Dallas performs well in primetime games except for the fact that they are 0-7 their last 7 Sunday night games and looked like a high school team against the Bears on MNF earlier this year. Other than that that they play great in primetime.
Is this accurate?? If so.............. although they still could cover & lose SU...........im assuming the 0-7 is SU?
Quote Originally Posted by seminole8:
Dallas performs well in primetime games except for the fact that they are 0-7 their last 7 Sunday night games and looked like a high school team against the Bears on MNF earlier this year. Other than that that they play great in primetime.
Is this accurate?? If so.............. although they still could cover & lose SU...........im assuming the 0-7 is SU?
I dont even like Dallas +11, think Atl blows them out. Romo sucks, receivers suck, fuck the whole organization sucks. And even though they should of beat Giants(after how many romo picks), they didnt cause they suck and romo will throw 3 or more picks and receivers will drop 6 balls and they'll lose by 13 or more. And this game means nothing to Atl, cmon man they are undefeated and not gonna lay down to romo and company....Atl 27 Dall 13
I dont even like Dallas +11, think Atl blows them out. Romo sucks, receivers suck, fuck the whole organization sucks. And even though they should of beat Giants(after how many romo picks), they didnt cause they suck and romo will throw 3 or more picks and receivers will drop 6 balls and they'll lose by 13 or more. And this game means nothing to Atl, cmon man they are undefeated and not gonna lay down to romo and company....Atl 27 Dall 13
But the Cowboys didnt exactly deserve to win either, they turned the ball over too much, and because they were down so big in the first half and refuse to even try to run the ball their first down numbers are inflated. Dallas is not a good team. Giants gave them every opportunity to win and they could not do it. Even the official running the play clock allowed them to get off 3 plays in 10 seconds, and they still didnt get it done. Here is why the Giants are a good team, they find ways to win on the road, not matter how shitty they look. In the NFL it has nothing to do with how pretty the win was as long as you win.
With all that being said, i agree that the Steelers will cover and probably win SU as you made the point, the Giants have a 3 game lead and this is a perfect spot to go against them.
Yes, this is a homer response
GL LC
But the Cowboys didnt exactly deserve to win either, they turned the ball over too much, and because they were down so big in the first half and refuse to even try to run the ball their first down numbers are inflated. Dallas is not a good team. Giants gave them every opportunity to win and they could not do it. Even the official running the play clock allowed them to get off 3 plays in 10 seconds, and they still didnt get it done. Here is why the Giants are a good team, they find ways to win on the road, not matter how shitty they look. In the NFL it has nothing to do with how pretty the win was as long as you win.
With all that being said, i agree that the Steelers will cover and probably win SU as you made the point, the Giants have a 3 game lead and this is a perfect spot to go against them.
Is this accurate?? If so.............. although they still could cover & lose SU...........im assuming the 0-7 is SU?
Not sure, but I hate to pay too much attention to trends. A couple of trends going the other way are the fact that the Cowboys are 5-0 ATS in their last 5 road games against teams with winning records and are 17-8 ATS in their last 25 games in November. The only reason I know this is because I wanted to check some stats that point towards the Boys as the above stat points against it. This is why I hate trends for the most part because you can find trends going whichever direction you want.
Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:
Is this accurate?? If so.............. although they still could cover & lose SU...........im assuming the 0-7 is SU?
Not sure, but I hate to pay too much attention to trends. A couple of trends going the other way are the fact that the Cowboys are 5-0 ATS in their last 5 road games against teams with winning records and are 17-8 ATS in their last 25 games in November. The only reason I know this is because I wanted to check some stats that point towards the Boys as the above stat points against it. This is why I hate trends for the most part because you can find trends going whichever direction you want.
I guessed these on your other thread. Those 2 picks really stood out on the this weeks card for me. I think these are 2 great situational plays and I'm pleased I'm thinking much like you right now.
Also, I'm sure you already know that the away dogs this season have racked up a 48-26-3 record. That's not a bad trend to be on the right side of..
BOL
LC
I guessed these on your other thread. Those 2 picks really stood out on the this weeks card for me. I think these are 2 great situational plays and I'm pleased I'm thinking much like you right now.
Also, I'm sure you already know that the away dogs this season have racked up a 48-26-3 record. That's not a bad trend to be on the right side of..
LC, I will warn you about the Giants pick, as you know I am a huge fan and I am smart enough to know that can sway my opinion whether I realize it or not. Now they were my best pick last week, I knew (well I was extremely confident) we would beat the cowboys, and cover. I see where you say the Giants didn't deserve the win, couldn't disagree more, you see as a Giants fan I know this team psyche pretty well, and when we get a lead, we get cocky/confident an we turn it off and go into auto-pilot. You don't go up 23-0 by luck. What happened was we got relaxed even with the play-calling, its one of our frustrating signatures, we just don't blow people out of the building. Now, did the Cowboys take advantage of that and put a great second half together, hell yes. Did they outplay us in the second half, pretty much, but you know how it goes good teams find a way to win, even if it's ugly.
All this to say, I am sure you have not watched every single minute of Giant football, I obviously have, and let me tell you, we won a "few" games this year, and rhythm wasn't an issue. The reason we looked out of sync was we played Bradshaw who was hurting. The run game couldn't get going. The Giants are conservative, we like playing veterans, even when they may be hampered a little with an injury, and that hurt us.
As far as motivation, a two game lead at mid-season in the NFC East means nothing especially that we have to play the Redskins and Eagles again, AND we have 2 loses IN the division.
So, although in NO WAY am I predicting a Giant win/cover, I am just saying you may want to question your reasoning. No matter what good luck! I hope Dallas hits for you, I am undecided on that one but you make a great case for them!
nyg due for a SU loss last loss was to philly week 3( think)....
Quote Originally Posted by tonyrome:
LC, I will warn you about the Giants pick, as you know I am a huge fan and I am smart enough to know that can sway my opinion whether I realize it or not. Now they were my best pick last week, I knew (well I was extremely confident) we would beat the cowboys, and cover. I see where you say the Giants didn't deserve the win, couldn't disagree more, you see as a Giants fan I know this team psyche pretty well, and when we get a lead, we get cocky/confident an we turn it off and go into auto-pilot. You don't go up 23-0 by luck. What happened was we got relaxed even with the play-calling, its one of our frustrating signatures, we just don't blow people out of the building. Now, did the Cowboys take advantage of that and put a great second half together, hell yes. Did they outplay us in the second half, pretty much, but you know how it goes good teams find a way to win, even if it's ugly.
All this to say, I am sure you have not watched every single minute of Giant football, I obviously have, and let me tell you, we won a "few" games this year, and rhythm wasn't an issue. The reason we looked out of sync was we played Bradshaw who was hurting. The run game couldn't get going. The Giants are conservative, we like playing veterans, even when they may be hampered a little with an injury, and that hurt us.
As far as motivation, a two game lead at mid-season in the NFC East means nothing especially that we have to play the Redskins and Eagles again, AND we have 2 loses IN the division.
So, although in NO WAY am I predicting a Giant win/cover, I am just saying you may want to question your reasoning. No matter what good luck! I hope Dallas hits for you, I am undecided on that one but you make a great case for them!
nyg due for a SU loss last loss was to philly week 3( think)....
your wrong about a 2 game lead meaning nuffin (tonyrome).....theres is an angle saying bet AGAINST any team with a 2 game lead at any point in the season....
your wrong about a 2 game lead meaning nuffin (tonyrome).....theres is an angle saying bet AGAINST any team with a 2 game lead at any point in the season....
your wrong about a 2 game lead meaning nuffin (tonyrome).....theres is an angle saying bet AGAINST any team with a 2 game lead at any point in the season....
We very well may be due for a loss, I myself WOULD take Steelers if I bet this game, but for way different reasons, and it is not a strong bet, just if I had to bet it.
The whole thing about betting on a team with a two game lead may or may not be a legitimate trend, but LC wasn't referring to it as a trend, he was saying the game didn't mean anything to them because we have a 2 game lead, that is terrible reasoning, although I totally respect LC, every game means something especially when the Giants have TWO losses in the division already.
Quote Originally Posted by bobafett:
your wrong about a 2 game lead meaning nuffin (tonyrome).....theres is an angle saying bet AGAINST any team with a 2 game lead at any point in the season....
We very well may be due for a loss, I myself WOULD take Steelers if I bet this game, but for way different reasons, and it is not a strong bet, just if I had to bet it.
The whole thing about betting on a team with a two game lead may or may not be a legitimate trend, but LC wasn't referring to it as a trend, he was saying the game didn't mean anything to them because we have a 2 game lead, that is terrible reasoning, although I totally respect LC, every game means something especially when the Giants have TWO losses in the division already.
I'm not making any bet based on the "due" factor. Dallas is a desperate team catching 4 points against a complacent ATL team who has beaten everyone they've faced so far. DAL has a much better defense than anyone ATL has faced despite having one of the toughest strength of schedules thus far. If you think teams give it their all each week and don't get complacent with a big division lead take a look at the Bears last week when they faced a desperate team. They needed a miracle to win that game and Carolina covered wire to wire.
Not telling anyone to tail here but those putting their money on ATL will not be enjoying the game
I'm not making any bet based on the "due" factor. Dallas is a desperate team catching 4 points against a complacent ATL team who has beaten everyone they've faced so far. DAL has a much better defense than anyone ATL has faced despite having one of the toughest strength of schedules thus far. If you think teams give it their all each week and don't get complacent with a big division lead take a look at the Bears last week when they faced a desperate team. They needed a miracle to win that game and Carolina covered wire to wire.
Not telling anyone to tail here but those putting their money on ATL will not be enjoying the game
LC, I will warn you about the Giants pick, as you know I am a huge fan and I am smart enough to know that can sway my opinion whether I realize it or not. Now they were my best pick last week, I knew (well I was extremely confident) we would beat the cowboys, and cover. I see where you say the Giants didn't deserve the win, couldn't disagree more, you see as a Giants fan I know this team psyche pretty well, and when we get a lead, we get cocky/confident an we turn it off and go into auto-pilot. You don't go up 23-0 by luck. What happened was we got relaxed even with the play-calling, its one of our frustrating signatures, we just don't blow people out of the building. Now, did the Cowboys take advantage of that and put a great second half together, hell yes. Did they outplay us in the second half, pretty much, but you know how it goes good teams find a way to win, even if it's ugly.
All this to say, I am sure you have not watched every single minute of Giant football, I obviously have, and let me tell you, we won a "few" games this year, and rhythm wasn't an issue. The reason we looked out of sync was we played Bradshaw who was hurting. The run game couldn't get going. The Giants are conservative, we like playing veterans, even when they may be hampered a little with an injury, and that hurt us.
As far as motivation, a two game lead at mid-season in the NFC East means nothing especially that we have to play the Redskins and Eagles again, AND we have 2 loses IN the division.
So, although in NO WAY am I predicting a Giant win/cover, I am just saying you may want to question your reasoning. No matter what good luck! I hope Dallas hits for you, I am undecided on that one but you make a great case for them!
Giants playcalling is terrible when they have a big lead I agree but Dallas outplayed them in every facet of the game. The Giants will continue to get everyone's superbowl and will start piling up some losses, count on it.
Quote Originally Posted by tonyrome:
LC, I will warn you about the Giants pick, as you know I am a huge fan and I am smart enough to know that can sway my opinion whether I realize it or not. Now they were my best pick last week, I knew (well I was extremely confident) we would beat the cowboys, and cover. I see where you say the Giants didn't deserve the win, couldn't disagree more, you see as a Giants fan I know this team psyche pretty well, and when we get a lead, we get cocky/confident an we turn it off and go into auto-pilot. You don't go up 23-0 by luck. What happened was we got relaxed even with the play-calling, its one of our frustrating signatures, we just don't blow people out of the building. Now, did the Cowboys take advantage of that and put a great second half together, hell yes. Did they outplay us in the second half, pretty much, but you know how it goes good teams find a way to win, even if it's ugly.
All this to say, I am sure you have not watched every single minute of Giant football, I obviously have, and let me tell you, we won a "few" games this year, and rhythm wasn't an issue. The reason we looked out of sync was we played Bradshaw who was hurting. The run game couldn't get going. The Giants are conservative, we like playing veterans, even when they may be hampered a little with an injury, and that hurt us.
As far as motivation, a two game lead at mid-season in the NFC East means nothing especially that we have to play the Redskins and Eagles again, AND we have 2 loses IN the division.
So, although in NO WAY am I predicting a Giant win/cover, I am just saying you may want to question your reasoning. No matter what good luck! I hope Dallas hits for you, I am undecided on that one but you make a great case for them!
Giants playcalling is terrible when they have a big lead I agree but Dallas outplayed them in every facet of the game. The Giants will continue to get everyone's superbowl and will start piling up some losses, count on it.
I'm not making any bet based on the "due" factor. Dallas is a desperate team catching 4 points against a complacent ATL team who has beaten everyone they've faced so far. DAL has a much better defense than anyone ATL has faced despite having one of the toughest strength of schedules thus far. If you think teams give it their all each week and don't get complacent with a big division lead take a look at the Bears last week when they faced a desperate team. They needed a miracle to win that game and Carolina covered wire to wire.
Not telling anyone to tail here but those putting their money on ATL will not be enjoying the game
I'm pretty sure he was referring to Bobafett, not you LC.
Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:
I'm not making any bet based on the "due" factor. Dallas is a desperate team catching 4 points against a complacent ATL team who has beaten everyone they've faced so far. DAL has a much better defense than anyone ATL has faced despite having one of the toughest strength of schedules thus far. If you think teams give it their all each week and don't get complacent with a big division lead take a look at the Bears last week when they faced a desperate team. They needed a miracle to win that game and Carolina covered wire to wire.
Not telling anyone to tail here but those putting their money on ATL will not be enjoying the game
I'm pretty sure he was referring to Bobafett, not you LC.
Favs. pk to -6 going into " bye " are 0-9ats this yr., 15-44 ats prior.
Redskins a play against here. Plus dog 5-0 ats in D.C. since 1995, when these 2 meet.
What's your take on this game LC ? BOL
Washington without a doubt is a play against this week, would be a big play for me if CAR didn't suffer such a big emotional loss last week but their desperate for a win so they'll get up for this game.
Quote Originally Posted by Bronco6:
Favs. pk to -6 going into " bye " are 0-9ats this yr., 15-44 ats prior.
Redskins a play against here. Plus dog 5-0 ats in D.C. since 1995, when these 2 meet.
What's your take on this game LC ? BOL
Washington without a doubt is a play against this week, would be a big play for me if CAR didn't suffer such a big emotional loss last week but their desperate for a win so they'll get up for this game.
Long time follower, rarely post anything. LC you are the best. Keep up the good work!!
Yes Washington going into a bye as a small fav fits the trend. It's still a no play for you LC?
I might be adding 2 smaller plays. Just trying to be selective. Posted this thread early cuz ppl kept buggin about what side i was going big on. Will have more thoughts on that game shortly
Quote Originally Posted by JHaef28:
Long time follower, rarely post anything. LC you are the best. Keep up the good work!!
Yes Washington going into a bye as a small fav fits the trend. It's still a no play for you LC?
I might be adding 2 smaller plays. Just trying to be selective. Posted this thread early cuz ppl kept buggin about what side i was going big on. Will have more thoughts on that game shortly
It looks like odds makers agree with your Cowboys pick. I mean c'mon, the undefeated Falcons only -4 at home in primetime versus the pathetic and dysfunctional Cowboys?
Looks too easy......and we know what that usually means, right?
Excellent assessment of both games LC...
cheers
It looks like odds makers agree with your Cowboys pick. I mean c'mon, the undefeated Falcons only -4 at home in primetime versus the pathetic and dysfunctional Cowboys?
Looks too easy......and we know what that usually means, right?
although they still could cover & lose SU...........im assuming the 0-7 is SU?
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