 point "discount"/"middle" for either of the teams. Either the Favorite will continue to pound the dog (supposed to happen) or the favorite will make a comeback in the 2h and cover the spread (expected to happen),
     
    so stop being such a box and listen to what I am saying. and if you continue to be a little fbitch about it, i hope others that read this use it to their benefit and make a few bucks.
     
     
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    fo f yourself, why the hell on you here in my thread talking down to me? Call me another name and we are going to have a problem, I never once talked down to you or called you any names...show me some respect or don't bother posting in my threads! Cause if you talk that way to me, I could care less what you have to say....
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    fo f yourself, why the hell on you here in my thread talking down to me? Call me another name and we are going to have a problem, I never once talked down to you or called you any names...show me some respect or don't bother posting in my threads! Cause if you talk that way to me, I could care less what you have to say....
     
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    ROUNDERS550
     
    By the way you made 8 posts so far....try posting a play that wins befor the game goes final.....if your really here to help others...just start your own thread and post all the plays you want...if your a good capper and prove yourself, you won't have to post in my threads to get anyone to read your BS!
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    By the way you made 8 posts so far....try posting a play that wins befor the game goes final.....if your really here to help others...just start your own thread and post all the plays you want...if your a good capper and prove yourself, you won't have to post in my threads to get anyone to read your BS!
     
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    ROUNDERS550
     
    By the way you made 8 posts so far....try posting a play that wins befor the game goes final.....if your really here to help others...just start your own thread and post all the plays you want...if your a good capper and prove yourself, you won't have to post in my threads to get anyone to read your BS!
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    By the way you made 8 posts so far....try posting a play that wins befor the game goes final.....if your really here to help others...just start your own thread and post all the plays you want...if your a good capper and prove yourself, you won't have to post in my threads to get anyone to read your BS!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rounders550:

    I am going to have to dispute this betting system. I have the same system but I go against NJ Porky's logic.
     
    Hypothetical Example:
    USC -26 UCLA
    Halftime score is 0-0
    2H line is USC -10 UCLA
    In theory, you know have USC for the game at -10 which is like buying 16 points on the spread for free. I call this a 16 point discount.
    Now think of it this way.....You think to yourself, "If I would have woke up and seen the line at -10 instead of -26, I would have pounded it"
    Since the line makers are mostly correct, the discount method makes complete sense.
     
    You can do the same thing for over/unders.
    USC/UCLA o/u 50.
    halftime score 0-0
    2h o/u is 24.
    You now have the o/u for the game at 26 (discount of 24 points), which you would have pounded if that was the line when you woke up.
     
    Let me know how you all feel about this.
    Used this method for nfl this weekend/mnf and won tenn, ind, sd, and no saints (the only 4 2h bets i placed) also hit 75% of ncaa
     

     

    you dont have over 26 for the game now, you only have over 24 for the second half thats it. Each half is seperate from each other.

    What you can say is since the total was 50, each half would have been 25 points, but now the second half line is 24, you have a discount of 1 point from the original line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rounders550:

    I am going to have to dispute this betting system. I have the same system but I go against NJ Porky's logic.
     
    Hypothetical Example:
    USC -26 UCLA
    Halftime score is 0-0
    2H line is USC -10 UCLA
    In theory, you know have USC for the game at -10 which is like buying 16 points on the spread for free. I call this a 16 point discount.
    Now think of it this way.....You think to yourself, "If I would have woke up and seen the line at -10 instead of -26, I would have pounded it"
    Since the line makers are mostly correct, the discount method makes complete sense.
     
    You can do the same thing for over/unders.
    USC/UCLA o/u 50.
    halftime score 0-0
    2h o/u is 24.
    You now have the o/u for the game at 26 (discount of 24 points), which you would have pounded if that was the line when you woke up.
     
    Let me know how you all feel about this.
    Used this method for nfl this weekend/mnf and won tenn, ind, sd, and no saints (the only 4 2h bets i placed) also hit 75% of ncaa
     

     

    you dont have over 26 for the game now, you only have over 24 for the second half thats it. Each half is seperate from each other.

    What you can say is since the total was 50, each half would have been 25 points, but now the second half line is 24, you have a discount of 1 point from the original line.

     
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    Let me explain it a little better.
    If the score at halftime is 0-0 and the 2h ou is 24, that means the new ou for the game is 24. the original ou was 50. so it effectively is getting the game ou at 24 now and a discount of 26 points for free.
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    Let me explain it a little better.
    If the score at halftime is 0-0 and the 2h ou is 24, that means the new ou for the game is 24. the original ou was 50. so it effectively is getting the game ou at 24 now and a discount of 26 points for free.
     
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    For those who have seen me and Porky going back and forth the past couple days, I will explain again why his system produced a losing bet last night.
     
    HOU -18.5 UAB
    halftime score was UAB 20, HOU 3
    2h line was HOU -11.5
    That now makes HOU +5 for the game now (can lose game by 5 and win 2h bet). That is a 24 point discount.
     
    Now since HOU was the favorite, you would take houston for 2h.
     
    These are the games that Porky losses. Why would anyone in their right nind take a dog with a new effective game line at -5 when they were +18.5 for the game?? And on the road nonetheless!!!!!
     
    So again, whenever there is a 10 point discount/middle, always take the favorite!!!!
     
    Look at prior posts for nfl stats.
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    For those who have seen me and Porky going back and forth the past couple days, I will explain again why his system produced a losing bet last night.
     
    HOU -18.5 UAB
    halftime score was UAB 20, HOU 3
    2h line was HOU -11.5
    That now makes HOU +5 for the game now (can lose game by 5 and win 2h bet). That is a 24 point discount.
     
    Now since HOU was the favorite, you would take houston for 2h.
     
    These are the games that Porky losses. Why would anyone in their right nind take a dog with a new effective game line at -5 when they were +18.5 for the game?? And on the road nonetheless!!!!!
     
    So again, whenever there is a 10 point discount/middle, always take the favorite!!!!
     
    Look at prior posts for nfl stats.
     
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    start a new thread dude, damn. 
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    start a new thread dude, damn. 
     
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    I thought we were gonna get along around here...Hey Rounders don't be starting shyt homeboy.. we tryna get $$ here....not tryna b internet gangsters.. Hey Tommy  and Porky, im sure u both are tough but we r interested in winning picks and thats it........so cut da bullshit and tell me who 2 bet on 2day cuz i bet on wake forest and I won the gametime line and 2h line

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    I thought we were gonna get along around here...Hey Rounders don't be starting shyt homeboy.. we tryna get $$ here....not tryna b internet gangsters.. Hey Tommy  and Porky, im sure u both are tough but we r interested in winning picks and thats it........so cut da bullshit and tell me who 2 bet on 2day cuz i bet on wake forest and I won the gametime line and 2h line

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rounders550:

    Let me explain it a little better.
    If the score at halftime is 0-0 and the 2h ou is 24, that means the new ou for the game is 24. the original ou was 50. so it effectively is getting the game ou at 24 now and a discount of 26 points for free.

     

    call it whatever you want but you still only got 2 quarters to get over 24.  Let me repeat this again, you dont have over 24 for the game now, thats just dumb gambling lingo your using. Your under the assumption that the score of this game will have to end up near the original total of 50 and thats just not true.  Each half is independent of each other.

    Now if you had 4 quarters to score over 24 points, then yes you have over 24 for the game.

    You arent getting some discount of 26 points, the teams just didnt score anything and they might not score anything in the second half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rounders550:

    Let me explain it a little better.
    If the score at halftime is 0-0 and the 2h ou is 24, that means the new ou for the game is 24. the original ou was 50. so it effectively is getting the game ou at 24 now and a discount of 26 points for free.

     

    call it whatever you want but you still only got 2 quarters to get over 24.  Let me repeat this again, you dont have over 24 for the game now, thats just dumb gambling lingo your using. Your under the assumption that the score of this game will have to end up near the original total of 50 and thats just not true.  Each half is independent of each other.

    Now if you had 4 quarters to score over 24 points, then yes you have over 24 for the game.

    You arent getting some discount of 26 points, the teams just didnt score anything and they might not score anything in the second half.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

     

    call it whatever you want but you still only got 2 quarters to get over 24.  Let me repeat this again, you dont have over 24 for the game now, thats just dumb gambling lingo your using. Your under the assumption that the score of this game will have to end up near the original total of 50 and thats just not true.  Each half is independent of each other.

    Now if you had 4 quarters to score over 24 points, then yes you have over 24 for the game.

    You arent getting some discount of 26 points, the teams just didnt score anything and they might not score anything in the second half.

    Exactly...but trying to explain that to Rounders and Tommy is like trying to teach an old dog new tricks......they are stubborn pricks who want to come in my thread and just spew BS....I'm done with it.....I just don't understand why they are in my thread causing shit with me neither one has more than 13 posts and they are all in my thread and neither one has ever posted a play until the games are over....why not post a winner befor the game go final befor you start attacking anyone......I'm through with all of it, I'll just go on about betting my own games and staying to myself, why post on here and try and helpothers if you are only going to have 2 retards come on here and attack you? Not worth my time, so good luck all as this is my last post.......Hopefully I have shown enough people a winning system and they can use it to win some money!

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    call it whatever you want but you still only got 2 quarters to get over 24.  Let me repeat this again, you dont have over 24 for the game now, thats just dumb gambling lingo your using. Your under the assumption that the score of this game will have to end up near the original total of 50 and thats just not true.  Each half is independent of each other.

    Now if you had 4 quarters to score over 24 points, then yes you have over 24 for the game.

    You arent getting some discount of 26 points, the teams just didnt score anything and they might not score anything in the second half.

    Exactly...but trying to explain that to Rounders and Tommy is like trying to teach an old dog new tricks......they are stubborn pricks who want to come in my thread and just spew BS....I'm done with it.....I just don't understand why they are in my thread causing shit with me neither one has more than 13 posts and they are all in my thread and neither one has ever posted a play until the games are over....why not post a winner befor the game go final befor you start attacking anyone......I'm through with all of it, I'll just go on about betting my own games and staying to myself, why post on here and try and helpothers if you are only going to have 2 retards come on here and attack you? Not worth my time, so good luck all as this is my last post.......Hopefully I have shown enough people a winning system and they can use it to win some money!

     
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    FROM NOW ON ANY AND ALL PICKS AND POSTS WILL BE ON MY SPACE UNDER MY BLOG!!!!! THIS WAT I DON"T HAVE TO DEAL WITH DOUCHEBAGS LIKE ROUNDERS AND TOMMY....
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    FROM NOW ON ANY AND ALL PICKS AND POSTS WILL BE ON MY SPACE UNDER MY BLOG!!!!! THIS WAT I DON"T HAVE TO DEAL WITH DOUCHEBAGS LIKE ROUNDERS AND TOMMY....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rounders550:

    For those who have seen me and Porky going back and forth the past couple days, I will explain again why his system produced a losing bet last night.
     
    HOU -18.5 UAB
    halftime score was UAB 20, HOU 3
    2h line was HOU -11.5
    That now makes HOU +5 for the game now (can lose game by 5 and win 2h bet). That is a 24 point discount.
     
    Now since HOU was the favorite, you would take houston for 2h.
     
    These are the games that Porky losses. Why would anyone in their right nind take a dog with a new effective game line at -5 when they were +18.5 for the game?? And on the road nonetheless!!!!!
     
    So again, whenever there is a 10 point discount/middle, always take the favorite!!!!
     
    Look at prior posts for nfl stats.

    This is why your such a jerkoff, why not tell people the whole story?

    Why not tell them about the winner i had also, that you would have played the over?

    I also had under 20 2H Wake Forrest/Clemson, when the game was 3-0 at halftime and the total befor the game started was 42.

    So you would have pounded the over as now you could have a total of 23 instead of 42....typical Rounders550 move explain to all my one looser and disregard the winner....and never post a single play befor it goes final!!!!

     

    I'm sorry I know I said I wasn't going to post here again but I couldn't help myself......he is such a jerkoff, I had to respond!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rounders550:

    For those who have seen me and Porky going back and forth the past couple days, I will explain again why his system produced a losing bet last night.
     
    HOU -18.5 UAB
    halftime score was UAB 20, HOU 3
    2h line was HOU -11.5
    That now makes HOU +5 for the game now (can lose game by 5 and win 2h bet). That is a 24 point discount.
     
    Now since HOU was the favorite, you would take houston for 2h.
     
    These are the games that Porky losses. Why would anyone in their right nind take a dog with a new effective game line at -5 when they were +18.5 for the game?? And on the road nonetheless!!!!!
     
    So again, whenever there is a 10 point discount/middle, always take the favorite!!!!
     
    Look at prior posts for nfl stats.

    This is why your such a jerkoff, why not tell people the whole story?

    Why not tell them about the winner i had also, that you would have played the over?

    I also had under 20 2H Wake Forrest/Clemson, when the game was 3-0 at halftime and the total befor the game started was 42.

    So you would have pounded the over as now you could have a total of 23 instead of 42....typical Rounders550 move explain to all my one looser and disregard the winner....and never post a single play befor it goes final!!!!

     

    I'm sorry I know I said I wasn't going to post here again but I couldn't help myself......he is such a jerkoff, I had to respond!

     
     
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     hey pork, i feel you but leave that info on hear cuz dis is da only place i know where 2 go 2 for help.. Ive never been on myspace or anything of that nature. Don't allow another person to prevent you from sharing your wisdom with degenerates like myself lol

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     hey pork, i feel you but leave that info on hear cuz dis is da only place i know where 2 go 2 for help.. Ive never been on myspace or anything of that nature. Don't allow another person to prevent you from sharing your wisdom with degenerates like myself lol

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