Congrats Steelers fans

Thats why we all will fade you . Loved how the Ravens was going to blow out Pitt

I said after the first drive, refs too much involved.  Personal foul on Troy uncalled for.   And from then on, you knew refs would dominate the game.

I agree with that. The crew for that game was flag happy & awful.

However, the hook didn't matter. You should stop proclaiming about it.

good game

 

no , no . no

you matcup better against the Pats

the 1st game was a throwout , you caught the pats are the worst time of the season , after the brown loss , and you guys were comnig off a road win on monday night vs a divisonal opponent

the jets can beat you guys again , you beat the patriots next time with no problems

 

The Jets didn't beat Pitt in the last game the refs did . No pass interference calls on the last drive and alot of BS call against Pitt

kinda like the refs beat the ravens yesterday right dude?

i'm telling you , the easier matchup for the steelers is the pats

the jets dl will be too much for the steelers too handle

you will not be able to run the ball with this patched up OL against the Jets

Whoa, thank god I avoided these.



Stuckey - You dont have to take this personal. The hook suckered a shitload of people into thinking they were getting a good line. It mattered, it really did. It increased a books handle immensely.

They love making money and the hook just increased that. There is no denying that fact. Whether or not, in your heart of hearts, that you think you should have been right, you were not. The hook is the reason many books won a dickload of money last night.

You arent too good for this, as evidenced by your picks. Take those purple and black sunglasses off before you look at your next game.

But, feel free to quote my posts and repeatedly talk at me instead of to me. Thats cool.

Here's another reason I hate these Chowderhead motherfuckers! Just worry about winning tonight fruitlips,there might not be a next week for you. Remember, as of late the Patriot's are coughing up fucking hairballs in big games the last 4 years. I think you may be crying in your fucking beansoup tonight

kinda like the refs beat the Ravens yesterday right dude?

Thats funny what game were you watching . I seen the refs helping out the Ravens . Raven only had 6 calls on them which there should of been around 20

First let me say I had no money on this game. I lost a pool championship last weekend when I went 0-4 and my NFL betting is done.

Second, I will now name 3 very prominent investigative reporters in the last 50 years off the top of my head, so you know I'm at least a conspiracy buff, and not a crybaby gambler. Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, the 2 reporters who connected the Watergate break-ins to Nixon. Dan Moldea, a very celebrated IR who linked the mafia to the NFL in the 1970's. Lately, Brian Tuohy has done a good job of exposing the NFL for fixing games. It's all circumstantial evidence, but that's what we get these days. We never get proof. We know that now.

This weekend, Balt +3 and especially Balt +3.5 was the lone 60%+ public team out of the 4 games. Last week, imo, there was New Orleans, Indy, and Baltimore. The public went 1-2 last week, but lost the New Orleans game to some very high-profile breakdowns in the New Orleans secondary, and it was capped off by the Lynch run. By the way, if you looked on the Covers boards last Saturday and Sunday, every teaser had New Orleans minus single digits in it. So .... the games the books would want to take this week were narrowed down to one game, and that is result = pitt -3.5

The Ben sack-and-fumble and the Mendenhall fumble were forced turnovers. Suggs got his hand on the ball when Ben didn't see him. Mendenhall had the ball in towards his body but got stripped in a crowd. Ben and Mendenhall did not just give the ball away. Bad ref's calls in the first half didn't stick with me too well, but I don't think it matters, because in the end, my story starts with:

Balt 21 Pitt 7

Setup - All Balt has to do is lose by 3 to get a push for most of the public. Millions of dollars are riding on Balt getting a push due to the unbalanced betting, imo.

1 - Rice fumbles for the first time this year, while holding the ball away from his body. Pitt scores a TD.
2 - Flacco airmails a bomb with the safety within jogging distance. Pitt drives and scores another TD.
3 - Flacco botches a snap and is not able to fall on it. Another turnover. Pitt FG. 3-point deficit.
4 - Boldin fails to catch a TD pass in his chest which would have given Balt a 4-pt lead. I won't cry about the punt-return TD getting taken away. That did seem to be a clear hold.
4 - Balt ties the game on a FG.
5 - Nakamura suspicously plays like a lazy piece of shxt on the Rothlis completed bomb.
6 - Refs call defensive holding during a running play on the 3 or 4 yard line after Pitt looks like they might not punch the ball into the end zone for the TD and the cover.
7 - Pitt gets the TD and not a FG. 60%+ public bet fails to cover.

For what I said to be a conspiracy, at least Flacco, Rice, Nakamura, and a ref or two had to be in on it. Didn't need more than that, but probably had more than that.

Let me just close by saying Pitt is a great team with great players and coaches, and is capable of winning the SB with a great QB like Rothlis and a defensive-MVP-guy like Polamalu making great plays. I do think this game was fixed, but I also respect Pittsburgh and think they can legitimately win games going forward.

Btw, if someone does not agree with my assessment of Balt +3 being the lone public game, I'm open to arguments.

Ryan Clark caused the fumble look again biased observer...rewind the dvr.....now.....go rewind it and look where Clark wrapped his arm around knocking the ball loose, get it straight you lost to the #1 defense in the nfl.....accept it and stop dreaming of how the game was lost due to it being " given away"...

The Ben sack-and-fumble and the Mendenhall fumble were forced turnovers



The Ray Rice fumble was a forced turnover.

The Mendenhall fumble happened when Steelers guard Chris Kemoeatu inadvertently hit the ball with his elbow.

Flacco botches a snap and is not able to fall on it.

He was rattled.

"To be honest, he must have gotten a little shook up," Harrison said. "He had guys hitting him.

Also,

Clark noticed an immediate change in Flacco.

"I saw him get a little rattled. I saw it when he fumbled that snap [on the Ravens' next possession]. He pulled out a little early. We were starting to put a lot of pressure on him. He knew we were coming and he had to pay attention to everybody. When you're up, 21-7, it's easy to be Joe Cool. It's not so easy when we're coming after you."

agree about that defensive holding call... i honestly don't remember the last time i saw a defensive holding call on a run up the middle, and that play clearly had an offensive holding right in front of the hand off... terrible call!

how do they call D holding on a run play ?  the fix was in !!

this is incorrect!  this was a coin flip game, where the sharps were jumping on Pitt at (-3) on one side, and sharps (not squares) were jumping on Balt (+3.5) on the other side!  that is why every book was either carrying a line of Pitt (-3) laying extra juice, or Balt (+3.5) laying extra juice... i would guess the handle on this game was dead in the middle, and the only bad scenario for the books would have been a 3 point win by Pitt...

i believe Nick Bogdanovich (one of the sharpest of the sharps) discussed this in his weekly line report, and was posted by Redskinsnutt here on Covers...

the only square plays on this game would have been Pitt (-3.5) or Balt (+3)...

I always get the Occam's Razor comment thrown my way for saying the things I do. That's the equivalent of dismissing me, and saying "argument over". That's the way it always goes for me. I write a borderline novel with arguments and motives, and get a few sentences in return with an Occam's Razor thrown in.

Boldin does have the ball bounce of his chest,your best case scenario was a 3 point win,not sure they'd even won,Raven's D would have played differently up 4,not tied,you missed a good game....

I write a borderline novel with arguments and motives

Er, you are wrong on some facts and are making nonsensical assertions.

You are implying Flacco is involved in a conspiracy. Why?
(He has two years remaining on a five-year, $29.75 million rookie contract I guess it helps the second contract to lose big games, right?)

Further, there is no motive for the Ravens to be involved in some "fix"

If Boldin doesn't .....

taken from Nick Bogdanovich's line report for this weekend, for the guy who said Baltimore was a square play (gotta love how people always show up after the fact with these brilliant claims about a game that was 50/50 at best):

https://www.vegassportsmasters.com/?q=article/nick-what-sharps-think-division-playoffs

BALTIMORE AT PITTSBURGH:
This game opened at Pittsburgh -3½, because oddsmakers were giving the Steelers credit for the bye week. These teams are so evenly matched, and play such close games against each other that "home team by three" will usually be the default number. Oddsmakers allotted a half point for the bye (which is a BIG half point when it moves off three), but sharps hit the dog immediately. They figure that points will be at a premium, and the bye probably won't matter much.

What will happen over the weekend? Squares (the general public) usually like favorites. But, this isn't a series where you can trust a favorite to win big. I'm interested to see myself. Sportsbooks know they'd get one-sided over the weekend with a half-point move either way (favorite money would pour in on Pittsburgh at -2½, and Baltimore at +3½). We won't see a move unless books need that money to balance out the wagers. Should three stay frozen, I would expect more sharps to like the dog at that price than the favorite given series history. Sharps like defensive dogs.

You do realize that Pitt had 9 penalties called against them compared to 6 called against Balty right?

you really need to just STFU RJ...arguing about the benefits of a hook are purely fukn retarded.  Regardless of the outcome of a game, Stuck was merely making a case for getting value where you rarely see it.  Obviously he was not alone as most books quickly juiced the hell out of it or moved it back to 3.

Grow up, shut up and just take your $10 win and be happy...learn the difference about blindly loving a play and putting reasoning behind it.  There is not a respected capper in here that would argue what Stuck or myself were saying last weekend....learn to know the difference kid.........

.learn the difference about blindly loving a play and putting reasoning behind it.

There was no "reasoning" behind it other than this personalized perception from a Ravens fan of "value"

And he lost, making the continued defense of it all the more idiotic.