Lines dictates the game....

Peyton killing me in every which way 

I agree 100 percent that games or players or even coaches somehow script games or fix games because what's the odds of games coming close to exactly what the line is or even a half point? Let alone it happens on a consistent basis! Coincidence? He'll no! There needs to be a helping hand somewhere somehow to influence and make things happen the way they do. It just doesn't add up. However there's a lot of gamblers in the world and no matter our opinions people will always bet period!

Faders win. Look at the New England game. Lol

what if ATL wins by -1 omg 

The only thing lines dictate is your bet! If you think the nfl is fixed then you shouldn't be betting. It's stupid to say you bet to enjoy the game knowing it's fixed because how can you enjoy it when you know it's fixed. Also, if you look at it from that perspective you shouldn't say only some games are fixed because every game you lose looks like they fixed it so you can lose.

Who we like tonight ladies & gents?

If over 70 percent are on Atlanta, normally go opposite....However, they sodomized the bettors last night, and they might let guys have one tonight....Tough to go against the Saints at home, and Brees....Leads to N.O.....

Ive learned the hard way as well. When people are pounding one side & the line sits tight thats when you ask yourself why? And dont give me the bs about huge sharp money offsetting it...

Good thread btw

I chased with ne and won, nfl loves Brady, leaning saints but will wait til next week. Rams philly had me in the hole. Pats will be a fade once they are healthy

AGAIN FOR DOCUMENTATION.....WWW.THEFIXISIN.....DON'T HAVE TO SAY MORE...GO THERE, OPEN YOUR MIND AND EYES.....YEARS AGO, WHEN THE AFC PLAYED THE NFC FOR THE FIRST SUPER BOWL, THE JETS WERE 17 PT. DOGS....JOE NAMATH, OF JET FAME, LAY ON THE BEACH AND SAID--"WE WILL WIN THE GAME OUTRIGHT....OF COURSE, THE NFL WANTED THE AFC TO" BE ON PAR" WITH THE NFC....QUITE NATURALLY, THE JETS WON OUTRIGHT, AS NAMATH STATED....THE DEFENSIVE END FOR  BALTIMORE(BELIEVE IT WAS SMITH) WAS QUOTED IN A LENGTHY  TV  INTERVIEW ON CBS YEARS LATER, THAT INDEED THEY "LAID DOWN!"....FACT--JOE NAMATH WAS INVESTIGATED AND PROVEN TO HAVE "TIES" TO THE RACKETS....SHARED OWNERSHIP OF A COUPLE OF RESTAURANTS WITH THEM IN NEW YORK....YEARS AGO, ALEX KARAS AND PAUL HORNUNG WERE INDICTED FOR "BETTING FOR OR  AGAINST THEIR TEAM, " THE LIONS,  ALA PETE ROSE....I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE WILL NOT ACCEPT THE FACT THAT---"WHERE THERE IS MONEY, THERE'S CORRUPTION!"...TO WIN IN THE NFL YOU MUST BET "AGAINST " YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT A GAME....YOU'LL WIN A HELL OF A LOT MORE THAN LOSE....VEGAS IS SUPER, SUPER SMART WITH GUYS WHO KNOW "HOW
" TO SET A LINE....HOW TO LURE YOU IN...AND IN THE PLAYOFFS, AND  DO REMEMBER THIS, THE "SUREST BET" WILL LOSE OUTRIGHT, USUALLY AT HOME...AND THAT MIGHT BE DENVER.. THE SETUP IS THERE ALREADY.....DREAM ON GUYS!..THE "TOOTH FAIRY" IS AT YOUR DOOR!!!!....

Wow....this thread is right on the money! It seems as if you took a large enough sample of bets that makes the MOST sense to you and fade yourself on each and every one you would come out on top!!! Its just very difficult to go against what makes the most sense which is why most and nearly all ppl that bet sports lose money in the long run. I know i havent been doing well but i just started not to long ago. TOO MANY TIMES I WENT WITH A BET I FEEL FULLY CONFIDENT IN ONLY TO MISS THE COVER BY .5 TO 2.5 PTS IN THE FINAL SECONDS OF THE GAME!!! Think ima start trying something new next week

Lol its all fixed, run for the hills. 

roger goodell was responsible for 9-11. i cant quite prove it yet. that being said take fins ML... the powers that be want you to bet NO.. don do it.

Trust me, the NFL does "throw the bettor a bone" now and then, especially after they clean up on a Sunday....It's kinda obvious tonight to take the SAINTS, but, over 70 percent are on them....However, after rebuilding and spending tons on the team, it could be" MIAMI'S COMING OUT PARTY!?"....It still is all about the MONEY....With the line at 7, VEGAS AND BOOKS HAVE TONS riding on teasers coupling N.O. with them....With one quick swipe they can wipe them out...My mind says N.O., but Cinderella may get the glass slipper tonight..Of course,gonna "el paso!. Bet one game yesterday-----MINNESOTA....Loved the Steelers....Line goes from pic to -3 for Steelers...Knew Steelers were going down then...People bet the name, just like the Giants....So tonight, they're betting a name too--- N.O.....GOTTA MOVE THE MONEY AROUND EVERY YEAR, FROM CITY TO CITY.....N.O. has ben there too many times.....GOOD LUCK!!

Same here tank no bet might not even watch the game 

Here's a tidbit for you to watch....I'll sit out  next week and watch which teams are STILL undefeated and perfect against the spread...MUST BE BOTH....So, in week 6, I GO AGAINST THOSE TEAMS....If I DO "NOT HIT," I DOUBLE OR TRIPLE UP THE NEXT WEEK...Very, very seldom will they let a team COVER 7 in a row...So, I'll sit and wait for the RIGHT SPOT...After I collect on that , and I WILL, I'll wait for my next system to "kick in!"....It's still 7-0 NEW ORLEANS, AND I STILL LOVE THE FINS!!.....We'll see what happens....See ya fellows!...REMEMBER, YOU'RE ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR LAST BET!!!!...

do u remember a game a few years ago, sandiego chargers at pittsburgh.   at one point in the game, the steelers had 11 penalties to ZERO for the chargers.  the steelers won the game but the chargers covered the spread

Ok I have been watching the game. After hearing so much how good the saints offense is and who they should score. A million PTs, lets not forget saints emphasis is defense this year. Under second half when it comes out 

No fix.

Ty refs for all the holding calls and the fumble on the 2 and the easy missed fg, under was a winner ! Lol no idea of it was fixed but that was weird ish 

I would say that roughly 80 percent of it is quite weird!!!!..But then again, so was my ex wife!

I really think rather than starting a  new thread, let's just concentrate here on  next weeks lines, discuss if they're fishy to you or whatever, and even make some predictions....Here are some short and long term ones....Jacksonville will cover SOON--they are killing Vegas...People think they can beat Alabama.....NEVERRRRRRRR!....The Broncos WILL NOT cover shortly, and DO WATCH HOW GOOD MANNING IS in manipulating it the other way.......Will Dallas beat Denver??....That's a HUGE MONEY game with two of the most heavily bet teams in the NFL....Denver is away!...What ya think guys?....Let's keep it going here!!!!!.....

FAKE LINE MOVEMENTS....Many people, er bettors, play only the "LINE."....Here's an example of how VEGAS manipulates the lines by moving them opposite to sway the line bettors....On Saturday night, USC is at Arizona ST....Kiffin the USC coach is about to be fired...Arizona St. has a  pretty damned good team, and is less than a TD fav.....The line moves in FAVOR of USC the downbeaten dog?.PRE GAME IT MOVES DOWN MORE....Now a smart capper will lay off, spotting a "rat in the woodpile!"....Those that watch the line take a shot of preparation H up the rear....No way possible the line should have moved on USC....The line was manipulated...A FAKE LINE MOVEMENT!...They do it now and then...VERY, VERY SMART TO SWAY PEOPLE THE OTHER WAY....Good luck!...P.S....Kiffin is fired after the game.