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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 8:41 PM ET #551

    If Cleveland was 0-4 wod ppl show up to this game? Buff plus 4 and buff first half looking good
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 11:18 PM ET #552

    If game stays like this Cleveland backers lose buffalo money line losses, slow and steady wins the race 
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 11:25 PM ET #553

    Cleveland in FG range...public
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 11:32 PM ET #554

    0 for my last 2 thurs night 
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 6:35 AM ET #555

    Quote Originally Posted by wizard1183:

    I'd imagine it'd be a little difficult to script games. Fixes for gambling are very identifiable. I posted a video that proved that. I totally agree only17-20% of games are decided by the spread. But its not just point spreads you have to look at. Its the entire gambling picture. Lines are made and used to, you could predict the outcome regardless of a spread. Now with algorithms at work, take a look at sharp those lines are as a whole. Totals, teasers, ect. You mean to tell me a computer is that sharp to understand that bettign oe way or another using the numbers can guarantee a win? Humans play the game. Money is involved and there is corruption.Look at teams on paper. Why is it that it doesnt go according to that paper? If team A is elite and team B is sub par, then how is it team B covers a spread, a total, a teaser? How is it that team B comes back form behind on a last ditch effort to "almost" win the game? Team A just ran up the score and simply gave up? You mena to tell me in 7.5 minutes during half time, a coach gave a superhuman speech that gave confidence to his team to come out and come from behind to win or almost win the game? To cover the spread they shouldnt have covered? Many who dont believe in games having a fix want to to think that if it was fixed, it was fixed for a team to win or lose. Noone can guarantee a win except Joe Namath. But they CAN guarantee a loss.  Lines are made and ppl gamble and if somoen inside the circle of the NFL decides to gamble, they can manipulte things to win their bets.

    As for scripted. Well...if you look at certain instances such as 911 or Hurricane Katrina, it was a "feel good story" right? Last yr's Harbaugh vs Harbaugh. Rematch of ELI vs Brady. I guess the instance could feel that way. But imo, theres not enough there to make that prediction. If the Saints were to play Denver in this yrs SB, would it be scripted as a Brees vs Manning SB again? It's too hard to say. Sometimes I do feel feel there's instances where scripts are involved to make the game much more exciting. But to sit here and say before the season ever starts that team A will face team B in a SB is a little hard ot believe. I think perhaps it could be a story that progresses. But I know one thing: that its a billion dollar industry and its finding ways to make the most profit yr in and yr out...


    How can you have a story without a script? I agree with most of what you say... Football is more than just football.. 
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    I'd imagine it'd be a little difficult to script games. Fixes for gambling are very identifiable. I posted a video that proved that. I totally agree only17-20% of games are decided by the spread. But its not just point spreads you have to look at. Its the entire gambling picture. Lines are made and used to, you could predict the outcome regardless of a spread. Now with algorithms at work, take a look at sharp those lines are as a whole. Totals, teasers, ect. You mean to tell me a computer is that sharp to understand that bettign oe way or another using the numbers can guarantee a win? Humans play the game. Money is involved and there is corruption.Look at teams on paper. Why is it that it doesnt go according to that paper? If team A is elite and team B is sub par, then how is it team B covers a spread, a total, a teaser? How is it that team B comes back form behind on a last ditch effort to "almost" win the game? Team A just ran up the score and simply gave up? You mena to tell me in 7.5 minutes during half time, a coach gave a superhuman speech that gave confidence to his team to come out and come from behind to win or almost win the game? To cover the spread they shouldnt have covered? Many who dont believe in games having a fix want to to think that if it was fixed, it was fixed for a team to win or lose. Noone can guarantee a win except Joe Namath. But they CAN guarantee a loss.  Lines are made and ppl gamble and if somoen inside the circle of the NFL decides to gamble, they can manipulte things to win their bets.

    As for scripted. Well...if you look at certain instances such as 911 or Hurricane Katrina, it was a "feel good story" right? Last yr's Harbaugh vs Harbaugh. Rematch of ELI vs Brady. I guess the instance could feel that way. But imo, theres not enough there to make that prediction. If the Saints were to play Denver in this yrs SB, would it be scripted as a Brees vs Manning SB again? It's too hard to say. Sometimes I do feel feel there's instances where scripts are involved to make the game much more exciting. But to sit here and say before the season ever starts that team A will face team B in a SB is a little hard ot believe. I think perhaps it could be a story that progresses. But I know one thing: that its a billion dollar industry and its finding ways to make the most profit yr in and yr out...


    How can you have a story without a script? I agree with most of what you say... Football is more than just football.. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 5:50 PM ET #556

    We can never let this very informative post to end....Any thoughts this weekend????
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 6:26 PM ET #557

    ^^^^

    Lol, at this very informative thread. I was just thinking when is this waste of Internet space gonna end. What is sad is that's there's tons of young kids who are new to the game, and they peruse Covers to learn and to get an edge when betting their allowance money......and stupid s*it like this they have to see and corrupt them. 

    SMFH. 
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    Lol, at this very informative thread. I was just thinking when is this waste of Internet space gonna end. What is sad is that's there's tons of young kids who are new to the game, and they peruse Covers to learn and to get an edge when betting their allowance money......and stupid s*it like this they have to see and corrupt them. 

    SMFH. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 7:37 PM ET #558

    Suth th fuck up
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 8:00 PM ET #559

    Well, if anything, they'll learn about your word "corruption!".....Dream on!
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 9:25 PM ET #560

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/10/how-the-nfl-fleeces-taxpayers/309448/
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 10:30 PM ET #561

    I believe they "fleece" them pretty good!.....And do an admirable job of "other fleecing!"....Anyone got their fav picks?.
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 11:06 PM ET #562

    Where are HOLD and KABOONS??...NEED YOUR EXPERT SELECTIONS HERE!!!....
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2013 - 12:40 AM ET #563

    Fading will make you arrive back at 50%
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2013 - 1:58 AM ET #564

    I got owned Thursday, let's try this again, I'm 4-0 with th pats. I like CVinci this week to beat them, and I like cowboys with the points. Another ones? 
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    I got owned Thursday, let's try this again, I'm 4-0 with th pats. I like CVinci this week to beat them, and I like cowboys with the points. Another ones? 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2013 - 10:53 AM ET #565

    It's all about the "dinero"  mi amigo....And the Dallas game is a BIGGIE this week....No doubt heaviest watched all weekend....Denver is due for a little turnaround, as the "cro-magnon man" with that huge forehead has been known in these situations to "tank" a bit....So, with Jacksonville next on deck, AT DENVER, they could just say ==="ho hum" this week....But have Manning still get his stats...I do know this,...if they cover the next two weeks, into the crapper big time the following week....THAT is what I'm waiting for....But do agree there's a big possibility this week, esp. AT Dallas,, ,

    N.E., traditionally, when then do dive into the tank, usually it's a non conf. foe, and it comes as a big surprise, mostly away from  Foxboro....This fits that bill, and the line is such that many would dive into the Patriots....

    Speaking of TANKERS, RIVERS IS WAY OVERDUE....He loves and thrives at the bottom of the tank....TOO COMFY winning.....PRYOR is developing into quite a QB, AND THE BEST IS YET TO COME..Saw him play FB AND BB 8 times in HS....What a stud...His big knock was "short arming" his throws...He was sent to Florida in the summer to learn better throwing techniques....It's showing....He'll get good numbers running-passing, every week...

    Can the NYG go 0-5, and have Tom Coughlin's nuts hanging from the empire state building????....While a trumpet below bellows "TAPS?"....Mike V. is as unpredictable as a 14 year old virgin on her first date....Chip Kelly loves the "snatch" in Philly, but the entire NFL has caught on to that razzle dazzle garbage on offense....Poor Tom!....They might let him win one.....My best!!!!

    KC fits the bill too....Reid, at 4-0, will be too busy chowing his fat behind down on TENN. greasy food and southern poontang... 

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    It's all about the "dinero"  mi amigo....And the Dallas game is a BIGGIE this week....No doubt heaviest watched all weekend....Denver is due for a little turnaround, as the "cro-magnon man" with that huge forehead has been known in these situations to "tank" a bit....So, with Jacksonville next on deck, AT DENVER, they could just say ==="ho hum" this week....But have Manning still get his stats...I do know this,...if they cover the next two weeks, into the crapper big time the following week....THAT is what I'm waiting for....But do agree there's a big possibility this week, esp. AT Dallas,, ,

    N.E., traditionally, when then do dive into the tank, usually it's a non conf. foe, and it comes as a big surprise, mostly away from  Foxboro....This fits that bill, and the line is such that many would dive into the Patriots....

    Speaking of TANKERS, RIVERS IS WAY OVERDUE....He loves and thrives at the bottom of the tank....TOO COMFY winning.....PRYOR is developing into quite a QB, AND THE BEST IS YET TO COME..Saw him play FB AND BB 8 times in HS....What a stud...His big knock was "short arming" his throws...He was sent to Florida in the summer to learn better throwing techniques....It's showing....He'll get good numbers running-passing, every week...

    Can the NYG go 0-5, and have Tom Coughlin's nuts hanging from the empire state building????....While a trumpet below bellows "TAPS?"....Mike V. is as unpredictable as a 14 year old virgin on her first date....Chip Kelly loves the "snatch" in Philly, but the entire NFL has caught on to that razzle dazzle garbage on offense....Poor Tom!....They might let him win one.....My best!!!!

    KC fits the bill too....Reid, at 4-0, will be too busy chowing his fat behind down on TENN. greasy food and southern poontang... 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2013 - 6:37 PM ET #566

    Lol at Denver overlooking Dallas this week because Jax is looming. WTF ARE U TALKING ABOUT?? I think u got it backwards mister ive been a bookie for 40 years.
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    Lol at Denver overlooking Dallas this week because Jax is looming. WTF ARE U TALKING ABOUT?? I think u got it backwards mister ive been a bookie for 40 years.
     
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    For someone, GLYDE, THE BAD RIDE,, who supposedly claims to know quite a bit about football, you obviously pass piss poor in reading comprehension and understanding....I would like to know "where" I used the word "OVERLOOK??"....My inference(you might have to look up some of the vocabulary and terminology that I use!)to the Dallas game was simply that the "ho-hum" meant that they knew they could crush Jacksonville...Only someone as "pea-brained" as you would twist it that way!!..Who in the hell would be caught looking forward to Jacksonville?....Only your lunacy would conjure something like this up....And for someone who purportedly has "no interest" in this thread, you sure as hell linger around and make your ill founded, idiotic comments quite often...Hey, this thread has over 30,000 hits....Why not start your own rather than trying to bash this one?.... Invite your friends!!!!....You can have meetings in a phone booth....I'll say it again fool--"I WAS BOOKING WHEN YOU WERE HANGING IN YOUR OLD MANS NUTS!,,,,By the way, where are your picks????
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    For someone, GLYDE, THE BAD RIDE,, who supposedly claims to know quite a bit about football, you obviously pass piss poor in reading comprehension and understanding....I would like to know "where" I used the word "OVERLOOK??"....My inference(you might have to look up some of the vocabulary and terminology that I use!)to the Dallas game was simply that the "ho-hum" meant that they knew they could crush Jacksonville...Only someone as "pea-brained" as you would twist it that way!!..Who in the hell would be caught looking forward to Jacksonville?....Only your lunacy would conjure something like this up....And for someone who purportedly has "no interest" in this thread, you sure as hell linger around and make your ill founded, idiotic comments quite often...Hey, this thread has over 30,000 hits....Why not start your own rather than trying to bash this one?.... Invite your friends!!!!....You can have meetings in a phone booth....I'll say it again fool--"I WAS BOOKING WHEN YOU WERE HANGING IN YOUR OLD MANS NUTS!,,,,By the way, where are your picks????
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2013 - 10:28 PM ET #568

    By the way, SE ME OLVIDO!....COMO SIEMPRE, "VETE A LA MIERDA!...Got it jerk off????
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    By the way, SE ME OLVIDO!....COMO SIEMPRE, "VETE A LA MIERDA!...Got it jerk off????
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 2:16 AM ET #569

    Lol I like Dallas taking Dallas Philly 
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 2:24 AM ET #570

    Hmm, so with a probable 0-5 team on the horizon and Jax looking like one of the worst teams in recent history, the Broncos will play "ho-hum" as you call it THIS WEEK because of that.  Your old brain needs a rest. Are you getting enough sleep? Listen, if you are ever in the Monmouth County NJ area, I'll meet up with you and toss you a couple Viagra, then we will go on Backpages and I'll pay to get your old behind laid. You can tell the girl all about NFL fixes and how your little cousin used to fix games as a college QB, and how 40 years of being a supposed bookmaker, all you have to show for it is FADE THE PUBLIC FADE THE PUBLIC FADE THE PUBLIC. Hey, enjoy hitting 50% with that philosophy. 

    And hey, I lean Cowboys myself. I'm staying away because I see some better games on the card, but your reasoning behind it is asinine. 

    LMFAO. Broncos gonna lay down because they are playing Jax next week. ROFL. 
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    Hmm, so with a probable 0-5 team on the horizon and Jax looking like one of the worst teams in recent history, the Broncos will play "ho-hum" as you call it THIS WEEK because of that.  Your old brain needs a rest. Are you getting enough sleep? Listen, if you are ever in the Monmouth County NJ area, I'll meet up with you and toss you a couple Viagra, then we will go on Backpages and I'll pay to get your old behind laid. You can tell the girl all about NFL fixes and how your little cousin used to fix games as a college QB, and how 40 years of being a supposed bookmaker, all you have to show for it is FADE THE PUBLIC FADE THE PUBLIC FADE THE PUBLIC. Hey, enjoy hitting 50% with that philosophy. 

    And hey, I lean Cowboys myself. I'm staying away because I see some better games on the card, but your reasoning behind it is asinine. 

    LMFAO. Broncos gonna lay down because they are playing Jax next week. ROFL. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 2:43 AM ET #571

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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 4:02 AM ET #572

    I think if I had power to fix an outcome (game) I would use it. Most men are corruptible and contemptible. It's just a  game and that's how they see it. it isn't a battle of good vs evil deciding the fate of the planet and so on. People and players got no qualms about knowing which way the money will flow after a game.
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    I think if I had power to fix an outcome (game) I would use it. Most men are corruptible and contemptible. It's just a  game and that's how they see it. it isn't a battle of good vs evil deciding the fate of the planet and so on. People and players got no qualms about knowing which way the money will flow after a game.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 9:59 AM ET #573

    I still don't see any picks "thread troll!"....Long on mouth, short on selections....  You just scan the threads and try to bash....Actually "pencil neck," I'll be near Monmouth in a few weeks, as I have a nephew there that played 6 seasons with two different teams in the NFL....NYG AND CLEVELAND...To me there was nothing as validating as  "hearing it from the horses mouth!"...Now who knows more, HIM or you....Years ago, a guy came up to us, including another team member, at the track near there..He  knew both players,handed us a paper, and on it were 10 of 12 winners that day....Nah!!....NOTHINGS FIXED!!...OTRA VEZ, "VETE A LA MIERDA!"....We're all looking forward to your selections for today.....I know you gotta have 5-6 , Eh?.....Put up or shut up!
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    I still don't see any picks "thread troll!"....Long on mouth, short on selections....  You just scan the threads and try to bash....Actually "pencil neck," I'll be near Monmouth in a few weeks, as I have a nephew there that played 6 seasons with two different teams in the NFL....NYG AND CLEVELAND...To me there was nothing as validating as  "hearing it from the horses mouth!"...Now who knows more, HIM or you....Years ago, a guy came up to us, including another team member, at the track near there..He  knew both players,handed us a paper, and on it were 10 of 12 winners that day....Nah!!....NOTHINGS FIXED!!...OTRA VEZ, "VETE A LA MIERDA!"....We're all looking forward to your selections for today.....I know you gotta have 5-6 , Eh?.....Put up or shut up!
     
    minhstan
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 10:09 AM ET #574

    Glyde69 you are funny shittt. Can you give me somemof that candy. I live in redbank. 
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 11:40 AM ET #575

    People friends weekends are pick days, week days are discussion days. What the picks everyone ? 
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