Let's Discuss Broncos @ Raiders

Let's let this line come in to 9 then LOAD UP on the Broncos!

Has anyone else noticed that it is taking Manning almost a full HALF to find his rhythm with his receivers over the last few weeks especially? Almost a regression from the groove they were in from Week 5-9.

I cut him some slack vs. a couple of good secondaries but this week he had # 32 ranked TB without Wright and he was still abysmal for almost a full half. He does not trust Decker for the last 4 weeks now and unless he is trailing good teams who came out flying they will not have to fight to bounce back.

Additionally his defense is now ranked 4th overrall (3rd in fantasy pts). which takes pressure off of him.

He already blew these guys out at home earlier this year but its always different 2nd time you meet a divisional rival and now they are laying way more points and on the ROAD.

He defs steps up on prime time games but the cardinal rule is to take points of this magnitude (DD) WITH A HOME DOG in a divisional rival game.

I'd also like to point out that TWICE DENVER has been back doored as 8.5 chalk this year ( SD and TB)

Addendum: The more I look at this game; OAK is money.

Run DMC waiting the extra 5 days to come back with fresh legs.

The emotion of Coach Allen's father's death

Home dogs of 8+ are over 90% the L3 seasons.

The rare prime time games at this stadium always see this place rock off the charts let alone a div. rival who travels on a short week as DD road chalk and already has their div. wrapped...need I say anymore.

Oh yes...put some on the ML as well!!

i took oakland at home last week against the browns after they got crushed by the bengals the week before....the browns i knew under rated but thought palmer would beat rookie quarterback at home after road loss..no...and this week against Denver?... no....looks like 45 to 10 game to me....someone tell me one good thing, one good part of oakland's game that is any good...

Hmmmm I may have stuck my
Foot in my mouth, I had no idea the readers coach father died that gives me a
Lean on oakytown now lol ..... I picked Denver by 20+ until I hear of the head coaches dad dieying , that changes it for me

it seems though, DD divisional home dogs always cover some how, some way.  there seems more blowout games played as single digit favor than the DD favors in divisional game no matter how shitty the opponents are.

you guys who think it matters the coaches dad died are really grasping at straws

whoever said only a degen would bet on this game is dead on
this is a piece of garbage game every way you look at it and there are way better games on the board

the spread in this game is going to come down to a meaningless score one way or another with people on the losing side crying about how rigged the nfl is

littlevoice,

 

I had CLE as one of my top picks last week and had the score 19-17 so I was damn close.

My reasoning for CLE was based on the fact that they had just taken PIT down w/ 8 turnovers, lost a heartbreaker in OT to DAL where they sacked Romo 7 X and they had beaten SD 7-6 in Hurrricane Sandy horizontal rains.

The game last week in Oakland was supposed to be a mudbowl and the field was definite churned to mud by game's end but the incessant rain expected all day stopped early. CLE had played in that weather more than any team this year and I thought their 'D" alone would cause much more havoc and turnovers than they did.

CLE has been playing hard and .543 ball since week 5 and I believe that  was their 1st road win in 12 attempts.

But let's FF to this week and its a whole 'nother landscape and this game sets up beautifully for OAK and for the many reasons cited.

Add this note:

Denver had the toughest schedule in the league for the 1st 8 games and then it switched to the easiest for the back 8 (vs. .343 opp).

When you get this type of extreme change-up you also get linesmakers overvaluing the hot team and we have see that the last  3 of 4 weeks where SD and TB have covered 8.5 spreads.

Public sees OAK lose to what is perceived to be by many as "lowly" CLE squad and DEN   t.c.o.b. as usual. This fueled the line by prolly 1.5 pts.( imagine DEN would be 14.5 at home)

denver just clinched....oak has lost last five both SU ATS

UNDER PLAY MITE BE BETTER!!!!

You have convinced me to wager my house on the Raiders........thanks!

Sorry for the lenght, but here's how i see it  :

What is a FinesFan?

with mcfadden coming back i like to see dmc take over the game.

My thinking is the Broncos reallllllly want to beat the Raiders! Really!

I see all the Raider Fans pounding their chests after slaughtering the Broncos tomorrow proclaiming they're going to the Super Bowl as a wild card team this year

Denver is not sitting down yet. They are playing for homefield and first round bye. Why you guys think oakland is the play, thank you! I will fade you all and take Denver to the house. Prime time game, Peyton wins by 2 touchdowns all day.

I told myself I'm done betting the Raiders 3 weeks ago after I took the +9 against Baltimore and they got blown out by 30 somthing points.

Then I lied to myself and backed them again +8.5 against the Bengals. Bad choice.

Finally learned my lesson and faded them big last week against the Browns and won.

Still not sure if I will play this game at all tomorrow. Perhaps the over/under, but as far as sides go, it will either be a fade of the Raiders or no play at all (as it will be for the remainder of the year).

If you are a Fines Fan.........please explain?

Many players on the raiders should get "fines" for not showing up tomorrow. Denver -10 for the LARGE

Mimi Dolfines Fun?

On paper DEN should win by 3+ TDs. 

This season the Raiders were outscored by common opponents: 206-153 with a record of: 2-5 against them.  The Broncos outscored common opponents: 230-162 and have a record of: 7-1 against them.

OAK does indeed play better at home where they had 2 of their 3 wins this year.  I'm usually a dog bettor regardless of home vs. away (especially on big spreads), but I think OAK is just outclassed here.

I'm taking DEN minus 10.5.  Staying away from O/U though, but if I was forced to bet, I'd take UNDER - I don't think OAK is going to score much.

I believe that there was a JM system where you wait for teams to lose 3 games SU and ATS and then chase for three games has a very good record and this game would be game c.

I like 10 pts for sure but to add a 1/2 pt basically means two td's. but honestly radiers are dead sorry and not consistient at all and they might get blowed out. palmer is a time bomb for interceptions and i dont feel confortable puting my money on him... but with that being siad Radiers are due for a luck game where they are firing on all cylinders and keep a game competitive like when they played Atl 20-23 or when they beat Pit 34-31. but i think if radiers get behind it will be a wrap because palmer can not play from behind

+10.5 under 1h looks good