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    "GAMBLING CAN MAKE YOU MONEY, BUT AINT GOING TO MAKE YOU RICH" WHAT YOU SAY GUYS???

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    Raging_Fetus
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    Posted: May. 8, 2010 - 11:07 PM ET #101

    lol, ok man. your right. we screwed up. how did you not get elected president?
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    cd329
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    Posted: May. 8, 2010 - 11:21 PM ET #102

    I just went to the arizona site and this insurance is based on income and if they knew you were making 85k a year, you wouldnt be getting free health insurance.

    heres one example on their website

    Examples of Fraud & Abuse

    Some examples of member and provider fraud and abuse are provided as follows:

    Member Fraud & Abuse

    • Eligibility Determination Issues that include the following items:
      • Resource Misrepresentation (Transfer / Hiding )
      • Residency
      • Household Composition
      • Citizenship Status
      • Unreported Income
      • Misrepresentation of Medical Condition
      • Failure to Report Third Party Liability (TPL)

    See what it says resource misrepresentation and unreported income, both of which talk directly about you.

     

    Heres the website, maybe you should actually read the rules for getting the insurance, instead of telling us bullshit.

    https://www.azahcccs.gov/Default.aspx

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    I just went to the arizona site and this insurance is based on income and if they knew you were making 85k a year, you wouldnt be getting free health insurance.

    heres one example on their website

    Examples of Fraud & Abuse

    Some examples of member and provider fraud and abuse are provided as follows:

    Member Fraud & Abuse

    • Eligibility Determination Issues that include the following items:
      • Resource Misrepresentation (Transfer / Hiding )
      • Residency
      • Household Composition
      • Citizenship Status
      • Unreported Income
      • Misrepresentation of Medical Condition
      • Failure to Report Third Party Liability (TPL)

    See what it says resource misrepresentation and unreported income, both of which talk directly about you.

     

    Heres the website, maybe you should actually read the rules for getting the insurance, instead of telling us bullshit.

    https://www.azahcccs.gov/Default.aspx

     
    cd329
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    Posted: May. 8, 2010 - 11:23 PM ET #103

    Quote Originally Posted by Raging_Fetus:

    lol, ok man. your right. we screwed up. how did you not get elected president?

     

    Please this has nothing to do with universal health care, so quit beating that dead horse.  Even if we had universal health care, you wouldnt qualify for free health insurance if the govt knew how much cash you were really making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raging_Fetus:

    lol, ok man. your right. we screwed up. how did you not get elected president?

     

    Please this has nothing to do with universal health care, so quit beating that dead horse.  Even if we had universal health care, you wouldnt qualify for free health insurance if the govt knew how much cash you were really making.

     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2010 - 4:47 AM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by Raging_Fetus:

    tallyguyindc, I applied for a Passport about 7 years ago. I recieved a letter a few weeks later saying they need more information to prove my identity. They wanted copies of my high school diploma, college transcript. A letter from a friend and a family member confirming my identity and another birth certificate. So I sent it all. About 9 weeks later I received another letter saying I am being denied a passport at this time and can re apply in 3 years. Well I obviously looked into everything. I found out what happened was I requested a payout from an online Sportsbook via wire transfer to Wells Fargo bank. Wells Fargo declined the wire transfer because there was no funds in the account the wire transfer was from. The problem apparently was that the Bank in Antiqua the money was coming from used a portal bank in Hartford, CT to be able to get the money into the USA. The bank in Antiqua was not licensed by the World Bank or the WTO the World Trade Organization meaning they were not allowed to keep funds in any bank that is licensed by those groups. Anyway, the Portal bank in Hartford had an account that belonged to this bank from Antiqua but due to the federal regulations they were not allowed to actually keep money in the bank, they just take the money from the bank in Antiqua and then send it to a bank like Wells Fargo. The problem was when Wells Fargo called the bank in Hartford their was no money in the account, so they got the holder of the account and contacted them, them being the Bank in Antiqua. That is when the problem occurred. They saw I was trying to receive funds from a bad bank basically. They reported me to the United States treasury department, which in return sent the proper paperwork to State Department putting me on a list of people who were being declined passports. This was only about 18 months after 9/11, so they were being overly cautious, which I understand. Im guessing they looked at it as the money could have been being used to buy and finance things against the USA. Since I was using an unlicensed bank as well as it being off shore in the first place. BTW i have tried again in 2006 and 2009 to get my passport and have been denied both times.

     

    Something about this seems very strange.  Its almost like you are being denied a passport as a penalty for using a bad bank.  That seems very weird.  I googled it and didn't get any hits on anything similar.  The US is extremely cautious about who they let into the country but relatively lax about who they let out. Most of the things I read said that you could be denied a passport if you owed back taxes or child support, were the subject of a current investigation or were a convicted drug trafficker.  The basic idea is not to let you out if they want something (jail time or money) from you. 

    This is what is weird about your case.  You didn't mention being charged with a crime for the bank thing or being sent a bill for back taxes.  It just doesn't seem like a bad check is enough to deny a passport.  Even if it was, it seems like the passport would be a side effect of a larger case and not the main form of government punishment.

    I'd definitely hire an attorney to look into it if I were you.

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    tallyguyindc, I applied for a Passport about 7 years ago. I recieved a letter a few weeks later saying they need more information to prove my identity. They wanted copies of my high school diploma, college transcript. A letter from a friend and a family member confirming my identity and another birth certificate. So I sent it all. About 9 weeks later I received another letter saying I am being denied a passport at this time and can re apply in 3 years. Well I obviously looked into everything. I found out what happened was I requested a payout from an online Sportsbook via wire transfer to Wells Fargo bank. Wells Fargo declined the wire transfer because there was no funds in the account the wire transfer was from. The problem apparently was that the Bank in Antiqua the money was coming from used a portal bank in Hartford, CT to be able to get the money into the USA. The bank in Antiqua was not licensed by the World Bank or the WTO the World Trade Organization meaning they were not allowed to keep funds in any bank that is licensed by those groups. Anyway, the Portal bank in Hartford had an account that belonged to this bank from Antiqua but due to the federal regulations they were not allowed to actually keep money in the bank, they just take the money from the bank in Antiqua and then send it to a bank like Wells Fargo. The problem was when Wells Fargo called the bank in Hartford their was no money in the account, so they got the holder of the account and contacted them, them being the Bank in Antiqua. That is when the problem occurred. They saw I was trying to receive funds from a bad bank basically. They reported me to the United States treasury department, which in return sent the proper paperwork to State Department putting me on a list of people who were being declined passports. This was only about 18 months after 9/11, so they were being overly cautious, which I understand. Im guessing they looked at it as the money could have been being used to buy and finance things against the USA. Since I was using an unlicensed bank as well as it being off shore in the first place. BTW i have tried again in 2006 and 2009 to get my passport and have been denied both times.

     

    Something about this seems very strange.  Its almost like you are being denied a passport as a penalty for using a bad bank.  That seems very weird.  I googled it and didn't get any hits on anything similar.  The US is extremely cautious about who they let into the country but relatively lax about who they let out. Most of the things I read said that you could be denied a passport if you owed back taxes or child support, were the subject of a current investigation or were a convicted drug trafficker.  The basic idea is not to let you out if they want something (jail time or money) from you. 

    This is what is weird about your case.  You didn't mention being charged with a crime for the bank thing or being sent a bill for back taxes.  It just doesn't seem like a bad check is enough to deny a passport.  Even if it was, it seems like the passport would be a side effect of a larger case and not the main form of government punishment.

    I'd definitely hire an attorney to look into it if I were you.

     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2010 - 1:08 PM ET #105

    AYT GUYS...

    Lets talk about Gambling here.....................

    the philosophy, the stories you read, from history and history...

    i think more of a histories of losing individual that is why even if there is a lot of comments here, it really didnt answer the question..

    No one has a story of a man who is not rich, and suddenly goes to vegas and beating the house, and now he owns a casino?

    dont if there is one... im just giving an example..

     

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    AYT GUYS...

    Lets talk about Gambling here.....................

    the philosophy, the stories you read, from history and history...

    i think more of a histories of losing individual that is why even if there is a lot of comments here, it really didnt answer the question..

    No one has a story of a man who is not rich, and suddenly goes to vegas and beating the house, and now he owns a casino?

    dont if there is one... im just giving an example..

     

     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2010 - 3:37 PM ET #106

    Im going home, though I may be late

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD61N3H8pBk

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    Im going home, though I may be late

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD61N3H8pBk

     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2010 - 3:45 PM ET #107

     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2010 - 4:16 PM ET #108

    Quote Originally Posted by fixedgame:

    I have never met a guy who got rich from gambling. I know a few who lost everything including their families because of gambling. I know a few rich guys who gamble for pleasure because they can afford to lose some money and not break a sweat. I am not rich but I keep my bets in check where losing and winning doesnt change my life style.

    This is true.

    The people that make REAL money year in and year out are professional poker players.  Many make at least $300,000 a year or MUCH more. Its applicable for infinity and the proof of that is Johnny Nguyen and some of those geezers in the game, invited, respected 20 some years later. You are a virtual cash earning machine, if you are really professional. Anyway, I earn dough and always start low and build up big. You have to be under a marathon mantality. otherwise if you just focus on "sprints" or getting a Fuck load of cash all at one time you are bound to make bad picks or overthink etc. Best of luck to everyone and sometimes its better wait for "That Feeling" if you are decent gambler then you what im talking about. Its the 1 where you are almost always right and you cant predict it - but you know it when you see the line. Wait for those instead of playing to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixedgame:

    I have never met a guy who got rich from gambling. I know a few who lost everything including their families because of gambling. I know a few rich guys who gamble for pleasure because they can afford to lose some money and not break a sweat. I am not rich but I keep my bets in check where losing and winning doesnt change my life style.

    This is true.

    The people that make REAL money year in and year out are professional poker players.  Many make at least $300,000 a year or MUCH more. Its applicable for infinity and the proof of that is Johnny Nguyen and some of those geezers in the game, invited, respected 20 some years later. You are a virtual cash earning machine, if you are really professional. Anyway, I earn dough and always start low and build up big. You have to be under a marathon mantality. otherwise if you just focus on "sprints" or getting a Fuck load of cash all at one time you are bound to make bad picks or overthink etc. Best of luck to everyone and sometimes its better wait for "That Feeling" if you are decent gambler then you what im talking about. Its the 1 where you are almost always right and you cant predict it - but you know it when you see the line. Wait for those instead of playing to play.

     
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2010 - 4:51 PM ET #109

    last football season I almost hit a 100,000 parlay card for college football...and this baseball season almost 10,000 but the dodgers lost on opening day to the pirates...so if I can get close to hitting a ridiculous parlays then I would say it is possible
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    last football season I almost hit a 100,000 parlay card for college football...and this baseball season almost 10,000 but the dodgers lost on opening day to the pirates...so if I can get close to hitting a ridiculous parlays then I would say it is possible
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