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#26
Im on the Lakers Buddy, so at least one of will win! BOL ! We have done our part! PG 
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Playoff Time (Finals version)
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#27
Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:
i see you are "new" around here... so you probably weren't aware that none of my opinions regarding sports ever come from ESPN or TNT or any other sports program...
These new guys, and he is SupoerCool! I hate we are on different sides Buddy, but if I listened to ESPN, to make my picks, I would have flamed out a long time ago! But I watch ESPN, and enjoy it, but TNT those guys with Barkley, turrible, just turrible! They dont know any more than we do, if that! Yes, they know the game, but I wish they would get off their TWITTER accounts and come pick and POST in this Forum! Later Kool! BOL in all your endeavors! PG i see you are "new" around here... so you probably weren't aware that none of my opinions regarding sports ever come from ESPN or TNT or any other sports program...
started to read your post but didn't go past that part... i assume you like the Lakers, though...
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#28
SuperCool made some good points and offered great counter analysis.
My question is: Should celtic backers be concerned that perkins could and probably will miss a game after being handed a technical?
Can anyone imagine a scenerio where celtics are winning game 1 handily, and doc tells him to get out there and get a technical to get it out of the way?
My question is: Should celtic backers be concerned that perkins could and probably will miss a game after being handed a technical?
Can anyone imagine a scenerio where celtics are winning game 1 handily, and doc tells him to get out there and get a technical to get it out of the way?
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#29
Ice brotha
I am starting to think Boston has a chance in this series
but they will have to win game 1 as Phil is undefeated
when he wins game 1.. so i look at it as a must win game 1
I think Boston is as good or if not better than they were when
they beat LA a few years back. Rondo is going to be a handful
Boston Defense is better this time around in my view.
Boston has so many people they can bring at you
it will be hard for LA to figure out how to guard them
If bynum were healthy it would really help LA
I bet Stern is very happy that he gets a Boston LA finals
If there is one team that has shown the balls to win on
the road in a critical game its Boston.
Game 1 I would buy a half and take Boston + 6 series will be tight tight tightid pass on the over, too much respect for boston D
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#30
Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:
i see you are "new" around here... so you probably weren't aware that none of my opinions regarding sports ever come from ESPN or TNT or any other sports program...
started to read your post but didn't go past that part... i assume you like the Lakers, though...
Unreal. For one I didn't say you based any of your analysis on ESPN or TNT. I'm just using it as a statement to the fact that Rondo has been so hyped up these playoffs that he is now overrated. He's great and will get better, but the praise and respect this guy is getting right now is completely unwarranted at this point.
Secondly I guess it's totally impossible that I couldn't have been reading this site since back in the day and finally decided to make an account and finally post my opinion on something I fell passionate about. You wonder why all the good cappers have been run off this site. The general douchbaggery in every thread is staggering and sad. I just have to be some troll trying to cause problems when I have simply provided my view on the game. It is obvious you are as one sided and locked into your view on the celtics as I am to the Lakers, but I guess because I dared to post my view on your thread I'm the dickhead, because you have a few thousand posts you are legit and regal and I must be some retarded troll trying to stir up shit. I could of sworn you asked for other's opinions. Way to stay objective and open minded. Obviously you have no ability to practice what you preach. Please feel free to flame me all you want.
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Quote Originally Posted by bob696969:
SuperCool made some good points and offered great counter analysis.
My question is: Should celtic backers be concerned that perkins could and probably will miss a game after being handed a technical?
Can anyone imagine a scenerio where celtics are winning game 1 handily, and doc tells him to get out there and get a technical to get it out of the way?
SuperCool made some good points and offered great counter analysis.
My question is: Should celtic backers be concerned that perkins could and probably will miss a game after being handed a technical?
Can anyone imagine a scenerio where celtics are winning game 1 handily, and doc tells him to get out there and get a technical to get it out of the way?
Thanks for actually reading my posts and the compliment and not just overreacting like a 5 yr old to one comment.
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Quote Originally Posted by bob696969:
Can anyone imagine a scenerio where celtics are winning game 1 handily, and doc tells him to get out there and get a technical to get it out of the way?
Can anyone imagine a scenerio where celtics are winning game 1 handily, and doc tells him to get out there and get a technical to get it out of the way?
good question... i can't really imagine that, but i think it could be a blessing in disguise if it happened...
i guess the only scenario where that would make any sense is if Boston were winning by 20+ in the 4th quarter... the other part of that scenario is that Doc would have to be buying into conspiracy... that if Boston wins a game in LA, the refs will try to screw them one game back in Boston to make sure this series makes it back to LA... and the easiest way for the NBA to do that, if Boston steals a game, is to give Perk that 7th tech in games 2, 3, or 4...
but outside of that unlikely scenario, it's hard to see an opportunity to do something like that...
i could swear that situation has happened one time since they implemented this rule... maybe not in the Finals, though...
sorry if i didn't get a chance to read all responses yet... been dealing with some shit...
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Quote Originally Posted by Gold_Rush:
Ice brotha
Ice brotha
I am starting to think Boston has a chance in this series
but they will have to win game 1 as Phil is undefeated
when he wins game 1.. so i look at it as a must win game 1
no disrespect, of course, but i don't agree with this statement... i do see where it seems that way, and even i am going to hate sweating out that stupid 40-0 stat if Boston loses game 1...
as long as Boston gets a split in LA, they are in great shape... and when i say great shape, i mean i will be spending my money by game 3...
IF Boston loses both games in LA, they can still very definitely go back to Boston and sweep that board... people who think they can't are sadly mistaken... and if Boston heads back to LA for game 6, up 3-2 (regardless of which 3 games they win), they are in good shape...
i would venture to guess that, out of those 40 series' in the NBA playoffs when Phil Jackson had a 1-0 lead to start the series... he had the better team in 40 of them...
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Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:
no disrespect, of course, but i don't agree with this statement... i do see where it seems that way, and even i am going to hate sweating out that stupid 40-0 stat if Boston loses game 1...
as long as Boston gets a split in LA, they are in great shape... and when i say great shape, i mean i will be spending my money by game 3...
IF Boston loses both games in LA, they can still very definitely go back to Boston and sweep that board... people who think they can't are sadly mistaken... and if Boston heads back to LA for game 6, up 3-2 (regardless of which 3 games they win), they are in good shape...
i would venture to guess that, out of those 40 series' in the NBA playoffs when Phil Jackson had a 1-0 lead to start the series... he had the better team in 40 of them...
EXACTLY !! The thing to remember about that 40-0 stat is, most all teams that win game 1 go on to win the series, it's something like 73%.
Most coaches who've tasted alot of success in the postseason have very good records after winning game1.
The 40-0 is based a bit on coinsidence. As with any stat there's always the 1 or 2 or 3 that get way overblown because of coinsidence.
When Phil lost a series he always lost game 1, that's just pure coinsidence on how it worked out.
The Celtics only need a split in LA to be in excellent condition, doesn't make any difference if it's game 1 or 2.
I rarely look at or consider stats such as this, mostly coinsidence, and understanding stats that have powerful cause and effect and stats that are more coinsidence based is the key to better capping.
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Quote Originally Posted by SuperCoolGuy:
insulting wasn't my intent, sorry if you saw it that way.
no problem... i did like your write-up, and always appreciate well thought out feedback, even if it disagrees with me...
most insults don't bother me... but since you said you've been checking out threads and posts for awhile, i would have hoped you recognize by now that i do not consider a single person who works for ESPN to be an expert on handicapping... not one!
i almost never watch ESPN OR TNT unless there is an actual sporting event on... all other ESPN shows are what you watch if you want to UNLEARN about sports...
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:
EXACTLY !! The thing to remember about that 40-0 stat is, most all teams that win game 1 go on to win the series, it's something like 73%.
Most coaches who've tasted alot of success in the postseason have very good records after winning game1.
() The 40-0 is based a bit on coincidence. As with any stat there's always the 1 or 2 or 3 that get way overblown because of coinsidence.
When Phil lost a series he always lost game 1, that's just pure coinsidence on how it worked out.
The Celtics only need a split in LA to be in excellent condition, doesn't make any difference if it's game 1 or 2.
I rarely look at or consider stats such as this, mostly coinsidence, and understanding stats that have powerful cause and effect and stats that are more coinsidence based is the key to better capping.
talking logic and statistics around these parts will usually get you crickets... but i like it!
sorry i corrected your spelling on coincidence, but you fucking NAILED the exact word that describes that trend and most trends like that...
if Phil is 40-0 winning series after winning game 1, and the average coach is 73% after winning game 1, the only thing that matters is the disparity between the norm and what Phil has done... and yes, it would constitute a statistical significance, in this case... but, as theClaw so eloquently put it... you have to look at how that coincides with such things as: 1) having the better team... 2) having guys named Jordan, Shaq and Kobe... 3) was game 1 home or away... and who knows what else?
not discounting the stat... just saying, even though 40 out of 40 equals 100%... that stat does NOT equal 100%...
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Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:
talking logic and statistics around these parts will usually get you crickets... but i like it!
sorry i corrected your spelling on coincidence, but you fucking NAILED the exact word that describes that trend and most trends like that...
if Phil is 40-0 winning series after winning game 1, and the average coach is 73% after winning game 1, the only thing that matters is the disparity between the norm and what Phil has done... and yes, it would constitute a statistical significance, in this case... but, as theClaw so eloquently put it... you have to look at how that coincides with such things as: 1) having the better team... 2) having guys named Jordan, Shaq and Kobe... 3) was game 1 home or away... and who knows what else?
not discounting the stat... just saying, even though 40 out of 40 equals 100%... that stat does NOT equal 100%...
It's not a trend ! It's a fact : with 20 years experience ,10 NBA titles as a coach and he earn his nick name as Zen Master !
If you think it a coincident &, or trend then YOU ARE in DENIAL !
You believed ( as your analogy ) in this thread :
1) BOS is better ( team ) then LAK
2) Having guy name: KG ,PP,R Allen & Rondo
Let's see if Doc Rivers can do a coincident ! assume they win game 1 ( even I don't think so at this point )
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#47
coincidence: a striking occurrence of two or more events at one time
what theclaw was getting at, is that most trends are the result of a confluence of events or circumstances, which cannot be evaluated in isolation, independent of one another...
hopefully that clarified my earlier point...
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Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:
no disrespect, of course, but i don't agree with this statement... i do see where it seems that way, and even i am going to hate sweating out that stupid 40-0 stat if Boston loses game 1...
as long as Boston gets a split in LA, they are in great shape... and when i say great shape, i mean i will be spending my money by game 3...
IF Boston loses both games in LA, they can still very definitely go back to Boston and sweep that board... people who think they can't are sadly mistaken... and if Boston heads back to LA for game 6, up 3-2 (regardless of which 3 games they win), they are in good shape...
i would venture to guess that, out of those 40 series' in the NBA playoffs when Phil Jackson had a 1-0 lead to start the series... he had the better team in 40 of them...
Ice I agree, if boston wins one of the 1st two games they will be in
excellent shape, then its back to boston for 3 straight!
Game 3 in Boston seems like a great place to take boston
but I am sure the lakers will win out of the 3 in boston
and for LA's sake I hope its game 5
I am a firm believer in the winner of game 5 wins the series.
That didnt work out for Orlando but they were in a deep deep hole at that point. down 3-1
Should be a great series to watch without wagering but who wants to watch the finals and not have some kind of bet? NOT ME
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